#Odysseus the man that you are
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Literally I will never be fucking normal about odysseus or his voice I am actually so down awful for him it’s really embarrassing
“The siren’s blasted song…”
HMGNMMHNGNGNHGNGNHNGNGNHNMGNMG SIR SIR PLEASE SIR PLEASE PLEASE SIR I AM BEGGING SIR PLEASE
#lord help me#why is his voice LIKE THAT#why would they do this to me in particular#I’m so insane about him I’ll never shut up about him#please I can’t be alone in this#odysseus the man that you are#hades 2#hades ii#odysseus hades
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I don’t think you guys understand, I’m addicted to Six Hundred Strike. It’s the only thing I can listen to. I want this song injected into my veins, burned behind my eyelids, imprinted onto my brain. I don’t want to hear anybody talking about anything except this song. I’m literally obsessed
#how will you sleep at night#next to my WIFE#Odysseus the man that you are#literally foaming at the mouth#epic the musical#epic the vengeance saga#jorge rivera herrans#odysseus
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Odysseus: Penelope I am not the same person you fell in love with, I have done terrible things to get home. I understand if you can’t accept the monstrous things I have done-
Penelope: cool, could you please move this wedding bed
Odysseus: what, no!
Penelope: that’s my husband
Odysseus: Penelope I have killed so many
Penelope: I don’t give a shit
Odysseus: I sacrificed my crew-
Penelope: And I would’ve done the same
Odysseus: I am covered in the blood of the suitors
Penelope: and you look fantastic
Odysseus: I TORTURED A GOD ON HIS OWN WEAPON
Penelope: and that was incredibly sexy of you
#epic the musical#Odysseus: I am not the man you fell in love with#Penelope: L + Ratio + Don’t tell me you’re not the same person + You're always my husband and I've been waiting
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The past Friend Reveal :
For @autisticgremllin
#Finally found the time to digitalize my sketch of this! :D#hope you like it#Rip telemachus#The lungs on Odysseus could kill a man#epic fanart#epic the musical#epic the musical fanart#fanart#my fanart#epic musical#epic odysseus#jorge rivera herrans#epic#epic the wisdom saga#epic the vengeance saga#epic telemachus#epic athena#odysseus fanart#odysseus epic#telemachus epic the musical#athena fanart#telemachus fanart#epic fan comic#epic fandom#Nyssa#Nyssa's art tag#odysseus and telemachus#odysseus and athena#athena and telemachus#athena and odysseus
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so how about that theory that Odysseus' red eyes in Six Hundred Strike mean Ares is helping him out on behalf of Athena, huh?
#epic the musical#epic the vengeance saga#epic ares#epic odysseus#idk man this popped into my head like a quick thought#and a vision#ares went to athena and said “sorry dad beat you up do you want me to help your guy out?”
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Bringing this back because the man that Odysseus is ✨️
Can you imagine having a dad who sacrificed his crew of 600 men, broke a goddesses heart and massacred a different god to bully said god to help him get home, just so he could get back to you and your mom?
Odysseus is literally the opposite of the dad who went out to get milk
#odysseus is superdad#maybe not in attendence record#but in determination for sure#<- past me is so right#Odysseus the man that you are#epic the musical#the ithaca#Odysseus#epic Odysseus
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after six hundred strike
*odysseus and poseidon are both still on the rocks in the middle of the sea*
odysseus: ok, let's just agree to both say we're sorry
odysseus: on the count of three
odysseus: one..two..three
poseidon:
odysseus:
odysseus: see, now i'm just disappointed in the both of us
#odysseus: listen man... i just need a way to cross the rest of the water#odysseus: then we never have to interact again#poseidon: *still full of holes and bleeding* do i look like a joke to you?#listen ody's raft was destroyed by poseidon/the storm#the storm may be gone#but he still needs to cross the rest of the waters to ithaca#so what better way than the god of the seas?#even if you did just stab him repeatedly with his own trident#poseidon epic#poseidon#odysseus epic#odysseus#epic the musical#epic the vengeance saga#epic: the musical#six hundred strike
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Zeus all arrogant: My oh my brother, all that work to get revenge on the mortal, and he beats you?You must feel so ashamed…
Poseidon, still bleeding profusely and literally vibrating from horniness: Do you think if I kill his son he’ll do it again?
#There’s something so homperotic about getting stabbed by the man youve obsessed on for years with your own weapon as you beg him to stop#You know what they say#Gay people can never have a normal divorce#anyways masochist Poseidon ftw!!!#epic the musical#the vengeance saga#epic the vengeance saga#epic odysseus#odysseus of ithaca#Poseidon#epic poseidon#Zeus#Epic Zeus#tagamemnon#Odyseidon#Manwhore au#not like technically but I’m tagging it so people who don’t wanna see this shit can filter it out lol
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hrmmm
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Perhaps… the gang? (Ody Poli and eury)
The whole crew is here btw one of them dared
( @nimbusthewinion not what you want but get this instead of smut 🤭)
#idk maybe elpenor#leave my bbg alone he's just a man#you will have to fight me before i actually deliver smut#odysseus fanart#odysseus#epic fanart#epic the musical fanart#epic the musical#epic#epic odysseus#epic odypen#odypen#odysseus epic#epic polites#epic eurylochus#eurylochus#polites#600 men#funny
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okay so I was doing a Research™️ about ancient Greek etymology as one does and I found some Things that made me want to Violently Claw My Arms Off please allow me to force feed you my discoveries
So there are 2 words for "not" in ancient Greek, depending on the context: ou and mē. Having introduced himself in the Cyclops episode as " ou tis", or No-man, he then stabs Polyphemus in the eye. When Polyphemus' brothers come to check on him, they say this:
"... surely no man [mē tis] is carrying off your sheep? Surely no man [mē tis] is trying to kill you either by fraud or by force?"
Right after this, after the other cyclopes ditch Polyphemus, Odysseus's inner monologue goes something like this:
"Then they went away, and I laughed inwardly at the success of my clever strategem [metis]." (pronounced mEH-Tis)
Now, there's a difference between mē tis and metis. [mē tis] (pronounced mEH-Tis with a space between the syllables) is the literal translation for "no man". Metis is a word for extreme intelligence/cunning, which is something Odysseus is famous for.
Now, there are several examples of abuse of metis/intelligence in the Odyssey, but I think the juxtaposition between [mē tis], or the concept of anonymity, and metis, or extreme intelligence, is REALLY interesting. Odysseus's adoption of the title "No-man" was characteristic of metis--it was a really smart move that simultaneously hid him from the cyclops and avoided any future consequences. It was a highly effective strategy all wrapped up in a nest little package with a bow on it.
But when he revealed himself as Odysseus of Ithaca, effectively throwing off No-man (anonymity and [mē tis]), that was characterized as idiocy--he's essentially doxxed himself, and now he's doing to (spoiler alert) get tossed around the Mediterranean by Poseidon for the next 10 years.
This is really interesting because it lets you see the parallels/codependency between metis(intelligence) and humility. When Odysseus refused to allow himself to go unnoticed (hubris) he suffered for it. BUT when he declined instant glory/satisfaction (kleos) in order to achieve the long term goal of survival, he was rewarded with Athena's favor (pay attention. This part is important).
And this situation repeats itself MULTIPLE TIMES in the Odyssey--the EXACT SAME THING happens near the end of the book, with the suitors. When. Odysseus is dressed as a beggar and the suitors/Antinious are abusing him, he ACTIVELY CHOOSES not to react--he doesn't stand up and rip off his disguise and start hollering "TIS I, ODYSSEUS OF ITHACA! FEAR MY WRATH"
No. He sits there patiently and waits. He plans and schemes and quietly orchestrates their downfall without alerting them of it. Why? Because he learned his lesson the first time this happened. He buried his rage and adopted what was, according to Grace LA Franz, a more feminine form of metis, weaving a web of destruction for his enemies that ultimately resulted in their total annihilation (see Weaving a Way to Nostos: Odysseus and Feminine Metis in the Odyssey by Grace LaFranz). His patience allowed him to win the whole prize--no questions asked, no 10-year-long-business-trip strings attached--just the sweetness of a full victory. And he is, once again, rewarded with Athena's favor--both in the battle with the suitors and in the aftermath (cleanup/reuniting with Penelope).
This really reinforces the idea in the Odyssey that Odysseus's defining characteristic is not just his intelligence--it's his ability to learn from his mistakes. He used what he learned at the Lotus Eaters Island against Polyphemus--the Lotus Eaters drugged his men, so he drugged Polyphemus. He used what he learned from Circe and Polyphemus against the suitors--Circe used false sweetness and honeyed words to lure his men into a trap, so that's exactly what he did to the suitors. His hubris on Polyphemus' island cost his whole crew their lives, so he intentionally left well enough alone until the right time. He didn't just learn from his failures--he turned them into BATTLE STRATEGY.
i don't care what anyone says that is completely totally and objectively awesome
#Odysseus is a certified baddie 112% of the time#he's literally the coolest you can't convince me otherwise#there's a reason that literally everyone has a crush on him#even the lesbians#its the wordplay. his words#read me a poem in iambic pentameter you bloody stinky man#literally everyone: his sad wet vibes and dark undereye circles have captivated me entirely#odysseus#the odyssey#tagamemnon#odysseus x penelope#telemachus#epic the musical#the cyclops saga#odysseus of ithaca#poseidon#etymology#ancient greece#ancient history
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congratulations old man
#he saw the land he saw the sea and now he saw the sky. truly a man.#you're not going home anytime soon are you 😔#odysseus
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The Odyssey would have been a lot shorter if Odysseus gave the Cyclops weed instead of wine.
#the odyssey#odysseus#non mdzs#Worse part of this is that this isn't even the first time he's seen this movie.#I don't think I captured the sheer genuine confusion and distress when the Nobody gambit came up.#Mans had his world upheaved for a moment. Know the risks when you blaze it I suppose.#My dad has great taste in films and I can always count on him recommending something really unique.#We've been going through various Odyssey adaptations and I must say; Odyssey (1997) is a good one.#Telemachus is appropriately a moody and emotional (crybaby) teen boy.#Hermes is the twinkiest little fruit I have every seen. No exaggeration. It is truly a sight to bear witness to.#Athena is sadly a weak point. And while the olive tree is constantly drawn attention to...there's no wedding bed gambit.#Penelope fans will really enjoy how she has lots of good scenes. Her plight runs parallel through the whole movie!#The scene with Anticlea on the beach particularly stands out. 'You'are my mother! You're my father! You are my strength!'#She's losing everything and everyone important to her. She has no control in her life or her home.#All she can do is wait and keep her head high despite the rising waters. God I love her.#All in all; I highly recommend this one as another good adaptation. It rearranges and cuts out some scenes but hits the mark overall.
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“Though I never thought that it would come to this…”
#tagamemnon#epic the musical#the odyssey#greek mythology#epic the musical fanart#penelope of ithaca#penelope#odypen#a huge thanks to everyone who helped me decide on her ear type on my poll#i honestly wasn’t sure how webbed ears would turn out#but I’m happy with the result#and i hope y’all like it too#PENELOPE IS WAITING ODYSSEUS#SOMEONE GET THE MAN HOME#also do you guys think i should change her jewelry from gold to silver?? but i didn’t want her to seem too similar in color scheme to athena#i dunno
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Tiresias: I see a man who gets to make it home alive but it’s no longer you… I see your wife standing with a man hunting
Odysseus: what if i became the monster.
#epic the musical#epic the underworld saga#jay rivera herrans#no longer you slaps#not to be hubristic but that man was definitely blessed by Apollo#mason oshlavskys amazing#homer#the odyssey#Odysseus#meme#Greek mythology
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I found out that they found an ancient roman coin depicting odysseus taking argos for a walk and I’m going to start sobbing uncontrollably
#thank you jeopardy for bestowing me with this information#they invented man’s best friend btw#odysseus#argos#tagamemnon
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