#notp: you and me is not gonna happen

[piperslovebot]

Scene edit because I wanna be petty.

Caroline (after treating him like shit for grieving his brother, bashing him for not having feelings for her, implying that if he had feelings for her that she would’ve not shut it off, threatened to kill his niece if he didn’t shut it off (mind you, she knows his past as a ripper)): Do you hate me?

Stefan: Yes I do. How can you even ask me that? You put me through hell all because I didn’t do what you wanted. Elena may make things about herself, but you’re no better.

[zenkindoflove]

Fandom Shipping Terminology 101: ACOTAR edition

Hi! So I decided to put a little resource together for the ACOTAR fandom. Since many people join the SJM/ACOTAR fandom and have never been in fandom before, they encounter a lot of fandom terminology that they are not quite sure what it means or have seen others use it incorrectly so they get a false impression of the meaning of the word. So I put this together, including examples from the fandom, so that people can use it as a reference to learn more about what these terms mean and when they're appropriate to use. This list is focused on words related to shipping.

Tldr definitions (note: these are definitions that I wrote based on my own experiences/research on fanlore. These are always up for interpretation and meaning and nuance change over time and depend on fandom context)

Canon ship - a relationship where the characters have romantic interactions in canon

Fanon ship - a relationship where in canon the characters are platonic but the fandom has accepted as a ship with romantic undertones, canonical potential, or has become so popular within a fandom it's has surpassed the need/desire for canon

Crackship - a pairing of two characters where the idea of them together is strange or funny depending on the circumstances. Often in these ships, the characters have little or even no interactions in canon

Rare pair - agnostic to fanon or canon status. A rare pair simply means the fandom does not make a lot of fan content for it.

End-game - This is a canon ship that is together by the end of a series.

Slash ship - Fanon ships that feature queer relationships. M/M usually takes on the term slash and F/F has the term femslash.

OTP - Stands for One True Pair. This is a ship that a shipper considers to be the most important one that they love in a fandom.

NOTP - anti-OTP, or a ship that a shipper detests/is squicked out by

Multishipping - the act of shipping a character with multiple other characters.

For more context and thorough examples read more under the cut 

First, what the heck is a ship?

The origins of shipping and becoming obsessed with fictional relationships predate our modern understanding of fandom. Modern fandom roots can be traced as early as Star Trek: The Original Series. But the terminology of calling a couple you like a ship or the act of obsessing over fictional (and sometimes non fictional) couples "shipping" has its origins in the X-Files fandom. While ACOTAR is a romance, many fandoms do not have romance as a central element of its plot, and yet, shippers find a way. That's exactly what happened for the fans of Mulder/Scully. Those who wanted them to be in a romantic relationship were called "relationshippers" which then got shortened to "shippers". The verb "to ship" would appear later from this origin.

The way to think about "what is a ship" though is really based on do people think up romantic scenarios with these two characters? If yes, then you have a ship. And in ACOTAR, oh baby, are there MANY, MANY SHIPS.

Canon vs. Fanon ships

Where does a canon ship end and a fanon one begin? Now that, my friends, is not as clear cut as you might think.

I think this discussion is very important for the ACOTAR fandom because of the state of the ship war currently. Often, there is back and forth about which ship is canon or fanon (and *eye twitch* people throwing around crackship as a derogatory term to de-legitimize a ship which makes me wanna punch shit).

I'm gonna burst everyone's bubbles and say, I personally think Elriel, Elucien, and Gwynriel are all CANON ships.

Why? Well, that's the part that is up for interpretations my friends. What is deemed canonical romantic interactions? That is where a lot of lines can become blurry and if you have ever shipped a fanon ship before - you KNOW what I mean by that. Is it a charged glance? A caress of a hand that lingered too long? Is it a shared kiss? Or do the characters have to explicitly declare "I'm yours and you're mine"?

I've shipped a lot of kinds of ships. Canon. Fanon. Canon that had its end-game blown up. You name it, I've shipped it. And to me, a canon ship is anytime the writer of the canon is putting characters in a romantic situation, regardless if they end up together or not by the end of the series. If they wanted you to feel butterflies and think "could they?", and you felt butterflies, well my friends, you're responding to canon romance. And we've seen evidence of all three ships having those moments.

But, what does that mean for fanon ships? I have shipped a fanon couple where I got butterflies from their canonical scenes together. I've read into their moments and thought "wow, that was romantically charged". I think this is where the lines of canon and fanon are blurred. Because what this comes down to is, did the author intend this? Or am I seeing more into an interaction because I like it? Most fanon ships do hinge a lot of their interest in said ship because of what happens in canon. But, often times, the authors of said content are not necessarily wanting you to take away from their writing that these two characters are interested in each other romantically. You just can't help it. You see it. You see the potential, and you want it to go there so you see more of it the more you look.

Sometimes fanon ships are very clear that the canon is not even hinting at these two characters together romantically. And that is perfectly fine. To me, a fanon ship is a ship that has become so ingrained in the fandom community that the fandom thinks of these two together romantically. That it doesn't really matter anymore what the canon says or doesn't. The fandom has created this relationship and it lives and breathes within what the fandom builds for it. Azris is a perfect example of a fanon ship in ACOTAR. The canon interactions between Azriel and Eris are sparse and platonic in nature, yet the fandom itself has created a whole fanon around them with a large enough community that as soon as you enter the ACOTAR fandom, you immediately know this ship exists.

Rare pairs and Crackships

These two terms are often used interchangeably as if they are synonyms. Now, a rare pair can be a crackship but not all rare ships are crackships and vice versa.

Generally, a rare pair is devoid of canon or fanon connotations. A rare pair is a ship that receives little attention from fans and has few associated fanworks. So, a rare pair could be a fanon couple that few people think about romantically. For example, Emerie and Gwyn have a lot of interactions in canon. I would not think shipping them together to be a crackship because I mean, they're friends, they like each other, they read smut together. There are a lot of scenarios one could imagine them falling in love. But they have a whopping 12 fanfics under their tag in AO3. Therefore, they are a rare pair but not necessarily a crackship.

A rare pair can also be a canon ship. For example, Thesan and his unnamed lover are canon. However, when you look up their relationship tag on AO3, there are 23 works and most do not appear to be focused on them.

I also have seen people use rare pair for very popular ships (like Azris) when they mean fanon. Again, rare pair is really an indication of "how much fan content can you find for this" not necessarily are they canon.

Crackships really were birthed from the intention of putting two characters together "4 da lulz" to bring back early 2000s internet lingo. Crack shipping is usually a pairing that the idea of them together is a little absurd but also fun. Beron/Tamlin is a quintessential crackship example, especially why it came to be (but we will avoid getting into all the origins of that). There is no real reason to think Beron or Tamlin would ever have a romantic interaction and thinking about it makes you laugh. Crackships can sometimes turn into fanon ships. This is another example where the lines do get blurry. But really, crackshipping is about intention and the use of absurdism within fan creation.

I also want to say, often what I see in the Elucien v. Elriel and Elriel v. Gwynriel ships wars is the use of crackship in a derogatory way, and thinking that if one of these ships does not become end-game, therefore, it proves the other was a crackship. Simply put - no. That's not how it works.

End-game

Related to the above point, I think often where the ACOTAR ship wars really derail themselves, is conflating fanon/canon/endgame with each other. I don't see people often using the term end-game, when really, it would help so much with the judgmental and strange ship policing that this fandom loves to do. Specifically, this fandom has a hard time talking about the value within shipping fanon, or shipping the blurriness between fanon and canon for any characters that do not have end-game potential. ACOTAR is not a complete series. Therefore, in a strict definition, no couples are end-game. However, given the genre, there are several couples who are clearly going to be end-game. And really, what I think the ship war community needs in their discourse, is to start using the term end-game when they want to discuss the outcome of Elucien, Elriel, or Gwynriel having a canonical Happily Ever After. The reason being is that you can use end-game, and not insult another ship. End-game is simply a fact. There is no hierarchy involved in what ship is best or not. Because ships can be beloved whether they're canon or fanon or canon who did not end up together. And they all can have very valid reasons why people ship them despite not achieving end-game.

I also urge the ACOTAR fandom to realize that end-game is not the end of YOUR experience of your ship. Your ship lives on despite what the canon may or may not give you. Even if you ship a canon ship that does not achieve end-game, you can create those fanon end-games for yourself. Many popular ships end up being popular because of the effect of that ship not achieving end-game. And while I am using the prime-ship war as examples within this post, I've seen other microshipwars popping up within the fandom as well. So, I'm not trying to pick on this specific set of conflicts, it's just the one I see most prominently.

OTP vs NOTP

I think the ACOTAR fandom could also really benefit from adopting this terminology.

The point of declaring OTPs and NOTPs is a way for you to signal to others in your fandom, "This is how much I care about this ship. Whether I love it it or hate it. Tread carefully". These terms are not meant to say one ship is better than the other from a moral standpoint. Instead, it's to indicate to others that you have a strong preference. You're going to love your OTPs regardless of what arguments others throw at you to convince you to not love them. You will probably be very annoyed by your NOTPs regardless of what others try to do to convince you that they're actually cute/sexy/hot/perfect for each other. And what the ACOTAR fandom could benefit from, from readopting OTP/NOTP language, is having a common understanding where different shipping communities boundaries are and how they can better utilize those boundaries to prevent constant fighting. Now, ship wars are inevitable because of how people see their OTPs and NOTPs, but general rule of thumb is - don't engage with your NOTP's content for your own mental sanity.

Multishipping

Multishipping can be used in many ways. Some people use it to say, hey I'm in this fandom, and I ship a lot of couples. But the origins of multishipping as a term, comes from ship war discourse in other fandoms. Multishippers generally are people who ship one character with multiple other characters. For example, if you ship Elain/Lucien, Elain/Azriel, Elain/Gwyn, Elain/Tamlin, etc etc etc, you are a multishipper. I generally would not consider someone a multishipper if all of their ships do not cross streams. It just sort of means that you ship a lot of couples. Which tends to be normal for romance series with a lot of couples. Maybe not a single of those couples is your true OTP, and that's what you mean by saying you're a multishipper. And that's okay. I think though that multishipping generally in other fan spaces is a marker of you telling others that you don't draw harsh lines with who you see characters with. I often see multishippers not declaring NOTPs. It's kind of a state of how you go about shipping often. I, for one, identify as an OTP shipper. I've never really multishipped. But I also have a very strict standard of what I call my "ships". Anyways, this is to say, this term has a lot of uses. And sometimes it can be confusing which of these uses a person means when they say it.

Slash shipping 

I've seen over the years that slash as a terminology has fallen out of favor. In the past, slash shipping was the pinnacle of shipping in fandoms. The term slash comes from the first modern fanon ship, Kirk/Spock, where the / between their names, which we now all know and use to indicate a romantic pairing (note: & is used to indicate a platonic interaction between characters), exists because the Kirk/Spock shipping community really were the originators of shipping communities creating fan content and sharing it in with each other in a massive way. In general slash (and femslash) is an important modifier of shipping because it explicitly tells you that this is a queer ship which often were not mainstream and considered canon until more recently. With the rise of canonical queer ships, I think the subversiveness of shipping queer couples has lost it's edge, therefore slash is not needed as much anymore to directly state the nature of your ship.

I wanted to keep this in the post though, because I think it's incredibly important history for ALL ACOTAR fans to understand. Shipping queer couples, and especially shipping FANON queer couples, has always been the backbone of fandom. Kirk/Spock walked so Destiel could fly. These are all queer ships that have strong fanon roots (and that fanon has had impacts on their canon) and have shaped fandom and your concept of shipping and romance tropes in inextricable ways. You don't have / without Kirk/Spock. You don't have Omegaverse, without gay shipping within the Supernatural fandom. And I wanted to make this point because this fandom has a strong het (heterosexual) ship bias. Which is okay. It's a romance series with a lot of heterosexual canon couples. But, I think because of that, many people are not entering this fandom with an understanding that people shipping queer fanon couples have been the ones who were the originators of many fandom terms that we have come to know and use today.

Conclusion:

I hope you all found this informative and that you can take away something from this post that can help you have better interactions and ability to communicate with others in this fandom. Again, I want to stress, that this is heavily influenced by my own 25 years of experience being in fandoms. And I haven't seen it all. Others will have different interpretations of these terms and experiences using these terms. So, feel free to add on anything that you think would be helpful to those in the ACOTAR community to better understand how to "ship and let ship". I do think that ship war are inevitable and not necessarily a bad thing. But using the right terms can help you engage in a more respectful way within ship war discourse.

[elsa-fogen]

alright. the time has come.

I'm disabling anon asks

i've been getting too much weird stuff lately. Which shows that i'm, apparently, popular enough?! My dream is coming true, and i can't be upset! But still, haha, i'll do it before it's too late.

For those who are too shy to ask, but want to ask something about my AUs, or just make a compliment, don't worry! I'm not gonna judge you for anything! If you don't want your name to be seen in my blog, then just tell me in the ask that you would like to stay anon, i'll screenshot your question and answer it without your name!

ALSO! Some weirdly specific rules for interacting with my asks

DO NOT MENTION MY NOTP! (r//pple) or if you HAD TO please censor it like that (but please don't, if it isn't some real emergency)

Don't send me images that isn't related to my blog. Like, i've recieved few of those, they bring nothing but annoyance and disappointment, because it could've been a normal ask, but it's just... this.

You're allowed to scream, write the whole thing in capslok, keysmash and so on as long as it's not hate. Show me all your feelings, go nuts! Your hate, please, keep to yourself.

No NSFW! Just in case. For this i'll block you instantly.

You caaaan ask me to draw something, but I probably won't, sorry, my inspiration works in mysterious ways and i can't force myself to draw something (this is why i don't do comissions)

You're absolutely allowed to send me your art for me!! But if you wanna send me a facfiction, comsider that it's difficult for me to access AO3 or fanfiction.net (but i can access fic.fan (it's not a paid add lmao))

So, anything that isn't mention here is allowed, i guess

Well, i think, in case something happen, i'll change this list, and actually, i need to make a post about myself in general... later i'm too lazy rn

[nekrosmos]

Ooo for the character thing, Gaz. I feel like people don't talk about him enough and I'm curious what you think of him :O

Oh thank you so much for the ask !! Hard agree, I love Gaz and I'm so glad you suggested him <3

Favorite thing about them

I love how he seems to be everyone's favorite child, if that makes sense ?? Like Price, Laswell, Nik, they absolutely adore him in their own way because he's fun to talk to, he has some great banters, and I think he brings a different vibe to the 141 that I really enjoy <3

Least favorite thing about them

Nothing really, I guess maybe I wish we had more outside of work scenes with him ?? (Like how Price gets the scene with Laswell at the end of MW, that kind of thing)

Favorite line

Well okay that's gonna go well with my answer for Nik's ask but "I'm not dead, Nik. I'm hanging from a bloody rope!" . This scene is just *chef kiss*

brOTP

Soap / Gaz DEFINITELY

OTP

I haven't found an OTP for Gaz YET, but I do enjoy the thought of Alex x Farah x Gaz after seeing some fanarts of them. Idk, I love OT3 and I think it would be cute :3c

nOTP

Again, don't have any strong opinions on other ships ,,,

Random headcanon

This man is a city boy to me, born and raised. The city noise is comforting to him and he struggles to fall asleep when it's too quiet outside

Unpopular opinion

I don't know if it's unpopular but I actually love the protégé relationship Price and Gaz have <3

Song I associate with them

Okay I'm not gonna lie, I have no ideas for this one. I'm not good at associating songs with characters IVJSIVJSVP

Favorite picture of them

The way I spammed the F12 key when this scene happened. HIS EEEEEEEEEEYES

[captwaddledoo]

ok so. a little while ago i made a comic ("compic" wtf hands???) about my experience in the octopath fandom, but i deleted it because i got paranoid someone might see it and say okay that isn't my experience and get offended. but things have happened since then that makes me feel compelled to speak about my experience so. i'm sorry if this doesn't reflect what you've been through, i don't want to diminish it, but. here goes

my time here has not been easy. i have a shit brain that tortures me with stupid nonsense and a notp that is impossible to avoid. combine that with my shit brain and you get hell, absolute hell. it's given me intense anxiety about whether there's space for me in this fandom and whether i'm wasting my time making the content i do.

but i'm gonna tell you something.

earlier this year when my brain was just horrific, a follower dmed me to help me, and even apologized for what was happening even though she absolutely didn't need to. she wasn't offended by what i was going through, understood and accepted my preferences, didn't give me shit for it. i've had other people reach out to me who are in similar positions but are absolutely kind and patient with me and even downright helpful when i've been feeling down. i've made great friends with people who do like what i like, who are incredibly supportive and inspiring and great to bounce ideas off of.

basically what i'm getting at is despite my brain and despite my anxiety, all i have actually been met with here is support, kindness, and patience. and as someone who has struggled greatly with my brain and social situations over the years, i deeply, deeply appreciate it. this is probably the smallest fandom i've ever been in and i've just been met with nothing but incredibly kind people. after being in hellish, large fandoms, after seeing fandoms tear each other apart, it's been. really refreshing and honestly very healing being here.

so i just wanna say... you're alright, octopath fandom. thank you for being you 💚

[mystiquedrops]

whit for the ask game mayhaps?👀

You shouldn't have asked that. /lh /hj

Now I can get out the box fully somewhat.

IT'S WHIT TIME !!

Favorite thing about him: His heart pupils that will break at some point/hj (MY FRIEND SUGGESTED ME TO SAY THAT, IDK 😭💀)

Hmm.. well, I don't know myself- 😭✋ I guess his mysterious aura? The way despite being a comic relief of some sort, he still happens to be intriguing. Like, you can tell there's something VERY wrong with this man, but.. What is it? How curious.

SPOILERS FOR CH2 EP16 OF DT FOR THE NEXT ONE !! And I'm crashing out too, soo-

Least favorite thing about him: His overly happy and avoidant attitude. Ik I'm contradicting the earlier statement probably, but listen. 3-4 people died? That's just not his problem (I mean, he wasn't really close to any of them so.. makes sense?). Someone just gets executed infront of him? Not his problem! BUT WHEN THE ELEVATOR IS CLOSED, HE PULLS UP A NEW SPRITE?? EXCUSE ME- What's his damage honestly- 😶 You terrified me before without even doing anything, and now I have every reason to be afraid of you (P.S: WHY IS HIS HAND BEHIND HIS BACK- WHAT THE FU-)

Favorite line: I actually have 2 but.. I'll try to be lighthearted here. "Haha, yeah, don't beat yourself up, since you already beat up Ace."

My honest reaction:

brOTP: Let's see... What do I got.. hmm.. TeruWhit or Whitrei. Yeah sure, one of these will do-

OTP: Charwhit very basic but yeah.

nOTP: Don't have one atm. 😔

Random headcanon: (I am allergic to being lighthearted to him for more than a milisecond.. so.. you're gonna face ANGST.. I'm not easy on him like I was with Eden. ) Whit doesn't make "your mom" jokes. And if you make one infront of him, he'll just stare you dead in the eye, not laughing. Idk- 😭✋

Unpopular opinion: Not sure if I have one.. but, I guess I'll say one SPECIFICALLY for crossover AUs. I genuinely don't see Whit as Madoka in any way, and don't really like the role. (big understatement) (Also, don't waste your time writing an essay on WHY it's fitting. I just don't see it or like it. If you like it or see it, good for you- but don't try to "change my mind" or whatever..)

(Nope I lied, I do have another unpopular opinion on Whit.. but that unpopular opinion is a secret, and can potentially get me cut by the fandom- that's why I chose to say an opinion that I believed NOBODY will give that much of a fuck about-)

Favorite picture of him: .. Take a WILD guess-

Song I associate with him: "Nonsense Speaker" (the Japanese lyrics. Not the English cover.) or "Mesmerizer" (the whole song in general tbh, he doesn't have to be associated with anyone-) Kyuukurarin-

Thanks for asking ! (Sorry if my answers are incoherent btw- I'm awkward with answering, and putting my thoughts in proper words in general- I really appreciate it though!)

[s-ephiroth]

not to start anything mean intended because i'm not that kind of person, but

i can't for the life of me understand people who claim to be sephiroth fans/have sephiroth based ships and go on and slap a capitalized "proship dni" somewhere in their bios/profiles

never understood this and never will, (for reasons i shall elaborate below) though i may get the potential reasons for it and just... it absolutely baffles me how misused the term proship is

that word literally means "in favor of shipping", that's what the "pro" part of the word is for. it doesn't mean you have to necessarily ship every ship that exists ever (that would be 1. insane and 2. not very feasible), just that you understand people will have different ships, you respect that others' preferences exist and mind your lane

it is basic fandom etiquette, it's literally old school "your kink is not my kink and that's ok". it's blocking folks with ships you dislike (notp) instead of trying to regulate what people do with narrative tools (characters) in a fictional space

sometimes other people are eating shrimp and you're allergic to shrimp. it doesn't mean the other people are immoral for eating shrimp

some people use proship to mean "problematic ship" (aka ships with dark thematics that wouldn't be ok irl) when 1. it doesn't mean that, and 2. you can dislike a thing without misusing a word

no, someone who's proshipper won't force you to ship their ship you may dislike, if you're wondering. that's not what the word implies at all

enter sephiroth

oh, you know him. sephiroth who took part in a genocide when young. sephiroth who took part in a war and very likely killed people. sephiroth who got betrayed by humanity so much that he chooses to torch down a small village and choose to become cosmic horror instead and haunt a twink

this is not a wholesome character!

like, i do believe that sephiroth has the potential to be cute/do good/work well as a slice of life protagonist if you frame him just right, but by canon definition, where he goes, someone dies

he's not fully good and not fully evil, he's a morally grey character reacting to the only life he knows and having multiple instances of terrible decisions. he's a victim as much as he's propagating evil

he's a very complex character and loving his character is understanding that not all that does or that happens to him is ideal. and that's ok, his very birth/conception alone is full of dark/taboo themes

and see, here's what i don't get: people who use "proship dni" in their bios, aside from the obvious performative flavor to that, (it's the internet! a sign won't stop people who are particularly mean!!) presumably don't want to interact with one or more of the following:

- people who ship anything in general (if going by the literal definition of the word)

- people who ship anything with dark/"problematic" thematics (by going by the misconception of the word meaning "problematic ship")

- people with a different ship that would be a notp or people who aren't into yumeshipping (oc/self insert x canon) (i'm not gonna get into my horror stories from twitter about this one but it exists, i was attacked once for trying to run a sc event)

if it's for the first reason, fair, but why only list one side of the discourse instead of just putting you're not into shipping? it feels like trying to bait people into a fight

the second is the one that baffles me the most. any ship you put sephiroth in has potential to have dark thematics, because sephiroth, as a shipping component, brings all these dark themes into it. unless you're redoing his whole life from scratch, he'll still have the history of having killed people, having fought a war, having been experimented on from pre-birth, etc. and if you have to redo this character's whole life to avoid dealing with his thematics entirely... do you even like him at all? are people who enjoy dark thematics forbidden from engaging with potentially wholesome thematics as well?

and the third is just hypocritical pettiness, really. you're not morally superior for shipping sephiroth with yourself or your oc or a different character that you prefer over some other character. sephiroth is still sephiroth, regardless of who he's with. he'll still do sephiroth things, whether positive or negative. you can dislike other ships without being morally performative about things. you can have notps!! you can dislike a ship for hitting you with the wrong vibes or because you like that other ship better

but in the end it all just boils down to it having the same vibes as antis using ao3: you're making use of the most proship thing out there is and saying proshippers shouldn't interact with you

i don't get it

[atopvisenyashill]

fandom ask game: house martell!

Personal involvement with this fandom: I would say i’m semi active, i’ve made a bunch of graphics of dornish characters & written about them a bit.

Sum your feelings for the franchise up in one sentence: Deserves better but what’s there is much more rich than people give credit for.

Favorite plotline: Arianne’s queenmaker plot line. unless i can count twoiaf bc then it’s the Martell-Targaryen marriages, i think maron handles the whole thing SO smartly

Least favorite plotline: Whatever the Sand Snakes are planning for the capital because i KNOW they’re gonna fuck it up BADLY bc they refuse to touch base with doran about anything (tbf he also refuses to tell them anything).

Favorite character: fuck. um. Doran?

Least favorite character: Areo Hotah. wait do i have to choose a martell. Tyene is just like heterosexual Lady Nym to me, I think Tyene should have been a little different.

brOTP: Arianne/Her Crew of Exes. rip arianne you would have loved challengers.

OTP: Oberyn/Ellaria

NOTP: Elia/Lyanna.

If I could change one thing about canon: We should have gotten a dornish pov before affc. it could be ellaria in king’s landing, moving the plot around a lil bit so arianne’s queenmaker plot happens in asos, like literally anything so that we get a dornish pov by asos.

[achaotichuman]

Hello, I'm curious so here you go <3

What OTPs in your fandom(s) do you just not get?*

Are there any popular fandom OTPs you only BroTP?*

Have you ever unfollowed someone over a fandom opinion?

Do you have a NoTP in your fandom? Are they a popular OTP?*

Has fandom ever ruined a pairing for you?*

Has fandom ever made you enjoy a pairing you previously hated?*

Is there anything you used to like but can’t stand now?*

Have you received anon hate? What about?*

Most disliked character(s)? Why?

Most disliked arc? Why?

Is there an unpopular character you like that the fandom doesn’t? Why?

Is there an unpopular arc that you like that the fandom doesn’t? Why?

Salty Ask Game

HIHIHIHIHI

Ooooh these are very fun ones, LETS GET INTO IT

I am being completely brutally honest here, so if anyone disagrees, shut your mouth.

Or don't, who am I do deny you the pleasure showing off your big red clown nose and your squeaky shoes.

What OTPs in your fandom(s) do you just not get?*

Honestly, I don't think there are any pairings 'I don't get' I can usually understand the reason someone will ship a couple (or more) That being said, I would rather an Elriel book over a Gwynriel book. Not because I like Elriel, but I hate it less than Gwynriel.

#FreeGwynfromtheclutchesofthatpervertedman

Are there any popular fandom OTPs you only BroTP?*

Azriel and Cassian, listen if a fic I really like includes it, I will read it, but I will skim the chapters like crazy. I just cannot imagine it. They are *solely* bros to me.

Have you ever unfollowed someone over a fandom opinion?

Everytime I open Tumblr I block a new person because of their fandom opinion.

Do you have a NoTP in your fandom? Are they a popular OTP?*

Feysand, Nessian, Gwynriel, Elriel, Elucien, in that specific order. Feysand, for the obvious reasons, I hate Rhysand, and I don't really like Feyre. I hate Cassian and need to free Nesta from his clutches. I really, really, really don't want Azriel anywhere near Gwyn, he literally smiled at the idea of Cassian physically abusing Nesta. Elriel, because I like neither of them. And Elucien, because free my man Lucien, Elain is going to make him eat glass and he's gonna do it, and she's not gonna even help get him to a medic.

Has fandom ever ruined a pairing for you?*

Elain x Tamlin x Lucien, I used to love it for various reasons and planned a fic around it. Then someone sent me various fics about it and... I'm not writing it now out of spite.

Has fandom ever made you enjoy a pairing you previously hated?*

Yes and no? I don't think any of the ships I've hated I've come to like, but fandom has shown me new ships that I now absolutely adore like Tamlin x Tarquin, Tamlin x Hybern and Tamlin x Eris.

Is there anything you used to like but can’t stand now?*

I'm assuming this is just going for anything in the fandom, soooo, theorising for the next book. I used to be *full* of theories and now I just... whatever SJM writes is going to suck, so I dont even care anymore.

Have you received anon hate? What about?*

Yes. My opinions. My favourite characters. My ex-girlfriend (about her, not from her). My general existence.

Most disliked character(s)? Why?

Rhysand.

If I listed all the reasons why, we would be here all day, so I'll put them in these convient links.

A list of Rhysand's abusive actions throughout the series next to Tamlin's

What Rhysand did to Feyre was NOT for her protection

Rhysand's SA of Feyre is not justified in any way

Rhysand had no right being Tamlin's Court in ACOFAS

Most disliked arc? Why?

I hate pretty much every single thing that happened to the plot post-first book, but I think the one I hate the absolute most was the villainization of Tamlin's character, just, reading Feyre's inner monologue about him makes my literal blood boil.

Is there an unpopular character you like that the fandom doesn’t? Why?

Elain Archeron.

So many people just adore her, and then try to shove it down your throat, and then if you don't like her or criticize her behavior, you're a misogynist. It's the same line of thinking that's used to justify mindless hatred of Tamlin and the people that like him.

Again, if I went over every single reason I didn't like Elain, we'd be here all day, so here are more convenient links.

Elain is selfish, and that's what makes her interesting

Not liking or not being interested in Elain is not misogyny???

Is there an unpopular arc that you like that the fandom doesn’t? Why?

Oooooh, the Valkyries winning the Blood Rite. I'm actually in the process of making a whole rant about this because the amount of tiktoks and posts I've seen that have said the Valkyries winning is 'unrealistic' and 'shouldn't have happened' makes my blood boil. Ill link the post here once I finish it.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTIONS THESE ARE FUN TO ANSWER

[littleshysheep-at-da]

Do you happen to have a discord account? There's a Kumo Desu discord. It's really not the most active nowadays, but it's there

I do actually! But I have probably the smallest social battery in the world and am also just a person who is INSANELY introverted, so I’m a very infrequent conversationalist. (Just a heads up to everyone I tend to give my Discord as a method of Content at Cons but uh… If I ever meet you in person and add you pls don’t worry if I don’t message you, I’m not trying to avoiding you or trying to ghosting you I’m just anti social and a dumby).

But honestly? I avoid general Fandom Servers (and ESPECIALLY Reddit Subs) like the plague. They’re just… too… unfiltered? Like I’ve come to learn how in Fandom everyone has different things they’re interested in. So you can be into the same Series but just completely incompatible, and that’s not that incompatible people are not bad people at all!!! You just have vastly different focuses and therefore not a lot to talk about! And since I’m mostly a Character Analysis Shipper type (and particularly a DIEHARD OTP/OT3 person) I tend to avoid more Gen stuff cause Shippers often get shit. Like excuse you Shippers DO care about Analyzing the Media!! But a lot of people in Kumoko are really in to like… Power Levels? And I mean yeah it has a lot of Stats and stuff so I don’t think that’s like an invalid point of interest!!! But it’s just never been my thing.

Plus with Kumoko I once checked the Reddit (mistake on my part I know) and (if I’m being honest about my bitterness, so heads up this next part is full of spite I’m sorry) saw people going for Ships I hate with such a passion I had to question if they even Read the Series or are Literate at all. Like my god I have never had NOTPs THAT STRONG. Like not liking the same Ships doesn’t have to be a dealbreaker (really depends on what they are though)!!! Like usually Ships I don’t like fall on a scale of “I could see it but it’s not my go to” to “that kinda icky but I knew it would be gross” but this was a “I have never questioned someone’s Reading Comprehension harder in my life and I want murder”. And do not get me started on people who Waifu Shiro and dumb her down to a Dere girl when her best quality is being insane. And people on Reddit are often mean and idk if Discord Servers are the same.

I mean… I guess this me having to come clean that I am… weirdly over protective of my Character Reads and Ships in Kumoko. Like a lot. Like a “I genuinely don’t understand why I get worked up about it so much?” (My best guess is left over Bullied Kid Trauma but I ain’t about to Trauma Dump rn) So ummmm there’s that… (my other all time Fav Series is Persona and idk cause it’s a Game I kinda expect there to be lots of people with bad takes cause people do Play Games without Reading the Dialogue at all (I know it’s super weird) and it’s a big enough (much bigger than Kumoko) Fandom for there to be people of all takes…) honestly Posting on Kumoko content has been super good for me cause it’s making me feel more comfortable talking about my Opinions? So I always have to give a BIG Thanks to people who send in Asks and Like my Posts.

… SORRY THIS REPLY GOT SO LONG AND PERSONAL GAH! Basically I didn’t know there was a Server but I’m not super interested. I’m gonna instead try to cultivate (with an emphasis on cult lmao) the kind of very specific Content I want to see on my own Blog 🫡

Basically I’m a Post about Shiro x Ariel and there three kids Mera, Kyouya, and Sophia as well as my Shun x Katia x Kyouya Agenda until you all go insane and it invades your brain.

[cyberdragoninfinity]

If you haven’t gotten him yet for the ask game: syrus? Vehicroid time….

SYRUSSSS nobodys asked him yet but i will happily go off...

Why I like them/why I don’t: SYRUS TRUESDALE MY ACTUAL FAVORITE YUGIOH CHARACTER IM NOT KIDDING he's another one of those characters ive howled and wailed a thousand times about but god. i love him so much. character who resonated deep with me, he's such a good depiction of the sort of teenage self-consciousness neurosis an anxious terminally shy not many friends kid can stew in, and then he has a genuine character arc!! and it's a great one, one of the best in the show! he really is like the joey of gx and it pains me that people dont gaf about him half the time. he actually grows and develops and his dynamic with his brother makes me insaneo craayayayaayzaayy. also hes FUCKING MEAN AND IT'S HILARIOUS?!? YOURE LIKE 4'11" CHILL OUT i love him to bits!!! if i ever meet wayne grayson im gonna be in tears.

What I like about their appearance: honestly it's the glasses. i love the canon (from tag force) factoid that syrus changes his glasses when something big happens to him but nobody notices. I'LL NOTICE SWEETIE!!!

Do I prefer their dub names or original names? sorry im a dub name enjoyer 193489523984% here. "syrus with an S" is like absolute peak 4kids dub name its been stuck in my brain since 2006. im obsessed with it. like hell yeah man thats a syrus if ive ever seen one they were right.

OTP: WELL IM UNWELL AND MADE UP A SHIP FOR HIM THAT I GOT ATTACHED TO. SO. my kingdom for syrus/mana i think they could be autism4autism weird kids who match each others' freak so well. syrus deserves to be someone's lameass boyfriend. schoolbusshipping. fuck it.

NOTP: again not into jaden/syrus. but also if you ship him with zane i hope you explode ten thousand times

OT3: i dont think i have one for him??? hrm

Favourite card they use: POWER BOND. WAHHHH. i do also love the vehicroids theyre all SO so goofy. his little chevron cars.

Favourite moment they were in: will forever love his season 4 duel where he uses the cyberdarks and kicks that Jinzo guy's ass but honestly i think one of my all time favorite sy moments is the dub exclusive "YOU TRADED MY BED FOR A CARD." theres so many funny syrus lines this kid is hilarious

Least favourite moment: i dont think i have any moments that i just severely dont like with him but sometimes he is a little weird about women. stop that. sprays him with a hose

Something I associate with them: this post

[piperslovebot]

And I know now Even if I tried to change That somehow You'd end up with her anyway

[spider-jaysart]

Hi!! Can I ask Damian (and maybe Dick 🙏?) for the character ask game?

Thank you, take care <3

@zephyrwrites2

Damian

Favorite thing about them: I just love his whole personality loll. He's a crazy, funny little guy that I think is really cool

Least favorite thing about them: Nothing. Only when he gets really mischaracterized by official writers who don't understand him, which happens A LOT

Favorite line: "Father, I imagined you taller."

Brotp: Damian and Jon

Otp: Damijon

Notp: Batcest, any of them that have adults paired up with him, including the canon ones Mar'i x Damian, Cassie x Damian, and Cassandra x Damian

Random headcanon: He can do ballet and it's because it's something Talia taught him while he was growing up in the league and being trained to learn many other things. He's a skilled professional at it now because of this and also bonds with his sister Cass over it and will sometimes even join her in her dancing. He also tries teaching Jon too, which can become fun for them both, and his other friends sometimes as well whenever they get curious or don't actually understand it that much like they think they do. Damian also owns a pair of green ballet slippers, but usually keeps them put away in his closet to keep them safe and clean and only takes them out when he really does want to use them.

Unpopular opinion: Okay sooo, a lot of people believe that Talia's character just gets only more ruined because of Damian's existence or whatever, but I don't believe that at all. Damian may be her son and is big part of her life because of it, but his character itself has nothing to do with hers like that at all when it comes to hateful writers choosing to write her horribly and just as another evil, lunatic villain and whatever else. Some people even say that he stole her story, but he did grow up with her during those 10 years of his, so of course he's gonna have the same life she dealt with and is also gonna have to get through certain issues from it now too because of it. But the point is that if anyone's gonna get blamed for Talia's usual trash characterisation, it should be the writers who hate her, NOT Damian who has many writers of his own who don't even treat him that well or like him that much at all either just like with Talia. Trying to pick on him is never going to fix anything about her. If Talia's ever gonna get anything better that she deserves in comics and other things, it needs to be done by writers who actually have care about her character and don't have anything weird against her that just only causes bad intentions of messing her up and then THAT'S what will finally start doing justice for her. And this not meant as an argument towards anyone or whatever btw, this is just me stating my opinion and beliefs about the whole thing

Song I associate with them: Self love by Metro Boomin & Coi Leray (Mostly because even though Damian may always put on a very confident act and always seems so prideful of himself a lot of the times, he actually has a lot of insecurities underneath all of that and doesn't actually always think so great of himself as a person)

Favorite picture of them: Definitely this very beautiful panel of him ofc💖

I just LOVE the way Gleb Melinkov draws him and gives him his Arab features without holding any of it back as well! He even gives him long lashes (longer than Flatline's even, which I noticed while looking at another panel from this series!), which I really love too!!

Dick

Favorite thing about them: I really always liked his leadership style, especially in the Teen Titans 2003 cartoon, which I grew up with

Least favorite thing about them: Only when he's potrayed as a dumb, clumsy guy in some canon stories just to lift up other characters and put them in a bigger spotlight instead. It makes no sense because he's a professional acrobat and always has been that way since he was a little kid, so how could he ever be so trippy all over the place as if there are invisible banana peels getting in the way everytime?! And he is very smart, especially with all of the important experience he has from his many years of hero work, so he's not dumb either and if he was, he wouldn't have made it so far with this kind of life because of it or ever get much done like he did because he has to overly depend on others knowledge

Favorite line: "Titans Go!"

Brotp: Dick and Starfire, Beast boy, Raven, Cyborg (I know he's friends with many others too, but this is the group I grew up with and am more attached to, so they're my fave to see together)

Otp: Dickkory because they bring the best out in eachother and have so much love for one another too

Notp: DickBabs because I just don't think they really fit that well together at all and most times Barbara just makes Dick feel bad in a lot of ways with how she usually treats him in a romantic relationship, and that's not a healthy thing to deal with at all. And then there's also Batcest and Slade x Dick (which I don't even get at all because Slade is just such a horrible, gross and very toxic guy)

Random headcanon: Years ago, back when he would used to have long hair still, he one time had it tied up in a ponytail and then a villain chopped it off in half while fighting him. Dick was pissed and really kicked their butt for doing that

Unpopular opinion: People always think of Dick as the positive, sunshine guy and then there are the ones who get very mad about it and say that he's actually the angry, tough guy because him being super friendly and happy is just too "ooc". I don't listen to any of that stuff, because I believe that he's actually both. He IS a friendly guy with a warm, charming, humorous attitude that easily attracts others, and is very much an inspiration to many because of his positive, sunshine vibes as a great, hardworking hero, but none of it makes him dumb, weak or gullible, because he IS also the type who can become very serious and gets mad when he needs to be, also doesn't actually take bull from anyone, can be chaotic and crazy, works a LOT, is independent, does have a lot of intelligence and especially experience that should never be forgotten about just because he's nice, and also definitely has the determined mind to take care of things and get them done even though others will sometimes try to tell him what to do, but he doesn't actually listen because he's not the type to easily be controlled that way like a puppy would be and if he believes it's something that needs the attention and it's what should be done and no one else is doing it, then he will do it

Song I associate with them: Annihilate by Metro Bommin, Swae Lee, Lil Wayne & Offset (because it's about being fearless, embracing self strength and individuality, and becoming a much more independent person, and I think that totally fits Dick because he's not the type to fear much and hates being stuck under Batman's shadow and having independence is something that always had an important role in how Dick's life goes)

Favorite picture of them: Well, I just found this pic of him, which was done by Travis Moore

It's very nice and really shows the struggle he goes through as a hero a lot of the times. Also, I really always liked the way he draws Dick, because he doesn't just look like everyone else and isn't sharing same face syndrome with his brothers and Bruce either, it's just a look that's unique to only him and it fits him very well. It's the exact way I always imagine him looking like whenever I envision him in my mind, even the hairstyle that's given to him by this artist too!!!

Thank you for sending this ask, I enjoyed answering it! And you take very good care too!! :)

[hikari-kaitou]

before i answer yours, bvz for the ask meme?

Favorite thing about him: I was gonna say something thoughtful like "the way he can admit when he's wrong," but lbr, that's not what makes him hot. It's his emotional constipation that makes him hot 😂

Least favorite thing about him: since he moved past his racism already, I'm going to say "the fact that we never got to see him smile in-game". I get why it didn't happen, but I'm still sad 😭

Favorite line: "The man has no idea. To believe in yourself and work your fingers to the bone to realise your dreams... That's laudable, not laughable. No one has the right to deride another for such choices." I just love seeing him support his bff ok? It was so sweet

Brotp: does Barok+Iris count as a Brotp?

Otp: Baroryuu

Notp: Baroaso, it just does nothing for me and I'm not the biggest fan of Asougi

Random headcanon: Look at his stance and flexibility and tell me that man doesn't have significant ballet training.

Unpopular opinion: idk, if you ask some fans (mostly Western ones for some reason), the fact that I think he's one of the best characters in the series is an unpopular opinion

Song I associate with him: Renegades by ONE OK ROCK and Anata ga Iru koto de by Uru (this one is specifically a Baroryuu song to me)

Favorite picture of him:

[the-bi-space-ace]

“Send me a character” ask but I want to ask for both Arthur and John from Malevolent if possible. 💜

Of course you can ask for both 🩶

Arthur:

Favorite Thing: he gives off my favorite traits in a character: sad, traumatized, angry, and genuinely caring. He is The Character. Also I love horror.

Least Favorite Thing: he tends to judge people based on his own biases really quick. Very human of him so I love it from a writing and character perspective but it is one of his least desirable traits.

Favorite Line: “Daddy should’ve taught you to tie a better knot.” ARTHUR LESTER WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY?!? I cannot believe that came out of his mouth I am SHOCKED say it again Arthur. That was the coolest he’s ever been.

brOTP: genuinely it’s him and Peter, his partner who is dead. I wish we got to see more of them because Peter sounds like the BEST MAN.

OTP: I’m gonna say something wild. I want Arthur, Oscar, and John to be a weird mind bendy throuple and I’m not sorry about it. Any relationship Arthur is in is always between Arthur&John and someone else so I would gladly take that relationship any day of the week.

nOTP: ya know what I’ve not seen much in the Malevolent fandom that I can’t get behind. My nOTP is Arthur and Sleep.

Random headcanon: he really loves his hair played with. Like. Realllly loves it. He will fall asleep if someone does it to him. It hasn’t happened in so long he just wants to be loved 😭

Unpopular opinion: I actually really vibe with his ‘fuck around and find out’ attitude and I think more characters should be his level of gremlin energy. I love that he’s angry and vicious and he puts out this ‘don’t fuck with me’ vibe into the world. I love how intense he can be. How he’s so raw and real and has this amazing humanity to him that gets twisted and betrayed and I love it. I love how complicated he is. That he’s done bad things. That he’s hurt people. That sometimes he straight up doesn’t feel bad about it. I wish more characters had that kind of effort put into them. Podcasts do something that visual media rarely ever pulls off: perfecting the character work with the plot.

Song I associate with them: Fear & Delight by The Correspondents

Favorite picture of them: this art is excellent

John

Favorite thing: he’s a terrifying god trapped in a man’s head and he’s the equivalent of a cat. I love this energy he has. He’s a clingy, loud, ball of fury. The perfect killing machine in an itty bitty package.

Least favorite: he can be incredibly selfish and very manipulative and it hurts not only Arthur but also himself and the people around them.

Favorite Line: This Too Shall Pass. Classic.

OTP: same answer 🩶🩶🩶 although I ship him more with Arthur than Oscar but still. Weird other worldly throuple where he once tried to have Arthur kill Oscar and now they're all just like kinda chill about it.

brOTP: John & the movies. Besties 🩶

nOTP: John & the axe. Put it DOWN JOHN.

Unpopular opinion: 99% of the time podcasts are better than other forms of media. Genuinely could not think of an unpopular John opinion lol

Song I associate with them: Fire by Barns Courtney

Favorite picture of them: I love this art the best <3

[danthediamondminecart]

yO

guess who couldn't hold it in

(I WONT SPAM I PROMISE 😃😃😃😭😭😭👍👍👍👍)

I just wanted to ask a teeny tiny lil question, can you give us a semi-detailed summary of how you potray the BLSMP battlers????

Like how do u wanna show them in the series, cuz i have a feeling we r potraying them VERY differently, and i wanna know how YOU think of them before i start to theorize once again >:3 (hopefully i will soon)

And also, ships. Can you ramble abt rbb ships?? U said u were gonna ramble abt some??? Im still waitin' Xd

Cuz some of them r so weird dude like WHAT 😭😭😭😭🤚🤚🤚🤚

I’ll start with the ships question first, because I feel like the second question is a hell of a loaded one. Basically, I’m not a shipper, and don’t really get it. But ship and let ship, don’t ship and let ship, as long as you’re not being an asshole about it, I won’t get upset. Hence why I haven’t made one of ‘em ‘ranking ships’ lists, because I really don’t care.

Won’t stop me from having capital-O-Opinions, though. My friends will know that TanqrCraft became a bit of a NOTP for me because of its overabundance and some poor interactions with the forefathers of the ship (2021/2022 RBB fandom was wild, guys, be glad you weren’t there), and my theory on PinkNebula feels controversial, as I've said. I am slowly working on the PinkNebula essay, but it’s not a priority, so it might not come out for a while.

As for the second question, as much as I love rambling about characterisation, I think attempting to show how I characterise all fourteen of BLSMP’s main cast (including Jimmy and Russo) would be quite difficult, especially trying to keep it short. I do have my hypothetical 'bios' for a hypothetical ref sheet, but those are as much about their backstories and set-up than it is about their personalities.

So…who’s up for a drabble under the cut? This is something that I feel like definitely happened during BLSMP, but it doesn’t fit anywhere during the story, plus you know the cast, so you don’t need a scene like this.

Perhaps I'll post this as supplemental material (like, in a separate 'work') on AO3?

“You know, Russo.” Jimmy pipes up, snapping Russo out of his thoughts. “Remind me. How many Robloxians got trapped again?”

“Twelve.” Russo answers. “How come?”

“Well, you know. I don’t know any of them, and I kinda want to know a little bit about your friends! Well, I know, BigB, but you get the gist.”

“Jim, if I attempted to explain my friends to you, we’d be here all day.” Russo chuckles a bit.

“Okay, well, why don’t we make it a game?” Jimmy suggests. “You attempt to explain your friends to me in 3 sentences or less.”

“Oh?” Russo raises an eyebrow, so Jimmy elaborates.

“Like, uh, using BigB as an example. Kind but mischievous, enjoys mucking about, cares deeply for his friends.”

“Hmm. Okay, I can do that, though I’m probably going to go over the limit. Repeatedly.” Russo takes a second to think, before starting. “We’ll go in alphabetical order:”

“AshleyTheUnicorn, RB Battles S2 finalist. Fearless, reckless, goes headfirst into battle, always encouraging her friends to be the same, BigB, we both know and love him, but he’s a little quieter around Robloxians from what it sounds like, DenisDaily, also a finalist - can charm anyone that he meets with just his smile, generally more aloof unless it’s a matter to do with someone’s wellbeing, DylanHyper, though we usually just call him Hyper - yet another finalist, prone to nervousness but also the smartest person in a room, if he's got a plan for something he'll have considered every detail, Flamingo, aka Albert, lover of chaos and breaker of rules, the type of person to kidnap people for fun, but does love his companions in his own way-"

“Slow down, what do you mean kidnap-"

“KreekCraft! Another finalist and the former victor. Jack-of-all-trades, super confident as long as you don’t question him and his determination is unmatched (even when it gets unhealthy), LeahAshe, finds it easy to make friends and teases them all, generally likes to act as both a mediator and as the cause of strife, adaptable but cowardly at times, MeganPlays, likes to know everything she can about everything and is always curious, a bit of a pessimist, and tends to hold grudges for longer than she can even remember, PinkLeaf, quiet and dislikes social situations, but with one heck of a temper so don’t anger him (we all think he’ll be the favourite to win Season 3), prefers to run away from fights both verbal and physical, iAmSanna, or just, well, Sanna, unafraid to speak her mind even with a sword pointed at her, super perceptive and spots everything, prone to intense emotions of whatever variety, Sketch, an ‘act-first-ask-questions-later’ kind of guy, likes to mess about and has a tendency to end up as a bit of a load, will look out for his team though always himself first, Finally, there’s TanqR, current reigning champion. Normally laid back and chill but has a fiery side, likes his control, likes the fact that people are intimidated by him, would rather solve his problems through punching.”

“Okay, there’s a lot you glossed over there, but I won’t bring it up.” Jimmy’s still reeling from the ‘kidnaps people for fun’ comment. “Ooh, ooh, actually, do me! You’re good at the 3-sentences thing, do me!”

“Hmm…only if you do me. SolidarityGaming, you’re, hm…prone to yelling and making mistakes, but more courageous than you first appear, and dedicated to whatever cause you choose.”

“Aww, that’s…you know, with the way that started, I really wasn’t expecting you to be nice there.” Jimmy admits, somewhat bashful. “As for you…well, you’re optimistic at all times and clearly will do whatever it takes to protect your friends, though I have to say, you’ve got some wild ideas.”

“I’m going to take that last part as a compliment.” Russo jokes, leading Jimmy to giggle.

“Well, your friends sound like a colourful bunch.”“We’ve gotten pretty good at controlling the more chaotic personalities. Uh, not perfect, but pretty good.” Russo replies.

“I certainly hope so.”