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i find it kinda silly that warlocks have marks but nephilim don’t, considering the fact that angle blood is potent as fuck
Thus the eternal popularity of wing!fic/wing!art, yes? 💘
On the one hand, this could just be because angels and demons are opposing forces, one cancelling out the other, diametrically opposed on a metaphysical/magical level, so their powers manifest in different ways in their children.
(They're mostly all rather absurdly beautiful after all. Maybe that's their angel mark? *snickers*)
On the other hand, in a slightly more jilly likes making up magic lore point... maybe nephilim aren't half-angel in at all the same way warlocks are half-demon?
And this got long and rambly, so:
It is canon that the children of nephilim are always nephilim... which isn't how inheritance works, generally speaking.
If nephilim were half-angel/half-human in a biological sense, then shadowhunters would presumably be sterile, a combination of two barely compatible bloodlines just like warlocks.
But they can have children. Perhaps that's just something about angelic bloodlines, a power aimed more at life than the demonic bloodlines that seem more like death? (If that was it though, one wonders why would demons be able to have half-human children at all?)
If it was somehow just inheritance, even hand-wavey magical inheritance, nephilim should, one would think, be getting less and less angelic over time, no matter how carefully the Clave tries to manage their family lines.
(And losing the Mortal Cup really would be a death knell for the world, because the nephilim would in fact die out no matter how many children they tried to have, and then the demons would win. It might take awhile, depending on how frequent one thinks incursions are, and how many nephilim there were before the uprising, but still. There is no balance, just inevitable defeat.)
But modern shadowhunters are still capable of killing demons, can still use adamas and runes, can still (however reprehensible this is) overpower and subjugate the down world.
They continue to have angelic power no matter how removed they are from their founders.
They also continue to have angelic powers even when infected/attack by demonic ones. You literally can't take the angel out of a nephilim.
Otherwise Jonathan Morgenstern wouldn't have been able to bear runes, Tessa wouldn't have been able to have children in the books, Luke wouldn't have been a shadowhunter again after his lycanthropy was cured in the TV show. (Deruned shadowhunters wouldn't explicitly be so tempting to demons once they lose their protections.) Which does at first sound like they're still half-angel under the demonic corruption...
BUT!
Fallen angels also still have angelic power, despite being 100% demon.
Magnus' ability to interact with adamas/shadowhunter tools makes that explicit: he's partially angelic even as a half-demon/half-human warlock.
Which is too many halves if nephilim abilities came from being half-angel!
Perhaps, angelic power literally can't be broken down, regardless of anything else happening around it or containing it... instead, angelic grace is simply eternal. Immutable, irresistible, unavoidable... once seen it is never ever forgotten.
Thus purging the angelic core works against Lilith without also making the Institute defenseless, the so-called Herondale birthmark never fades. (Does this mean Clary and her bloodline will also be marked somehow, in a way we have yet to see defined in canon, Ithuriel's grace made manifest on them forever?)
If we follow that logic through the aforementioned Tessa/Jonathan/Luke (perhaps even Max Trueblood and any other deruned shadowhunters who go on to live mundane lives) maybe nephilim are actually still just human. They have children, they live, they grow old, they die.
Perhaps nephilim are forever touched by angelic grace, but never actually part of it?
(Is this in fact part of what makes angels different than demons? They will not corrupt or twist humanity into something other, but they will grant a gift. One that is inhuman, amoral, one that burns cold and eternal and is necessary, perhaps, but not kind. Is this their true problem with Clary's use of runes in the TV show, that she is twisting humanity into something else, that she is corrupting them by combining angelic and demonic and human in a way that is anathema and dangerous to angelic grace? Angels do not interfere with humanity, except to try and prevent demons from interfering with humanity. Thus never stopping Valentine, or interfering with the Clave no matter how ruthless they became. Their sins were still human sins, not demonic ones.)
Maybe nephilim are not inherently immune to demonic influence, to possession or bearing demonic children. The gift of grace allows them to access angelic power, lets them use it to actively protect themselves, much like they're trained to fight and use runes and forge adamas etc. but they are still just human.
This makes Valentine's ability to 'create' a demon that can sneak into the Institute and possess shadowhunters (can kill Jocelyn and poison Izzy) much more palatable. He's not creating something that can bypass nephilim nature. He just found a way past the tools they use to protect themselves.
SO!
Back to my meta on your actual original comment.
Perhaps nephilim do not have marks in the way that warlocks do because they're not half angel.
They're infected like werewolves or vampires, just with a more difficult transmission, only possible through children rather than blood or violence. (And isn't that actually the first thing that does make sense as an angelic trait? Family and bonds and love and life, not death, as the only way to succeed, as the only way to continue.)
They have symptoms of angelic grace, a magical counter to demonic corruption: fortitude and beauty and the ability to use angelic tools. They're the opposing force to vampire speed and seduction and fangs, to werewolf strength and pack and transformation.
This is why they can't do magic like warlocks and seelies, even if they are supernatural. This is why they're still mortal. They're still just human however hard they try to pretend otherwise.
At some level, this is probably part of why the Clave despises werewolves and vampires even more than fae and warlocks. They're all too similar, too clearly an illustration of there but for the grace of angels...
Literally.
#jilly answers#forever-nox#my sh rambling#sh meta#shadowhunters#jilly plays with lore again#but cannot remember any of her tags#and tumblr killed the auto fill#*sighs forever*#eldritch angels#are infecting people to fight demons for them#not having children with humans#just saying
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Prompt 113
“I seem to have been taken hostage.” Batman’s words almost had Superman panic if not for the wry tone, a tone which the others didn’t know if their freaking out was to go by. Clark sighed through the comms, tired after battle and honestly wanting to go to bed now.
“I’ll be right over, what child has latched onto you now?” He asked while switching to a more private channel.
“I can already hear you making fun of me…” Wha- Oh. Clark bit his lip to keep himself from laughing as he took to the air. “They appear to be a pair of twins with…”
“You gotta’ say it Bruce, you gotta’,” Clark couldn’t stop the chuckle when he saw his friend on the top of a building, cape curled around his form in a way usually reserved for the robins.
“... with dark hair… and blue eyes…” That was it. Clark absolutely lost it in laughter.
#dcxdp#dpxdc#Danny & Ellie fell into this world during an invasion were very scared#Latched onto the first semi-ecto contaminated person they found#Bruce gives off slight ghost vibes and feels safe so they aren't letting go any time soon#Could be Superbat might not up to yall lol#Batman is just staring down at the small children who have latched onto his leg and are crying#Look the man is a dad and a hero and isn't going to leave the kids there#It's also highly concerning when he finds out they're not in the system#And their DNA is only half human with the rest being... something who knows#Apparently he's adopted a pair of half aliens but that's not going to stop him#“I could take them if you need-”#“No they're my babies now no takes backs”
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The Pantheon of Exandria;
"One thing, Dad. [Mortals] don't fear you, they resent you."
No Children by The Mountain Goats // Critical Role: Campaigns 1 and 3, Critical Role's Downfall
#this has been rotting in my head for months. freeing myself of it by tossing it into the sunday night void.#i blame laura bailey's choice to have the matron poke at the gods paternalism and bells hells as a party#for having the general disposition to the gods that is akin to that of children discovering for the first time that their parents are human#cr downfall#critical role#exandrian pantheon#long post#my post#web weaving#brennan lee mulligan#ashley johnson#matthew mercer#laura bailey#abubakar salim#nick marini#noshir dalal#taliesin jaffe#sam riegel#aabria iyengar#the wild mother#the arch heart#the everlight#the lawbearer#the matron of ravens#the dawnfather#the emissary#cr3#exu downfall
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"There should be security cameras inside of classrooms." Eh, sure. We have them in the hallways and cafeteria. Maybe not my first choice for how to spend tax dollars, but whatever. Then if an issue arises, the footage could be pulled on request and reviewed.
"There should be security cameras with a live stream inside classrooms that parents can view whenever they want to keep their kids safe." Are you insane. Are you absolutely out of your mind. Even assuming that this theoretical live stream would be limited to just the parents of children who have a class in that specific room (not the whole school)....you want dozens of strangers (in elementary) or hundreds of strangers (secondary) to be able to have a live stream of *your child* at school? You can't see a single possible safety or privacy issue that could arise from that situation?
#the absolutely unhinged things you see people say online#i really do think that these people forget that other humans exist sometimes#that they would not be the only person who would be affected by these proposals#what absolute nightmare#even setting aside possible creepers#the risk to children who have been removed from abusive situations if that abusive person gained access#like come ooooooon
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Sooo...tmnt 2012.
I didn't mean to draw fanart.
My sister came up with some human designs and I loved them so much I had to draw some.
I got that line from an "Animaniacs" comic, incase you had any doubts about me being a nerd.
And the sad now 🥲
I have been in this fandom for barely a week and if anything happened to my boys I would kill everyone in the room and them myself.
#this is the literal last franchise I thought I would become attatched to in my 20s#but here we are#tmnt human designs#but only for#tmnt 2012#becuase the rise boys look totally different#fanart#tmnt fanart#tmnt 2012 fanart#tmnt leonardo#tmnt raphael#tmnt donatello#tmnt michelangelo#2012 leo#2012 raph#2012 donnie#2012 mikey#I have four new children now#I love them all so much#if it wasn't obvious 'protective bro raph' is my favorite thing ever#my art#digital art#I fully believe the hyperfixation is affecting my health#but I don't care#this show makes me feel things
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one of the things that continues to strike me on reread is how much the character of Darcy, and Austen through him, finds Mr. Bennet dead. And how much Elizabeth, in growing and changing and discarding her past blindness, has to move past her way of seeing her father and thus of seeing reality, because the two are connected! Darcy’s letter exposes her father’s flaws to Elizabeth in a way she’d never been able to see before. Most especially the way his laziness and neglect of his own gifts have hurt his family and that ultimately he doesn’t. care. Not enough to change. It literally says that she comes home from Hunsford and tries to laugh at her sisters’ and mother’s folly (the way she used to; the way her father has taught her to by example for her whole life) and she can’t anymore! It sticks in her throat. She is grieved by the failures that she sees in him, all the more so because she IS his favorite and she loves him! And the thing about Mr. Bennet is he never changes. The Lydia/wickham situation exposes to him sharply his own conduct and the consequences and he feels it! Because he is neither stupid nor unfeeling. But he, like everyone, has free will. And he chooses not to change when the opportunity presents itself. He even jokes about how quickly his feeling bad will pass and how soon everything will go back to normal, to his laziness and his selfishness. He is set in his ways and he serves as a contrast to Elizabeth’s personal journey because he embodies a version of a person she could have become and was in danger of becoming if her only goal at all times was to laugh at and judge people from the sidelines.
#pride and prejudice#I’ve always loved his character because he IS funny and he is iconic!!! and his love for Lizzy is touching!#he’s not faking it.#but he is so flawed. a man of taste a man of ability a man of judgment.#a man who could and SHOULD have set a different tone for his children and chose not to!#and they SUFFER FOR IT#their house is a divided one. and every child feels the pain of living in a house where the parents neither respect each other#nor are on the same team#there is a crack running through their house for this reason and it’s how Lydia (and Kitty) came to be so neglected!#who is going to discipline them or guide them? certainly not Mr. Bennet!#he’s so important to teach too. because the boys LOVE HIM. of course!#and are always very struck by his failures and laziness once I point it out#and yeah Darcy one of the only people who can expose him. because Darcy is putting in the work a man should be doing#Darcy’s house IS in order. his love is active and protective. he is fulfilling his role!#Mr. Bennet’s gifts are so extraordinary—the wit. the insight into human nature. honestly the capacity for wisdom#but he likes his library. he likes enjoying himself more than he likes doing his duty#as either a father or a husband#he does fail Mrs. Bennet! I have compassion for her there#anyway I love to think about this: something no version I have ever seen has ever fully explored#but man is it on the page#yeah yeah sorry for all the words. teacher off duty etc.
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look i understand if you like marius because this is the evil morally bankrupt vampire story. however when people argue that marius was actually really cool and chill and normal about armand i want to fight them
#iwtv#csa ment incoming but. armand is 14 extremely traumatized has complete amnesia of his entire life and can barely speak.#and marius immediately has sex with him. and armand specifically mentions that he is prepubescent at this point#ive seen people argue that armand could consent bc he is 14 the age of consent at the time. HE CANT SPEAK BUDDY#i get that things were different 500 years ago and they’re all morally objectionable beasts who see humans as food#but i think it’s very obvious that having sex with traumatized mute children is a bad idea. and i think even marius knew that#csa mention#sa mention#posting from my drafts. it’s time
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Im sure this has alr been done in the past, anyway Reverse-Falls-But-It's-With-Bill-Instead
I had these goobers drawn up for like 3 weeks, but college be in the way of me remembering that I have art lol
#i feel i should mention that obviously this isn't my actual take in a human bill ‚‚‚ this is just for the lols dnsjajkqkq#ANYWAY I LOVE DIPPERS EXPRESSIVE HAT .... I LOVE IT‚ MY BRAIN RLLY HIT THE CORNER WITH THAT ONE#anyway i love them they are my children now#gravity falls#mabel pines#bill cipher#dipper pines#‚‚‚‚ and uhmm#‚‚‚‚ i have toxic billford in the works too ‚‚‚‚#alex rlly gave us shitty exes huh 😔😔#ashart#ash doodles
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Thinking about having a baby with Lilia and how this experience would be different for him.
Prior to you, Lilia didn’t have anyone to help him all the time. Malleus was left at the castle and with Silver he had help from Malleus and the Zigvolts.
But otherwise, he didn’t have anyone to depend on. But with you? It would be different.
He’ll have someone to be there with him. The nights when the baby can’t sleep and their lungs cry endlessly. He won’t be the only one to hold and calm them.
Juggling cleaning the house, cooking, keeping an eye on the babe; won’t all fall to him. He can divide those duties with another.
Malleus, Silver, and Sebek will watch and care for the baby on those days you two need a break.
He might have experience in raising children, but doesn’t mean all those experiences were good ones or right for them. (Stares at book 7)
There are actions and choices even he has to unlearn and he can do it with you. Together.
Both of you are not perfect, no parents are no matter how many children they raised, but both of you try your best.
You both might squabble over certain things but in the end, compromises are made. (Never compromise on food, ever)
Lilia thinks he’s learned all there is to raising kids but that’s not true. He’s still learning and adapting.
It’s fun and unpredictable.
It’s a new experience for him every time.
But living in this house? With his family?
A house made home?
He wouldn’t have it any other way.
He would always cherish these gifts in his life.
#do you ever think about how general Lilia said he wouldn’t have a family and kids but he ended up with both a family and two children?? and#also you and kids with you if you both choose to have them#how he literally changed and how love changed him#how very…human of him 🥹💞#lilia vanrouge#diasomnia#lilia vanrouge x reader#twst x you#twst x reader#twisted wonderland x reader
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The whole "breasts shouldn't be politicized because the primary purpose of breasts is to feed babies!" can be a fine jumping-off point, but I really wish people thought deeper than that when we talk about the ways in which bodies are politicized and restricted.
Like, why's it that when we talk about breasts, they must have some Higher Purpose? It's true that breasts aren't inherently sexual, but they aren't valuable solely because they can potentially feed a baby. A human body doesn't have to serve a Higher Purpose in order for it to not be legislated against or policed, and I just wish people would remember it isn't always about babies, about other people, about anything else other than the people who have that body.
#feminism#dysphoria tw#your body doesn't need to have an Intrinsic Worthwhile Purpose so that you can live without fear#and it is fine if people say this to criticize the way breasts are overly sexualized and fetishized or what have you...#...but i encourage people to not see this as an end-all-be-all argument#because this opens discussions about how we politicize bodies and how we interpret them#i see overlap between this and the way trans bodies are politicized and policed honestly#and i guess personally i'm just so tired of the idea that to be safe your body Must Have A Good Reason To Be#and i fear this may reinforce the idea that we Must Serve Purposes and Be Useful and Used#ask to tag (genuine)#and what would this say for childless people? or people who cannot bear children? if they have breasts are they 'useless bodies'#because i have seen the ways some people's bodies are treated when they do not 'work PROPERLY' and that scares me#it scares me to potentially start treating people with different bodies as Defective and Unworthy and Unproductive#and i don't always trust when people latch onto purpose-driven arguments for human bodies that it stops at that y'know#have seen some discussion amd whatnot so 👍#is it now time to clock put and be a silly goose yet?
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Only the elves really see Elrond as "half-elven." They focus, of course, on who he is in relation to them. He's sort-of an elf– enough that they can accept him into their society, but not enough to erase his differences. They understand the different parts of him– his propensity to get sick, his elvish-sharp hearing, his need for sleep, his immortality– as "elvish" or "not-elvish." And while they can be rather condescending about anything they see as "not-elvish," they aren't usually very curious.
Most men regard Elrond vaguely as a fae being. This isn't unique to him– much of Middle-Earth's changling and fairy stories were built on the strange human-and-not-human nature of half-elves. Of course, different humans regard them very differently– sometimes with respect, even reverence, believing that "fairies" are beings of great wisdom and knowledge. Others see them with suspicion and fear, viewing them as sources of danger and deception.
To the Numenorians, Elrond is just one of them– a kind of "immortal man." He is like them in several key ways– he gets ill, he needs sleep, he regards the passage of time in a very "human" way. More importantly, he is their kin, a living remnant and reminder of both their mythical founder and non-human blood they share. He acts as a healer and counselor when they need him. This is all well and good until some of them start thinking that if Elrond could make the choice to be immortal, surely they should be able to as well.
The dwarves see Elrond as an elf. They absolutely do not care enough to tell the difference between him and the others. He's immortal, he's always with a bunch of elves. He's an elf.
The Maiar do not really understand what Elrond is, and have kind of defaulting to seeing him as one of them but like, small. Look, they're all uncounted thousands of years old, he's a child to them. They dote on him and think he's adorable, but sometimes forget that he's also part-elf and part-human, and can't just drop his physical form whenever he likes to go be a disembodied spirit in the clouds. Gandalf encourages all their antics. Elrond is working on it.
(Contrary to popular belief, the average hobbit does not have any kind of opinion on Elrond Peredhel. Bilbo Baggins, who lives in his house and has written several long, extremely personal ballads about his family history, is a statistical outlier and should not have been counted.)
#silmarillion#silm headcanons#elrond#elrond peredhel#eldritch peredhel#bilbo baggins#half elves#silm meta#elves and humans both see Elrond in very weird ways because they both kind of recognize him and kind of don't#the hobbits and dwarves just do not care#the maiar seeing anyone from Melian's line: a baby!#they'll have to fight the House of Finwe for Elrond privileges though#no one give them access to Elrond's children they'll be the most annoying aunts and uncles
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little guppies <3
#jrwi riptide#gillion tidestrider#edyn tidestrider#jrwi edyn#my art#sketch#wanted to draw them as children for a while now#idk how old they're here exactly... gill is supposed to be younger than 5 but he also looks a lot older than 5? whoops#i think i remember reading somewhere that tritons grow up faster than humans and reach maturity at 15 but i don't know where i read it...#idk doesn't matter#also gill doesn't have his stripes yet because he baby <3
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Prompt 126
You know what would be hilarious?
Constantine comes into one of those meetings as he sometimes does every blue moon. Though the proper word would be storms into a meeting and practically slams a whole stack of papers down. “Can someone bloody explain to me why the American-fucking-government is trying to go to war with the fucking Infinite Realms?!”
The Justice League is of course alarmed and confused- and also John weren’t you in Hell?! Yeah, he was, where the fuck do you think he found out about this?
Now if you’ll excuse him he’s going back to the House of Mysteries with his now haunted trench coat. John, John Constantine what the fuck do you mean by that? No don’t just leave, don’t leave this mess just for them- JOHN!
#dpxdc#dcxdp#prompts#John: Trenchcoats haunted#JL: What#John as a giggle comes out from beneath his coat: Trenchcoats haunted#John got a get out of hell free card via Clockwork seeing an Opportunity for good timeline#And hey his favorite ghostlings also get a mentor now#John: I did not ask for 5+ children#Clockwork: Too bad you’re now their human caretaker have fun#The GIW were getting Bad#Like bad enough Sam and Tucker are practically full ghost now#Team Phantom pointing at the skrunkly sad trenchcoat man: New Dad Acquired#Constantine in Hell: What#Clockwork: Hello new son here are papers with proof of everything and can you tell the speedsters to stop thanks#Constantine now out of Hell: W h a t
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the english dub translation does toshiro A LOT of favours with this line, as opposed to the manga translation that i read
the dub translation makes him sound (to me) like he was willing to let "asebi" escape and have her freedom if she wanted to, whereas the manga translation made him sound (to me) like he was willing to leave her alone to die as punishment for running away
(but also me having more knowledge of the series by the time the anime came out vs when i read the manga for the first time probably influenced how i interpreted those word choices)
the dub translation characterization kind of fits well with this bit from the adventurer's bible
like portraying toshiro not as a cold heartless person who is totally okay with the fact that his father basically owned child slaves, but as someone who knew something was wrong there but was too meek to actually do anything about the situation
#eliot posts#dungeon meshi#delicious in dungeon#dm anime spoilers#toshiro nakamoto#asebi#inutade#that translation difference made me dislike him A LOT LESS#i still don't like that he was too much of a coward to actually stand up against the whole ''buying human children'' thing#but at the same time idk if his father or maizuru would have even listened if he did#and at least he let asebi have that chance to escape
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Something about Vegapunk using the dna and blood of a caged and experimented on child to create more caged child experiments and the cycles we perpetuate.
Because what does it mean that all that King has left as proof, that the lunarians were real, that they existed as a tribe, as a people, are seven manufactured children he doesn’t even know about, enslaved as weapons to the government that wiped out the culture they’ll never get to be a part of, and Alber himself another enslaved child lost to something he’ll never fully know.
And what of the warlords? Already young once and hurt by their government, young again and slaves to it. Boa looking at a version of her practically pulled out of time stuck in her worst nightmare or Jimbei looking at a version of himself living out a past he escaped by the skin of his teeth but so many he loved didn’t, even Doffy once again at the mercy of the people that already abandoned him, has Kuma not suffered enough? Given enough, is this child version of him doomed to repeat the same path he already could not escape from . Property of the world government, beholden to the celestial dragons, this version of me that cannot go free?
It’s interesting that Vegapunk joined the government so that he could do the most good, but look at the long line of people right infront of him that he’s hurt with his own hands.
#god I did not mean for it to be this memo dramatic but I have alot of feelings about the seraphim#again I don’t think Vegapunk is a bad man he’s blinded by the greater good tho and his own thirst for knowledge#and while I’m sure that his invention did some good the flower pellets for one does that really erase the bad?#is he responsible or can he be held accountable for the good or the bad#but Vegapunk plays fast and loose with who he sees as humans#the other vegapunks while he acknowledges them as really just extensions of himself he treats them like people#same with stussy who is also a clone#but there is no humanity for the seraphim even tho they seem to feel more than the average pacifsta he treats them strictly as robot weapon#it’s strange and niche how he goes about classifying this in his head maybe it’s the only way he knows to live with it#because if the seraphim where children and he handed them Off to the government to become murderes and weapons of mass destruction#what would that say about him?#one piece#throwing thoughts to the void#dr vegapunk#vegapunk#warlords of the sea#7 warlords#boa hancock#jimbei#bartholomew kuma#donquixote doflamingo#seraphim#seraphim one piece#king one piece#alber one piece#king the wildfire#lunarians#op#one piece meta#one piece analysis
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Humans are scary to Cybertronians but in the way spiders are scary to people. They're small mostly harmless creatures and usually more scared of you but 1% of them can infact kill you will also be incredibly horrifying to look at.
We don't have enough fur to cover our skin, our mouth protrusions are so weird, have acid inside of us, and the fact we eat other organics is just so messed up.
#transformers x humans#humans are space orcs#hfy#probably doesn't help that technically we're the children of unicron#i feel like Cybertronians would usually have a fear of acid#you know considering their home world and all#transformers#transformers & humans#cracky humour#humans are scary
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