#nobody harass anyone

[sunclownsblog]

the article in question. thankfully, yes, it is by a fan

So I was looking through an old BlogClan article (made in 2021), and found this line

"We can all understand that Crowfeather never treated Nightcloud and Breezepelt well, but it's her fault for sticking around with him"

Maybe I'm wrong, but that feels like abuse apologia, or something like it, does it not? I apologize if I'm bothering you by the way.

That's like... THE abuse apologia line. That is a holographic out-of-print baseball card of the infamous A. Bewsa Pologia, signed.

Let's make it about physical abuse to make it more obvious; "Yes the husband beats his wife, but it's actually the wife's fault for staying with him." You see how fucked up the sentiment is, now? That applies to emotional abuse, too. "It's THE VICTIM'S FAULT they are being abused."

It comes in lots of other flavors, too. All of these are just the same sentiment rephrased;

"He pissed her off so it's his fault he got beaten"

"If you weren't so awful I wouldn't be so mad at you all the time"

"She should have known that wearing that outfit would have attracted unwanted attention"

"Maybe if you spent more time with me instead of your buddies, I wouldn't want to ruin your friendships"

"You did X so it's okay that I did this hurtful thing to you"

"Maybe if she wasn't so bad at handling finances, he wouldn't have to prevent her from having her own money."

NO ONE "deserves" abuse. It's not YOUR fault that someone else made the choice to control or hurt you. It never was.

Anyway I'm not sure of the article you're mentioning, SO until it's linked I'll just... hope that was a rando commenter and not an author lmaoooo. But I wouldn't be surprised either. They are INCAPABLE of being normal about Nightcloud.

[wis-art]

Idc if someone was cancelled or been ran off from the internet or whatever I will not participate in online mobbing even if the person was a dickhead, I will not be harassing anybody, because what is that gonna achieve other than isolating that person and giving them 0 space to even understand what they did. Fuck off, a person is more than the sum of their mistakes. ESPECIALLY if they're in their late teens/early 20s

[codgod]

Hermit "we love women" blr when they only focus on the "mistakes" the woman do and ignore whatever the men do

REAL !!! like nobody is out here harassing xisuma for his political views [centrist…] or whatever the fuck and yet cleo and pearl will say THE most reasonable things possible in a given situation [“if you see a fanfic you don’t like just block the person that posted it and move on” and “please don’t say i or my character have autism, you don’t know me personally and mental health is a very personal thing” [both paraphrased]] and suddenly they’re on the same level as the devil. from bible

[butwhatifidothis]

It really is strange how Edelstans simultaneously dig hard into people that don't agree with their specific interpretation of 3H to the point of being happy they manage to drive those people away... and be so upset and baffled that people become generally disinterested/actively hostile towards 3H content.

If folks get repeatedly driven out of a fandom, and that group of people repeatedly calls anyone who disagrees with their specific interpretation of 3H stupid/illiterate/"acting in bad faith"/sexist/racist/homophobic/etc., and it is repeatedly done by a group of people who insist that 3H's fandom problem is a "both sides" thing, with all of this being dragged into spaces that have nothing to do with 3H, well... obviously people are then going to start to dislike interacting with either 3H in general or its fandom in particular?

Edelstans are the ones spreading the idea that 3H's fandom in totality is shit. They keep trying to make their hands look cleaner than they are by claiming that everyone else's hands are just dirty as/even dirtier than theirs. Of course people who are unaware of everything are going to then assume that everyone's hands are dirty, thus making people not exactly want to shake hands with anyone.

Like, really now. What did they think was going to happen when they directly go after fanartists/fanfic writers who create/say things that go against the Approved Edelstan Status Quo, to the point that a non-zero amount of these creators just up and leave social media entirely? Or after they nitpick every single Disapproved Post and then lie about the post's OP? Or after it becomes a consistent pattern that people who even remotely disagree with Edelstans' opinions are always, without fail, buried with insulting and harassing anons? Or after they're shown time and time again to defend their worst actors with "well their/our victims deserved it because they said a 3H opinion we didn't agree with"? Or when they say that everyone does this shit in 3H's fandom except for them (which is either not believed because it's demonstrably untrue or is actually believed and now those people think the overwhelming majority of 3H's fandom is filled with shit)? Or when they drag 3H discourse into literally actually everything no matter how unrelated?

That with less fandom creators within the fandom space they'd get more content? That harassing and insulting people and accusing them of being this-and-that bigot is going to magically "correct" their minds into seeing The One Truth about 3H? That people are going to just look over all the shit they did just because they allocate the blame of their action on all of 3H's fandom? That people would like 3H more if they constantly remind people of the inarguable worst thing to come from 3H? That this would help 3H's general perception?

Fuckin' no, of course that's just going to make everyone fuck off from 3H. And would you look at that, a shit ton of people have fucked off from 3H since everything has been swept under a "well it'sth a bolth thides ithue tho what can ya do?" rug. And it's been swept under that rug by pretty much the only people who are pulling this shit, who then get shocked - utterly gobsmacked! - that that made them look bad too. That crying "both sides!" included themselves too and not just the people they've been harassing. That saying that the entire fandom is bad everywhere made the entire fandom look bad everywhere.

If Edelstans are really so upset that no one talks about 3H positively anymore, then maybe they should stop being the reason no one likes 3H anymore. Just a thought

[princsstwilightsparkl]

saying "if aroace people can date, then can lesbians date men?" is absolutely aphobic narrative btw!

[oceanwithouthermoon]

i think its weird that i have to make this disclaimer but the internet is crazy so wtvr,, anyway,,

if i say i dont like something, that doesnt mean "that thing is bad and nobody should post it.."

i swear literally every time i even mention that i dislike something, people will go "wow does that mean u fucking hate me cuz i post that thing? ur a fucking stupid bitch and all ur opinions r wrong" LIKE ?? er.. no. just because i say i dont like certain characterizations of certain characters (the saiki k fandom is CRAZY about this cuz i can state an opinion on literally any character and a group of people will still go 'well only we're allowed to post our opinions about them because we're always right!1!1!'), or certain ship tropes (mentioned my hatred of toxic yaoi maybe once or twice on here months ago and people STILL get mad at me as if i said toxic yaoi lovers r evil or something), or certain ships, or WHATEVER, does not mean that i HATE the people who are posting them or that i think they shouldnt post them at all, NO, im just posting about my personal tastes on my personal blog and it would be extremely weird and hypocritical if i decided that i was the ONLY person that was allowed to do that,,

i think the only reason people assume that is because there are a lot of other people on here who ARE like that, and a lot of people toe the line between posting that they dont like something and posting that they think everyone who likes that thing is stupid, annoying, and wrong,, so i guess all i can say is, sorry for whatever made you make these assumptions but they arent true about me so plz leave me alone ʘ‿ʘ ur doing the same thing to me that ur accusing me of but i didnt do it in the first place so ur just actively being a dick for no reason

[cybertron-smash-or-pass]

If the scourge war gets out of hand I may need to draft a scourgeneva convention

[dykevanny]

every time people misinterpret the ar emails I go even more insane

[kasumingo]

Rise twt sucks so badly five minutes of silence of anyone who is still in there

[clubsheartsspades]

Since I can't find the original post I wanted to reblog for this (thanks tumblr search function), I just wanted to hop on here really quickly to remind everyone that call out posts are harassment.

Every single call out post is harassment, they are intended to cause harm and those who say they are not are lying about their intentions. You write a call out post to purposefully harm and hurt the people you talk about. That's just it, there is no exception, there is no "but", call out posts accomplish exactly one thing and that is harass people.

[tacticalhimbo]

hey friendly fucking reminder that tumblr blogs are not content farms. if you genuinely get mad that someone is expressing themselves on their blog instead of posting the specific content *you* seek, go touch some fucking grass.

the whole point of a blog is to act as a personal hub. fyi. that's the whole reason blogs as a concept exist (and this is pre-tumblr; the internet used to be a personable place until corporations gutted it).

if you want mindless content farms, go back to tiktok or twitter (x) or instagram or wherever the fuck preys upon your personal data and targets content into your silver spoon.

unless someone explicitly says "my blog is for xyz and xyz only", expect the op running it to. i dunno. be a fucking human and post human things.

stop relying on others to curate your online experiences. fucking unfollow people! block people! filter words and tags! you are literally responsible for the things you see, and if seeing people being human is that much of a fucking bother that you have to go out of your way to send anon hate to the person expressing their feelings or seeking help and companionship during hardship????

that says a hell of a lot more about you then it will ever say about any other motherfucker out there. and i hope you have the day you deserve.

[eddiegettingshot]

i’m sorry tim minear being like that on facebook is literally so funny to me 😭😭😭😭 get up!!!! log off!!!!

[the-unicorn-system]

reminder that proshippers are fucking DISGUSTING. if you support or are "neutral" on them i want you to get the FUCK. AWAY. FROM US. im sick and FUCKING TIRED OF BEING FRIENDS WITH PEOPLE WHO REVEAL TO US "OH! YOUR DNI? YOUR DISCOMFORTS THAT YOU STATE STRAIGHT UP? WELL I IGNORED THAT, IM ONE OF THESE SHITFUCKS."

I HAVE FUCKING ALTERS OF THE TMNT AND IT MAKES US FEEL PHYSICALLY SICK WHEN THEY SEE ART OR FICS BEING SHARED OF THEMSELVES HAVING ROMANTIC OR SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS. I KNOW YOU FUCKS DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT SYSTEMS AND DONT CARE IF THEY EXIST OR NOT BUT HOLY FUCK. WE ARE THE WALKING DISPROOF OF YOUR "FICTION ISNT REAL!11!!" BULLSHIT.

AND IF YOU DONT WANT TO LISTEN TO A SYSTEM TELLING YOU THAT, THERE IS SCIENTIFIC PROOF THAT FICTION AFFECTS REAL LIFE, AND REAL LIFE AFFECTS FICTION.

SO, AGAIN. IF YOU ARE A PROSHIPPER THAT IS HIDING AWAY IN THE CORNER PRETENDING TO BE OUR FRIEND, OR FOLLOWING OUR ACCOUNT;

YOU ARE NOT WELCOME. GET THE FUCK BACK OVER TO THE CORNER OF THE INTERNET THAT LIKES YOU AND GET AWAY FROM THE ONES WHO WANT YOU OFF OF THIS TOXIC HELL HOLE.

[heyyfluffu]

How fucking bleak of an outlook do you have to have to think that voting for genocide joe is literally the only option?? There are plans! Campaign for a third party candidate! Donate! Work with your community to create mutual aid and organize labour unions!

I genuinely believe that if everyone who said that voting for biden is the only way actually stopped posting and used their time to campaign for someone better, that person might actually win. But they are so faithful to the system that they refuse to see any other alternatives.

Also op seems to think voting for biden will help Palestinians... I don't have to explain why that's wrong, right?

You say "vote for Biden" and refuse to provide any alternatives, so I can only assume you'd rather the people on Tumblr vote without thinking.

Unlike the OP, I'm gonna go ahead and include something actionable at the end of my post:

Organize

[astutior]

idk what my deal is but i'm kinda feeling idol au(s) recently fjdhdh

[ourflagmeansgayrights]

i truly hope the whole “negative metas about X character gives antis the rhetoric they need to justify harassment and therefore the people who make those posts are responsible for that harassment” take (aka the Stochastic Terrorism argument) lives and dies within the confines of the ofmd fandom bc if that escapes to the general fandom ecosystem there will be no end to people sending themselves anons or making throwaway accounts specifically to be like “i got hate bc you made a post about how my favorite character is sexist!” or whatever. like we’re about to take twelve steps back on the conversation about how fandom continually fixates on white male side characters to a very disproportionate degree if we don’t get this one under control.