#murder koschei oakdown

[kronos-lungbarrow-oakdown]

name a more iconic duo than a murderer and his enabler.

- my beta about lawyer!Theta covering Academy Era!Koschei's murders to keep his façade to the Time Lord society.

[leelarots]

just a silly little doodle ^_^

[stompandhollar]

“Poor little Doctor. Poor little Master…”

[blangg]

Drawing I did for my first thoschei animatic but ultimately ended up not using it since I just don't like it that much 🤧🤧🤧

[t1me-v0rt3x]

I could write a full essay on the symbolism between Koschei and Theta's names, and i see it loads. but why does no one talk about how Torvic's name means 'bay' or 'inlet' (meaning a branch of the sea, such as a *river*). like his name means river and he got murdered because he was drowning Koschei in a river.

i might write a whole thing about the name symbolism because i feel like it

[alexmey-does-an-arts]

why didnt koschei just drink all the water? is he stupid?

[sh4dz-kn8xx]

Guys... I finished the thoschei keychain

I think I'm going to burn it (rock murder reference) (torvic reference)

(I hate it/hj)

they are so silly ^⁠_⁠^

wut

[heavenb3nt]

Me, seeing connections where they weren’t intended: guys look he mentioned the way he was almost killed. Guys. Guys. Guys.

[saintclementinearts]

As an art request,, any twelve/missy or academy era thoshei,,?

i’m so obsessed with academy era thoschei it’s a shame there is literally 3 bits of canon content lmao

[wallapology]

What if we... 👉👈 🥺 Murdered the guy that bullies us ✨😏🥰 and pretended his body was a rock 😮😬🤫🤪 to get the authorities off our back 🖕🏻💖😩 and then I blamed his murder on you🤭🤔 haha.... just kidding.....

[leelarots]

hi. torvic rock murder. each time the rock comes on his head, regeneration energy sparks out of him like a fire striker against flint, but without it taking. am I making sense here. please

for reference, a fire striker

[kronos-lungbarrow-oakdown]

3) Don't let the loomling's friend kill him

4) Don't let the loomling and his friend kill someone

Brax’s comprehensive guide to caring for Theta Sigma

1) Don’t kill the loomling

2) Don’t let the loomling get himself killed

[incorrect-bbc]

Theta: Hey, wanna help us assassinate the President?

Ushas: Excuse me, this is the library.

Koschei: Oh, sorry, our bad.

Koschei, whispering: Wanna help us assassinate the President?

Ushas, whispering back: Yeah, yeah, sure, dude, what do I need?

[cupoteahatter]

Murder happens like clockwork - Adeline_Hatter (ladyadelinergrey)

Miss Theta.S.Lungbarrow and Lord Koschei Oakdown have been engaged since they were twelve officially, anyone you asked would claim them to be absolutely smitten with one another.

But few saw the truth that lay underneath, the truth that they rocked back and forth on the pendulum of hatred.

Now in close quarters and their wedding on the horizon, the two find themselves in quite the predicament.

Chapter Ten 

[thirddoctor]

I saw that in your post tags you don't like some of the interpretations that Master fans have, could you point some out? I agree and I'd like to hear your thoughts on it!!

I talked about some common ones here, but there are certainly more I could go into. Sometimes it’s not one thing in particular, just a general vibe. Like, the current vibe in the Master fandom is not at all to my tastes, which is one of the reasons I’ve stopped going into the tags much. Not to say it’s objectively bad or anything---my interpretations and preferences are no more valid than anyone else’s---so I’m a bit hesitant to be too critical here because I don’t want to make anyone feel bad. If you’re having fun, keep doing what you’re doing!

That said...

I mean, obviously, part of the problem is that I don’t agree with how the writers themselves interpreted the Master in the case of Simm and Dhawan, and their take impacts the fandom perception. But often I don’t think the fan perception is even accurate to those versions of the character. There’s a pretty rose-tinted, softened interpretation that I see a lot. People ignore their worst qualities or wave them aside by saying they’re just a result of trauma and the Master isn’t really responsible. But like, trauma cannot justify genocide. At best it might explain it.

I know a big factor is that Simm and Dhawan are hot (well, so I’ve been told in Simm’s case, he was never my type), and there’s nothing wrong with being into them for that reason. Do you think I watch Planet of Fire for the plot? But that doesn’t change the fact that the Master is an awful person. If you want them to be soft and idealised, you can write all the AUs you want, but always remember that’s not who they are in canon. Dhawan in the show is not the sweet, tender, respectful guy he is in Master x Reader fics (those are another thing I don’t understand, because I can’t think of anything less appealing than inserting myself into a fanfic scenario, but these days people are very into them so have fun I guess). Smoothing over the Master’s flaws for the sake of a better fantasy is one thing, but I often see that interpretation spill over into meta and other aspects of fandom.

It ties into the “Koschei Oakdown” view of the Master’s past and the shift from Best Enemies to Thoschei (which, yes, are just two different names for the same relationship, but there’s definitely been a corresponding shift in interpretation). People want the Master to be, deep down, a hurt, frightened, innocent little boy who just needs a hug. They’re not. Which isn’t to say they haven’t had their share of trauma and issues, but fundamentally the reason they do what they do is because they’re selfish. Even if they’re lashing out due to trauma, it’s selfishness that makes them inflict that pain on other people. They're an adult who is entirely responsible for their own actions.

And they’re often cruel in ways which aren’t fun. You can laugh at them killing people with plastic couches or trying to find the right pun before they murder someone, but not at the bruises on Lucy Saxon’s face. I don’t think you should separate the enjoyably evil aspects of their character from the messier parts. This is why I also don’t like people trying to sanitise them by headcanoning that they would be against various real life injustices. Yes, it might be nice to think that they would murder racists and abusers and misogynists, but, um, historically they’ve been those things. I could only see them going that route post-Missy and, well, so much for that.

Also, I know this is just people being shippy, but I think the fandom focuses too much on how the Master’s actions revolve around the Doctor and not enough on their underlying motivations/core beliefs. A lot of what the Master does is tied to the Doctor---be it trying to get their attention, hurt them, save them, impress them, change them, etc.---but not everything, and you still have to ask why the Doctor is so important to them, especially after all this time. I think there are some very interesting answers that people should explore more.

I guess a lot of my issues boil down to not wanting the Master to be forced into a certain mould just because it’s more appealing. I’d rather try to approach them on their own terms. They’re nasty and complicated and that’s part of what I find interesting about them.

Anyway, I think I’ve spent enough time hammering in my No Fun Allowed sign. There’s room for multiple interpretations, and for actively choosing to re-imagine them for your own purposes, so do what makes you happy!

[micahdotgov]

4 the ask game: your favorite dr who character ^_^

tysm for asking me vincie i am kissing you tenderly on the forehead mwah

i am doing this for my love koschei "the master" oakdown but anyone reading this already knew that

Sexuality Headcanon: gay. gay gay gay. just a massive faggot. he likes men!!! this is actually more or less canon but still. gay.

Gender Headcanon: time lords dont have genders baby! like not even nonbinary they just. don't have a gender. their sex changes so much with each regeneration that its pointless to retain one gender, so they're just time lords. (this is canon for eight!!! love that for them)

A ship I have with said character: thoschei until the day i die!!!! literally the blueprint from doomed tragic lovers, who else is giving us friends to lovers to enemies to friends to huh???

A BROTP I have with said character: kosch doesnt really have any friends he tends to backstab and murder everyone :/ however in an au where lucy didnt shoot him and he becomes the doctors prisoner companion i think it would be really funny if he became friends with donna

A NOTP I have with said character: um. i dont think he really gets shipped with anyone except theta??? so no one

A random headcanon: he chose harold saxon to be a tory because he researched which british political party was the most evil and saw it was them so he picked them to keep up his evil villain brand

General Opinion over said character: oh i love him. im literally devoted to him like thats my husband right there! tbh i dont think any fictional character will mean us much as he means to me lol cringe