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was thinking about the nine/jack/rose love triangle and about how, unlike most love triangles, it is actually three-sided. It's not a "two men in love with the same girl" triangle, it's a "two men are in love with each other and also the girl" triangle except it's not. because it has more vertices when you include mickey. which ends up looking like this:
it's a love pentagon. (side note: if you ship Martha x jack, mickey x the doctor and jack x mickey, it becomes a love pentagram) but let's make this more interesting. What if I included every love interest I could think of? Well. I present to you:
the great doctor who love web.
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Commission for my bff.
Heathers crossover?
#doctor who#doctor who fan art#artists on tumblr#the master#the master x the doctor#thoschei#threegado#3rd doctor#heathers
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hi im back w more silly posts ✊
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The vault arc was so funny bc like. Wdym the doctor and the master spent several years living together and it was like. Domestic. The Missy Chronicles implies that they were watching movies together. Same book he's teasing her about being reformed. He had a job and stayed on earth to look after his weird pet nemesis. Wdym that's not fanfic
#PLEASE send me twissy fic recs im dying out here#doctor who#thoschei#twissy#missy doctor who#12th doctor
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wlw thoschei call that the lesbian masterdoc
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Doctor dog and Master cat
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OKAY THIS IS GREAT BUT ALSO
the doctor *knows* we dont, but they do, and its revealed he knows at the end of the season, and when they reveal they know the master asks "what gave me away" and then the doctor says "because it was so, so easy to fall in love with you" and then i will die
New companion for the Doctor, but they are actually the Master in disguise. And for the whole season no one - including the audience - knows.
Companion is super nice and bubbly and just the way the Doctor likes them. But sometimes... just sometimes... they do something weird.
Like tapping a four-beat against the table and the Doctor stops, confused, but C tells them it's just the beat of the song they are just listening to - Doctor checks and it's actually true.
Sometimes they sort of flirt with the Doctor, but always in a way that could be interpreted as "just fun".
One time they try and stab the Doctor from behind and as an excuse they tell about another alien that can shapeshift. (And then there really is one around)
And similar stuff.
In the end the Doctor falls in love and can't explain why they feel such a deep connection to this person. They finally confess it and C breaks down because this is not how the Master planned their big reveal.
"You can't do this to me, Doctor!" they sob. "You ruined everything!"
Doc obviously has no idea what this means and just grabs the Master's head to kiss them. And this is when they feel the double pulse and suddenly everything makes sense and...
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tell me your favourite academy era fact/story/plot and the rock murder DOESN'T count
#thoschei#the master#best enemies#classic who#koschei#the master x the doctor#academy era thoschei#academy era#doctor who academy era#doctor who#theta signa#koschei oakdown
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Just a meta vent for all the bad takes I've seen about the Master, and especially Saxon Master (and still trying to get my ass to work on my thesis, but! it looks like I'm getting another article published so yey, ranting about the raccoon works!!!)
So yeah, this is me, ranting about why I think the reintroduction of the Master into NuWho was absolutely brilliant in s3 and what hot takes I've seen about the way it's been done on da Internet. I'm putting this under a cut, because, weeell, comparing Masters and Doctors, and even companions(!) turns into a kind of beauty paegant that has little to do with how well the author's thought got translated into the final product, AND I GET IT! People have favourites! That's fine! Yes, there's a level at which I just think Tennant and Simm look cute together*! But for full disclosure, they weren't my fisrt thoschei - I watched ALL the stuff I could from classic Who online and decided they're married when Threegado had to actively stop each other from shaking hands in The Sea Devils. Which is why it hurts me all the more when mah twinks get framed as they betrayal of the dynamic.
*But let's be honest, the aesthetical aspect is very much part of the course. Jon Pertwee and Roger Delgado might not exactly look the same, but the outfits do ooze that same 70s two ends of the queer spectrum feel, and this carried over to Anthony Ainley's harem and Paul McGann and Eric Roberts. Picking two white twinks with different shades of brown hair and eyes and rectangular vs. round faces was a conscious choice, as was picking a witchy looking woman in a victorian outfit to match a wizardy looking man in old time-y outfit, both with striking blue yes, as was juxtaposing a light blonde white woman in light outfit with a brown dark haired man in a dark outfit (why. Chibs WHY not go with Whittaker's beautiful natural hair colour unless to underline just how much the reyesque champion of light your Doctor is and cause confusion as to how regeneration works). But anyway.
I think the primary issue I take with complaints about Simm's Master is the idea that he was somehow a hard break from classic who Masters. And yes, RTD definitely went a much more unhinged manic energy way than the more controlled Original and Tremas regenerations, he admits it himself (all of this is very much influenced by me watching DW confidential). And yes, that's absolutely the case! But that's the natural result of making the Doctor, both the Eccleston and Tennant faces, much more unhinged and manic than in the classic era. Whether you frame it watsonianly as the result of the Time War, or doylistly as the result of the way television changed as a medium with the development of home cinema systems and general social shift after the end of cold war (that's me, btw, hello, McLuhan's ghost keeps possessing me), it's up to you, but the point is, if you want to maintain the two sides of the same coin energy, you have to match your earlier choices. So, no, in my opinion this wasn't a hard break from classicWho Masters, but rather cutting through all the aesthetic overgrowth to the essense of the character. Digging down to the core of the character, so to speak. Yes, Saxon Master acts in a misogyinistc manner, which wasn't there before. But that's the natural result of involving the Doctor in explicitly romantic relationships! The flip side of explicit heterosexual attraction is the othering of the "opposite" for lack of the better word sex and when your focus is in domination YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHATEVER POWER IMBALANCES THE SOCIETY PROVIDES YOU WITH!! And that extends to your aesthetics going more in the direction of a noir unhinged gangster villain than a queer coded Bond villain (srsly those of you who don't get where Simm!Master's quirks come from NEED to watch White Heat with James Cagney). Like, srsly, 90% of complaints about the way the Master has changed from classic Who to Saxon is the way politics have changed from cold war "my empire is better than yours but end of the day we're going to be courteous so we don't blow each other up" to post-politics "vote for me, I'm sexy and can make you sexy too" framework of the latest fin de siecle.
But this kind of cuts down to what it the essence and what is incidental. Politeness of classic Who can be traced back to noblesse oblige that was in place in 70s and 80s. But end of of the day, it was just an epiphenomenon of the main axis of power: class. In the merry world of identity politics, it's going to be gender and race. It's all about power relations, though.
Which sort of, very abstractly, relates to the handling of mental illness in NuWho Masters. Now, the yell of "you're insane!" as a general "dude, you're not making any sense :/" has been there in classic Who alright, but this has definitely become more pronounced in NuWho, starting from Saxon possibly because the idea politics involve some element of savoir vivrve has become dismissed as political in its own right rather than giving basic directions in unknown situations but hushhhh. I think the general framing of the Master as "just" needing to "hear the music" (yeah, I hate this line, is it a metaphor Steven? if so, of what?) or generally reconciling with the Doctor, because that's "what the Master really wants is to be loved" is very much rooted in the sort of... Frommian psychoanalysis of society. I would actually argue Fromm is very much present in spirit throughout all of the more refelctive aspects of Doctor Who, the Doctor themself is very much a Frommian hero, classic and new alike, which is great! Seriously, so many of Fromm's reflections cut so deep to the core of many social issues, and I think Escape from freedom has become particularly up-to-date recently, unfortunately. And I think this relates to the general trend in moral philosphy to go from ethical judgement to psyhcological understanding, which is absolutely great as far as realy life is concerned! Yes, if you actually want to prevent violent crimes instead of just reestabslishing social sense of justice through punishment, understanding where the idea to hurt somebody comes from is the way to go! Except... I don't think it's the best way to go when it comes to fiction. Like, fiction is all about putting people in situations. The situation kind of comes before the personality, if you get my drift. There can be aesthetical choices depending on whether you've made your character more decisive or indecisive, but end of the day, you chose to put the character in a situation where they find out their father has been murdered. This, I think, is the bedrock distinction between character relatability and resonance. Can we all relate to Hamlet? Not neccessarily, perhaps you relate to Laertes more. But can we all put ourselves in the situation where we find out something horrible and are called to act upon it? Yes.
Have I drifted off? Maybe.
But my point is, I would say the way in which RTD handled Simm!Master's "insanity" has less to do with any psychological diagnosis that the vague "insanity" of Ophelia, King Lear or Goethe's Gretchen. It's not something that can be "healed", it's the fundamental shine on you crazy diamond mephistophelian elan vital that in real world psychological therapy is redirected in ways that are constructive both for the individual and their surroundings. But in fiction? It's not to be healed. It's the essential driving force, The jester, who’s most lightly weighted. Man’s energies all too soon seek the level, He quickly desires unbroken slumber, So I gave him you to join the number, To move, and work, and play the devil.
Go home, Roxanne, you're drunk, go cry to another fic of the psyche mourning eros.
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imagine: you get your memories back after years of amnesia to find out your whole species is dead and earth doesn’t exist anymore. that the only thing left of your culture is your weird ex and his busted honda civic that barely even works that he stole from the government when he was 13. And he’s been taking members of an alien species for trips in his honda civic and they’re all like “woah it’s so cool” and you get upset because it’s NOT COOL it’s a honda civic, the turn signals don’t even work “wow it can go up hills” yeah OF COURSE IT CAN GO UP HILLS EVERY CAR COULD DO THAT. but they’ve never seen a car before so everything it does is the coolest thing ever. And your ex’s only tool is a fucking screwdriver which is somehow also cool to this dumbass alien species even though it’s a fucking screwdriver so you just look like an idiot screaming about how none of this is even cool it’s actually really shitty but your whole planet is gone so you can’t even prove it but also you’ve had a constant drumming sounding in your head since you were 10 slowly driving you insane. I would become evil too.
#This metaphor might have gotten away from me#Whatever#the master#thoschei#doctor who#tardis#the doctor#Companion: wow it can actually fully reverse and go backwards!#The master: *seething bc EVERY CAR CAN DO THAT*#I would be so mad if the only thing left of my culture was my ex and his terrible car#That he doesn’t even have a license to drive#Tensimm#J watches drwho#I really wanna draw this but I don’t have any artistic ability due to there being no apples in my brain#Plus your ex kinda wants to fuck the car#P-14a#10k#15k
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The Doctor and TARDIS are perfect for each other because they both have the same terrible taste in partners <3
#its an equal open relationship and they both get to have their morally dubious boytoys <3#love intentionally trying to make things look like a low effort edit. its about the flavour of a poorly edited text box#doctor who#dw spoilers#empire of death#tardis/sutekh#best enemies#thoschei#doctor/tardis#doctortardis#meme#memes#sutekh#dw#spoilers#the doctor#dr who#rtd2.0#doctor who meme#girl in the fireplace#the tardis#dw meme
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whew his taste in men 👍🏼
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#tbf dhawan!master’s should say 1 when I get there cause I’m killing everyone else in this thread but <3#fifteenth doctor#rogue#fifteenrogue#jack harkness#doctorjack#dhawan!master#fifteendhawan#thoschei#doctorriver#doctor who#dw memes#mios#500#1k#3k#5k
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“ap gwilliam was the worst prime minister” doctor. babe. i know why you don’t tell your companions everything at once, but you’re really gonna tell them a bald-faced lie like that. your ex murdered a tenth of earth’s population and immediately turned the entire planet into a hellscape, there is some steep competition here
#doctor who#new who#73 yards#15th doctor#doctor who spoilers#roger ap gwilliam#thoschei#simm!master#harold saxon#the sound of drums
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#doctor who#the devil’s chord#thoschei#doctor x master#i literally made a tumblr account just to post this#also who approved the name timothy drake?#who looked at that name and was like there has definitely never been a character named timothy drake before
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Retired Timelords 😃
#doctor who#fourteenth doctor#simm master#saxteen#thoschei#david tennant#john simm#my art#had this sketch lying around for a million years!!#what do you think they are arguing about
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