#mordred reads manga

[euniexenoblade]

Transfem trying to explain transfem siscon to a cis person

[brave-symphonia]

I love the distinction between the king and Arturia here. Mordred wanted to free his father of being king, because of what that did to Arturia. How it forced her to carry everything on her soldiers.

Mordred wanted to be king because he wanted to take that burden away from his father.

[autumnsorbet]

A key to Arthur past and the final battle and maybe Arthur's redemption arc that'll come towards the end of the manga

We're finally seeing someone from Arthur's past and I think the more people we see link to Arthur's past and from original King Arthur stories like more information on his parents Merlin eventually if she's in this manga and we don't get like another manga that's going to be another part to this franchise connected to the seven deadly sins and the four nights his sister/ half sister depending on what version you read

Morgana lafaye and Mordred his nephew or sometimes nephew / son depending on what version you read

So first thing about Sir jay

Sir Kay I don't believe he's a not a Pendragon

He's just Arthur adoptive brother

people often forget since it's a minor part that shows up at the beginning of King Arthur story's all the time even when it was introduced in the seven deadly sins manga it was a side chapter that people often forget about

That still follows the same story from King Arthur's stories is that sir kay father adopted Arthur

Because Arthur couldn't stay with King uther

I can never remember some of the reasons why but I know in some adaptations he couldn't stay with him due to his father causing conflict with some other rulers and them wanting to kill him and anyone of the Pendragon bloodline so it might have been the same even in this story

And he sent Arthur with his best night I believe or one of his best or loyal nights

And I believe it's at some point and some of these stories that I've read he usually passes away Arthur ends up on his own for a while working at a farm or a stable and always ends up meeting Merlin like that somehow and it could be the same in this adaptation

In nnt /4 knights

But we never really got a full backstory for Merlin and Arthur I'm hoping we'll get that in four nights

They truly do just need to make a spin-off manga where we just see Merlin and Arthur's past like we get to see Merlin when she was little and what she did after the war and in her search for chaos and how she met the Lady of the lake

It also would be nice to see like a full chapter 2 on what Arthur and Merlin's meeting was first like and why Merlin was even allowed to take Arthur away from home without anyone saying anything cuz

I'm sure there were other nights including the night that Arthur's father left him with know that he's the main heir to the kingdom so why would they just let Merlin who at that point was already a known criminal take Arthur away doesn't make sense and has never been clearly talked about

But I'm hoping that gets revealed in this manga at some point it probably won't happen to us the end where Arthur is defeated and Merlin or Lady of the lake go over Arthur's backstory kind of like they did with Merlin in the original series in the chaos art where we learn Arthur's backstory with Merlin his backstory with his adopted brother and how he became the king he is over time since not all the other characters slowly know his backstory and that's why we'll fully learn why he's been corrupted by chaos

And I think usings sir Kay is going to be linked to that too we're going to start to see more people linked to Arthur's past that are linked to him and

care about him in a sense like Kay, nanashi again at some point , well maybe even finally get to see his parents in the manga queen irgean (I believe on spelling her name wrong and I'm too lazy to look it up sorry ) she was a queen of another country and Arthur's father used magic to disguise himself as her dead husband who I believe he had killed in a

battle because he found her so beautiful and enchanting and he wanted to sleep with her and eventually they did end up sleeping together I think he revealed himself to her at some point and that's around the same time she ended up having Arthur eventually, and I believe that is what led to the

conflict where people wanted to kill him and he had to send Arthur away could be the same in this story as well where he was just being an a$$ but his mom wasn't the greatest person either she was kind of a a $$ as well from what I remembering when reading the King Arthur stories and even seen a few videos on his parents they were both basically just really tossed it self-centered people if I'm remembering right and it could be like this in the nnt /4 knighys

Story as well like I said I hope we get to learn about Arthur's past about his parents because I believe everything that's going to happen in the end if we do get certain reveals like the reveal to his half sister Morgana lafaye who he has more with on purpose or by force and depending on what you read when it comes to King Arthur stories if she does get introduced in this story and it's linked to the reason why Arthur corrupted himself with a

fragment of chaos and we learn that towards the end of this story and then have one big final boss fight with chaos or Morgan lafaye and Margaret if they show up it'll be linked to that cuz like I said I think if the more people we see from Arthur's past and linked to him like Merlin his adoptive brother

and even other people that are usually in King Arthur stories we're probably going to get closer to fighting Arthur and a reveal as to why he's been so corrupted and how he could possibly be saved or redeemed because let's be real he's either going to get killed off at the end of the story or get a redemption ark and maybe even still get killed off like other characters have

[icharchivist]

Wait, Vane is younger than Lancelot? I guess it makes sense, but still. Did not expect that. Also, WHAT? I thought Arthur and Mordred would be like 15, 16??? Sure, they occasionally act younger than that, but, wow. They truly are the babiest of babies. How dare Gbf keep putting them in awful situations >:(

HE ISSSSS

nonny i'm about to make your day, look at child Lancelot and Vane from the manga adaptation::::::

this is the most important image of all time, to me.

and if you look a little closely on the uncap of their summer Vane DOES look younger. Or maybe it's just bc i know he's younger.

i could SWEAR there's a story or two where Lancelot actually joke about how, at some point, Vane was smaller and cuter than him, and what the hell happened, while Vane pouts because he's so happy to be strong now to protect everyone.

i think i recall reading them becoming friends because Vane baked a cake for Lancelot on his birthday, but he was too shy to approach him, so Lancelot had to make a move to get his cake, and Vane mentioned he was just worried because Lancelot looked lonely. but i can't recall for the life of mine where i read it. did i imagine it. who knows.

AND YEAH THE ARTHUR AND MORDRED THING. Honestly i had them in my mind at 15, i keep forgetting. Nowadays they're 14 (bc currently the Dragon Knights saga have been going on for one year in game time), but yeah, they're just kids!! they're little boys!!! just babies!!! who are going through hell like holy shit kids shouldn't have that many death experience before they turn 14 granblue what tHE FUCK.

so yeah. granblue's ages huh!

[nasuversekinkmeme]

Weekly Roundups: Prompts

Kara no Kyoukai

Tsukihime

Everyone is a Saberface? Wrong. Saber is a Kohakuface. Chaos ensues.

Fate/Stay Night

In some early versions of Arthurian Myth, Mordred just straight up wins…and marries Guinevere to legitimize their rule. That’s obviously multiple flavors of absurd in PHH, but hey, so’s most of the actual plot of FGO. Give me Guin and Mo romance and/or fucking, in any situation. Maybe a sweet if kinda messed-up second love at Chaldea, or a dark NTR plot in a flashback, or the first mistaken for the second by the Knights. (“Guin is a Rinface” preferred but not required.)

Yariyumi has gone on a few pool dates before, I would like them to go on another, please.

It turns out that Guinevere is physically identical to Aoi Tohsaka, what does Rin have to say about it?

Archer and Sitonai spend a lot of time together, archer carries her to her room when she falls asleep, they hold hands when walking just cause. Then, it surges a rumor that Archer is dating Sitonai, cue to archer getting bad looks and then having to explain to all of Chaldea that they're brother and sister

Finding that this new Knight Mordred, is in actuality her own Son with Morgan. Saber reflects on the similarities between their origins as the results of an affair (If Artoria even is the result of an affair in the Fate universe anyway) and on how right now in Camelot an affair is going on between her wife and her best Knight even as she speaks. I don't have any idea where this would lead her, I just always thought it was interesting just how commonly affairs come up in Arthurian myth.

Smut, y'know maybe a good majority of the carnage in heaven's feel cold've been prevented if someone got sakura a hitachi magic wand & a subscription to playgirl.

Fate/Extra

one of the other servants (doesn't matter who) sees BB post-slutification and trains her into a proper young lady.

Based on recent events let's get some toxic Yuri up in this bitch and let Kiara fuck Taiga

After the latest reveal in the Seraph manga I want to see Kiara being ripped apart by Unlimited Lost Works.

BB recovers from all the sluttification and realizes she's into it

Emiya Alter sees Jaguar Warrior for the first time and goes through a trauma-induced panic. Only his teacher can bring him back to his senses

BB in complete disgust of the amount of bimbofication and brain drain erotica her master has been reading about her, she just fucking kills Ritsuka because she decides humanity isn't worth salvation anymore

Prillya:

Begging for some Prillya fluff since my partner and I just caught up with the series

Fate/Apocrypha

Smut, I feel we need more bi rep so Sieg gets double teamed my Astolfo and Jeanne. Bonus for strap

Happily asexual Astolfo. Oh sure, they still love making their partners feel good during sex and all that! But that's what they get out of it - making their partners feel good.

FGO

rejoice gudako , for after 5 years of waiting ,you finally have gyaru lancelot!

Yknow how Huang Feihus kids only pop out when he's fighting? What if during one such fight his kids, instead of helping, tell Guda and/or other servants how strong, dependable, and also very very single their dad is

Gender is a game. Astolfo chose not to play, Sexshifting!Ritsuka is winning handily, and Mordred is losing. Badly. Mordred having a complex and adversarial relationship with gender as a concept, experiencing deep envy for, say, both Extremely Female Mata Hari and Extremely Male Fergus and not being at all able to process why. Maybe finally bonding with Artoria over similar experiences.

A male servant walks in on Artemis bathing. Artemis responds with the customary feminisation spell to whoever saw her naked. Problem is, said Servant was doing a stream on Servant-tube when he accidentally walks in, and the spell effects the viewers of that stream, leading to something like half of Chaldea's male heroes getting sex swapped.

Smut, guro, Xiang Yu and Yu Meiren going at it but Xiang Yu being a horse means its really tearing Meiren apart. Good thing her regen ability means she enjoys it!

the super crown in chaldea , what chaos will ensue?

Unfortunately as part of the single wives club, Galatea is constantly hit on by those who he think she'll be easy. Fortunately, Galatea is ace and instead starts infodumping on shoes, clothing, and how lovely her also ace husband is instead

Asclepius getting fucked in the butt so hard call that Assclapius

Everyone talks about overworking the farming supports. Nobody ever talks about overworking the farming payload. I'd like a thing about the big meta farming servants, like Space Ishtar or Edmond Dantes or Zerkerlot, just being put through the wringer.

Smut, ntr, Netorare where castoria peek as Master has a threesome with Morgan and Tonelico, and can't herself but masturbate while crying desiring to be in their place, even better if Morgan notices it and makes sure to show her how better Master feels when having sex with her.

lets give ritsuka fujimaru a reality marble and see what their inner world looks like

A master summons Mata Hari for the Holy Grail War and decides to ditch the whole thing and run away with her instead. Fluffy or angsty and either oc master or canon one up to the writer

it's the day after the biggest rager Chaldea has thrown so far . gudako wakes up in Izou's bed with a hangover that makes BB look pleasant. after a shower & change of clothes , she & izou stagger to the cafeteria for breakfast. turns out not only did goredolf get past 2nd base with MHXX , their party took place during a grail war in fuyuki city. and in the hectic scramble to flee the cops because they trashed this big-ass mansion , they stole that war's saber class servant and their master.

someone gets Columbus's valentines gift, looks him dead in the eye, and drops it in the trash without breaking eye contact.

oberon: his face when he succ all of Britain

Kadoc starts to get feelings for Ritsuka. The problem is that Kadoc knows that Ritsuka won’t feel the same. He wrong.

Smut, Ibuki getting her tits fucked, a lot. If that's cool.

Smut, incest, Since morgan has appeared servants have been keeping an eye on artoria due to some comments artoria makes from time to time, yet she insists that she will not fuck her sister(again) She ends up fucking her sister, merlin involvement is up to the author

blackbeard of all people has been deemed trustworthy enough to be the guard of gudako's porn stash when there's an inspection.

Smut, Morgan gets Railed by Mash and Habenyan. Thats it that's the prompt.

Smut, i need morgan and oberon to have fucked up insane hatesex. hopefully with copious amount of violence and pain. it's fine if one of them dies btw.

I am in desperate need of Artoria and Mordred sitting down and talking things out, reaching an understanding and just… finally coming to terms with each other. Lord knows the actual game writers wont do it at this point…

On the slight chance it's true: Newly summoned Yoshinaka doesn't understand his wife's new hobby but tries his best to support it

Smut, Tonelico desperately tries to hold the moans back when they fuck but when Mash is on top she edges her to DEATH just to be able to hear her screaming her name

Smut, prompt for og Moriarty throwing out his back and Sherlock having to fix him up but instead of using baritsu Sherlock blows his already blown back back into shape. bonus if it somehow works.

Smut, since it is nerofest, the ultra hard gilgamesh exhibition, but instead of fighting him…. enkidu rails gilgamesh SENSELESS.

Smut, There are still 20 days before the fillathon. You know how Euryale is a great counter to Gawain’s boss fight in Camelot? You know how Bhargest is kinda a useless bisexual? Let’s have Euryale domming the absolute hell out of both “Gawains,” much to the relief of both.

Smut, incest, Arjuna and Karna making love. Holding hands, going nice and gentle, kissing battle scars, gazing longingly into each other's eyes... You get the idea. Let them be happy together.

Hello, this is my first time doing this, but how about Kintoki getting hypnotized by a male master? Especially if a little bit of muscle worship is added? Thanks!

Morgan can't simply show her lily form like a normal person. So she makes all saber faces wear tonelico's clothes and it's her husband's/wife's job to choose the correct one

Feet appreciation but it's Guda tearing up over the fact Sumner Cas got 10 toes

Baobhan's partner thinking that she has a foot fetish and so gets a pedicure/puts effort into their feet care. Which is great but - Baobhan doesn't have a foot fetish, but it's too awkward for her to explain the truth. Bonus if they aren't actually together and the other person is trying to seduce Bao with it

Chaldea enters civil war as the lilys and their adult versions begin fighting(Ex: Jeanne, Gil, Saber, Cu, Medea, Medusa, Archer, Draco, Morgan, Maou Nobu)

Unsanitary, Politely asking for male omorashi content please, I have been starved recently

In the Water Margin club (that totally exists cuz they all wanted it and not because Pretender Lizzy cried until they all relented) the other two members are suprised to hear from Lizzy that Li Kui has been summoned. Suprise turns to confusion, however, as Darius walks in, just as confused and wearing what seems to be a glued on beard

FGO 2

Guda summons Tonelico only to not know who she is as they never actually met, considering her some kind of Castoria clone and treating her as such. Both Castoria and Morgan are highly amused

In addition to her impressive strength Baobhan Sith also has Magic Resistance rank EX, meaning that ordinary magecraft can’t even touch her!

Morgan succeeded in capturing and convincing Castoria to join her, naming her the new Tam Lin Mordred. Unfortunately, they are unable to escape their ultimate fates as Mordred brings down Camelot once again

Smut, Guda is horny and gropes castoria, this would be totally fine, if the one he groped was actually castoria. Cue to an extremely angry Tonelico quickly changing into her Morgan form and punishing her Husband (Explicit, Femdom, Sadistic Morgan)

castoria and oberon and morgan get a good view of how guda is when not in lostbelts or singularites with their fairy eyes after being summoned: horny. so fucking horny. all the time about the weirdest things?? about like every of age servant in chaldea and even some of the staff, particularly goredolf. is this some kind of defense mechanism? dont think about everyone youve either watched die or personally killed think about everyone you love and how much you want to fuck them?

Smut, In the lead up to the last fight with Flauros, Jing Ke and Boudicca say words to the effect of “let’s get drinks after this.” Drunken, glad-to-be-“alive” sex surely ensued.

Smut, Selfcest. Medea Lily angrily tops her older self, who is infuriatingly calm about it.

i feel like mephistopheles and leonardo da vinci would make a sexy mechanical waifu doll out of bombs to prank blackbeard at least once. just some absolutely looney tunes shit.

Erice and Tamamo have some sister talk that ends with Erice trying to kill tama for talking shit about her mom

Any

All of the Saberfaces having a BATTLE TO THE DEATH. Only one Saberface wins, everyone else dies

Reason why there is so much saberfaces: Igraine is a time traveler and is the absent mother or father of all them, she also had sex with the moon once, the result was Arcueid.

something not safe for work, in the sense that it's about characters breaking every OSHA regulation known to god and man.

The Mod of the kinkmeme gets a hug from their favorite Nasuverse servant, whoever that is! (mod note: just use any servant you've got my blessign)

"Whelp, here it is. Dunno why you came all this way for it, though. Totally useless, what with all the holes. 'Course, suppose it wouldn't be the Holey Grail if it didn't have them!... what's with the face?"

Anybody at all, from anything Nasuverse: "YOU'RE TOO LATE, HOMOPHOBES, I'M FORKLIFT CERTIFIED!"

[dianight]

You know, I've been thinking. About trans women, mostly.

I was just going to delete this blog but it was like, a bit unfair right? When one of my friends or even just an acquaintance that I've talked to a few times just goes and disappears, it can be a bit stressful when you realize. Orders of magnitude worse when it's a trans woman.

So I was thinking about a bunch of stuff. It started with Yamato from One Piece of all things. I don't remember if it was fanart or he was mentioned on some thread or something. But it was on my mind, like a metaphorical seed if you will.

Then I was reading Shonen Abyss and this panel came up. It's very minor, just a flashback from an earlier chapter:

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And it was like. How typical. We have some unhinged dude that's done some terrible stuff (let's ignore how Gen is also a victim too for now) and how can we show the readers that he's lost it? Well he wants to be a woman, because that's bad I guess.

There's way more I could say about it, how it follows a similar homophobic sentiment that ends up being (trans)misogynistic, how Lukako from Steins;Gate goes through something similar and such. But. It's not quite the point that's been on my mind.

Because you see. With Yamato still there (faintly) a thought appeared in my head. On the Wano arc we have both Yamato and Kiku (in order):

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Yamato is a trans man and Kiku a trans woman. Textually it's very clear. [The spanish fandom wiki misgenders Yamato but not Kiku, not relevant but odd] And somehow both of them still look like women.

Considering the okamas and the whole Sanji being extremely transmisogynistic, I was glad that Yamato and Kiku were handled much better, both in universe and out of it. Although in different ways. So different actually that it made me look closely at those differences.

The point is this, you see: why does Yamato, while clearly looking like a woman, get to declare himself a man and be treated with respect (<- this is a good thing, it's a rethorical question) while Kiku, clearly looking like a woman, gets to declare herself a woman and be treated with respect? (<- this is not worded as well as I'd like in english)

Or in other words, can we picture the reversed situation? Does Yamato, while clearly looking like a man, get to declare himself a man and be treated with respect? I say yes, with absolute confidence. BUT. Does Kiku, while clearly looking like a man, get to declare herself a woman and be treated with respect? I say maybe, maybe in universe. But absolutely not outside of it.

Because this bothered me a bit I tried to remember if I've ever seen that case, a (person who looks like a) man saying that she's a woman and not only being believed, but not treated as something bad and/or a joke. And I could not come up with any examples.

Then again, I mostly read manga so my range is biased and limited. But I could actually come up with a couple examples of the opposite, a (person who looks like a) woman saying that he's a man and actually being respected and believed: Mordred (fate)[arguably Saber too] and Togata (fire punch).

Is it too cynical to think that if some series had a man (pictured with a beard, in masculine clothes) say that she's a woman, she's never (<- some day, perhaps) going to be treated seriously? Not a gnc person, not a genderfluid person, not a manly man that happens to wear dresses, not some caricature or mockery. Some dude declares "I am a woman" and the narrative, the characters, the author and the audience collectively say "ok" (<- genuine).

It's like. I can't see it happening. And obviously I don't mention real life situations because in real life you get ostracized if you are a trans woman, especially if you happen to look like a man.

Because you see, I was going to just delete this account. I'm tired after all the bans, all the harassment (thank fuck no one follows me on this one), all the hate. You can't be a trans woman in real life, and online is real.

But the thing that connects those two points: there's no other platform where I've ever seen overwhelming support for pretransition women except for tumblr. Literally nowhere else. So I guess I'll stay because it's a positive influence, for now.

[strangefellows]

oh if you want servants specifically though then Karna, Da Vinci, Tristan, David, Mordred, Ushiwakamaru, Jeanne (all flavors), Diarmuid, Nursery Rhyme, Frankenstein, and Mandricardo

HAHAHAHA YES....

First impression

Karna: Oh! More Indian servants! He's pretty.

Da Vinci: ARFHEDGLFAGGAGA MONA LISA DA VINCI? OH MY GOD FATE I LOVE THIS SHIT

Tristan: Oh, Tristan and Isolde guy, I know him-- wait what the fuck (spoken bc Camelot)

David: HKJDGAGAG OH GOD DAVID'S A FLIRTY TWINK /wheezes in jewish

Mordred: I....I love....what a design....what a personality....

Ushiwakamaru: After having flashbacks to Shishiwakamaru in YYH, I was like oh...horse girl!

Jeanne: Oh! Joan of Arc, hello girl you're pretty!

Jalter: EXCUSE ME WHAT IS THIS? WHAT IS SHE BASED ON-- OH DAMN THAT FUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Diarmuid: Oh another Irish hero? Who are you? [looks him up] ...oh your poor bastard.

Nursery Rhyme: LOUD SUSTAINED BABEYYYYY

Frankenstein: Oh, gorl? OH, CUTE.

Mandricardo: Who is this sad lump of self-deprecation and why is he our friend, also what the fuck is Orlando Furioso?

Impression now

Karna: I kinda love him? He's a delight and so off kilter sometimes it's sweet, he's so sincere too, what a guy.

Da Vinci: Literally the best wine aunt a protagonist could have, I miss her, but also babyvinci is adorable.

Tristan: What a moron (affectionate). He's cute, though, I love his hair, what pretty hair.

David: LMAO TWINKLORD, but also boyyyy are you okay buddy? How's it been since Temple, you good?

Mordred: PRINCE OF MY HEART, THE BEST KNIGHT, MY FAVORITE, ABSOLUTELY MY TYPE, WHAT A BEST BOY, A WONDERFUL PERFECT SABER, COME HOME RIGHT NOW I BEG OF YOU I may not need more Sabers but I desperately want you in my Chaldea :(

Ushiwakamaru: WE STAN A FUCKING QUEEN, I LOVE HER SO MUCH, ONE OF MY FAVORITE RIDERS, KICK ASS TAKE NAMES BLOW DEMETER INTO THE SUN I LOVE YOU

Jeanne: She's...pretty! And can be funny! I don't have too many strong opinions about Ruler Jeanne but I'm sure when I finish Apocrypha I'll have more.

Jalter: I FUCKING LOVE HER SO MUCH SHE'S A TERRIBLE WEEB ASS TSUNDERE BRAT WHO HAS SO MUCH JUSTIFIED TRAUMA OVER HER HISTORICAL FATE AND OH MY GOD WHAT A GIRL, WHAT AN AVENGER, BEST PEFECT WONDERFUL.

Diarmuid: Oh, you poor sweet bastard, you deserved so much better. I like Cu better in regards to Irish Lancers, but this poor man needs a vacation. I like him.

Nursery Rhyme: BABEY X100, precious angel, darling girl.

Frankenstein: DAUGHTER!!! Tho again, need to finish Apocrypha, but as I do know Caules from Case Files, I'm glad he's her Master, he's a good kid.

Mandricardo: SOBBING UNCONTROLLABLY, MY FRIEND!!! MY FRIEND!!! SWEET NERVOUS ANXIOUS BOY!!! I LOVE YOU I AM GOING TO READ FURIOSO SOMEDAY.

Favorite moment

Karna: Him and Jinako's interactions, always. Him and Jinako in LB4. Him vs Godjuna in LB4. Him being an absolute dingus in events, what a sweet no braincells boy.

Da Vinci: Probably her dramatics in Camelot, but also she's just really great in general, what a gal.

Tristan: His fight with Barghest in the beginning of LB6 was absolutely fucking gold, that was the coolest goddamn shit.

David: Specifically his ultra hardcore amazing finale/death scene in the Turas Realta manga Okeanos chapter, good god.

Mordred: So far, his part in LB3 was absolutely incredible and I just love him in general, but I think what's coming when I finish Apocrypha is going to blow all of it out of the water easily.

Ushiwakamaru: Her confrontation with Gorgon in Babylonia, specifically the anime version where it adds the little nursery rhyme Ritsuka taught her as she goes down and it made me sob like a little girl, but also the scene where Ritsuka tells her about the rhyme in the first place, that just struck me into my SOUL.

Jeanne: Again, I'll have smth definitive in Apocrypha, but right now her big damn heroes in Temple made me cry.

Jalter: Everything??? But no, her antics in Shinjuku were absolutely delightful, as was everything about the Serva*Fes Hawaii event even if I didn't manage to finish it bc it was my first event in the game.

Diarmuid: His helping Team Artoria against Gilles was really good in Zero, but oof ow ouch as well.

Nursery Rhyme: Her entire storyline in Extra destroyed me.

Frankenstein: Another "get back to me after Apocrypha", unfortunately, she's not very in focus in FGO.

Mandricardo: REVE DE DURENDEL!!! GOD THAT FUCKING CG, THAT SPEECH, I LOVE YOU MY SON MY BOY MY FRIEND OH MY GOD

Idea for a story

Karna: Listen the Mahabharata completely on its own sounds absolutely fucking insane I want to know more about Fate's version of eents.

Da Vinci: Da Vinci talk to me about your life talk to me about the Borgias, I'm going to throw the Ezio AC Trilogy at your head until you tell me your version of all of that stuff.

Tristan: Again, my kingdom for KOTR back when they were alive shenanigans, what was that fucking castle LIKE.

David: COME TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR SON DAVID, LET'S BOND OVER BEING SAD ABOUT SOLOMON

Mordred: See Tristan's entry, but also just...I want to explore his relationship with his siblings more, Gawain and Gareth etc.

Ushiwakamaru: We've pretty well explored her backstory, so let's have some fun Chaldea shenanigans!

Jeanne: I don't have very many ideas here >>

Jalter: I want her to interact with more Servants, I want her to interact with the other Avengers, I want her to interact with everyone, I love her lots.

Diarmuid: GET THIS MAN A BEACH VACATION STAT

Nursery Rhyme: Her dialogues for other people + other people's at her is so fascinating, I want to see what she gets up to daily in Chaldea. Also an Alice in Wonderland pastiche with other Servants as the characters would be fucking rad.

Frankenstein: Let this girl TALK for five minutes please. Let her have a chance to be more like the monster in the book and vocalize her trauma and desires beyond grunts and noises.

Mandricardo: Just good times with our friend, please. Though he deserves to talk to the Paladins and have a crisis or three.

Unpopular opinion

Karna: I don't have enough opinions ON him XD

Da Vinci: IDK man I just love her a lot. ARE there unpopular opinions?

Tristan: Little bitch boy (affectionate) but IDK again I don't know FGO fandom as well.

David: I do feel sorry for him given the Son situation but also I'm going to toss him off a cliff for his shit in Okeanos.

Mordred: NOOOO IDEA LOL

Ushiwakamaru: I like her normal outfit just fine, though I also like the edited less revealing ones too. She looks fine yall.

Jeanne: ....she's kinda boring, sorry XDDDD

Jalter: I like her more as a tsundere weirdo friend of ours than I did as the EVIL ANGRY VILLAIN in Orleans

Diarmuid: None here! He's a good boy. OH WAIT I don't think his comedy duo shenanigans with Fionn are funny, Fionn needs to leave him alone.

Nursery Rhyme: shrug emoji

Frankenstein: uhhhhhhhh

Mandricardo: nope!

Favorite relationship

Karna: Him and Jinako fucks me up so hard, I'm so glad she has Karna.

Da Vinci: Da Vinci and Roman were adorable, wine aunt and neurotic dad. I also love her relationships with Gordy and Sherlock.

Tristan: The KOTR Idiot Trio is delightful. Look at these idiots, no braincells, all stupid, what a bunch of dorks.

David: I love me some complicated father/son relationships!

Mordred: See above lmfao. Artoria and Mordred Good, but also OH MY GOD HIM AND KAIRI ????? KAIRI DAD MODE?????

Ushiwakamaru: Her and Benkei is sweet NGL.

Jeanne: So far in Apocrypha her and Sieg are cute friends.

Jalter: Jalter and Salter should kiss.

Diarmuid: His mutual respectful admiration with Artoria makes me smile every time, not gonna lie.

Nursery Rhyme: Her and Alice, I WEEP. But her and the other littles in Chaldea are always precious.

Frankenstein: Her and Caules, her and Mordred.

Mandricardo: MY FRIEND MY FRIEND MY FRIEND [yells] but also GOD I want to see him interact with Roland and the other Paladins.

Favorite headcanon

Karna: I don't have any real headcanons for him...Jinako taught him to play very simple video games. He likes Candy Crush.

Da Vinci: Well she's obviously transfemme. But like, it's not even a headcanon so much, she was SO probably fucking half of Florence way back when.

Tristan: Not sure about headcanons! But he's definitely somehow the sluttiest of the KOTR Idiot Trio.

David: Local man cries in his room for an hour after Temple. Local man also possibly has a physical fight with Ozy on religious grounds at some point too. I saw him fucking roast Ozy in a fic once and it was glorious.

Mordred: He's 100% transmasc and only uses she/her still because he doesn't quite get he can just....not use those anymore. He and Caenis bond over similar situations. He has a little scar on his face.

Ushiwakamaru: Not entirely ABOUT her, but for my Fujimaru, she told Ushiwaka her late little brother used to love her and sing that rhyme, and that bit from the anime def happened.

Jeanne: I don't really have many?

Jalter: She and my Fujimaru fucked at least once, after Shinjuku. She has burn scars all over her body.

Diarmuid: Poor boy might actually be a very repressed gay, or at least very very asexual. Save him.

Nursery Rhyme: The entirety of Chaldea unanimously loves her, and she's a comfort to the human staff sometimes, who she visits and sits with to help them get some mental relief sometimes.

Frankenstein: One of the less shy staff members is teaching her and anyone who wants to learn ASL! Yay, ease of communication!

Mandricardo: Man's a Saracen he's darker than the game makes him look. You wouldn't know it to look at him but he can hold his liquor extremely well and can drink most people under the table.

[fluffypotatey]

I don’t know whose who, but Shadowpeach but it’s like the ending of Nimona and calming down a “huge monster.” Also, the fact JTTW Macky is a cannibal. Insane. Supposedly also, six ears can’t reach enlightenment hmm. Unlike manga adaptations to anime, I tend to think of Lmk as less reliant on “the source material” so I don’t get why some people get so huffy about “the book” it’s more like a regular Lego show with a Jttw paint coat over it. Like any other series that has thousands of different adaptations on it.

think of it like Arthurian legends (i hope you understand Arthurian legends bc this is the best example i can think of): the story is old and has many variations depending on the time period and regions, but the core of the story, the bare bones, typically stay the same.

Arthur is King of Camelot, he is married to Guinevere, Guinevere has some kind of affair with Lancelot, Merlin is a powerful wizard and advisor of some sort to Arthur, Arthur is killed by Mordred at the battle of Camlaan and is said to return when “Albion” needs him most

sometimes the Arthurian adaptations try to uphold the legends or the idea/fantasy of the legends (depending on which concept it focused on more can show where an adaptation falls flat) and sometimes adaptations are created to breakdown the expected narrative the audience already knows about the legends. it can even be a callback to older themes or characteristics that modern adaptations have forgotten or ignored—the list goes on.

with the jttw story and story adaptations the main aspect of it or the core is “an allegorical journey of human life” and “growth and change and redemption is possible even for the most bloodthirsty or violent”

lmk sort of fits into this happy medium of “we know this story has been told so many times and adapted in so many ways. we don’t mean to adapt it as it is, but rather as a reference for a future where the jttw was real and is a part of history as much as legend.” but they also play on the idea that not everything told/written in the legend is completely accurate since it was documented by observers or witnesses

to be honest, i think the reason why some fans look back at the source material is because lmk still leaves us with wholes of the complete story. JTTW is the complete story and our primary point of reference. it is an important piece of the puzzle, but it’s not everything. like you said, lmk isn’t an honest adaptation nor does it try to be, which is fine and works for its story honestly

however, i still don’t think that means we should throw the whole jttw to the side and just focus on the show. so many themes and plot lines are heavily influenced by the jttw story and themes. there’s also the cultural impact and influence that you can get from reading or just see how much jttw is tied to a lot of Chinese and Asian culture and storytelling. because it’s not just about the legend itself but what the legend means for a lot of Asian cultures. how it’s themes and plot lines touch that audience and how it influences lmk’s own narrative

[hirazuki]

HOOOUGH, I haven't actually checked Heaven's Feel out yet mostly because I know how rough that one is and I know what happens to my favorites (cough Gil and Cu cough) and I gotta prepare for that. But the Camelot movies are GREAT - noticeably a bit different from the actual game chapter (unlike Babylonia), but still super fun, Lancelot vs Agravain was INSANE. Bedivere tho, man....man...........

As for Solomon, haha, I can't watch that one, playing the story once was enough I'm not masochistic enough to do that again lmao. But I've heard it's FANTASTIC.

I....really do want to watch Prisma Illya tbh, if only because Kid Gil, I have priorities! But I read enough of the manga to know it's actually really good ignoring the, uh, awkward bits. And I've watched an LP of Extra, but not the anime yet, if just because I prefer the female protagonist XD I should though, because it's got a couple of my favorite Servants in it and more content of your favs is always good.

BUT YEAH FATE HURTS A LOT, A LOT OF THE TIME, but the highs are enough to make the pain worth it. I'd ask who your favorite characters are but I'm also pretty sure I know at least one, who we share XD Besides His Goldiness, though, is there anyone else you like?

AHAHA yeah, it's rough, it's literally just pain. Beautifully animated pain, though! Watching all three in a row back to back was a MISTAKE, do not do that -- be kind to yourself; take breaks XD

I really enjoyed the Camelot movies! Oh that's good to know, I knew that the Babylonia chapter was pretty in line with the game, but didn't know anything about this one. What are the main differences?

Yeah, Prisma Illya isn't really my thing in terms of the series itself (I've never been into the magical girl genre) so the movies initially flew under my radar, but while I was looking around to see what Fate stuff I missed, I noticed they look like they're in a completely different style from the Prisma Illya series itself? Like more in line with UBW, Zero, etc. I've never checked out the manga so barely know anything about the plot, but I'm expecting, you know, hurt. As usual :D

I liked the Extra anime! It's very different in style from pretty much everything else I've watched in the franchise. I think the best way I could describe it is the narration/view point is disjointed the way gothic literature is, instead of being like a straightforward adventure or an epic, which I think a lot of people found jarring and ended up not really vibing with it. I thought the presentation really fit well with the content, though, it just took a minute to get used to it.

Haha, yup, I do love Gil! My top fave is Kojiro, though, who sadly doesn't feature nearly as much as like. anyone else T____T I take whatever crumbs I can get, even a measly 1.3 second appearance just to fucking die Which is one of the reasons I really liked the cooking spin off! He was happy! He got to eat sandwiches! XD (Carnival Phantasm was also really good for getting some cute, non-heartbreaking content for him <3)

I also really like Cu, Karna, Alexander, Vlad, and Mordred. For non-Servants, my faves are Waver and Shishigou.

[thecoolerliauditore]

Anyway, here's a list of anime tomboys I like + other girls with funny genders some of whom aren't girls.

this isn't a list of "good representation" btw they're just characters who spoke to me specifically, some of these you could argue are much more problematic than OHSHC.

Radical Edward from Cowboy Bebop! Very much as standard as your energetic young tomboy archetype goes. Her gender doesn't really get acknowledged all that much and neither does her nonconformity, she just gets to be Ed -- which is great!

Ranma from Ranma! A martial artist who has the very weirdly specific curse of changing gender everytime he touches water. Ranma insists he is a guy, especially when he's in his "girl form", but will take advantage of the way people treat him differently to get what he wants.

the above sequence of dialogue is from an episode where ranma hits his head and suddenly switches to wanting to be a girl, which disturbs his love interest Akane greatly, just to give you an idea of the way this show uses gender for comedic effect and perhaps accidentally(?) creating a very compelling narrative about gender fluidity and dysphoria in the process.

Akane from Ranma! Akane is described as being a "violent tomboy" and much of the humour surrounding her is based on her complete hopelessness at feminine skills like cooking.

She claims to hate all men -- the manga frames this as due to an unrequited crush, however her being constantly faulted for not doing womanhood as well as her peers I saw as a much more poignant factor but that's just me though. Ranma's genderbending curse challenges her worldview as she's forced to do a 180 on her opinion of him upon "discovering" that Ranma is a man.

Probably the one that needs the least introduction, Haruka or Sailor Uranus from Sailor Moon! An athletic senior sailor scout, the inner senshi mistake her for a handsome young man upon their first meeting and immediately start fighting over her, which she finds amusing.

Haruka is also famously in a relationship with her fellow scout Sailor Neptune, which 4kids attempted to censor by making them ""cousins""

'"cousins""

Utena Tenjou from Revolutionary Girl Utena! THE GOAT! Utena is a girl who was rescued as a child by a prince and, inspired by his nobility, swears to become a prince herself. She wears a male student uniform to honour him, and because she "likes it".

There's much more to be said about Utena and how her story explores gender non-conformity, but also the system of gender roles itself including the "princely" one Utena has chosen to embody. Really required reading when talking about anime and feminism, cannot overstate how much I love Utena and the other two anime that I consider my favourites.

And while I do like the anime much more and have complicated feelings about it, I do think it's worth mentioning Utena's much more androgynous movie design.

Mordred from the Fate series!

Possibly the most discourse-y pick on here in terms of canonical gender identity, Mordred hates being referred to as a "girl" and will even threaten people with violence when they do so. Descriptions of Mordred, such as those in FGO, seem to favour forgoing referring to Mordred with any set of pronouns, then "he/him", then "she/her".

Mordred's very conception of gender seems to be unique, showing no real insecurity over feminine clothing or exposing skin, and very much stern in a belief that women cannot be "kings", a role which Mordred was born and groomed into valuing above all else. This is a point of irony, as Mordred's estranged "father", King Arthur, is a woman in this timeline and Mordred is ignorant of this.

Mordred's insistence on being a man despite presenting female is somewhat reminiscent of Ranma. It should be noted that Mordred is somewhat fetishized as well, being a "gacha waifu" at the end of the day.

(I hate these outfits so fucking much btw)

Sarasa from Basara! The twin sister of a "chosen one", Sarasa chooses to impersonate her brother after he dies in order to keep her people from losing hope, and struggles with maintaining the high level of traditional masculine competence expected of her brother while being barred from the training he received all his life, simply because she was born a girl.

I've only read volume 1 so far so I can't say too much but so far I've been really enjoying this one. Sarasa even points out something that is often pointed out in these crossdressing storylines -- that it really is not that easy to pass, but it's framed as her realisation that the villagers *want* to believe their chosen one is still alive, and are actively choosing to believe her lie.

Casca from Berserk! Narrowly saved from rape and trafficking at a very young age, Casca is very aware of the vulnerability that comes with being a woman in her society, thinks the world of her friend and captain general who rescued her -- like Utena, she aspires to be like her princely saviour, eventually becoming so skilled with the blade that she becomes known as his right hand.

Casca expresses a lot of sentiments similar to Haruhi, albeit much more aware and offput by men who see her as a token.

She is, however, a Berserk character, so make of that what you will. (Berserk is really good but. by god.)

Asuka from Evangelion. This one doesn't really belong on here but I did feel like mentioning this scene and the fact that I think more people should headcanon her as an egg. He would've been a guy in like 10 years trust me.

what’s your thoughts on ouran? you mentioned you had a love / hate relationship with it and i think that would be interesting to hear

Oh god post that usually would be reserved for my sideblog incoming. Heads up this one might get uncomfortable, heed the tags. LONG POST.

TL;DR: it's a fun show that's neck deep in the misogyny sauce

I had the true ouran experience of watching it when I was 12 and thinking it was really funny but ultimately finished the show feeling mildly disappointed as well as being Very put off by one specific episode.

As a 12 year old I didn't really have the words to explain why but over the years I thought back to ouran again and again and the more I thought about it the more. Angry isn't really the right emotion I guess. Eyebrow raised emoji-y is more accurate.

Now that I am a bit older and wiser and have read more shoujo, I think the majority of the annoyance and confusion I felt towards ouran, especially nearing the end of the show, came from the fact that it pretty much bait-and-switches its own stance on gender roles, classism and judging by appearance. Please note that I have not rewatched ouran in many years so take all this with a grain of salt and forgive me for anything I'm straight up misremembering.

Haruhi, to me, embodies a very quintessential shoujo protagonist archetype. She's not necessarily radicalized against gender roles, but doesn't place the same importance in gendered performance as her peers. She's also viciously ambitious and doesn't downplay her own intelligence, qualities that her female peers around her have been conditioned to avoid in their cartoonishly extreme upper class upbringings.

However, the other girls' education being a direct result of their education is never really examined. All the other girls at ouran are presented as vapid and "boy-crazy" over the host club. Renge, the only major female character aside from Haruhi herself, is delegated to being comedic relief (and of course, the humour surrounding her almost always has to do with her obsession with Kyoya) with some not so subtle implications that Haruhi is above her girlish antics because Haruhi is... Better, to put it bluntly, in every way including her ability to appeal to men, which can be seen through Kyoya's neutral to distasteful opinion of Renge vs his somewhat unsubtle care and attraction towards Haruhi.

This very unflattering depiction of women other than Haruhi extends to the very queer-coded* Lobelia academy girls, who the host club spends an episode "rescuing" Haruhi from and, once again despite their group leader's more masculine look, reacts in shock and horror at their feminine interests. Eugh, makeup! Disgusting!

*pressing the "nuance" button on this one because we can't expect to apply our understanding of queer signalling on a Japanese highschooler, but the Lobelia girls are. Fairly blatant enough I feel that I almost don't even want to call it coding.

The girls in the show who aren't Haruhi are either boy-crazy and therefore stupid, side characters whose episodes are often tied to getting with a male love interest (who is always depicted as "plain" compared to the desirable men of the host club), rivals in love against Haruhi (like Eclair) or silly evil lesbians.

Speaking of the silly evil lesbians, I do think it's interesting how many times the show feels the need to restate Haruhi's heterosexuality through her endless amounts of blatant disinterest in her fangirls. I briefly wrote once on how patriarchal standards have an amount of gender-nonconformity that can be accepted with women, but violently withdraws that acceptance when it can be even slightly confused with signalling queerness. Every second boomer dad wants a tomboy daughter, yet none of them seem to want trans sons. Idk, food for thought.

It's also fascinating to me that Utena is so much older than Ouran, yet almost feels like a direct response to Ouran's pitfalls at times e.g. the "not like other girls" logic of Ouran's world that pits women against eachother. The only women deserving of sympathy are those who don't act as a "threat" to Haruhi's desireability, everyone else is stupid and beneath her or an evil bitch.

The one woman who is always shown as intelligent and worthy of respect outside of Haruhi herself is Haruhi's deceased mother. Interesting that she had to be dead and more of a concept and motivator for Haruhi instead of.. a character.

If the show was just a marina and the diamonds girls simulator that would be one thing but what I find even more insidious is that not only does it not respect its female cast, Haruhi herself is almost. Instructed? In the show to uphold patriarchal rhetoric, when she entered as a neutral force. With the fact that she acts as the audience stand-in, I find this just the smallest bit troubling.

ESPECIALLY. when talking about the specific episode that really gave me the "I don't like this alot but I can't describe why" feelings when I was 12. Everything else in the show I can look past but this episode genuinely pissed me the fuck off when I was 12 and pisses me off even more now.

I'm talking of course about the "better remember your place in society or men will rape you!!"

In episode 8, the host club visits the beach but instead of the fun beach episode I thought was coming up, 12 year old me was hit was Haruhi being scolded by Tamaki for trying to defend a group of girls from ruffians, simply because she is a girl. Haruhi obviously gets mad.

This in of itself is fine, Tamaki's been shown to be an idiot and very deep in the misogyny/classism sauce, and the way this show mocks that is why I really like him.

But Tamaki is supposed to be IN THE RIGHT this episode, as later Kyoya pretends that he's going to rape Haruhi to teach her a lesson about why women shouldn't confront men I guess. Which, of course, implies quite a lot of very strange things in a show made for young girls, including that if you just abide by gender expectations that are Good and Keep You Safe you... won't be raped? Haruhi even thanks Kyoya for PRETENDING HE WAS GOING TO RAPE HER ?

It's this. Very strange and hypocritical moment for this show and really, really soured Kyoya's character for me -- which is a shame cus I do think he's one of the most interesting club members. I'll never not fume about this episode man I literally got into fights with friends over this episode being garbage as a kid and it was one of the smartest opinions I had at that age.

It's also gross to me that this whole thing revolved around, in the first place, Haruhi trying to defend other girls. In a show that keeps isolating Haruhi from them. So to recap 1. DO NOT seek out relationships with other women, they are vapid and won't understand you, certainly not more than the men in your life and 2. If you defend other women (from men), you're being stupid. Get a man to handle it instead, because it's men's duty to defend women, not yours. and if you violate this natural order you deserve to get raped. Hashtag some gender roles are good, actually.

I also have more thoughts on the way it's presented as if being raped as a woman is the worst thing imagineable but Renge's stalker tendencies towards Kyoya are played up for laughs. Shrugs.

The episode even ends with Haruhi saying she wasn't afraid because she knew Kyoya wasn't going to do it, but then ending up in a curled up helpless ball anyway because of. some thunder. really awesome. While I don't have any problem with exploring Haruhi's vulnerability, we never see any of the boys in such a state, reinforcing that this isn't about dropping the facade of unemotional masculinity but Haruhi being... a girl. Barf.

Even completely disregarding that episode, the messaging is. Strange to say the least. I do think this one might be the thing that gets me shot because Tamaki Does come around to appreciating Haruhi as a person and not simply a "woman", but the fact remains that she still acts as a "love interest" from beginning to end. And the whole dynamic of. Haruhi going from completely disinterested to fond of Tamaki over time, and Tamaki learning to abandon his playboy ways and see Haruhi as a person is totally fine and okay. BUT it is a little bit. Oh so NOW you want to talk about seeing women as people.

I feel that I've been. very focused on the hate part of the love hate and I'll be real nowadays that is very much the dominant half. I still like the show just for nostalgia value, the humour, as well as the host club members themselves. Morii and Honey specifically have a really awesome dynamic and I wish we got to see Honey go berserker more but it is what it is. Kyoya, rapey moment aside, is also really fun and maybe one of those characters that made me realise what kind of tropes I like. I will not stand a word of Hikaru and Kaoru slander, those boys are awesome and their incestuous club personas are a great parody of how performative the club really is, and through that how performative society as a whole is when dealing with attraction as a concept. And I actually really like the side characters too, the emo catboy and Renge in particular.

But I'd be lying if I said it wasn't perhaps one of the most anti-feminist bait and switches I'd ever seen in my life.

Haruhi's not even gender-nonconforming!! She's just a normie with a normal amount of care put into gendered presentation but because she's in the psychopath rich people school she SEEMS gender-nonconforming!! Which is fine as I've said before I think a lot of shoujo protagonists are like Haruhi in that their gender is more "I just work here" at best and something used to oppress them at worst, but Haruhi goes out of her way to present more feminine the moment she leaves the school gates.

Big words for this show to come out swinging saying gender roles and expectations attached to them are dumb when its so terrified of actually tackling them. I don't require everything I watch to be queer queer gay gay homosexual transgender beam attack but like?? Why have Haruhi say she dgaf and then have her present feminine anyway? Especially when it's been highlighted to us that her family is dirt poor, yet she still has the money for hair extensions? You're telling me she decided to cut ALL OF HER HAIR OFF FOR A TINY PIECE OF GUM. for no reason at all when she could've easily just cut it into a bob??

FTR I do still like Haruhi which is what makes this all the more frustrating, especially since she's one of the few female anime characters who we're told is supposed to be masc-presenting and actually could pass as that. Mf questioned the system of gender and then proceeded to do fuckall with it. Gets forced into crossdressing but underlines it with "but im not a lesbian" the whole way through. What cowardice. What theory and no practice. What bark but no bite. What a non-theme. Haruhi is the opposite of punk. Centrist ass take of an anime.

Ahem. Biases aside. I just feel like it fails as a romance, fails saying anything substantial about gender or class and ultimately ends up being meaningless fluff at best and pro-rapist and anti-woman at worst.

[euniexenoblade]

I know girls genuinely like this

[brave-symphonia]

God, seeing this scene, the one from the Fate route. Having Mordred see the actual scene where Merlin warns Arturia, I love that.

And that’s what happened, she ceased to be human. She just became a king, never able to live as a person, until the day she died.

And yet, she doesn’t regret it.

She took the sword anyway.

And I love how Merlin turns to Mordred asking what Mordred will do in this situation, with this information.

[skittymon]

Alright, I finished Fate/Apocrypha.

The second season was a lot stronger than the first (sadly Mordred didn’t show up as much then smh). I loved majority of the cast, Hell it even made me feel something for Gilles (Fate/Zero Caster) so ye.

Again, only shitty part was Seig (he was fine up until like ep 23 when he being bullshit op) and his stupid ass romance with Jeanne. Jeanne when she wasn’t talking about Seig was a really good character and god I hate self interest to romance your ‘waifu’

But yea awesome cast and premise that got weighed down with stupid self interest and romance. But yea it’s at least worth a watch for people who’ve watched other fates (esp if you’ve watched fate/zero).

It’s not as bad as I say Im just really pissed about seig and his stupid ass fling with jeanne cause that’s what the last two eps focused on. There’s a lot of phenomenal stuff in here and Archer of Black vs Rider of Red is probs one of my favorite fights in Fate now.

[animebxuty]

"Well I guess its nice to meet you all, but I have to wonder you said Monika is the one who plans things. Anything you girls are more interested in reading right now? Not that I'm against the idea of reading more about Mordred's stories," Salter replied while continuing to flip the page of her manga.

Salter looked at Sayori, while reading a manga. "So I'm curious what else do you do? You don't do anything other then read? Also who are the others here?"

"Er, well... we hang out together, write poetry or do whatever activities Monika thinks of for us to do. Sometimes Natsuki brings baked goods in and shares them with us... but most of the time we just sit and talk amongst each other speaking of which..."

"The short girl with the pink hair is Natsuki-" "Hey, don't just call me short so casually!"

"The tall girl with purple hair is Yuri." "Nnn... h-hi...?"

"And I'm Monika! Hello~!"

[reignsan]

Fellas I say it a lot but it cannot be understated: The Fate/Apocrypha anime was a bad adaptation.

Entire character arcs were cut, especially for the Red faction. Karna has this whole thing where he really really badly wants to fight Siegfried again which is why he’s so happy when he fights Sieg at the climax. Gone. Achilles has flashbacks about Penthesilea. Gone.

Character moments like Shakespeare buying his books from the store or Sieg helping Jeanne do Laeticia’s math homework are gone.

The anime completely skips over or changes crucial details. No mention is made of Sieg using Galvanism in his fight with Karna, leaving the reason he can suddenly spam his NP a mystery. The anime does not have Kairi teleporting Mordred out of Blasted Tree with a CS, leaving how Mordred survived unexplained.

And so on.

Neither of their translations are finished but please read the novel and/or manga instead of judging Apocrypha solely on the anime.

At least it was pretty to look at and had a banger of a soundtrack.

[tainbocuailnge]

That earlier post about Sieg got me thinking about how like. The fanbase will call fate protags like Hakuno and Sieg (and apparently Shirou once upon a time) bad because they lack personality even though in the first 2’s case they hadn’t even been alive for more than a week, and Shirou has crippling trauma that stunted him as a person, but nah they’re clearly bad characters. Why can’t fate fans read.

FATE! FANS! CAN’T! READ! in shirou’s case it was like 90% the fault of the 2006 deen anime though because they completely gutted his character and he actually was that bland and stupid in that one, so since it was the easiest way to consume a fate + even if you do read the vn you still have to sit through king chauvinist of fuckwad mountain early fate route shirou twisting your image of him further, the image of “shirou is bland and stupid” prevailed until the ufotable anime in 2014. 

and even with sieg i can sorta see where it’s coming from? because he’s got a pretty reserved personality which especially next to more colorful characters like astolfo/mordred/[apocrypha character of your choice] will make it hard for him to catch the attention of more surface level readers. but here too I cannot stress enough how much worse the anime made it for him, because so much of the subtle things that make him good just did not make it to the fucking screen and he actually is a significant percentage cardboard in there, and because neither the novels or the manga are completely available in english it’s literally going to be a repeat of deen shirou i hate it i hate it i hate it

if you think hakuno is bland you literally just don’t have fucking eyes