#misogyny in Hollywood

[daisiesonafield-blog]

For everyone who thinks Harry (or any celeb) doesn’t need PR 🥴

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[xxx-theartofsuicide-xxx]

so let's say you get a button , and what happens if you press it is that it changes the world beetlejuice goes Hawaiian did happen. but bjbj doesn't. would you press it

Of course not, BJ Goes Hawaiian was silly, poorly written, and didn't have a beetlebabes-coded ending. That's likely why it was vetoed. I would press the button that simultaneously kills all of the misogynistic, fascist producers in Hollywood; the ones that kill projects that serve demographics they don't understand. The ones that can't ever see "the villain" win, no matter how much women want him to, because "society won't understand" society being straight white men aged 18-45 who view themselves as "the hero." Because as we all know, women are responsible for upholding the moral fabric of society. If we fuck the villain, the world would fall apart at the seams.

...and then I would give Winona an unlimited budget and a creative team of her choosing to go crazy.

[princeescaluswords]

Is calling Allison Argent “anything with a pulse” not being used in a misogynist context? / You tell me, Pew. Is calling and reducing Allison Argent to "Scott's dead white girlfriend" not misogynist? You are the one who used those words after all

I would usually put something like this in the trash bin, but you brought up something that I want to talk about: context.

I did say the words "Scott's dead white girlfriend" because I was expressing my displeasure with the show's writing in Apotheosis (5x20). In it, for those who might not know, Scott is fighting with The Beast, Sebastien Valet, who by sheer coincidence (something else that displeased me) shoves his claws into the back of Scott's neck, thereby seeing images of Scott's memories of Allison.

I would argue that describing Allison in Apotheosis as "Scott's dead white girlfriend" is not misogynist because, at the time, she was actually dead, she has always been white, and the memories in which she was appearing were flashbacks to romantic and emotional scenes between them. So yes, I did describe Scott's dead white girlfriend as "Scott's dead white girlfriend."

But why did I do it? Why was I disappointed by Allison's appearance in Apotheosis? Well, that's something I feel is worth talking about.

Contrary to some people's opinions, I've never been shy about talking about how the writers of Teen Wolf fed into fandom and Hollywood racism by establishing repeatedly that Scott, to be a hero, can never act in behalf of his own emotions, but must overcome adversity and pain only to be in service to others. Don't get me wrong, it's a noble characteristic, and one that makes me like Scott, but it became racist when the production veered, as it so often did, into making it mandatory, in a way they never did for any other especially white character. It seemed to me that in Season 5, the writers had characters forget that Scott didn't seek to become a werewolf, he didn't seek to become an alpha, and so had his own mother give him a speech in Status Asthmaticus (5x10) in which she told him, essentially, that he had to let people abuse him in order to be a good leader. In a similar vein, The writers had Mason say that Scott had to forgive Liam in Damnatio Memoriae (5x12). Fighting to preserve the lives that would be lost to La Bête du Gévaudan isn't enough, Scott has to let people like Stiles and Malia and Liam hurt him and the Beast himself violate him to justify his own survival.

DEAD. In keeping with that injustice, the violation of Scott's memories in Apotheosis is portrayed as a triumph. It's just another thing that Scott has to sacrifice to save people, and the writers were very eager to portray this as necessary. "Allison saved him," Stiles tells Lydia, but the truth is -- Allison is dead (at that point). She didn't save shit. Scott isn't dead, but the writers hardly care. How does Scott feel about another serial killer rooting around in his head? We'll never know. The writers put the consequences of that into Things That Are Unnecessary, such as Mason's reaction to being the host for Valet.

WHITE. We all know how hard Kira got screwed as a character in Season 5B. We know that scenes elaborating on Kira's time in the desert was cut, and the way that she was written out was flaming hot garbage, to be compounded later by the "her story was finished" crap of Season 6. Contrary to the Asshole Anon's rantings, I do pay attention to the way the production treated Kira and Arden Cho, and while I also know that Jeff Davis placed special narrative importance on Scott and Allison's relationship, the execution of Kira and Scott's relationship in 5B (especially the Cheap-Ass Green Screen scene) managed to damage the relationship for the audience in a totally unnecessary way, compounded by the fact that after 5x20, Scott never mentioned Kira again.

So yes, I was critical of how they employed Allison in Apotheosis, and I said so. If they wanted to show how powerful Scott's love for others and willingness to sacrifice they could have spent more time on how that affected Scott. The dynamics of Scott saying goodbye to Kira at Shiprock and then very next scene having him wordlessly focus on Allison (instead of letting Stiles tell Lydia about it, it should have been Scott) are just terrible. I don't think that describing how the production messed up is misogynist at all.

Indeed, one of the things I loved most about the movie is that there wasn't a hint of Scott having to justify his survival in how he treats other people, especially in how he treats Allison.

[silveragelovechild]

[fran-kubelik]

Naturally the only conclusion that can be drawn from the mountains of evidence of the (often violent) misogyny in Hollywood, which deliberately minimizes women's ability to fully participate and be recognized in the film industry, is that the very same industry is fully capable of and willing to give women equal footing in awards 🤡

[alicentflorent]

Condal, Hess and Co really missed the point of the books misogynistic fatphobic comments on Rhaenyra’s weight. The problem is historians compare Alicent and Rhaenyra’s body types as if it is at all relevant to them as people or relevant to their rivalry. The problem is they sexualise young Rhaenyra and her teenage body more than her adult body which naturally changed as she grew into womanhood and had six children. Her not losing the baby weight shouldn’t matter but much like tabloids in our culture, the historians felt the need to point out her weight gain and body changes while simultaneously pointing out that Alicent remained slim and had the same body type that she did at 18 even after giving birth to four children.

Rhaenyra being curvy or fat is not a moral failing, it didn’t make her less desirable to her lovers nor did it make her bitter or envious both Rhaenyra and Helaena seemed happy and content with with their larger body types. The point isn’t that her gaining weight was an exaggeration or a lie made up by the anti Rhaenyra sources like condal and Hess have suggested, it’s not her mentioned boy type that’s the problem here, it’s the way she and other bigger women throughout history are talked about by these male sources that is both misogynistic and fatphobic. Quite frankly, erasing her natural weight gain and body changes after she grows older and has six babies is fatphobic and misogynistic in itself.

[femtay]

a lot is talked about famous men who were/are abusers but many times their victims are seen as numbers or just "the victim". i think it's important to highlight the brave women who spoke out and survived these crimes.

dylan farrow is a writer and advocate for survivors of sexual abuse. she has published two YA books, "hush" and it's sequel "veil". you can find her as realdylanfarrow on twitter and instagram. her abuser is woody allen.

virginia giuffre is an advocate for victims of sex trafficking. she created a non-profit organization for survivors based in the US under the name "speak out, act, reclaim" (SOAR). you can find her on instagram as virginia.giuffre.7. one of her abusers was jeffrey epstein.

lauren sivan is a reporter and actress. she has worked for broadcasts such as Fox, ESPN and NBC. she appeared in the movie taken 3. you can find her on instagram as idiotsivan. her abuser is harvey weinstein.

andrea constand was a basketball player, having played for canada's national team. now she is an advocate for mental health and environmentalism. you can find her on instagram as andreaconstand (she's also a psychedelic support therapist. independently of how i feel about that, inform yourself before signing up for anything). her abuser is bill cosby.

melissa schuman is a singer and advocate for sexual assault survivors. she was a member of the girl group "dream". you can find her on instagram as themelissaschuman. her abuser is nick carter.

[nix-that-rad-lass]

I watched some videos from Glastonbury last night and I noticed that Girl In Red legit just dressed in a baggy shirt and trousers. Paris Paloma dressed in a stunning floor length gown. Avril Lavigne wore a pretty typical punk outfit with a skirt and tall boots.

Contrast that with Chappell Roan, Sabrina Carpenter, or Megan Thee Stallion typically dressing in something that you’d see at a strip club.

It seems to me that women are only given the resources and attention to become big, well known celebrities if they are willing to sell their bodies.

Those that refuse to do so find themselves blocked by the industry, restrained to having a smaller or even niche following.

We can also talk about how the average man has little to no music by women in his library, thus if female artists want to expand their following to include men, they have to find other ways to appeal to men- not as talented artistic people, but as sexual objects for consumption. It is the only way the average man pays any attention to a female artist- whether good or bad attention.

I’d also like to note that the female artists who tend to heavily lean into the sex object look tend to be just starting out and trying to work their way up, often having one or two songs blow up and getting roped into a predatory industry. They tend to be young and easily molded, often made to follow ambitions other than their own.

Some certainly lean into it of their own volition, but many see no other route if they wish to maintain their status.

Women who are content not to be “A List” or tend to care less about getting with the big record labels, usually care less about changing themselves to become palatable.

There’s a limit to how “big” a female artist can get without selling herself in this world.

Unfortunately, fame tends to attract people who are pliable enough to be palatable, and thus we don’t often see people who challenge the status quo “make it big”.

The only one I can think of in recent history is probably Ed Sheeran and let’s face it, his music is bland and he would never have gotten the same attention as a woman since a prerequisite to be a highly successful female singer is palatable cookie cutter beauty.

We can also look at the known trend that the more rights women gain, the more explicit men are in their oppression. I believe that extends to the misogyny common to circles of fame.

Taylor Swift and Miley Cyrus know it well- to be successful in this system, you must follow the rules until you’re secure enough to begin bending them. But is it worth risking the big label? Worth risking the image you’ve built up, to challenge the status quo to help those starting out who, frankly, are often seen as competition?

Is it any wonder that in such a corrupt and backwards industry as music- male dominated since the times of Mozart or Bach or Liszt- that women struggle, and those who struggled to success are not often willing to risk their success to help the next generation- the next batch of competitors.

Hollywood and the wider circles of fame are dominated by some people, and they view the up-and-coming artists as competition to be held at arms length, to be disadvantaged if it keeps them high up.

It’s a mess of misogyny, capitalism, narcissism, and apathy.

So must we really force all the blame upon the new generation of female artists who are just trying to play by the rules? When this is a system far larger than them?

[the-land-of-women]

People never go on these kind of hate campaigns for men lbh

[lauronk]

man, hollywood has really warped some perceptions of how people age if you think that young manzino (32) looks perfect as a 20yo, but also that bella (20) and isabela (22) are too young looking to play 19/20 year olds

[canichangemyblogname]

I’m just… I’m tired.

A group of men making a joke skit about “casting couches” isn’t just tacky, but tone deaf.

Just because something wasn’t done maliciously doesn’t mean it doesn’t do harm.

[personal-blog243]

If you are someone who…..

. Likes movies with blood

. Has any passion for feminism/body positivity

Then you MUST watch this movie! Can’t recommend it enough.

[anghraine]

It is very strange to me that there's this idea that open bigotry or otherwise abhorrent behavior becomes okay if the target is in some way acceptable.

Like ... bigotry towards or about people who are themselves awful, and/or powerful, and/or cringe, and/or older/younger, and/or public figures, and/or however you want to define them as acceptable targets, is still bigotry.

Your target may never hear what you say. But the people around you generally will. You're still adding to the bigotry that people witness and experience and which is just ... this miasma in the world.

I'm not saying there's no place for anger, confrontation, condemnation, harsh jokes, whatever—it's not that context never has any bearing on whether actions in general are right or wrong. But relying on bigotry to make your point is wrong without exception.

[honestlyyoungtyphoon]

It's funny how kdrama/manhwa fandom suffers from "second male lead syndrome" but never the second female lead syndrome. If a female character dares to breath next to male lead she gets the most hate. Male leads and second male leads could be rapists, mass murderers, destroy people's lives but if they say sorry or simp female lead, it's all fine and dandy. But a female character (not as a female lead) even side eyes the MC, she's treated as demon incarnate.

Unfortunately it's not just in kdrama or manhwa. I saw this phenomenon in Hollywood too. For example breaking bad. Skyler gets so much hate for not being okay with her husband being a meth maker, the guy who ruined people's lives, tried to rape his wife, abused his son. But somehow she's the most hated character in BB.

In Harry Potter, Umbride is hated so much yet Voldemort gets woobified.

There are so many examples like this.

Male characters could do absolutely vile things yet still get forgiving but if a female character is a bitch, she's the worst.

Y'all just love to hate women.

[odinsblog]

Amber Heard, on the realities of Hollywood