#scott mccall defense squad

[capricornsicle]

my favorite part of teen wolf is that every season Scott meets someone who tries to kill him and he thinks it over and goes "you know what? I can fix him" and he has like a 96% success rate. statistically he WILL fix him. Derek Hale? Chris Argent? Theo Raeken? Deucalion? Stiles Stilinski his own best friend whose visage is being worn by a monster that killed the love of his life? fixed. and he does it through the power of friendship every time. all of the guys he's fixed already say "come on, Scott, you can't fix everyone, not everyone is capable of redemption, you gotta let some people go." and Scott is like "no. I will simply love my enemy." and when he finally meets someone who refuses his every offer of love and slaps it out of his hands the way that he defeats him is by offering it to him again. no one is doing it like him.

[winterstarfall]

the most stupid stunt the stiles stilinski teen wolf fanbase ever pulled was making people think scott was a bad friend. give me one example of him Ever dismissing any of his friends and no you can’t include moments of battle or him telling his Visibly Unwell friends to go home and rest. or when theo was manipulating him.

[spikeface]

The first male I was with was a male prostitute/masseuse. Just experimented. I had plenty of gay friends but I didn’t want to go to them and be like… you want to hang out? That was my first time. I’ve been with most types of people, trans people also, and then there was like, a headline that came out. I get scared of my mouth, some times I go a little too far, be a little too honest, and it’s caused headlines. For like two years I was accused of queerbaiting. I had to hire a private investigator because this person kept saying they were going to hire a hitman to kill me. Yeah. I was honest one time about who I had been with, and said I had been with all sexes and wasn’t ashamed of it. The public scrutiny of it was uncomfortable but… you have to go through uncomfortable stuff to get where you want to be... Just want more acceptance, that’s what I’m trying to do here.

-- Tyler Posey, via (x).

He's gone through such unbelievable levels of harassment and I wish more people understood that.

[myungsooism]

something from my twitter

[partiallypearl]

saw someone say scott mccall should have been a firefighter rather than a vet and i can see why, but i think one of the most important parts of his character is the fact that he is so kind in a way that a lot of humans are not.

and yes, he could show that kindness through being a first responder, but there's something about the kindness that is shown to animals.

specifically the kindness scott shows to animals.

his first real proper interaction with allison is with the dog in the pilot, and he takes such gentle care of it. he recognizes the dog's fear (yes partially bc of his werewolf powers) and he does his best to calm it. he sees how animals react in a way that others can't/don't. scott's kindness is a fundamental aspect to him. every time we see him interacting with animals, he has a sense of kindness to him that extends now past animals and to humans.

and it's ironic isn't it? this boy who was once fully human is now half human half animal. and no matter what, he always leans into both sides. he works in a veterinary clinic.

sure, he likes helping and saving people, but he craves a connection with both worlds - the human and the animal.

[toastybugguy]

Fanon perception:

The actual text of the show:

guys the huge difference is actually really funny when I’m not actively crying about it

[scereksdraeden]

Nothing brings me joy like blocking someone who hates Scott (or only use him to make another character seem better)

[liliaeth]

It's interesting how many people take the fanon notion of 'Scott hates Derek' as canon, when it's so obviously false.

But then they see it repeated in fic so often, that far too many people don't realize it for the fanon it is.

Scott distrusts and dislikes Derek at first in s1 when Derek is terrorizing and abusing him. Derek betrays him, and tries to kill Jackson, but still Scott tries to believe the best of him. Only for Derek to betray him again. Which leads him to distrust Derek in s2, especially as in that season Derek is one of the villains. Not only is Derek manipulating kids into accepting the bite, putting them in danger, but on top of that, Derek is ready to kill people based on old folkstales and pretty much has no plan to deal with Gerard.

Even despite all that though, Scott still deeply cares for Derek and keeps giving him chance after chance.

Even at Derek's worst, Scott never hated Derek.

Scott went to save Derek, repeatedly in s1, and even with Gerard literally threatening Melissa's life, Scott still refuses to betray Derek to Gerard, and though it would be the safest solution to deal with Gerard, he never once tells Gerard where Derek is hiding.

Not accepting Derek as an alpha, when Derek proves over and over how unsuited his is for the position, is not the same as hating Derek.

By s3 when Derek starts redeeming himself, Scott clearly deeply cares about Derek. He's not stupid, he doesn't blindly follow Derek's orders, but he does listen to Derek and give him yet another chance, despite Derek's repeated betrayals. And when he thinks Derek died because of something Scott did, Scott becomes suicidal, first refusing to let himself heal, in Frayed, and then almost killing himself in Motel California.

By s4 as Derek has grown, gotten over himself and redeemed himself, Derek becomes a mentor to Scott, and Scott does listen to his advice. Even as he still doesn't blindly follow him.

Those are not the actions of a person who hates Derek

Scott and Derek's relationship is one of growth, of change, of becoming better and learning from one another. It's one of the most beautiful relationships on teen wolf.

And it's a pity how much of fandom ignores that.

[uglynavel]

Why is Scott McCall the only person who's not allowed to be complex and have flaws like everyone else in the show?

Why is he the only one being demonized and villianized for making mistakes like a normal human being?

(well I know the reason but I'm still pissed off about it)

Please free my boy from media illiterate Teen Wolf fans!! 😭

[emilyskinners]

'I hate Scott because he didn't believe Stiles'

Maybe that was because of Theo's manipulation. He has been manipulating the Pack aside from Stiles (who did have a right not to trust him) since beginning of season 5. Theo had put on a good act, convincing Scott that Stiles killed Donovan in cold blood (though that wasn't the case, but you get my point, since this is Scott's pov). And he's a teenager who makes mistakes. I don't see you guys holding a grudge and hating Stiles for all the shitty things he's done. But of course, it's white male pretty privilege, coming at us, once again. Are we shocked? No. Are we disappointed that most of the teen wolf fandom is racist? Yes.

Scott is too trusting (I love him but it's true), so he was the most easy to manipulate, with Malia and Liam in second.

And also the fact that Stiles got pissed at Scott, then proceeded to tackle him for not being there for him as Stilinski was in the hospital and for trusting Theo. Hmm... Maybe because your best friend literally had gotten murdered by Theo and was brought back to life like a minute later and still injured and in the process of healing, which is going slowly. And is in a state of shock, especially that the Pack had broken apart due to Theo's constant manipulation. And the 'oh, you'll heal' part pissed me the fuck off. Like shut the actual fuck up, Stiles. Gosh season 5 him is his absolute worst season

My motto is: when things go wrong, blame Theo, cause it's usually his fault

[jessmalia]

people act like hating scott is imperative to being a stiles fan as if stiles wouldn’t fucking kill you for saying that

[kathrahender]

I can't believe people are seriously hating on Scott McCall💀

What's happening to you Teen Wolf fans? What's this shit? Like are you seriously hating on Scott McCall? The Scott McCall? Bro, he was one of the best parts of Teen Wolf.

"He was a bad friend". Yeah, sure... It's true that Scott didn't believe Stiles when Theo told him what he did to Donovan, but he was being manipulated by Theo. They both were being manipulated by Theo. And making one mistake doesn't make you a bad friend, because during the rest of the show Scott was an excellent friend, not only to Stiles but to the rest of his pack.

I don't know if we even watched the same show because saying Scott was a bad friend is honestly bullshit and is like saying Derek was the happiest person in the world 💀

[capricornsicle]

I've kind of been getting back into teen wolf recently and I've been noticing more than I used to just how anti Scott a bunch of people are. like, why?! what did he ever do to you?! people will include every other character including fucking Peter and they'll still exclude Scott or hate on him for no reason. idk it's just crazy to me

what did he ever do to you?!

Main character, own show, not white.

Long answer:

I've also taken a break from Teen Wolf fandom (and Tumblr) for a while, and it's really cemented in my mind just how much of Scott hate and Scott dislike and how much of the obsession with other characters instead by way of stripping them of their canon personalities and actions and confidently stating that they are actually the Scott McCall of the story in every way is just repackaged racism.

Honeslty, I got into Teen Wolf after reading some Sterek fic I was recommended. For someone with no knowledge of the show past maybe a couple episodes I'd seen years ago, I thought it was pretty good. Then I started watching the show and started being active on Tumblr, and despite being brown myself and being fairly used to fandom racism already, I saw so much about how Scott was naïve and dumb that I started believing it. The vast majority of the fandom space being dominated by Sterek content which already often relies on dropping Scott from main character to at best a supporting character and at worst an antagonist to a romance and by content that did include Scott painting him as an idiot, coupled with not having finished the show yet and not getting to see just how much Scott grows up and some of his best moments where you realize how smart and strong he is, had me putting some embarrassingly wrong takes out there on the internet.

I have since changed my tune. 2 consecutive years of anonymous (purely on a technicality, because we all know who it is) hate mail specifically orchestrated to alienate me from fans who do like Scott (primarily by outright lying about users like @princeescaluswords, @liliaeth, and @spikeface, if you remember that series of asks I apologize for my lack of critical reasoning skills at the time) and to brute force argue in the worst faith possible until I accepted their outlandish statements as logical bases for a debate will do that to a person. Also, I finished the show. I'm curious how many people active in fandom have never actually seen past season 3b or season 4, since so much of Scott hate is centered around the events of season 5 and so many people say egregiously wrong things about those events as fact to prove that Scott is a bad friend or a bad leader or what have you.

This fandom is an interesting place. The entire environment is so steeped in anti-Scott sentiment that was created by, like, 5 specific people who are for some reason treated as logical and reasonable actors and respected in fandom, and in deeply delusional fanon that has become a fandom unto itself in the years it's had to brew. Sterek remains popular because it's an easy story to like for a lot of people who spend a lot of time online and in fandom spaces: a (white) guy who's kind of a loser, feels physically and socially powerless, but is creative and snarky and uses the powers of sarcasm and quirkiness to draw the attention of a more powerful, more experienced, more confident, rock-hard-abs (white) man who's hopelessly enamored despite being entirely unattainable in real life. So the Sterek fandom remains active, and inhabits the husk of the thing that used to be the Teen Wolf fandom before the Teen Wolf fans got tired of being pushed out of their own space and went on to other fandoms that are better house-trained. Or a few of us still linger and stubbornly remain in the fandom of things we like, even though a lot of great TV shows and movies and books and games have godawful and deeply toxic and racist fandom spaces.

Racism in the Teen Wolf fandom is like learning what the Wilhelm Scream is. Once you can recognize it you suddenly realize it's everywhere. The fandom relies on passing around the same deeply racist interpretations of events and is fueled by the same hate to keep itself alive. Sterek becomes less interesting when you're not fighting fans of the actual show to prove it exists, or fighting the main character who's in the way of the interpretation of Stiles as the mother of the ensemble cast because he's obviously so much smarter and wiser than them and Derek as the primary love interest and the authoritarian but loving father. Realistically Scott would probably be surprised if Stiles and Derek started dating, but he'd be supportive of his friends. He wasn't happy with Allison dating Isaac, but he was supportive of their relationship because it was making people he cared about happy. There's no version of events where he wouldn't be completely supportive of his best friend being in a relationship with someone who he's come to see as part of his family. Especially when that someone is a person who he's helped to become a better one and right the wrongs he's done, even against Scott himself.

Scott is a bastion of kindness and forgiveness and a prime example of how treating people like they're people, even when they're bad people, is the distinction between a person and a monster. But that's not as inspiring for people who see themselves as Stiles and find Derek attractive as seeing him as an obstacle, especially when the fandom is an echo chamber of Scott's apparent wrongdoings against them and their relationship that are all just words to cover up a vicious jealousy that Scott is the main character because the path to being the better person isn't proving you're better than everyone else, it's by knowing that you are just as human as everyone else and recognizing that treating people like they are capable of being good is a wildly successful method of bettering them. But that's hard, and nihilism and snark are easy.

Scott hate is just racism. I've been wrong before, in fact most things I've learned have come from being wrong about them first, and I'd be delighted to be wrong about this, but it's been a long wait to find the Teen Wolf fan who hates Scott for a reason that is true and unrelated to him not being white. Fortunately being racist isn't an incurable disease. It's something that can be unlearned and something that people can practice recognizing and walking away from. Maybe part of me coming back to this blog and this fandom after a relaxing hiatus is my continued belief, especially in the face of recent world events, that people can change. In my years of being in this fandom, I've seen a lot of bullshit, a lot of racism, a lot of racist bullshit, and some of the most purposefully bigoted people I've ever encountered. They know who they are. But I've also seen enough people change their minds about Scott and breathe fresh life into the very small Teen Wolf part of the Teen Wolf fandom that sometimes it's a pretty fun place to be in. Racism can be unlearned. On a fandom level and on a much larger scale.

And I really like Scott. I think deliberately choosing kindness when you're surrounded by violence and compliance is admirable, and I think popular culture could use more role models like that. The fact that he looks like me when still in 2025 so few of the heroes do is an added bonus.

[prettyshon10]

Hey, there.

Just wanted to reiterate that Scott McCall was a VICTIM, and him initially wanting nothing to do with being a werewolf was NOT “whining”.

Peter was vile. Derek was not a good teacher. The bite was NOT a gift. Scott owed them nothing, least of all his gratitude.

There’s nothing “cool” about being attacked in the woods. There’s nothing “awesome” about having your choices and autonomy stripped. There’s nothing “fun” about being hunted. There’s nothing to “embrace” about being dragged into a conflict that has NOTHING to do with you.

Scott McCall was a victim, and y’all need help.

[anakinskywalkerisfave]

In this house we love and appreciate Scott McCall

[liliaeth]

I was just thinking about something that keeps returning in fandom...

People acting as if Scott somehow thinks in black and white, while Stiles to them thinks in shades of grey, which they translate to 'is willing to kill'. And it's just such absolute nonsense.

A big part of the issue here that I've noticed, is something fandom often loves to ignore. Namely that from s1 on, Scott was most often the one being attacked, the one forced to deal with life or death choices. While Stiles, still got to keep seeing death as something abstract, something that happened, but wasn't a decision that he personally had to make. Stiles wasn't forced to resist the urge to kill, he didn't have some force in his head try to make him kill people, and in the early seasons, he was a foil for Scott. Someone who didn't have to face the choice between life and death. For Stiles that responsibility did not come until s3b.

Scott didn't have that privilege. Even as early on as s1, when Peter tried to control him, he was forced to feel what it would be like to maul and possibly kill someone he cared about. It might have been just a dream, but all too soon he had to find out it was a dream based on reality. the reality where Peter tried to make him kill someone. And it took all of Scott's will power to resist doing so.

And then not long after, Peter forced Scott's darkest instincts to come up, making him actually want to kill his friends. A experience that clearly horrified Scott. Because he'd already had that feeling in the first two episodes of the show, where his instincts made him go after Stiles, his best friend.

So when Peter sent Derek after Jackson, for Scott, that wasn't some abstract notion, it was reality.

It wasn't just people trying to kill him, and the fear of that, but the fear that he himself might kill others. Which is why in s5 to him, the worst thing to happen to Liam would be for him to have to live with having killed Scott. Not for Scott's sake, but for Liam's...

For Scott, killing isn't some black and white bullshit, it's real, it's a way of ending any and all other possibilities for a person.

When Scott refuses to kill, it's not because he believes in black and white, or good and evil, it's because he doesn't.

Because he knows that just because someone is an asshole, or does bad things, that doesn't mean they're evil, that doesn't mean they deserve to die. Because he believes in shades of grey. because Killing and Death are not just funny abstract threats, or exaggerations, it's something real, and it's not a decision that should be taken lightly.

Stiles can argue for killing, since he's never expected to be the one to do the deed. He can ask Scott to "consider letting [Derek] die," or to "kill Jackson, problem solved," because he's not the one who has to bear the responsibility.

Now admittedly, it's not that Stiles had no idea of how dark things really were, not after the end of s1. he'd seen dead people, Lydia’s mauled body made it more than real. His willingness to consider killing was more from powerlessness…he didn’t see many options to stop the killers without killing them. After all, in S1 his first instinct was to have Derek arrested and it didn’t work, so he suggests murder and killing, but still never has to actually make the choice to commit the killing himself

Not until s3b, and even then Stiles choice was 'lock himself up' or let the Nogitsune kill. The same choice Scott already had to make in s1.

Fandom likes to pretend Stiles could easily kill the bad guys, when the reality of the show is that when Stiles did accidentally kill, in s5, it devastated him. Because just like Scott, he came to realize that killing is final, killing is destructive, and doing so should never be a first solution.

Both Scott and Stiles had to make these choices, both of them came to the same conclusion, and that's something fandom loves trying to ignore.