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hoping i'm the first person here to make miraculous ladybug/jfk assassination crossover art
#miraculous fandom#miraculous fanart#miraculous adrien#adrien agreste#mlb adrien#miraculous lb#miraculous fanfic#mlb art#miraculous chat noir#chat noir#miraculous les aventures de ladybug et chat noir#miraculous spoilers#miraculous season 5#mlb collusion#mayor chloe#jfk assassination#mlb s5#mlb salt#chloe bourgeois#marinette dupain cheng#mlb ladybug
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Does Chloe tone down her direct bullying/harassment of Marinette after that day to just the dead mom jokes out of guilt, or is it more that Marinette now being homeschooled means Chloe just lost access? Also, does Lila try the whole lying/sabotaging thing on Marinette and just fail or does Marinette just not care?
Lila has no reason to sabotage Marinette because Marinette isn't threatening her little empire she wants to build. In fact, she really wants Marinette on her side BECAUSE she's not apart of the school, so she doesn't need to keep up an elaborate web of lies! She can just try to befriend a talented girl who makes AMAZING food and try to get freebies~
meanwhile, with Chloe, things got really complicated after the pool incident...
Tom was not in the mood to put up with this crap.
#replies#my art#dad villain au#DO NOT... come at me about france laws I tried to look up jurisdiction when it came to minors in criminal matters#and everything I found was unhelpful#so for the sake of brevity just know that Chloe almost had a record from this event and the Mayor had to buy Tom out and promise a change#in chloe's behavior#also. I am sorry this italian is off google translate#I havent kept up with my italian duolingo#my friend in italy is going to be so pissed at me RIP my moses ive failed you
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It's like 1973 Supergirl #10 comic cover, but Queen Bee 👑 🐝 💛
A parody 😘
⭐You can get this as a print!⭐
☕💖Buy me a Ko-fi! ☕💖
#chloe bourgeois#queen bee#comic cover#miraculous ladybug#supergirl#Ladybug's frenemy Queen Bee#mayor bourgeois#andre bourgeois#catmelot
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Okay this is the last batch of akuma drawings for now!
#we will be back to your regularly scheduled nonsense tomorrow lol#miraculous ladybug#miraculous#miraculous lb#miraculous fanart#mlb art#mlb#mlb fanart#mlb season five#Queen mayor#chloé bourgeois#chloe bourgeois#ryukomori#kagami tsurugi#vanisher#sabrina raincomprix#akumas#akuma art#mlb villains
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I think I speak these hiatuses into existence
Part 16/???
[First]/[Prev]/[Next]
#i just... i just can't believe chloe is the mayor#miraculous ladybug#ml in universe memes#in universe memes#chloe bourgeois#ml ladybug#cat noir#chat noir#ladynoir#kittybella
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I find it amusing that an in attempt to make Chloe look like a bad person the writers accidentally makes her do a good thing as mayor, aka arresting the ice cream guy who has been selling food without a permit for literal DECADES
How in the name of God's green Earth do you fail to make a strawman look unreasonable?
The scene literally writes itself. Have Chloe grill Andre and try to see if he's done anything she can send him to detention for, only for him to show how certified he is (His vendor's license is up to date, the health inspector gave his ice cream a passing grade, and his cart has no safety hazards), so Chloe gives up and sends him to detention in frustration.
If you want to show Chloe as a tyrant, have her crack down on people who haven't actually broken the law.
#immaturity of thomas astruc#iota#miraculous ladybug#miraculous ladybug salt#chloe bourgeois#queen bee#queen b#queen mayor#andre glacier
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I don't think y'all fully understand how much this pissed me off.
#miraculous ladybug#miraculous#mlb#ml writers salt#gabriel agreste salt#gabriel agreste#mlb monarch#no it being converted from a statue of chloe does not make it better#it actually makes it even worse and the mayor chloe statue was already bad for how goofy it was
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While most of Chloé's akumatized forms seemed very dangerous...
They were NEVER worth Bunnyx's time!
#Miraculous Ladybug#Miraculous Tales of Ladybug and Chat Noir#Chloé Bourgeois#Chloe Bourgeois#Miracle Queen#PenalTeam#Sole Destroyer#Queen Mayor#Alix Kubdel#Bunnyx#Bunnix#Akumatized Forms#Akumatized Villains#Posts with Pics
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So, serious question here:
Why wasn't she the one to take over Paris?
Like, if Chloe can become "interm Mayor" because she's the daughter of the Mayor, then surely the Mayor's wife can do the same thing? In fact, it makes way more sense if Audrey stages a coup because she's an adult, she's power hungry, she's an adult, she's in Gabriel's inner circle, she's an adult, she's a rich world famous celebrity and staging coups is just something they do now (like Trump), and she's an adult!
It's not even like she's too busy to be a Mayor, because 80% of her screen time is living it up and you know... not working? Also being president certainly didn't stop Trump from running his business
#miraculous ladybug#mlb#ml salt#miraculous ladybug salt#ml writers salt#a pinch of#chloe sugar#the girl from season 1 would jump at the chance to be Mayor#but thats not even what happened#Lila had to railroad her into doing that#lila salt#audrey salt#audrey bourgeois#gabriel agreste#gabriel salt#lila rossi#thomas astruc salt
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Wait a second…
You actually think the writers (if that’s what they are)… put one iato of thought into this entire scenario.
Excuse me, but… 🤣
Actually no, that’s not quite sufficient…
Better.
That’s it. You can now continue on with your scheduled day.
#It was all a means to an end to get rid of Chloe you fools#They didn’t care about the particulars they just wanted it done#The morality and legality of such a move didn’t even cross their tiny minds#Obviously Andre escaped punishment for being a shit parent and mayor because REASONS#Anyway fuck this show and all who sail in her#miraculous ladybug#miraculous#ladybug#chloe bourgeois#ml salt#ml#disney#zag#Zoe
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ML Season 6 Wish Fulfillment Outline
This is never going to happen but its what I want to happen, so here's the gist:
Starts in media res like the first season, Akuma are causing trouble on Lila's behalf but are being easily handled by the team.
But if you look closely you can see a Red Akuma flittering in the background sometimes that fuses with the person post purification.
Marinette's life is basically perfect, old friends and new a boyfriend, no school bullies, its great.
We see that Lila's new identity has managed to weave her way into Marinette, Adrien, Kagami & Felix's circle.
When we see Lila operating its obvious she has an accomplice who is powering her up as Nathalie once did Gabriel for Heroes Day.
This person is Chloe, seemingly being controlled via the Amok-Bracelet from season one & described as "empty" by Lila.
Things start going off the wheels however when Lila 'finds out' about Kagami's Amok & questions if she really knows she loves Felix or not.
Kagami finds out that while Felix never commanded her to love him, he did make it so she had a rose tinted view of him. He offered to let her do the same to him. She Akumatized & thrashed him, causing his Miraculous to be taken.
To his nominal credit, Felix does accept he did a terrible thing and refuses to Akumatize over it to 'get his happy ending. This causes Marinette to realize that she can't keep hiding things from Adrien and reveals the truth.
Suffice to say, lots of drama, they are on break at best, Marinette does Akumatize but pulls out of it as she keeps getting flashes of stuff she feels bad about that undermines her sense of anger.
Lila delights in the suffering & its revealed she is actually Chameleon. Basically, Hawk Moth harassed her dreams with Akuma to prime her for Heroes Day but it led to an Akuma being born inside her that took over, now it wants god hood.
This is also where we find out, Chloe was the one who broke the Peacock when Audrey made her. Thank you @generalluxun which is also why her Amok doesn't let one command her, but merely makes her easier to Akumatize if one has it. Lila briefly freaks out but determines she & Kgamai who is now under her thrall, are 'empty. We see a gold & red Akuma vanish into her back.
Things continue to progress with escelating Kuma & Sentimonster attacks & also Adrien prodding into various bits of his life that confuse him.
He & Marinette are secretly attending therapy sessions, but the camera makes it seem like they are always alone rather than sometimes.
This includes finding out Jean cannot find where Chloe lives to send Mr Cuddles & Jean musing on caring more about her than either of her parents did given their Akuma to Zoe after she & Andre have their first fight from her acting overshadowing his film making skill.
We also find out after an Anance battle that Kim is indeed afraid of spiders & even Marinette has no idea what the hell the spider prank is about. Lila muses that was something she orchestrated in secret to further isolate Chloe & only she & Adrien had even been in that pool.
This is when the cast start putting together someone very deft is pulling the strings and there is likely more going on, putting Chameleon on the clock.
We see gold & red Akuma link with Caline, Jean, Sabrina, Felix, Marinette & Adrien in secret. Also Adrien via Plagg maybe discovering Chloe & Kagami have been captured in his own investigation, & while they get away its an important reveal.
Everything comes to ahead when Lila plans to reveal Marinette's lies about Gabriel to the whole world... & gets beaten to the punch by Ladybug telling the truth.
There's still enough anger to utilize but its not what she wanted, especially as hating Marinette/Ladybug is what keeps the Akuma going & without it she'll fade.
Lots of big battles with lots of Akuma & those with red & gold reveal themselves as basically harboring parts of Chloe & Kagami's psyche that are rebelling against Lila & want to help.
A big show of Marinette's growth is that she both trusts them and is willing to make a group plan, with a lot of emphasis placed on Adrien's contributions to the plan.
Especially as it involved him becoming Chat Blanc and attacking Ladybug to distract Lila & make her feel she's won. Though Rena is on back up with illusions.
An Akumatized & transformed Sabrina breaks into Chameleon's base with Lila's mothers when it seems like she's won & the Mega-Akuma activates, letting Lila split herself from Chameleon who is them protected by Nino.
We see the mothers searching for Lila in background scenes throughout the season.
Chameleon makes a last gasp attempt for the Miraculous, but the illusions drop & she gets sucker punched with Cataclysm the thousand butterflies that made her up being purified by a Mega Miracle Cure.
The final episode is basically falling action showing the next year taking place, covering stuff like:
Marinette & Adrien's therapy sessions & the emphasis on the idea of being happy on one's own terms over someone else's.
The Kwami all spoiling their finally returned siblings as well as a subtly resolution with Chloe & Pollen.
New shows demonstrating how Hawk Moth manipulated the likes of Chloe & Lila to help sway public opinion.
Lila re-integrating into society.
The rich kids with shitty parents divorcing them to thunderous applause.
Jean taking over the hotel.
Marinette & Chloe's resolution, with Chloe conceding it wasn't the other girls job to salvage her & Marinette saying she has a better idea of how someone could choose to do things they know are bad for love.
A lot of minor fun things showing emerging dynamics like study and gaming sessions ETC.
Finally it caps off in the park where the statue of Gabriel has been replaced by a giant glowing dance floor. XY, Nino, Jagged Stone & Kitty Section are performing at the first annual Kwami Family Reunion Celebration.
We see more stuff, like Chloe & Kagami seemingly being together & talking with Juleka. Zoe and Lila dancing to the music. Kwami celebrating and chilling with people. Felix & Sabrina engaging in a spirited debate. The Guardian Monks doing a choreographed dance.
Then cap off with Marinette & Adrien taking five away from the party to talk and decide to give it another go. No secret identities, no secrets and not no surprises as both reveal a present for the other.
& that's how I'd handle that!
#Miraculous Ladybug#Miraculous Ladybug Season 6#Outline#text post#If its not obvious Jean is Chloe & Zoe's new legal guardian.#Mr Lee does come up though & is address#Also Chloe gets resolution with Miss Bustier#& the Queen Mayor & Banana stuff is laid at Chameleon's feet#Adrien plays a more central role in this that it signifies cos its technically a mystery story#Also he & Chloe get some resolution but I couldn't squeeze it into the outline#But yeah#All the kids get a happy ending#Even if they fucked up they get the chance to do and be better#Also Chlogami hints cos I know my preferences#marinette dupain cheng#adrien agreste#chloe bourgeois#lila rossi#Akuma#Sentimonster
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Today's episode was Representation, the one with the weird art student play put on by Kagami and Felix. On a rewatch, I think I may have realized why the writers did that. It's a crazy theory, but I can't stop thinking about it.
SO's thoughts first: he was extremely disappointed that Felix used a sentimonster when he could have just talked to Marinette. Wasn't Felix's whole thing freeing sentimonsters? Why does he keep using them for the lamest reasons?
My thoughts: I once again noticed that Felix never says that Adrien is a sentimonster. He just says that Emilie got pregnant - with peacock feathers in the background as a hint - and that Emilie asked Gabriel to help Amelie have a baby, too. Then the peacock gets explicitly brought up, which is odd. Why don't the writers just commit to sentiAdrien and be done with it? I was also confused why they made such a big deal of the family rings when they don't seem to have any special powers in and of themselves.
As I once again considered these issues, I had a thought: does Marinette actually know that Adrien is a sentimonster?
I know that sounds crazy, but think about what she actually knows vs what we know: until Felix explicitly mentions the peacock, Marinette would have no reason to think that sentimonsters were involved, meaning that she could easily have missed the quick hint. Especially since most of Adrien's commands were things that were only shown to the audience. She was only there for one of them, "Adrien go to your room," and she had no reason to think that was odd behavior.
Even if she did know that he was a senti, how would she know what his amok was? Felix never tells her. He only says that the rings were precious family heirlooms + the Agreste's wedding rings. And Marinette knew nothing about Emilie's illness. She was never told that it was the same illness that Nathalie has. Marinette didn't even know that Emilie was in the basement until that final fight.
All of these things were obvious to the audience, so we just assumed that she knew, but maybe she doesn't? Because watching that play, one could reasonably assume that Adrien was a real child and Felix was a look-a-like senti made because Amelie wanted a baby, too. This is why I thought up the theory, actually, because I had the thought that they'd written it that way in case they wanted to backtrack, which made no sense. But writing it that way to confuse Marinette? That would actually be somewhat logical.
I could be totally wrong, but maybe we're all blaming her for something she doesn't actually know. At the very least, the setup for her not knowing is there. Has it actually been confirmed that she knows?
#ml writing salt#ml writing critical#ml season 5 salt#ml representation#we watched the mayor chloe episodes too but had nothing to say#They're boring chloe bashing and we're both tired of it#suffering through a rewatch of season 5 for love of my so
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#and also blackmail authority figures trying to get in his way of his investigations lol
lol but who is he blackmailing??
The Mayor. :D
#replies#there's a reason marinette can get away with openly calling chloe shit and suffering little to no consequences#she doesnt know it but tom dug up dirt on the mayor using nooroo#lol. lmao even.
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i call this the “fast and furious” effect
#miraculous ladybug#ml season 5#ml collusion#ml spoilers#mlb#lila rossi#chloe bourgeois#what kind of bullshit is this??#lila living a double life and having a whole evil lair and tools to aid in her quest for vengeance#and a CHILD becoming the mayor of paris#like ????
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#this is pretty much fucked up#I mean#why isn't anyone complaining about a 15 years old being the mayor??#chloe bourgeois#miraculous ladybug#miraculous#ml#miraculous tales of ladybug and chat noir#miraculous ladybug and cat noir#mlb#miraculous ladybug spoilers#mlb s5 spoilers#miraculous spoilers#ml spoilers#ml s5 spoilers#miraculous s5#rts#miraculous season 5#ml season 5#ml s5#miraculous memes#ml memes#mlb s5#miraculous ladybug season 5 spoilers#miraculous collusion#ml collusion#collusion spoilers#collusion
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There’s been a recurring tread in Fandom Discouse(TM) or Fanwank for those who tell it like it is. And it revolves around Redemption Arcs.
These type of stories have been the most controversial on various levels for good reasons. It often comes down to how we may identify with or project onto the character in question and the discomfort it may bring.
Specifically in regards to characters that may hit too close to home. Characters who are very much perpetrators of conflict and violence rather than victims. They hurt others for their gain be they sociopathic or just apathetic to what they wrought.
Many have dealt with these precise people in their lives and will thus have very strong words to say when a character of similar attributes appears to be turning themselves around. There will be some deliberation over how “earned” it felt on a narrative level but either way, they are on a better path in life.
For these aforementioned fans among others, it’s a difficult pill to swallow… if not one they nearly choke on. In their eyes, this character is barely even human but a monster in every sense of the word. They’ve hurt characters they love. They’ve either enjoyed it or brushed it off in indifference.
Where does Chloe factor into this? Well… it fascinates me that we got a circle of fandom that advocates for a character, a female character no less, and their could’ve-been development from Mandy but crossing way more lines.
She’s the inciting incidents for nearly every Akuma in Season 1 and is almost intentional about it. While Season 2 would humanize her and show a likely source of her behavior, I have seen more characters get shit for far less and they would rarely mean the things they say or do when in a mood.
There’s also the, um, gender thing. It have especially been my and others observations that a female character is likely to have a borderline hate campaign against them for either exhibiting a trait that male characters will get a pass for or just… making a mistake.
My Adventures With Superman subverted the very long standing secret identity dynamic Clark had with Lois Lane by having the aspiring journalist put the pieces together fast.
Her reaction to Clark not being straight with her was hardly terribly welcoming, especially given her father being deceptive with her. The Fandom’s reaction was extra less welcoming and overlooked her possible complexes over liars in favor of her behavior.
So… why is Chloe somehow exempt? There are likely multiple factor but I think there's a large one that's gone underexamined.
Obviously there's the feeling of being cheated out of a redemption storyline that Season 2 seemed to kick start. Yet it's not like Season 3 just had her be mean again out of the blue. Chloe is still very much a brat even if Despair Bear, Zombizou and her Queen Bee trilogy had her take a good look at herself.
Old habits die hard. Hawk Moth just took the time in Season 3 to gradually give said habits a clean bill of health.
My observations of Fandom Culture at large leads me to feel like Chloe's case is about less what did happen and was undone but more like what seemed to be happening but didn't. Fandom loves the hypothetical. The theories, the speculation. A lot of it is very personalized even when fans come together to pitch their own takes.
As such, there's a personal investment factor in these malleable concepts that's distinct from engaging in the hardwared canon. It's a sandbox where the material you're working with can be molded into what suits you. Canon can be too often, "Here it is: take it or leave it." Fanon is more accomadating to those who might want to change things.
Bare in mind, I'm not trying to advocate for one or the other here. Fanon depends on canon, warts and all, and a Fandom can't flourish without it period. But sometimes we mistake Fanon for what should happen and ignore the innate placeholder status they have. Thus Canon is seen as an intrusion when, well, it's just the show itself.
Another reason may be because for all the grouching about redemption arcs, we've... rarely seen such backslide let alone one that sticks considerably. We've had our Majin Vegetas and Book 2 Finale!Zukos but rarely have we (outside of specific circumstances and specific mediums) had a redemption arc reverse course.
As such, many seem keen to ignore how organic the journey from Queen Bee to Miracle Queen really was. Her insistence of joining the fray with Ladybug, her tendency to shoot her mouth with a sharp tongue to boot returning more like in Stormy Weather 2, making a Bee Signal of all things.
The ground work was laid for Queen Wasp's return and the soil was beyond fertile. Thus her villain arc for Season 4 and 5 involves tripling down on her banal evil from brainstorming Marinette's fall, getting evilized intentionally and keeping Sabrina from sleeping (boy howdy, was Chloe lucky she didn't go to her dad, A police officer :P).
Now... nobody needs to like this or stop disliking what they dislike. It just would be nice if considering other perspectives and looking beyond one's expectations was encouraged.
#redemption#redemption arcs#chloe bourgeois#miraculous ladybug#miraculoustalesofladybugandcatnoir#miraculous lb#miraculous meta#mlb#mlb fandom#fanon#canon#meta analysis#fandom analysis#queen bee#vesperia#miracle queen#queen mayor#penalteam#antibug
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