#marvin the magnificent theory

[smoliboops]

*ALTRVERSE SPOILERS*

Two glimpses of one of the pages from Argentum Inanis in Void Silver!

[fanaticallyperfect]

MARVIN'S IN LONDON FELLAS

[kalcifers-blog]

So I had the idea that all of the JSE Egos get possessed by Anti at some point- but all of their possessions look and work completely differently in comparison to each other because rather it being based on what's possessing them- Anti is utilizing what they perceive as their own worst traits/the image they have of themselves (in an extremely /neg way).

It's worth mentioning that it doesn't necessarily mean that these perceptions are true or not- the only thing that necessarily matters is that the Egos themselves think that it's true.

I'm going to go through each ego, describe what their possessions are like and go into detail as to why they're like that.

Buckle in dudes this is gonna be a long one

Chase Brody:

Chase to me has the most unstable variation of the possessions. His plays on the fact that they're constantly questioning their reality and feeling like a danger to not just himself but to those around him. Right now it's unclear if Chase has been experiencing alcoholism or his unstable view of reality before Anti but I do think Chase's entire life has been nothing short of turbulent it's a constant crashing rollercoaster, with the carriages shaking uneasily and sparks flying everywhere and the only thing he's able to do is hold onto the ride and hopes he gets to the end of it unscathed. Chase's possess has ALL of this on full display- it's the closest thing to the original Anti and it's far from pretty.

Visually I think the closest thing to Chases possession is Jinx's Hallucinations in Arcane. They're made up of the faces of his lost family mocking and taunting him while everyone else can only see Chase as an extremely unstable individual with unnatural eyes

[This shot in particular with the glowing eyes is what I imagine P!Chase to be like]

Marvin The Magnificent:

Now I've already briefly shown how I imagine Marvin's possession- and if I'm being honest it's my favourite one!! Marvin would by far be the hardest Ego to possess out of all of them, he's the only one with actual knowledge on Anti and the only one with the power to fight back against him. With that I think that Anti would only be able to possess Marvin with the help of IRIS- be honest, IRIS would JUMP at the opportunity to see what effects Anti could have on an individual with magic the way Marvin does. However, Marvin's biggest flaw is definitely his arrogance and his isolation. His "trust nobody" mindset has left him cold and uncaring to others and in my opinion this is something that he doesn't do because he enjoys it- something about Marvin screams that he wants to be able to connect with others but can't at every turn and that's what is portrayed in their possession. They're cold, robotic and uncaring. Their magic has been locked away deep in their subconscious because Anti knows it's too risky to let them utilise it. They've been forced into a state that's far removed from who Marvin really is. In a way it would make sense with how much of Marvin's memories have been tampered with for god knows how long- at a certain point there's only so much of yourself you can lose before you become unrecognisable to yourself.

The inspiration for P!Marvin is Chipped Catra from She-Ra Princess of Power

JackieBoy Man:

Jackie was by far the hardest to come up with- mostly because I couldn't come up with something that narratively would make sense. But I came to the conclusion that Jackie's worst perception of himself would come from the idea that he's not a true hero and only hurts the people around him, that he's a danger or a monster. That his powers make him a threat rather than a saviour. I personally think this would be a lot more effective if Jackie was possessed after an experience that left him doubting his role as a hero- maybe he couldn't save someone or someone he was trying to save and ended up dying instead. His grief and self loathing would come together into being possessed into being a weapon.

P!Jackie is nothing short of a weapon made for destruction- something that was designed to destroy. Part of the horror would be for him to wake up from his possession, only to realise that the ones he cares about the most and the only people he has left are now afraid of him and wants nothing to do with him.

The idea for P!Jackie is Infected She-Ra from She-Ra Princess of Power

Henrik Von Schneeplestien:

Henrik was another one that took me a while to figure out but I did eventually get to it!! Henrik would come from his insecurities as a doctor, the weight of people's lives being on his shoulders day in and out would wear him down over time and the idea that he could be at fault for the deaths of many whether he could've actually saved them or not plays in his brain so much its unbearable. Henrik's possession would take form as moss- or a general depiction of something rotting, a walking contamination that he can't heal or fix and he knows he's the route problem and to keep everyone else safe he'd need to remove himself from the equation. For the most part I don't think he'd be aware of how far his corruption goes, at first he'd write it off as being unwell, overworked maybe, but he has seen the others get possessed and harmed by their own possessions and he would never let himself succumb to that. Doctors do make the worst patients after all.

The inspiration for this has came from The Corruption in The Magnus Archives and Belos from The Owl House

Jameson Jackson:

JJ's possession is the one I'm most proud of and it's the one that's the most loyal to his debut in 2017. However the way I perceive JJs possession is that he is almost the exact same. But it's not him. He's fully conscious and aware of everything around him but he's trapped in his own skin with movements that are not his own. He's forced to watch and able to do nothing when those around him drop dead by his own hand. And the worst part about all of it is that Anti is clever enough to make him continue his daily routine, to carry on as normal. To let JJ see those closest to him not notice that something is deeply and horrifyingly wrong, that the person they're interacting with and bonding with isn't who they think they are. And no one notices. And there's nothing he's able to do about it. It's a play on his fear of no one really seeing him for who is is, no one notices something's wrong because they didn't know him to begin with. The entire experience makes him think about how much he actually spent time with these people. How much of him do they actually see and how much of Anti has painted over that.

If anything I might tweak Chase or Jackie's possessions slightly because they are extremely similar to each other??? BUT part of me wants to keep the similarities between them a constant thing because I personally see them as being two sides of the same coin

JJs possession was inspired by The Stranger and The Web from The Magnus Archives

AND THATS EVERYTHING‼️‼️ FEEL FREE TO REBLOG WITH THOUGHTS AND ANY ADD-ONS YOU WANT‼️‼️

[minifruits]

Why he in the big Ben? ,':/

[septicwriters]

Hey, just had a thought. What if, at some point, we get a crash course through the ego-veres. And we see, like other ego characters that are not considered, "canon". Just like, Marvin drags Chase through the portal, and they see glimpses into other worlds. We see Robbie, S3AN, hell, maybe we even see Jack. But, we only focus on the six because those are the ones Anti is after right now. I think that would be fricking awesome!

[idkguyig]

A S K THERE.

Hey y'all I'm back sorry not come for months alrd it's almost 2 months lol I draw this and yeah it's take a lot of months cause I'm lazy :) btw yesterday I draw another try to see my second account!! @idkpearsonit which yes idk for the profile so yeah thx see ya :D

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Redraw of Marvinnn, I think I improved a tiny bit.. You guys have any theories for Marvin?

[spoopyandtired]

Current anti possession theory and how his mental manipulation works on Chase, Marvin, and the other egos.

^used this as a basis for the theory, credit to @the-moon-awake for the infographics

[appreciating-chase-brody]

So I have been pretty out of the loop when it comes to the Ego comings and goings. Last thing I saw was the Chase Video (and I swear it was not three years ago. It literally can’t be).

Point is, I just watched Anomaly Found…

YALL WHAT HAPPENED. I HAVE SO MUCH TO CATCH UP ON.

WHAT HAPPENED TO ANTI BEING JUST A LITTLE GLITCH BITCH. BRO IS HORRIFYING NOW.

[touyubesposts]

What if Marvin had cat eyes? I couldn’t possibly imagine it myself. If only I could see a picture somehow of Marvin the Magnificent the Magician with cat eyes... 👀

[kalcifers-blog]

I have an angsty jse lore theory that makes me sad to think about.

So this is going under the assumption that Marvin is the one that (accidentally) released Anti into everyone's universe and/or started the ripple effect that would be Anti's rampage.

I like to imagine that against The Magic Circle's wishes, Marvin brings it upon himself to travel through the different universes to make things right- Marvin already knows exactly who Anti's been targeting (i.e Chase) at this point so he goes directly to Chase, only its too late and this is after the events of Anomaly Found- where Chase has basically nothing left and his family has died because of Anti.

Chase immediately doesn't trust Marvin- but he has no friends or allies and nothing else to lose so there's no other real option than to see if he's right. Gradually over time, they build trust and a genuine friendship through everything that's been happening, and it's the first time Chase has felt genuinely safe in what feels like forever.

But then they come across an archive within IRIS, an archive that's not just been keeping track of Anti but of ALL the Egos, including Marvin. Which is discovered by Chase- him coming to realise that if it wasn't for Marvin his family would still be alive and his life wouldn't be the wreck that it is- and that all his intuitions about him was right (in his mind)

Marvin would desperately try to explain how it doesn't show the whole picture and how Anti's possession likely played a part in Marvin getting him to escape- or how he had no idea what would happen at the time and how hard he'd worked to fix things.

But I doubt Chase would hear him out and I'm interested to think of what would happen next in response to this (maybe Chase accidentally manages to realise what Echo meant by saying he was "special" or something)

[altr5312916195]

EgoTober Notes and Master List

Hey Gamers! So @tracobuttons has dropped the Egotober prompt list and this year, I'll be writing again. I've been writing for Egotober since it was started but in years past I only got a few out, there was no cohesive story. Last year I actually wrote every day and it got a lot more attention than I expected. Last year I had a coherent storyline, and because all stories were left on cliff hangers I'm going to continue with it during this year.

One thing that happened last year though was a lot of people asking me how my universe worked around the Septic and Iplier Egos and this post will serve as that information post.

So, here is my Egotober Masterlist and notes guide to Raspy Hill!

What Egos exist in my canon?

In the Iplier Manor: Darkiplier, Wilford Warfstache, The Jims, King of the Squirrels (Kos, prounounced cause, for short) Yancy, Google, Bing, YandereIplier (Yani, pronounced -yuh-ann-ee, for short), Annus, Heehoo, Actor!Mark (Mark Iplier), really anyone conistently seen post Markiplier TV

In the Septic House: JackieBoyMan, Henrik Von Schneeplestien, Anti, Chase, Marvin, Jameson Jackson, and Robbie.

Where do the Egos exist?

Depending on the Ego they will live full time in Raspy Hill. All of the Iplier Egos are confided to Raspy Hill because of Mark, save for Wilford and Dark who are able to leave the confines for short periods.

The Septic Egos are more of a case by case thing, for instance, Chase and Jackie live in the subdivision of Attitude City, LA (yes that Attitude City) Henrik works in LA as well, at IRIS facilites.

Marvin, Jamie, and Robbie stay in Raspy Hill due to needing its magic to survive.

What is Raspy Hill?

You know that theory that's like "if humans believe in something enough it's real" keep that in mind.

In my canon Mark and Sean do exist. While Sean is connected to the Septic Egos in more of a magic way. They need someone human to tell their stories and connected them to the normal realm. (This is where that theory comes in) Raspy Hill is their inherent home, so if Jack stops telling their stories and fans stop caring they can become confined to Raspy Hill or even disappear all together.

But the Iplier Egos are different, they are anchored to Mark Iplier. Iplier was reincarnated in our Mark, and if his spirit persists so do the Ipliers.

Eclipse, what the fuck is a Hybrid and what is the Edge?

Hybrids exist at the Edge of Raspy Hill, the Edge is exactly as it sounds. Where the dimesion of Raspy Hill drops and time ceases to exist. The Edge is it's own space in time, Annus rules this area.

Around the Edge is the foundation of Raspy Hill, which has some cracks and through these cracks comes an unfinished energy. The Egos are sustained on this energy. Sometimes things slip out and these are the Hybrids, half formed egos lost to time. They're dog like creatures covered in eyes of egos past and present. Yani started as a Hybrid and completely formed by sheer will of spirit.

If you're curious about anything else, just shoot me a message or an Ask. :)

Egotober '22 Master List

October 1 - Hoodie - JackieBoyMan (TWs: None)

October 2 - Leaves - Chase Brody (TWs:None)

October 3 - Ink - Jamesone Jackson (TWs:None)

October 4 - Grey - Jameson Jackson (TWs:Anxious thoughts)

October 5 - Water - Chase Brody (TWs: Allusions to car crash and drowning)

October 6 - Doctor - Henrik Von Schneeplestien, Antisepticeye (TWs: None)

October 7 - Peaceful - Chase Brody (TWs: Allusion to car crash)

October 8 - Key - Darkiplier (TWs:None)

October 9 - Shattered - Darkiplier (TWs: None)

October 10

October 11 - Game - Chase Brody (TWs: None)

October 12 - Metal - Henrik and Chase Brody (TWs: mentions of dissasociation, mentions of blood)

October 13 - Sky - Chase Brody (TWs: Mentions of blood, Allusion to past self harm, falling)

October 14

October 15 - Plant - Jameson Jackson, Marvin the Magnificent (TWs: None)

October 16 - Dragon - Marvin (TWs:None)

October 17 - Path - Darkiplier (TWs:None)

October 18 - Wings - Darkiplier (TWs:None)

October 19

October 20 - Alarm - Henrik, Chase Brody (TWs:Mentions of blood)

October 21 - IRIS - Henrik, Chase Brody (TWs: Mentions of blood and vomit)

October 22 - Buried - Jameson Jackson, Robbie the Zombie (TWs:None)

October 23

October 24 - Creepy - Robbie, Jameson Jackson (TWs:None)

October 25 - Magic - Marvin, Antisepticeye (TWs:Mentions of burning/being burnt, knife mention)

October 26 - Bones - Wilford Warfstache, Darkiplier (TWs:None)

October 27 - Expirement - Henrik, Chase Brody (TWs:None)

October 28 - Purple - Jamie, Robbie, Jackie (TWs: Mentions of burning/being burnt)

October 29 - Ghost - Dark, Wilford (TWs:None)

October 30 - Pumpkin - Chase Brody (TWs: Mentions of drugging)

October 31 - Happy Halloween - Chase Brody (TWs:Allusion to falling, dissasociation)

Egotober 23' Masterlist

October 1 - Cape - JackieBoyMan

October 2 - Stone - Marvin (TWs: mentions of blood)

October 3 - Drink - Chase Brody (TWs: Allusions to substance abuse)

October 4 - Happy - Chase Brody (TWs: Mentions of drugging)

October 5 - Jar - Marvin

October 6 - Pillow - Chase Brody

October 7 - Leaves - Chase Brody

October 8- Frame - Henrik Von Schneeplestien

October 9 - Antlers - Marvin

October 10 - Glitch - AntiSepticEye

October 11 - Metal - AntiSepticEye, Henrik Von Schneeplestien (TWs: Implied drugging)

October 12 - Green - AntiSepticEye

October 13 - Mirror - Darkiplier

October 14 - Time - Wilford Warfstache

October 15 - Strong - JackieBoyMan, Chase Brody

October 16 - Cards - Marvin

October 17 - Flower - Robbie the Zombie, Jameson Jackson

October 18 - Rage - Wilford Warfstache (TWs: confusion/dissasociation)

October 19 - Silver - Darkiplier, Wilford Warfstache

October 20 - Music - Wilford Warfstache

October 21 - Shadow - Marvin

October 22 - Vampire - Yani, Bingiplier

October 23 - Web - Darkiplier, Wilford Warfstache, Mark Iplier

October 24 - Fire - The House

October 25 - Cauldron - Marvin

October 26 - Werewolf - Bingiplier, Yani

October 27 - Orange - Darkiplier

October 28 - Ghost - Wilford Warfstache

October 29 - Fright - AntiSepticEye (TWs: Mild body horror, blood, religious allusions)

October 30 - Witch - Marvin (TWs: Allusion of gore)

October 31 - Happy Halloween (TWs: Blood)

Egotober '24 Masterlist

October 1 - Puppet - AntiSepticEye, Henrik Von Schneeplestien, Marvin, JackieBoyMan

October 2 - Bird - Darkiplier, Marvin, AntiSepticEye

October 3 - Jewel - Marvin, AntiSepticEye, JackieBoy-Man

October 4 - Fluffy - Dark, Wilford Warfstache, Yani, Bing, Chase Brody

October 5 - Calm - Dark, Yani, Chase Brody, Wilford Warfstache, Bingiplier

October 6 - Bubbles - Marvin, AntiSepticEye, JackieBoy-Man, Darkiplkier, Kos

October 7 - Power - Marvin, JackieBoy Man, Dark, AntiSepticEye, Kos

October 8 - Skateboard - Chase Brody, Bing, Yani, Wilford Warfstache

October 9 - Red - AntiSepticEye, Dark, Marvin, JackieBoy-Man

October 10 - Virus - AntiSepticEye, Chase Brody, Marvin, Henrik Von Schneeplestien

October 11 - Book - Marvin, Henrik Von Schneeplestien, JackieBoy Man

October 12 - Portal - Marvin, Henrik Von Schneeplestien, JackieBoy Man, Darkiplier, AntiSepticEye

October 13 - Clock work - Dark, Wilford Warfstache, Y/N

October 14 - Blue - Dark, Damien, Celine, Y/N

October 15 - Scarecrow - Yani, Wilford, Bing, Chase Brody, Damien, JackieBoy-Man, Henrik Von Schneeplestien

October 16 - Mask - JackieBoy Man, AntiSepticEye, Marvin

October 17 - Inky - Jameson Jackson, AntiSepticEye, Marvin

October 18 - Yellow - Bing, Yani, Dark, Wilford, Google

October 19 - Antique - Dark, Wilford

October 20 - Grim Reaper - AntiSepticEye

October 21 - Potion - Marvin, Chase Brody, Henrik, Damien

October 22 - Haunted - Chase Brody, AntiSepticEye

October 23 - Eyeballs - AntiSepticEye, Marvin, Chase Brody, JackieBoy Man, Henrik Von Schneeplestien

October 24 - Demon - AntiSepticEye, Henrik, Damien, Marvin, Kos

October 25 - Grave - AntiSepticEye, Marvin, JackieBoy-Man

October 26 - Spell - Marvin, Jameson, AntiSepticEye

October 27 - Ghoul - AntiSepticEye, Marvin, Henrik Von Schneeplestien, Dark, Kos

October 28 - Creepy - AntiSepticEye, Marvin, Dark, Wilford, Yani

October 29 - Mummy - Yani, Dark, Robbie, Jameson

October 30 - Purple - Robbie, Jameson

October 31 - Happy Halloween - AntiSepticEye, Marvin, JackieBoy Man, Dark, Kos

[gaymingartist]

Marvin the Magnificent

Alternate versions and Void Silver spoilers under cut

There is a warning before the spoilers start

(Void Silver spoilers below)

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I really enjoyed drawing Marvin! I put my own spin on his hair because I have a theory that his hair will turn greener the more we get into the comics! So, this is like what I think Marvin may look like in the official #1 or #2! I have a couple theories though, so I may draw his hair differently in the future

I loved the cover that was drawn by Suzi Blake and kind of based this drawing on it! I’ll definitely be doing a lot more art of Marvin and I’ll probably draw Jackie sometime soon. Spoilers will be tagged on all of those like it is on here!

[alexthen3rd]

Jackieboyman said "Like a Boss"

IT'S HERE!!!

DHSHDHSJSHSBSKAKSNSNAKAKAHSNSJSJS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@therealjacksepticeye

[cheyj05]

Marvin is *not* a member of IRIS

 There’s very few solid conclusions you can come to from the new video only guesswork but here’s one that I’m pretty sure of.  “But Chey!” you may ask “how can you be so sure? We didn’t even see Marvin in the newest video!”. That is a good question and one I will answer here today!

   First of all let’s establish one thing very quickly, WTCHR is most likely before all of the other videos chronologically, this is not a sure fact, but it would make sense if it were, so we’re going to be acting like it is a sure fact in this theory.

  That would mean WTCHR is before Argentum Inanis. In WTCHR it is said that IRIS has an Antimatter generator. In Argentum Inanis, the book says IRIS = ANTMATTER. This is where my theory comes in. 

 You see, in the book there seems to be two different writings.

 One written carefully and neatly and another in big dark strokes oftentimes scribbled in the corner and sometimes seemly having blacked out some words of the original text. They are visibly different handwriting so they’re not by the same person. The neat writing is probably the author of the book, that would only make sense considering it’s the majority of the text. The dark writing is probably Marvin’s notes. Scribbling things he knows but the book doesn’t say into the corners and crossing out stuff that isn’t true/irrelevant. He even underlined Argentum Inanis! That meaning that Marvin was the person who wrote IRIS = ANTIMATTER.

 But see, that begs the question; if Marvin were a member of IRIS, why would he write that? As a member of IRIS he would know all about the Antimatter generator, wouldn’t he? So why would he need to note down that IRIS = ANTIMATTER? Also the note feels a bit...impersonal. Like he doesn’t IRIS personally. That’s not really founded on anything, it’s just a vibe.

  Besides Marvin comes across as someone searching for information but getting way more than he bargained for in Argentum Inanis. If Anti was really created by IRIS as we’ve theorized, wouldn’t he know? Honestly it seems like: IRIS made an Antimatter generator, something went wrong and Anti happened, Marvin caught wind of some shit going on so decided to investigate, and Marvin gets in over his head and gets possessed. 

  The dark notes *could* be written by someone other than Marvin. Maybe by Marvin’s teacher or predecessor who got murked so Mavin decided to take up the mantle. We have no proof this person exists so let’s just assume the notes are Marvin’s.

   In conclusion, Marvin is not a member of IRIS, he’s just someone who got more than he bargained for.

[lildevyl]

Okay, @ jse community and everyone in the JSE Ego Hell Theorist Hall Discord, I’m going to need all of you Creative Buddies, Mutuals, and Fiends help.  So, I’m still working on my JJ Theory I have no idea when that’s going to be up (still working on how to start the damn theory and put all the pieces together).  But with Jack saying that Jackieboy Man is the next Ego he’s going to be doing a project on and with everyone spotting something with either JBM or Marvin, I want to put a theory together.

Now, I’m not going to lie, this theory has been going around my head since I saw a few posts from @septic-dr-schneep, @isa-ghost, @fear-is-nameless and few others as well.  So, what I’m asking everyone b/c there is going to be a lot of videos that I need to watch!  And possibly a ton and half of posts to go through as well.  Is I need any and all videos and/or posts of any and I do mean any sightings of Jackieboy Man and Marvin.

The reason why (and this is going to be going into my theory), is I think they’ve been right in front of us the whole time.  Don’t believe me?  The perfect  example I can give is there is a Wiki with the JSE Egos and in one of the post with JBM the video The Scariest Fun: Richie’s Plank Experience VR it’s Jackie out of costume!

Now, this might be my comic/superhero fan girl coming out, but if that video proves to be Jackie out of costume then how many others times were we seeing the other Egos out of their costumes?

If anyone would like to participate any and all credit will be given to you and I will link and any all posts, videos and/or photos that you might fine!

Thank You!  HAPPY THEORIZING!!!!!