#jse ego theory

[smoliboops]

*ALTRVERSE SPOILERS*

Two glimpses of one of the pages from Argentum Inanis in Void Silver!

[kalcifers-blog]

So I had the idea that all of the JSE Egos get possessed by Anti at some point- but all of their possessions look and work completely differently in comparison to each other because rather it being based on what's possessing them- Anti is utilizing what they perceive as their own worst traits/the image they have of themselves (in an extremely /neg way).

It's worth mentioning that it doesn't necessarily mean that these perceptions are true or not- the only thing that necessarily matters is that the Egos themselves think that it's true.

I'm going to go through each ego, describe what their possessions are like and go into detail as to why they're like that.

Buckle in dudes this is gonna be a long one

Chase Brody:

Chase to me has the most unstable variation of the possessions. His plays on the fact that they're constantly questioning their reality and feeling like a danger to not just himself but to those around him. Right now it's unclear if Chase has been experiencing alcoholism or his unstable view of reality before Anti but I do think Chase's entire life has been nothing short of turbulent it's a constant crashing rollercoaster, with the carriages shaking uneasily and sparks flying everywhere and the only thing he's able to do is hold onto the ride and hopes he gets to the end of it unscathed. Chase's possess has ALL of this on full display- it's the closest thing to the original Anti and it's far from pretty.

Visually I think the closest thing to Chases possession is Jinx's Hallucinations in Arcane. They're made up of the faces of his lost family mocking and taunting him while everyone else can only see Chase as an extremely unstable individual with unnatural eyes

[This shot in particular with the glowing eyes is what I imagine P!Chase to be like]

Marvin The Magnificent:

Now I've already briefly shown how I imagine Marvin's possession- and if I'm being honest it's my favourite one!! Marvin would by far be the hardest Ego to possess out of all of them, he's the only one with actual knowledge on Anti and the only one with the power to fight back against him. With that I think that Anti would only be able to possess Marvin with the help of IRIS- be honest, IRIS would JUMP at the opportunity to see what effects Anti could have on an individual with magic the way Marvin does. However, Marvin's biggest flaw is definitely his arrogance and his isolation. His "trust nobody" mindset has left him cold and uncaring to others and in my opinion this is something that he doesn't do because he enjoys it- something about Marvin screams that he wants to be able to connect with others but can't at every turn and that's what is portrayed in their possession. They're cold, robotic and uncaring. Their magic has been locked away deep in their subconscious because Anti knows it's too risky to let them utilise it. They've been forced into a state that's far removed from who Marvin really is. In a way it would make sense with how much of Marvin's memories have been tampered with for god knows how long- at a certain point there's only so much of yourself you can lose before you become unrecognisable to yourself.

The inspiration for P!Marvin is Chipped Catra from She-Ra Princess of Power

JackieBoy Man:

Jackie was by far the hardest to come up with- mostly because I couldn't come up with something that narratively would make sense. But I came to the conclusion that Jackie's worst perception of himself would come from the idea that he's not a true hero and only hurts the people around him, that he's a danger or a monster. That his powers make him a threat rather than a saviour. I personally think this would be a lot more effective if Jackie was possessed after an experience that left him doubting his role as a hero- maybe he couldn't save someone or someone he was trying to save and ended up dying instead. His grief and self loathing would come together into being possessed into being a weapon.

P!Jackie is nothing short of a weapon made for destruction- something that was designed to destroy. Part of the horror would be for him to wake up from his possession, only to realise that the ones he cares about the most and the only people he has left are now afraid of him and wants nothing to do with him.

The idea for P!Jackie is Infected She-Ra from She-Ra Princess of Power

Henrik Von Schneeplestien:

Henrik was another one that took me a while to figure out but I did eventually get to it!! Henrik would come from his insecurities as a doctor, the weight of people's lives being on his shoulders day in and out would wear him down over time and the idea that he could be at fault for the deaths of many whether he could've actually saved them or not plays in his brain so much its unbearable. Henrik's possession would take form as moss- or a general depiction of something rotting, a walking contamination that he can't heal or fix and he knows he's the route problem and to keep everyone else safe he'd need to remove himself from the equation. For the most part I don't think he'd be aware of how far his corruption goes, at first he'd write it off as being unwell, overworked maybe, but he has seen the others get possessed and harmed by their own possessions and he would never let himself succumb to that. Doctors do make the worst patients after all.

The inspiration for this has came from The Corruption in The Magnus Archives and Belos from The Owl House

Jameson Jackson:

JJ's possession is the one I'm most proud of and it's the one that's the most loyal to his debut in 2017. However the way I perceive JJs possession is that he is almost the exact same. But it's not him. He's fully conscious and aware of everything around him but he's trapped in his own skin with movements that are not his own. He's forced to watch and able to do nothing when those around him drop dead by his own hand. And the worst part about all of it is that Anti is clever enough to make him continue his daily routine, to carry on as normal. To let JJ see those closest to him not notice that something is deeply and horrifyingly wrong, that the person they're interacting with and bonding with isn't who they think they are. And no one notices. And there's nothing he's able to do about it. It's a play on his fear of no one really seeing him for who is is, no one notices something's wrong because they didn't know him to begin with. The entire experience makes him think about how much he actually spent time with these people. How much of him do they actually see and how much of Anti has painted over that.

If anything I might tweak Chase or Jackie's possessions slightly because they are extremely similar to each other??? BUT part of me wants to keep the similarities between them a constant thing because I personally see them as being two sides of the same coin

JJs possession was inspired by The Stranger and The Web from The Magnus Archives

AND THATS EVERYTHING‼️‼️ FEEL FREE TO REBLOG WITH THOUGHTS AND ANY ADD-ONS YOU WANT‼️‼️

[all-for-geek]

I'm probably not the first, but I think I cracked ALTR 5914. Slight spoiler for the IRIS video

Alright so ALTR 114209 is Anti and the numbers match to his name. While the doctor says it as 11-4-2-0-9, when broken into 1-14-20-9, the numbers match the letters A-N-T-I. Assuming that the ALTR designations all work the same, we can use this to discover what 5914 is. There are two options to break the numbers up: 5-9-1-4 and 5-9-14. The first gives us E-I-A-D which doesn't make a lot of sense. The second gives us E-I-N. As in Einstein. The guy who developed the theory of relativity. Which is based heavily in theoretical time travel.

Guys I think it's just a fun code.

[egoresearch]

Liking a bunch of everyone else's theory posts. I started theorizing in 2019 but deleted all of it in late 2020 for storage purposes. Now I'm starting from scratch and saving it on a drive rather than my computer. Most of my theory will come from videos. However, with that being said, I'll probably be looking at several theories to form my own ideas and bounce my ideas off of. To the people who really dug in and did all of your research without the help of others, credit to you!!!

[fanaticallyperfect]

MARVIN'S IN LONDON FELLAS

[wafflezcourtney]

[hopefulleafva]

Altrverse ramblings because I’ve got ego brainrot something fierce (Altrverse spoilers below cut)

I know there’s been a lot of lore changes since the 2016/2017 era egos so not sure if this will even be relevant but tbh just wanna get my thoughts down

I know it’s been pointed out before but I keep thinking about the “oh shit” knowing look the twins give each other when the man all in black is mentioned.

It makes me wonder if the whole “Anti gets more powerful the more people talk about him/say his name” thing from the early ego stuff is still canon and is the whole reason the twins decide to erase everyone’s memory and cover up the murder. Like if they have even a small inkling of how Anti operates maybe this is their attempt to kill the potential of people talking about him and making him more powerful. And is Marvin remembering what happened and investigating going to wind up just feeding into Anti’s power and making things worse??

I had kind of wondered back when I first watched Anomaly Found if that’s the reason Anti was called ALTR 114209 by IRIS, as a way of getting around saying his name. But then again we know other ALTRs go by numbers so maybe that’s not the case at all.

Tbh it’s also entirely possible that bit of Anti lore has been dropped entirely with new Red Anti™️ and is no longer relevant, but just something I’ve been thinking about.

[antxseptxceye]

those questions immediately reminded me of the chase video 👀

[septicwriters]

Hey, just had a thought. What if, at some point, we get a crash course through the ego-veres. And we see, like other ego characters that are not considered, "canon". Just like, Marvin drags Chase through the portal, and they see glimpses into other worlds. We see Robbie, S3AN, hell, maybe we even see Jack. But, we only focus on the six because those are the ones Anti is after right now. I think that would be fricking awesome!

[chaos-in-elysium]

I got inspired for the first time in months

Hello Chase

[thenormalme]

HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!

Aaahhhhh one for each ego?!?

Also that clearly says SUBJECTS in the glitch between frames

[smoliboops]

Idk if anyone pointed this out, but the integration setup reminded me heavily of the interview setup in part 4 of stories untold like

[kalcifers-blog]

MY IDEAS REGARDING ANTISEPTICEYE!!

Okay straight off the bat- I think Anti has never been human, I think whatever Anti is predates any human currently alive and possibly any human being that existed before then too. Whatever Anti is, it has existed for far longer than any human being could ever feasibly comprehend. But

I don't think they're a "God" or a "Demon" either. I think any terms humans have come up with in the past would only diminish the true scale of whatever Anti truly is. And to truly appreciate what Anti is, is to accept that you'll never fully understand. Whatever goal he might have is quite frankly incomprehensible to humans- it's like an Ant trying to figure out why a human would be mowing a lawn or what a lawnmower even is. All the Ant sees is the violent, gigantic machine beyond anything it's ever seen, tearing apart its home and its colony.

I feel like that's the point of Anti, we all love to theorize and draw meaning to things all the time, because it's human nature to want to know- I think Anti going against that very instinct is what makes him so terrifying. Anti needs us to pay attention, to keep feeding into him to continue to watch to see what he does next- it's like he's trying to get us to find a solution to the problem, knowing that we'll never find it because there never was one to begin with.

I feel as though Anti sticks in like an embedded thorn. One that's dug in so deep under the skin that the top layer has healed over- but the thorn is still there, maddeningly scratching away at your insides as you desperately try to figure out what's wrong. Figuring out the solution to your problem is to tear it out of you.

That's how I imagine Anti is to Chase. A thorn deep inside a long healed wound, only there to twist and pry into him, a sick reminder of the wound long after it's healed.

In my mind- the only real way to stop Antisepticeye realistically within The IRIS Project, is to accept that you never will.

[all-for-geek]

Guys guys guys guys guys what if Jackieboyman and Jack are the same person? Like in universe Jack is just the human identity of Jackieboyman. What if that's why he's MIA? Because he's been in a coma.

[wishthefish916]

Okay so uhhh

I could be wrong about this but the numbers 5914 are kinda relevant?

So,, after a lot of playing around with codes and cyphers and getting fucken nowhere I tried looking into important dates. As it so turns out, the biggest days for all the mentioned egos during mayhem 2018 fall on those days

May 5th with The Doctor Is Back (Henrik)

May 9th with Try Not To Fall Asleep (Marvin and JJ)

May 14 with Dark Silence (Chase)

Still no fucking clue how this pertains to anything, but it’s cool that’s a thing

[chaosmumbles]

Redraw of Marvinnn, I think I improved a tiny bit.. You guys have any theories for Marvin?