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[twopoppies]

Hi, love. Wow. That really similar to so much of what we think has happened with Harry and Louis, as well as what we’ve heard from so many formerly closeted celebrities. It’s disgusting. Thank you so much for sharing and yes, come back and share anything else you remember!

[skepticalarrie]

Do you feel that majority of Louis’ fans believe that he is the dad?

I see mixed opinions, some think we, larries, are minority, some think ppl who believe the narrative just have louder voices. What I noticed on instagram that most of larrie accounts avoid this topic cause of the hate they get, and since Louis made larrie denials and praised his son, ppl who believe him they think Louis gave the green light to send hate towards larries.

And sensitive questions, do you think we larries are welcomed in this fandom by Louis (despite his larrie denials)? Does Louis need and want us to stay?

Hi, anon! Sorry, it took forever to answer this! But I wanted to address this one ask before stepping back from the topic for a while. (thank you to everyone who always sends me asks and discussions about babygate for understanding!)

IMO it’s both. I do believe the majority think Louis is Freddie’s biological father, and I also think this majority is unbelievably louder than us. You made some great points that I agree with. I think those of us who question the narrative are often 1) older fans who are more tired of the day-to-day interactions and follow-ups, and 2) somewhat silenced because of the overwhelming hate we receive. So I assume this topic is probably avoided or only discussed privately in group chats, anonymous accounts, or places like tumblr, where we can stay in our bubble more easily. That’s why the other side is so much louder. I do think there are still a lot of us who don’t believe the narrative, but it's nothing compared to when this all started. Back then, it felt like no one believed it. Over the years, Louis has done a lot to rebrand and embed the idea into fans’ minds that Freddie is his carbon copy and that he’s a devoted father. I think these are the two key pillars that make people not only believe he’s Freddie’s father but also become deeply attached to their relationship, especially since it’s been so publicly shared.

They went from something super shady and avoided to placing it front and center, making the father-son dynamic likeable and even endearing to A LOT of fans. That’s why I think the majority now believe it… honestly, being a father has become a huge part of Louis’ persona, and it’s something his fans love. If you look at comments and stuff like that, people are obsessed with him and Freddie, especially after the documentary. It’s crazy how it changed.

As for your second question, ugh… I’m honestly not sure. I do go back and forth on it a lot. It feels very hypocritical of him to act like he doesn’t want us here after all the fan service and encouragement he gave us regarding babygate and larry discussions. Especially since a huge part of his fanbase seems to be accepting very accepting of larry. It feels like a betrayal every time he encourages the hate toward us, an awful look on him.

[awesomefringey]

Can I have a bit of a whinge? I feel like younger Louis used to be a lot more open-minded and less preoccupied with looking cool. At least publicly. Now he is so concerned with how he comes across and can be a bit of a snob. This isn't just about the wmyb quote, that's just what prompted this message. Anyway, I know it sort of comes with the territory of the genre of music he's doing but I feel like aren't you supposed to give less fucks as you get older and not get more concerned with perception?

I totally hear you. 🫶 For someone who wants to reassure everyone he doesn’t give a fuck about what people think of him (let’s tattoo an anarchy symbol on the middle finger because you’re so bad ass), Louis does lash out in ways that make you think, he cares too much.

I understand he wants to get rid of his soft boyband image in order to be taken seriously in the alternative rock world but the only people who listen to him say these things are his fans who are mostly (and obvs there are people who are very dismissive about his 1D days) in love with the entire journey and not just the recent 2000s rock/black&red tinted visuals and stoner image.

However, we don’t know what he had to face BTS, what people have put in his way before he was able to put out WALLS, it took him years to find solid ground to put out that album, how people he probably looks up to and wants to impress have treated him because of WMYB, how he was mocked for years with no real outlet to prove he is more than what Simon Cowell dressed him in and the hair crimes Lou Teasdale has committed.

Do I think he could handle his anger more eloquently, could think his answers more through, be more humble at times? Absolutely. (And more often than not he does.)

But do I also see that there’s more that meets the eye and not everything Louis says or does is an act against us or our beliefs? Yes! It’s as always, a little bit more complex.

In reference to this.

[seasurfacefullofclouds1]

Louis has suffered a lot during his life - in all aspects - I don't know where he gets strength from but I really admire him.

He has. I don’t have his disposition, but his strength is an inspiration and comfort to me.

Louis can’t escape being a celebrity, but his life really is insane. Everything he does and says publicly gets magnified, and parsed— not only by fans, but by every tabloid and every industry critic who wants to bring him down. He doesn’t get a moment to grieve privately. Louis bans questions about personal tragedies but they ask anyway, and then they paint him as the bad guy for getting angry.

And yes, if we think about it, the number of people who prey on his personal tragedies and insecurities is enormous. People with visibility and influence try their best to fuck with his head— all because of power and money. And for some fans, because of their malice. This has been going on for seven years. They didn’t let up the day that Johannah died. They didn’t let up when Fizzy died. On and on and on, the relentless attacks, the syndicated gossip stories, the bad PR, the working class caricatures and the deliberately misleading photos and captions.

How does he do it? How does Louis compartmentalize and let it go? How does he smile and say, “I respect them, we have different points of view, I don’t want to go down that road”? This is his career, his life, his family. How does he forgive? How does he rise in spite of everything, and — as he said so eloquently, “When you love someone, and they let you go?” How does he say, “Just because it didn’t work, doesn’t mean it’s meaningless to me”?

His heart and his capacity for love, his intelligence, his stubborn will to focus on himself and not on others. His nature to question and better himself, rather than to criticize other people. I don’t know where this strength comes from.

[larryslaurels]

🎬‼️AOTV Spoilers‼️ babygate free version

OK, I’m going to try organizing my scrambled ADHD brain thoughts on AOTV as several others have done here.

First off, let’s talk about the One Direction nostalgia… FUCK. That killed me. I know it sounds fucking dramatic, but for so many of us having Zayn leave, babygate, and then the break back-to-back was just like blow after blow. I honestly felt some weird kind of grief response as I watching, my heart just broke for Louis and for all of us over again. I realized how NOT over them breaking up I am, but I also am happy it happened. I can’t imagine where they would all be if they were forced to continue down the path they were put on.

I appreciate how honest he was about his grief. We knew, but like, it was never said as clearly as it was in the film just how dark of a space he was in. Hearing about Jay, and everything she was to him again, just wow. What an incredible woman she was. Also Lottie saying they did all they could to help Fizzy but ultimately they failed, that was brutal. Bless them all, they are so strong.

I said this in a separate post, but I feel like those moments that they chose to show H were so so beautiful and important. Louis definitely picked a moment where H was just looking so perfectly feminine and beautiful and himself. Louis is nothing but proud of his person.

I found it hilarious that both Liam and Niall were in it, like fully spent time with him and filmed for this doc. I know they were playing at similar festivals, so it was convenient, but how blatant to have nothing with Harry post one direction, too obvi in my opinion haha.

There was a moment and god I wish I could remember it better, but he mentions how during his struggle with getting back on stage and his confidence, he says he feels like he’s two different people and he struggles to combine and reconcile those two parts of him. I think this was deliberate and obviously much much more layered than just what was shown and I can’t wait to watch that bit again.

Obviously so many good tour moments, except when they talk to fans. I also hate that shit and cringe and I don’t know why they talked to the people they did. The rainbows everywhere was hilarious, because it was clear how they are present EVERYWHERE, no matter which country they are in. If I was in the GP and didn’t know about Louis, I would be hella confused by that, especially because it is just *not mentioned*. I’m OK with that, if Louis really wanted to deny his sexuality again right there, he could have commented on being ONLY a straight ally to all of these queer fans, but chose not to. INCH-resting to say the least.

One thing I can say throughout the entire film is that I do feel like 90% of it is authentic and real and Louis. I feel like we’ve seen glimpses of him because of tour, but even then, he’s in full performance mode. So seeing so much footage of him in his personal and private spaces was wild, something we haven’t seen a long time. That alone was worth it for me to watch the movie and I’d watch it over and over again.

[kiwikiwiandkiwi]

This is depressing Flávia 😭 thank you

lol sorry it was made to be funny.

the thing is I don’t get how people can read that article and actually believe that’s who louis is. one) it’s a printed interview, everything can be edited, distorted or taken out of context even if it has the approval of his team. and two) people love to think they are besties with louis when in reality we don’t really know anything about his private life, I’d say we get to see maybe 2% of his life and yet everything we see is made for us to see.

we can tell he is a good person by the way he acts around his fans, about how people always have good things to say about him, the way he is always taking smaller bands under his wings because he knows how hard and fucked up the music industry is.

I saw a tiktok totally unrelated to louis (it was about the beef between selena/haley/kylie) and the person was saying how maybe if you always have to come online to apologize for something you did and said, maybe there’s some truth to it and to people’s reaction to your behavior, and when you think about louis, he is not this person at all, I do believe he is a genuine good person who is just in a very unique situation.

Idk why that’s the way we are supposed to perceive him, maybe it’s to show he is the opposite of harry, maybe it’s to distance himself from the boyband image, maybe it’s to be accepted by the indie rock/indie pop/pop punk market, maybe it’s all of these things, but there’s so much more to louis than just smoking and drinking and partying. was he ever so drunk he wasn’t able to perform? no. was he ever so high he made some stupid comment or embarrassed himself in front of the cameras that he had to apologize for it? no. so stop putting this against louis and start acknowledging the good things we’ve actually seen him do, because thats who he is!!!! and if you are unhappy just leave!!!!

[sonja7369]

Sorry, I didn’t want to come off as rude. I just wanted to make sure I read your posts correctly because I have a hard time telling if something is sarcasm or if it’s meant for fun or if there’s context hidden between the lines and so on. I’ve misread people’s post as genuinely believing before when in reality they just shipped for fun or because the thought two people would be cute together.

Fair enough! Sarcasm is very hard to pick up on in written form that's for sure.

My space is 100% Larry - no shipping involved. I believe the guys are still closeted as they were in 1D and with stunts involved their situation is very complex.

I'm not waiting for the big Coming Out - that part of it is their business completely - I'm just here to support their art while spreading the word that binding human beings' images along with their art isn't right. There's still a huge number of people who have no idea about this part of the business and believe every word they read in the tabloids. I think it's time for a new look at PR strategies in the entertainment industry.

[mirrorhouse]

i need daniel to be overcompensating for his insecurities so bad. 100 times more cocky and rude and aggressive and insensitive than he was as a human, falling back into old dangerous habits and vices, not just because now he has new energy and power and wealth to flaunt but because it's ALL he has, and he needs to cling onto it. play it up and revel in it so no one sees that underneath, he feels like a botched fledgling in the body of a sick, faded old man who maybe has no real idea why he was even made. that armand might think he failed in making him. that his maker didn't even really want him.

[cuntylouis]

INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE 1.06 | 2.07 • An apt metaphor. I always took you for a dog, Lestat.

[oldwitchsleep]

grasping his slutty little waist and shaking him around like a ragdoll

[twopoppies]

Not the indie/marketed wrong anon but I've been listening to indie and alt rock for over 20yrs now and the issue is not how he acts on stage. I do not know a single indie/alt fan who cares about the sexuality of an artist.

BUT many of my male friends do like Louis music but they refuse to go to his concerts, the reason is the obsessive fan behavior. The camping, queueing, not leaving barricade for hours (was negatively talked at festivals), screaming etc. The way the fans act has a negative impact on ppl who are more casual fans/gp. In my personal opinion, if he wants the indie/alt fans the music alone isn't enough, they need to find a way to stop the excessive fan behavior.

And they do these things at other artists too now. I've been last year to Inhaler and ppl in Louis merch camped overnight in front of the venue. The venue was suitable for 700 ppl. Same problem with Giant Rooks and their longtime fans are very pissed. I go to a lot of concert in the indie/alt scene and I have to say, Louis fan reputation is very bad. Ppl like him but not the fans and therefore don't go to his concerts.

Oh, that’s super interesting to hear. I agree that both Louis and Harry fans can be really awful when it comes to concert etiquette. But I never thought about it in terms of how it affects other bands and their fans. Thanks for sharing your perspective.

LTHQ, if you’re snooping, here’s some interesting info…

[skepticalarrie]

In the doc Louis shares a story about going to 1d producers to work on his voice to get more solos when 1d was starting and the producers saying yeah and helping him but then when he got the actual song they gave his solo to Harry and thats how he find out. Imagine how that can affect your self esteem. I am glad he was able to see the bright side and not become bitter or hate the other boys for it.

The way Louis was abused in the early days of the band is mindblowing, the way we saw him getting stiff on stage and going to a really dark place in his mind.... fucking hell.

It's lovely that he's comfortable enough to share part of it with us now but I don't think we as fans will ever be able to fully comprehend everything that went down behind the scenes. It could have gone so wrong. And the way I see it, the other boys in the band didn't have anything to do with it because they obviously recorded everything individually, so it was more about the people making the decisions. But it's incredible how they really managed to stick together and support each other and stay grounded even though each of them was going through completely different experiences and at the same time going through the exact same thing?! Insane!

[awesomefringey]

i’ve never seen a bad and nasty recipe from people about H&L behavior, not even a fake one. we love and stan the right celebs don’t we!

This!

The TPWK brand stems from an honest place of gratitude and kindness. People who worked with Harry all swoon over him and I love it so much for him.

And with Louis it’s even more fascinating because he’s much more closed off and I can imagine he doesn’t let many people in and he’s got such a close-knit circle. (which Harry does too.) But those who are part of it, are the nicest and most down to earth people who praise the floor Louis walks on. It really reflects well on Louis. And people who worked with him all get starry-eyed. No bad word about him ever.

They prove that one can be successful in the entertainment industry without becoming an ass or creating a toxic work environment. They deserve the world!

[funsizedshark]

waiting for godot, samuel beckett // interview with the vampire, s2ep5, "don't be afraid, just start the tape"

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[so-idialed-9]

Louis choosing to share photos of him in the "queer wonderland" Scissors tent IN HIS IG from Glastonbury has me very emotional tbh 😭

It has talks and workshops about queer vulnerability and other topics, hair salon, beer garden with pool table, secret nightclub, and DJs. It also includes framed photos of queer icons ✨️ and if this isn't all the most Louis Tomlinson RBB/SBB shit I've ever heard....

I see Elton, anyone recognize these other icons?

"A new queer venue for the park, Glastonbury Festival 2024" and here is Louis and his rainbow 🌈 outfit going to the Park

Hustlers and Mermaids - I need someone to write a fanfiction with this title please

IG photos from Louis

TikTok tour of Scissors

Daily Mail article

[kiwikiwiandkiwi]

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