#lorrie kim

[dinarosie]

Hey there,

I just wanted to say I appreciate what you have been writing about Snape and the leveled approach you have towards his character. It’s given many different perspectives I haven’t considered, and thank you for the care you have taken in writing out your points. I look forward to reading more :).

I wanted to add some thoughts to the convo. I think he is, and has always been difficult to appreciate for people because of his more reprehensible behavior and his more frequent appearance/impact on the plot of the story. His poor qualities are more present and readily accessible— while also being limited to the narrative perspective of the story giving glimpses of him. It’s an uncanny valley of incomplete presence.

Personally, I find it sad when his character isn’t considered humanely because his incredibly flawed nature makes him one of the most realistic characters in the series (imo)— and even as a kid I appreciated that. His bitterness and shortcomings in the way he would react to certain situations is something we can all be guilty of through out our lives, no one’s a saint, but he still tried to correct the error how he was capable of doing so with where he was in his life. That messy journey to doing better or correcting a wrong is real. Being a hot mess while you try to do it over time is real. I think the reality of how awful our behavior and flawed our choices can be, in various stages of life and in times of good intentions, is uncomfortable to recognize. As a result, it’s easier to aggrandize his entire character to awful rather than be confronted with how we have very much faulted and erred through out our lives— at times egregiously— and be able to appreciate the journey to redemption and betterment, no matter how messy.

That may be off base, but wanted to share.

Again. Thank you so much for sharing all of your thoughts. 💕

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Thank you so much for your thoughtful message! 💖

It’s incredibly rewarding to hear that the effort I put into exploring Snape’s character resonates and brings new perspectives to the table. I really appreciate that you took the time to reflect on his complexity in such a nuanced way.

Your points remind me of Laurie Kim’s analysis of Snape, which perfectly captures why his character has such a lasting impact. She describes Snape as “painfully human,” noting how he is neither purely good nor purely evil but rather someone who navigates life’s challenges with a mix of failures and successes. In her book Snape: A Definitive Reading, she writes, “Snape’s journey is compelling precisely because it is so raw and imperfect. He stumbles, holds grudges, and carries deep scars—yet ultimately strives to overcome his worst qualities. His story shows that redemption isn’t a clean process; it’s messy, uncomfortable, and incomplete.” This nuanced view really resonates with why many fans, myself included, find him relatable despite (and even because of) his flaws.

Thank you again for sharing your thoughts! It’s these kinds of reflections that make discussing Snape’s character so meaningful, and I’m grateful for the opportunity to explore it more deeply.

[dinxieyinxie]

look what I found in my local bookshop 👁️👁️

this is a pretty hefty book im ngl, well at least for me it is as someone who don't read much lol

i didn't know there was an actual analysis book for snape so im going in blind!

[bookwormangie]

I’ve just recently started reading Snape: The Definitive Analysis of Hogwarts’s Mysterious Potions Master by Lorrie Kim, and I’m really enjoying it so far! It’s offering some great insights into Snape’s character.

While looking into more character analyses, I came across Dumbledore: The Life and Lies of Hogwarts’ Renowned Headmaster by Irvin Khaytman. For those who’ve read it, is it worth checking out?

[pommur]

Lorrie Kim speaking about Snape in Harry Potter and the Prisoner Of Azkaban. 😂🥲

Book I found this gem in:

SNAPE

The Definitive Analysis of Hogwarts’s Mysterious Potion Master

An Unofficial Exploration.

Lorrie Kim

[theanxiousbookdevourer]

Crying at the fact that you can, if you almost accidentally sell Klaasje out to the Sunday Friday, implicate Evrart, Garte, Cuno, the speedfreaks, or the racist lorry driver (which leads to a great little interaction with the lieutenant).

Sunday Friend roasts Evrart.

You continue your tirade against Garte.

You judge the speedfreaks and their music. (Not cool. You have no idea how many times their music got stuck in my head.)

You roast Cuno.

And oh. If you blame the lorry driver...

AND THEN?

[otherwindow]

GET HIM KIM

[bluastro-yellow]

personally I think Kim is the cheetah and Harry's the dog they put with them, Kim is just very good at hiding it. his parallels are Ulixes and Nilsen this man is not ok

[o-wyrmlight]

“I take it that you’re Plaisance?” Harry asked, pulling out his slightly-damp ledger from the safety of his coat. Kim didn’t know how he failed to notice before, but a piece of toilet paper was clinging to the back of the ledger for dear life. His fingers itched to pull it off. “Plaisance Pontier, Annette’s mother?”

“Yes, that’s right.” Her voice took on a quivering quality, looking between Kim and Harry from behind her cat eyed glasses uncertainly. “Did something happen? I don’t want any trouble, officers. I’m just a simple businesswoman running a bookshop! I don’t want any bad publicity going on around here…”

“No, no trouble at all,” Harry reassured with a slight laugh, hunching his shoulders with a grimacing grin. “It’s just—well. Let us introduce ourselves. I’m Para-Natural Detective Raphaël Ambrosius Costeau from the Para-Normal Investigations Bureau. This is my partner.” He gave Kim a nod and a smile. “Para-Natural Officer Jimothy Kimothy.”

What the fuck was happening?

Plaisance gave pause, squinting between them suspiciously, fingers fiddling with the medallion hanging from around her neck. “The… Para-Normal Investigations Bureau? I’ve never… heard of such a division in the RCM before.”

“It’s not a part of the RCM, ma’am—the Para-Normal Investigations Bureau is a separate entity that works the underground of Revachol to resolve para-natural disturbances that threaten Revachol’s livelihood. If Revachol is the body we all live within, then we are her antibodies.”

Having some fun writing the Doomed Commercial Area for my fanfic, A Toast To The Pigs--a Martinaise retelling where Harry wakes up in #1 Whirling-in-Rags with his memory in-tact and still has to work with Kim to solve the case. Check it out if that's of interest to you! Typical Disco Elysium themes and warnings are to be expected.

[aerostaticsurrender]

Unfair that the racist lorry driver can say “Dyke” uncensored but they won’t let Kim say faggot!!! No Justice in Revashol.

[softness-and-shattering]

Ok I see it. Kim Kitsuragi is hot.

Yknow rothfuss or someone has that line in their fiction about fearing the anger of a gentle man? He said fear not lust after but here I am 👀

[tchotchkez]

for some reason this hardcore run has been my best, most successful run of all the other times I've played disco elysium??

the most homoerotic, the most efficient, the most everything. what is happening.

[discoidal]

i miss the era where all i did was read contemporary poetry i was a worse person then to be clear. but i miss it

[disco-elysium-via-polls]

🎵 Martinaise, Terminal B

Cross your arms and nod.

KIM KITSURAGI - "Then I presume you're familiar with his *peones*?"

RACIST LORRY DRIVER - "Yeah," he says, unsure where this is leading. "They're his little bitches. He's got them all over the unions."

KIM KITSURAGI - "Not just the unions. He has peones *everywhere*. Some say he even has them in the RCM." He gets closer to him. "Dirty fucking peones who'd do *anything* for him. Multi-ethnic drug addicts..."

DRAMA [Medium: Sucess] - The lieutenant adopts a rodentine quality. Be cool, sire. He's getting *into* this.

Say nothing.

"Wait, are *we*-"

RACIST LORRY DRIVER - "You're not peones," he says. "You wouldn't be investigating a drug-thing, if you were."

KIM KITSURAGI - "No. Of course not. *We're* not peones. But *if* we were... and one of Madre's drivers were to be stealing from him -- then it's a good peone's job to find out who that is."

DRAMA [Medium: Sucess] - He's surprisingly good at this. Not bad at all... Look at him lurching.

KIM KITSURAGI - "It's not a hard job. It won't take a long time. It won't make Padre Madre *angry*." He looks at him. "But a stupid fucking racist is standing in the way, *protecting* this fucking thief..."

RACIST LORRY DRIVER - His eyes dart between you and the lieutenant. "I'm not scared of you -- or the mob. I'm under the protection of the Lorrymen and Carters Guild."

KIM KITSURAGI - "You've seen that corpse in the ceramic armour there?" The lieutenant points to the yard. "Did his shitty little guild protect *him*?"

RACIST LORRY DRIVER - "Nah. You wouldn't just leave him out there if you..." He tries to light a fresh cigarette, but his hands are shaking now. The sentence simply ends.

KIM KITSURAGI - The lieutenant turns and gives you a barely perceptible nod.

ESPRIT DE CORPS [Easy: Success] - I've softened him up. As best as I could. Now it's on you to finish the job.

COMPOSURE [Medium: Success] - Be careful. This man's still got some fight in him, by the looks of it. It won't be easy to break him.

3. [Half Light - Formidable 13] Make him tell you what he knows.

-1 Go fuck yourself. +2 Kim's bluff. +1 Saw you snooping cabin.

HALF LIGHT [Formidable: Success] - Men like this only respect two things: strength and fear.

"Show me her lorry right *fucking* now. The lady driver's lorry -- WHERE IS IT?!"

RACIST LORRY DRIVER - "Fuck you, I told you. I'm not gonna..."

HALF LIGHT - There! His voice grows smaller, as yours...

"I'm gonna *fuck* you for the rest of my LIFE, you understand?"

"I'm gonna put you in a cell with a giant kipt. You're gonna be bleeding kipt dick, you hear me?"

"I've been to your fucking lorry. I know where it is!" (Point to it.) "I'm gonna burn it down, you HEAR ME?!"

"What's your name, fuckhead?! I'm gonna go on police radio sayin' this guy told Madre to FUCK OFF."

RACIST LORRY DRIVER - "Look, fuck you, man!" He tries to wave you off. "It's some lorry down there, green banged up thing. I don't fucking *know* who she is."

KIM KITSURAGI - "*When* did she go away?"

RACIST LORRY DRIVER - "I don't know, I don't even know her name. She just rolls with the fleet and acts like a big shot. Some dyke probably. I haven't even seen her for days."

AUTHORITY [Easy: Success] - Now it's not a big deal for him anymore. This is how he saves face.

"Where *exactly* is her lorry?"

RACIST LORRY DRIVER - "Past the monument, down there," he waves south. "The green 'Tempo'. Now leave me the fuck alone, okay?"

KIM KITSURAGI - "A small 'Tempo' by the monument, green..." He turns to you. "Let's get into that lorry."

EMPATHY [Easy: Success] - Looks like you got his adrenaline up too.

3. "Right. I'm going." [Leave.]

Let's check that out.

🎵 Instrument of Surrender

ABANDONED LORRY - This green FALN A-Z 'Contemporain' is parked in the shadow of the ruins looming overhead. It's seen better days.

KIM KITSURAGI - "This must be the one he told us about. Unless he was lying..." The lieutenant peeks inside.

Try to peek in the window.

Try the door handle.

"How are we going to get in there, Kim?"

[Leave.]

ABANDONED LORRY - The glass on the side windows is tinted and covered with dust. You can barely make out the shape of a seat and two steering levers.

INLAND EMPIRE [Medium: Success] - It feels like you're peeking into someone's home residence. Inside it's private, cozy, warm. Dusty, too.

2. Try the door handle.

ABANDONED LORRY - The door is locked. The handle looks shiny, like it's recently replaced.

3. "How are we going to get in there, Kim?"

KIM KITSURAGI - "Use the prybar to smash the window. Open it from the inside."

"Really?"

"Good idea."

KIM KITSURAGI - "This has been hard enough. No need to make it any harder."

3. [Physical Instrument - Challenging 12] Smash the window in with the prybar.

PHYSICAL INSTRUMENT [Challenging: Failure] - Prybar in hand, you take a hard swing at the window. A loud *thunk* rings out and the prybar bounces back, leaving a tiny spider web on the glass.

"The window appears to be shatterproof."

"I'm sorry, it didn't happen."

"Really?" (Hit again.)

KIM KITSURAGI - "No, it's not *shatterproof*. Give me that." He takes the prybar from you and gestures for you to step back. Then, with little warning...

ABANDONED LORRY - He smashes it into the window. Droplets of glass fly everywhere, shattering over the lorry floor and pavement. You can just reach in now.

"Nice."

Just open the door from the inside.

KIM KITSURAGI - "Mhm," he nods and gives you the tool back. "It went better than I expected -- open it from the inside."

Open the door.

ABANDONED LORRY - The smell of cigarettes and perfume welcomes you. The cabin inside is plastered with old movie posters, actresses smile from the walls. There's a radio transmitter in the front and a toolbox tucked under the driver's seat. Some tools lie scattered near the pedals.

Admire the posters.

Examine the radio.

Check the pedals.

Pull out the pull-out toolbox.

[Close the door.]

ABANDONED LORRY - These are movie posters featuring starlets from long-forgotten films -- from the Twenties, the Teens, even the Nineties of the last century.

One of them particularly catches your eye: a centrefold of an ingénue attached right above the back seat.

Study the centrefold.

Enough of the posters.

ABANDONED LORRY - The actress is draped in a sheath dress, one of her shoulders bared. The faded remains of an autograph run across the poster. She's looking past the camera.

INLAND EMPIRE [Medium: Success] - A feeling of tenderness washes over you -- a longing even, perhaps. And gentle tragedy.

2. Enough of the posters.

ABANDONED LORRY - The actresses -- and the rare actor -- all smile you a warm good bye. A radio transmitter is attached to the dashboard and a toolbox sits under the driver's seat.

2. Examine the radio.

ABANDONED LORRY - Looks like the frequency dial is absent. It requires a key to work, but the key has been removed -- likely by the missing lady driver.

KIM KITSURAGI - The lieutenant leans closer to the radio and hums: "Strange. There are so many radio stations saved here... must be over one hundred at least."

"Why would anyone need so many radio stations?"

"Is there anything we can do with the radio?"

"What else is here..." (Conclude.)

KIM KITSURAGI - "For contacting an entire fleet of lorrymen, for example." He flicks a switch on the radio. "This is all shortwave, UW and UKV..."

"Looks like we're dealing with an impressive organizational tool -- the nerve centre of a huge operation. With quite the range too."

2. "Is there anything we can do with the radio?"

KIM KITSURAGI - "Doesn't look like it -- it's completely inoperable without the dial key.

3. "What else is here..." (Conclude.)

ABANDONED LORRY - The smell of a thousand cigarettes, some dead actresses and a rusty old toolbox under the seat.

3. Check the pedals.

ABANDONED LORRY - You wedge yourself under the steering-wheel to get a better look. Seems like the few tools lying around here -- a hammer, a pair of pliers, a rusty wrench -- have been casually thrown there by the disorganized driver.

But one odd detail does catch your eye: A piece of sandpaper has been glued to the throttle.

LOGIC [Easy: Success] - Sandpaper adds extra grip.

"Looks like the driver has glued a piece of sandpaper to the throttle to offer some extra grip."

Look around the cabin again.

KIM KITSURAGI - "Sandpaper?" the lieutenant repeats. "A novel technique..."

Back up into the cabin again.

ABANDONED LORRY - The movie stars are still smiling from the walls. There's a radio transmitter in the front and a pull-out toolbox tucked under the driver's seat. Some tools lie scattered near the pedals.

4. Pull out the pull-out toolbox.

ABANDONED LORRY - A metallic drawer slides out from the seat: It's empty, except for a folded newspaper.

Unfold the newspaper.

Push in the pull-out toolbox.

ABANDONED LORRY - It's an issue of 'Périphérique' from last Wednesday. A piece of paper falls out from its pages.

Pick up the note.

ABANDONED LORRY - It looks like an article ripped out from a radio-enthusiast magazine. Complex mathematical equations explain the basics of something called 'the ULAN frequency system'.

KIM KITSURAGI - The lieutenant leans over your shoulder to examine the note: "The ULAN frequency system? I've never heard of that before. I know of FM, AM, UKV, but..." His thought trails off.

2. Push in the pull-out toolbox.

ABANDONED LORRY - The pull-out toolbox slides back into its nest. The rest is as it was: radio, posters, a trace of motor oil smell under all the cigarettes.

5. [Close the door.]

ABANDONED LORRY - You close the rusty old lorry door.

KIM KITSURAGI - "Great, I think we got everything. A word, detective?" He steps away from the lorry. "*Before* we return to Joyce."

KIM KITSURAGI - "Alright, we're finished here. Let's quickly debrief and go over what we found -- so we don't do it in front of the company rep."

"Seems like something police would do. What do you think of all this, Kim?"

"I don't think there's anything to discuss." [Leave.]

KIM KITSURAGI - "Honestly, I'm quite worried by what we've seen so far. The evidence seems to point to a rather extensive and well-organized operation."

"I'm especially intrigued by that radio transmitter -- particularly the sheer number of stations it can connect. Looks like this alleged drug trade casts a wide net."

"I'm not sure what the ULAN frequencies are all about, but they may hold some significance. Perhaps it's a better way to connect between fleets while avoiding frequency bleed, or maybe it's used to tap into RCM networks…"

"What about the movie posters? How do they factor into all this?"

"How do you think this is connected to the Union?"

"Will the RCM open an investigation into this?"

KIM KITSURAGI - "As... *elegant* as they are, I don't think they are relevant to the drug trade."

"A lot of women there. Especially for a lady driver's cabin."

"Maybe the trader is some sort of cinephile."

"Could the film industry be involved?"

KIM KITSURAGI - "Yes, well..." He doesn't say more.

ESPRIT DE CORPS [Easy: Success] - Unimportant?

2. "How do you think this is connected to the Union?"

KIM KITSURAGI - "We didn't find anything *conclusive* linking them to the smuggling operation, but somehow I doubt that Evrart Claire would be oblivious to something like this happening right under his nose."

"My suggestion is -- we use it against the Union in any way we can. To our own ends. It's a slippery eel, but we just might be able to pin them down *indirectly*. Down the road."

3. "Will the RCM open an investigation into this?"

KIM KITSURAGI - "We should return to the murder case. See what Joyce tells us about the lynching. When we're done for the day, I'll call my station and suggest our narcotics department look into it."

"There are more than enough grounds to start an official investigation -- some time later, when we're done here. We do *not* want to get caught in that..." He stops to think.

"What are you thinking?"

KIM KITSURAGI - "The fact that one hasn't started already gives me pause. An investigation, I mean. Especially if the Madre grouping is involved... and I can't imagine they aren't. It's certainly worrisome."

"Corruption?"

KIM KITSURAGI - He nods. "All the same, I don't like the idea of Internal Affairs descending on the matter. That won't help anyone either."

4. "Okay -- debrief over?" [Leave.]

KIM KITSURAGI - "Debrief over," he nods. "After you."

[vicsuragi]

kim and i shared the sandwich and now he's so much angrier at me than he ever got in my first playthrough. i am getting a bad grade in kim.

[bluecookiesabi]

Got the game Disco Elysium today! Have to say, I'm greatly enjoying it. I have three devils on my shoulder and one of them is a horrible necktie

[dillapidateddenizen]

I honestly read it as racism.

A lot of the overt racist characters will prioritize Harry over Kim because they perceive Harry as more worthy of respect. This is explicitly stated in the game. We also know that Evrart does not necessarily believe all the things he claims to believe. Note the use of the R Word and M Word by Everhart in the game.

I also suspected it might be because Harry is easier to manipulate here than Kim. Evrart specifically asks Harry to sit in the chair not Kim. He knows about the missing gun and the issue with getting the man down from the tree. He abuses that knowledge specifically through Harry- not Kim.

I mean art is for interpretation, so this isn't to step on your reading of the scene. Just my two cents

i am sorry but how the f Disco Elysium fandom is sleeping on canon scene with Evrart openly flirting with Harry by teasing Kim, and Kim being jealous so hard that he is trying to get Harry on his side by calling Harry by name (which Kim is doing only in special occasions??) ??? hello???