#loona theories

[anthurak]

Looking back at the first episode...

And between Moxxie's "Maybe like a shitty dad... or a mob family. That's understandable"...

and Blitzo's "We're just killing a mother. We're ruining a family"...

I think it's a pretty safe bet at this point that Loona's rather specific "This kid probably sets dogs on fire. Maybe this girl gets off to bullying Australian kids online. And this guy? This guy definitely watches" spiel is almost certainly drawn from SOME kind of personal experience.

[warblogs17282]

So, one of the background artists for HB released the courtroom background, and it contains a few quite significant details I'd like to base a theory around in this post.

Warning for potential HB spoilers.

We've all been thinking that it's Stolas who is gonna be put on trial based on what we saw in the trailer, but based on what we know from the courtroom background, I'd like to submit the possibility that it's BLITZ getting put on trial.

My evidence? It all comes down to very similar imagery between the courtroom and Apology Tour.

But first, let's talk about why Blitz could be sent to trial.

It's most likely going to involve the arrangement between Stolas and Blitz that they had before, and what happened as a result of that arrangement being put in place, more specifically,

the DHORKS getting clear cut evidence of demons existing,

and because of them having said evidence, they were able to get more funding from the government, allowing them to create a somewhat successful portal to hell. Which is, as you imagine, a pretty huge fucking problem for the demons.

Now, back to the imagery.

In the courtroom, we see what is very clearly a chopping block based on it's shape and the blood splatter on the chopping block.

And in Apology Tour, we see Verosika chop Blitz's head off the cake.

Included with this scene is a 'chopping' sound effect, which is the common link between the two images, the chopping board and Verosika chopping Blitz's head off the cake, which the similar imagery between the two could point to that scene in Apology Tour foreshadowing future events.

Following this train of logic, it leads us to one brutal conclusion.

Blitz could very well be sentenced to death in his trial. (Obviously the show isn't gonna allow him to be killed, since he's the main character, but my point still sands)

Assuming this theory ends up being correct, it has the potential to recontextualize two key lines in the trailer.

Vassago - "Where is Stolas anyways?"

If it's Blitz's trial, that adds an additional question to us, that being, 'Why is Stolas needed at Blitz's trial?' Is he supposed to be there to give testimony? And then, about what exactly? Regarding the arrangement between him and Blitz? Regarding the meeting with Asmodeus about why Blitz should get an Asmodean Crystal?

Blitz - "Get ready for a life on the run gang!"

This line could very well be unrelated to my theory, but if it is related, Blitz getting sentenced to death could very well be why him and the rest of IMP are on the run now, that or they're trying to avoid getting sentenced at court in the first place.

Which begs the question, are these scenes related to my theory?

Just who are they? Are they humans? Are they hell's version of police?

And, are they trying to capture Blitz and maybe the rest of I.M.P as well? Leading to I.M.P getting destroyed in the process of them attempting to do so?

Truth be told there's a lot of guesswork in this theory, but it's simply another possibility I cannot shake from my mind at all.

Off topic but the things around the cameras at the trial really remind me of Satan for some reason.

[drama-glob]

Soooo, while this moment between Millie and Blitz is undeniably comforting, it also has me worried because to those that have seen the leaked courtroom art, which included a beheading stone and cameras, the upcoming trial could be more than just the illegal actions taken by Blitz and Stolas, but about keeping imps in their place with the violent act of showing what happens when they try to rise above their station. O_O

Well, I for one can think of a certain blue, royal rooster that is going to be utterly disgusted and enraged by this if that's the intention Satan and the other elites are going for. >:(

[viktheviking1]

Loona the object

I didn't notice until I was rewatching it the other day, but here we have an example of, for lack of a better word, a micro aggression against Loona as a hellhound.

Millie insinuates that Loona is Blitz's possession and an object. Loona tried to correct it, but Blitz had to go and interrupt.

So ready to stick his neck out for his kid, misses the mark entirely. He jumps to defend her position as someone in his life, rather than her position as a person.

No wonder Loona is annoyed all the time!

The little remarks of hate she must face regularly from people Blitz calls his friends, and potentially from Blitz himself, must wear at her constantly. I include Blitz in this because having grown up with subconscious biases, I don't doubt he occasionally slips up as well.

It's not just because she's an angsty, rebellious, goth that she refuses to acknowledge Blitz's position as father figure, or consider Moxxie and Millie friends. There is a lot of depth and conflicting emotion and I feel for her so much.

When people who tell you they love you disrespect you, constantly, even on accident, it cuts deep.

The conversation at this point moves on, and Loona does the only thing she can do. She copes with it.

Subconscious bias a bitch.

[helluvatired]

what if in future episodes stolas gives loona a health insurance as a gift?? hear me out!

1. this would be a great reference to the pilot episode

2. the whole reason blitzo couldn't save stolas from striker in s02ep04 was because of this

3. stolas also agrees that this is very important thing

4. blitzo loves loona, probably the most important person in his life, and this action by stolas will definitely prove to blitzo that stolas really loves him and cares for him

[f-liner]

Has anyone noticed how after Blitz says that he would hate himself too if he was in Fizz's shoes he says "I mean I do hate-"

But then he is interrupted by one of Crimson's goons. What was he going to say? Was Blitz about to admit that he hates himself?

[fizzbot]

ok im not sure if anyones pointed this out yet, but this is a helluva boss sticker pack that just recently released. its very possible that it means absolutely nothing........but is it possible that these are hints to upcoming shorts???? (personal rambles and theories under the read more)

these all seem really random. which wouldnt be out of the norm for helluva merch, usually its just an assortment of random characters doing random things. but with the fact that we now know that we'll be getting shorts, and the fact that these all seem like very specific scenarios, i think its plausible that these are hints for things that might be upcoming.

the cherubs being here is especially interesting, because we havent seen anything about them AT ALL since early season 1. we know theyll be making a return (presumibly in mastermind) but then why is the merch featuring these cherubs, and not collin, keenie, and cletus? i think its possible that well be getting a short set in heaven, specifically about these characters/perhaps in preparation to the release of mastermind.

as we know from hells belles, verosika will be going on a tour in pride, which presumably sets up apology tour. but in this art shes not in pride, shes in sloth. this is where we know the rehab center is. is it possible shell end up back in rehab/well get a flashback short about her time in there? potentially even some backstory with her and barbie??

the next one features bee, tex, and loona. i THINK it was confirmed somewhere (although i dont have a source) that well be seeing bee again this year, although i just assumed that would be in the finale. its possible that she, tex, and loona will be hanging out again in a short, which would be nice! ive also seen some theories/speculation that this specefic piece of merch might allude to the ship ""honeybunch"" (or bee x tex x loona) potentially becoming canon.

stolas and octavia sort of has me stumped. based on her lines in the trailer, it seems like octavia is still harboring some resentment, and this picture seems like a really sweet glimpse into their domestic life. honestly this feels so out of character for me that it almost made me throw my whole idea about these being potential shorts out the window. im sure they still do have nice moments like this, but i struggle to picture them happening since the only interactions weve seen them have have been negative. maybe therell be a short trying to rectify this? or this could be a pre-blitz flashback.

im partially hoping these are shorts JUST for this next one. i want striker to have a short so so bad. i have literally NO idea what it would be, though. i just wanna see more of him and bombproof :( zooming in on the picture, i did notice that 1) theyre back in wrath. 2) striker is polishing a (not-blessed) knife. and 3), he doesnt seem to be too injured from the escape in oops. although, interestingly, we only get to see the left side of his face. im pointing this out, because in oops, when the explosion occurs, the shot of the fire zooming towards strikers face is a direct parallel to the shot of the fire zooming towards BLITZ face. i think it would be REALLY sick if they ended up with matching burn scars.

finally, moxxie and his mom. this is the piece that gave me this idea in the first place, just because it seems so incredibly random. i cannot even imagine a place where she would come back, if not a flashback short that delves deeper into his childhood. where else would she fit in this whole season? its possible that he has another flashback in the show, but the trailer seems REALLY focused on stolas and (especially) blitzs past, so it feels slightly unlikely. it makes sense that theyd get a whole short dedicated just for them.

idk, maybe im WAYYYY off. i just think it would be nice to get some time away from the main cast in their current states for a while and these seem like some of the best ways to do it

[fullcoffeemoon-nem]

Timeline Theory

First update: 09-21-23

Second update: 11-14-23

Third update: 05-01-24 (+ S2 Theory link)

Last update: 06-03-24 (+ S2 Theory upload)

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Hi there!

After another re-watch and the head to pay attention to the small details, perhaps I have reconstructed a possible

Timeline of Helluva Boss

It would be better to define them as hypotheses. First of all, here is an outline of the episodes and their release dates.

I know, I also included the one whose title we know, just for the sake of general overview. The theory for the moment covers 2 seasons out of 4 announced.

Here the synthetic timeline. From the estimate version I have removed the year here, we'll get to the reason.

Here I also report some of my thoughts:

Already from the first episodes there's a strong focus on clocks and time, it is much more striking in Oops, where Asmodeus' clock marks the whole day.

I'm not sure about the year, but also from the analyzes carried out later, 2021 could be the year of the narrative arc that goes from Murder Family to Ozzie's.

(*) The Verosika's tour t-shirt was official and linked to the episode, at the moment I'm undecided on its validity at the year level, althought the date could be very possible.

However, my research started with Seeing Stars because it's the first episode to feature an almost specific date: the 20th of a 30-day month.

In my opinion it could be April chronologically and it's agreed with the information in the subsequent episodes.

The only problem is that the full moon would't coincide with what was marked by Blitz.

Noteworthy:

Blitz's calendar suggests that the full moon that month is the 14th.

Stolas wrote in the Western Energy chat that Blitz was supposed to come that evening and that therefore the full moon was the 20th.

We are certainly either in 2021 or beyond given Moxxie's coin in Seeing Stars.

From the chat we can understand that:

About a month passes between the trio Ozzie's - Queen Bee - The Circus (1 moon)

About 3 months (3 moons) pass between Seeing Stars and Western Energy

Western Energy is placed a week before Oops and among these the week told in Unhappy Campers

From Millie's flyer we know that her and Moxxie's mission ends on Friday July 17th. We know from Blitz that this lasted a week, so it started on Monday 13th July.

According to what Striker says to Crisom, Western Energy should be set around July 11th and Oops around July 18th.

We should be in 2022 though, but in that case July 17th was a Sunday.

In Mammon's magnificent concert Blitz says on the call with Ozzie that it's a weekend.

There are two options:

It could be set on the week parallel (July 21-22th or 28-29th) to the events of Western-Unhappy-Oops.

It could be set on the following month (August).

Here we come to the gap:

(*) The Mammon's official t-shirt is clearly linked to the episode, but the date (2023) and month (October) cause the information to conflict.

So, at this point we have this options:

The official t-shirts are tied exclusively to the release date of the episode.

They are official or at the date level, or at the year level.

They're official and we're actually 2 years removed from Murder Family.

I think it is more canonical to consider a connection with the month of July shown in the episode and maintain the hypothesis.

Seeing Stars -> April

Wester Energy to Oops -> July

Full Moon → September 29th

I'm pretty sure about the Apology Tour

A month of crisis for Blitz seems like the minimum to me and it's also enough for Stolas to enter a phase of rejection.

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With the LVL UP on April 29th we got a new trailer for the second part of the second season. In addition, we also have a preview of the Stolas and Blitz duet from the next episode.

I dedicated a post for analysis, opinions and spoilers here.

I'm going to integrate the episodes and data into the theory as they come out.

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In the end, I report here some of the most interesting posts from Blitz and Stolas' Sinstagrams, due to that they're the only two accounts that hide canonical information.

(Thanks @timkontheunsure for the source)

I underlined my opinion, they certainly respect real events but I don't think that in terms of dating they are canonical.

What a mess...

What do you think about it?

Have you noticed any other details that could clarify the mystery? Make me know it and let's solve the mystery together :}

Bye~

[alacetor-the-duckies-deer]

This probably isn't new but it just occurred to me that if sinners can't leave the pride ring, and the exterminator can't kill hellborns, then like 86% of hell has probably never even SEEN the carnage of the extermination.

We don't know how long the extermination go on for, but I feel like the way Adam is, that they're probably pretty quick, like legit a full day if not just one night.

And I can't imagine they BOTHER checking the other rings for escapees, if we're assuming there's nothing but the law stopping sinners from leaving, and THEY assume that's enough.

So there's like, probably a legit underground railroad of sinners trying to get out of pride, like probably at all times, but especially the days and weeks leading up to the extermination.

And I could see so many hellborns taking advantage of that, like life as a sinner cannot be safe or good in the other rings when you have to keep you head down and try to blend in. They're probably like, legit selling their souls for it. Which is what makes me think sinner can physically leave. (Or, can sinners tell their souls to hellborns or only other sinners?)

It's trading one hell for another. Literally.

And they're immortal. They'd get noticed if they didn't stay hidden, if they're contract wasn't like, passed down parent to child in a same house hold told to keep it quiet, because rtheye equally not auposed to have a sinner in their hosue. They couldn't lead any better of an immortal life.

Could you then imagine them trying to get back to pride just to be their own person again even if it means they might get murdered every year.

And getting back to 86% of hell's residence that have never seen it up close.

They've got to be buying into some kind of propaganda about it.

"Oh sinners are immortal and more powerful than us. They should be thinnes out or theyre rise up and take over hell" kinda thing, like the legit same argument heaven has for the genocide.

and since most of them never MEET sinners to empathize with, and the way they're encouraged to put down imps as children, they'd be it easy to convince.

But I feel like some Hellhounds and Imps would DEFINITELY be helping sinners escape pride.

I bet they help hide the ones who couldn't get out because I can't imagine sinners just go about their business as the extermination starts.

The days leading up there'd be so much going on as sinners try to get somewhere safe, in their own city, or places outside it or in other cities. The hours leading up to it, the streets have to be so quiet you'd think it already happened.

And because the sinners HIDE, the angels MUST be knocking down doors and raiding basement in house and business across pride.

I wouldn't be surprised if hellhounds and imps get killed, and the angels just don't see consequences because it's hellhounds and imps.

Like it's really actually that horrible.

Very very glad the shows plot is ending it.

[Continuation here]

[th3-c0ll3ct3r]

Sooooooooooooooooooooo

Things I've learnt from my first watch of Ghostfuckers

1. The original babysitter mentioned for Loona, was not someone from IMP, and instead was an external source probably meaning that Blitz had friends at one point but messed up that relationship too

2. Blitz was a sex worker at one point, from the line "Millie, I spent too much of my time, energy and holes" (in reference to when they purchased the office). We know he was oblivious reference to Stolas, however previously in the flashback Millie also mentions how it assassination jobs were very easy to combine meaning that they're not paid a lot per job. And since they're not paid a lot per job and as Millie mentioned earlier "it's all about reputation" there is no way that Blitz could have afforded that office. So either he's talking abt Stolas and Stolas put money towards it in exchange for more sex, or Blitz did sex work on the side.

OR he could have been talking further past tense as in he may have needed a way to pay back his farther for the circus and for Fizz's hospital bills (considering this is all about the past) which is pretty fuck, an added to his insecurity over the relationship about Stolas

I would explain why you try to have so much sex with people because he's used to it

3. After running from Fizz, after the circus burnt down he did actually make it to where his mother was but wasn't able to save her either. Because twice in the episode does she burn away from there opposite side that he got the scar on meaning that he must have been facing his mother when she was burning away and there must have been some form of explosion or even larger fire. So he specifically got some of his scars from when he both left fizz and got to his mother. So the scars aren't all from the fireworks.

4. Millie left without the barn a plan, meaning either something must have happened within her family for her to leave or she simply was just a bad bitch. But either way Millie's dynamic with her family has definitely got rockier

5. Millie has self-esteem issues which maybe addressed in a later episode, because she doesn't see herself as anything but muscle and in the episode they did touch on that but it's clear when she said "are you done yet" to the 'ghost', that she acknowledges what she is and who she thinks she is but she just doesn't let it get under her skin until later

6. Millie and Moxxie met through Blitzo, meaning that Blitz got to see how their relationship developed and how he wasn't a part of it. So now we have some form of explanation of blitz's expectations when it comes to relationships because he watched the M&M go from strangers, to friends, to coworkers to lovers to married. And this would have further added to his insecurity regarding his relationship with Stolas, because he had a perfect example of what a relationship should be like and that's why he always says that him and Stolas were never in a relationship because his examples of relationship were M&M and (hells worst kept secret) Fizz and Ozzie.

7. Fish demons can possess people, that is one of them in demonic powers. And I'm going to assume because of the gender differences between imps that there are so gender differences between fish demons. And with that being said I believe female fish demons are the majority to have the ability to fly because they have bigger fins, and females are generally larger while the males can you use a swim faster and some have the demonic power to possess people.

This would fit with fish being from the envy ring and being able to possess people because if you envy someone you can just literally be that person by possessing them. And having bigger fins makes you the bigger person in the room making you more noticeable. Fish demons have a clear toxic trait ingrained into their physical body of needing to be the biggest and needing to be the best.

8. More than one prince or princess of a certain ring has the ability to Grant people the power to go to the human world, meaning that there's more than just an Asmodean Crystal getting people to the human world. This also means when Stolas, went to get one from Ozzie he went to specifically Ozzie because he was the most certain that he would be able to give him one because of his connections to fizz and because him and Stolas have actually met before that.

Meaning that Stolas didn't really meet any of the other Princes or princesses of Hell. So his family must have ties to something within the lust ring because why the hell would they meet otherwise?

9. Imp may shut down even if they get out of bankruptcy because their next hurdle is the Goetia, meaning that Ozzie and Bee are going to have to VOUCHHHHH for Stolas or there could actually be consequences the Blitz other than losing personal relationships. And this could also mean that if they get out of bankruptcy and Stolas loses but not as badly he could end up working for IMP, because throughout the entire show there has been a history of none of them being able to read, write or do math.

Stolas being the only person with a form of education would fit perfectly into this role while he recovers his royalty status.

10. Fizz probably doesn't know about the breakup because blitz has been in his office for a month and hasn't left meaning that blitz didn't tell Fizz. And that could mean one of two things. One, he's been ignoring Fizz. Or two Ozzie never mentioned that he had already given the crystal to Stolas, so it will be a shock when Fizz finds out that all of this has gone down and no one told him.

11. Blitz's closer to Millie then he is to Moxxie, despite Moxxie being his first employee. This is because physically Millie and blitz get along better, hence they are more alike. They both came from tight knit families that depended on them for income, they both with a problem children in their families (bc Millie supposedly runaway or left without too much consideration from her family), they both were taking advantage of by the upper class ( Blitzo more literally than Millie but still their), and they both had self-esteem issues.

12. The timeline for IMP is, Blitzo then Loona, then Moxxie, then Millie. Making it so that Blitz was much younger when he adopted Loona then other people expected him to be.

13. Fish demons can cause hallucinations/ they can become stronger and use different forms of magic that Imps cannot. Showing the little divide between Imps and the rest of the Demons because Imps do not have demonic powers while other demons do. So hybrids may get some traits from both sides but do not get magical powers. Meaning that Striker is more flexible and physically stronger because he's a hybrid but does not possess this same or similar abilities that his other half possesses.

So briefly hybrids cannot get demonic powers from that other half that we've seen.

14. Blitz is setting up his first boundary in a friendship/relationship by no longer wanting to have sex with Millie or Moxxie, meaning that he is learning something from having time away from Stolas, his character is developing and he's developing as a person. This could also have effects in the future as he may now struggle to activate the Crystal without any active "lust" going on.

So when they get pushed through the portal by Aldruphous, Blitz may be limited in his ability to teleport them away because as seen from the penguin short you need lust to activate the Crystal, and since he's stepping away from sexual relationships, he won't be about to activate it as easily.

So that episode may go, they get teleport to the court room, Aldruphous probably loses or doesn't get what he wants out of it, and Stolas' powers are limited because of court constraints (so he cant run away) and he teleports them to an isolated zone so he can let out all the anger and potentially kill them, and they are going to struggle to get away because he can activate the Crystal and Stolas is limited with his range or powers.

[blitzsicedcoffee]

Rewatched S1 Ep 7 and are we just going to forever ignore than Loona has her own sigil in the grimoire that she is so powerful she can just set a beer bottle on and activate????

Like????

Girl is hella powerful and now we don't have the Grimoire, she needs her own damn Grimoire.

[anthurak]

So with Ghostfuckers presumably just a little over two weeks away now, I thought it would be a good time to do some theorizing on what we might be seeing.

Now I think it’s pretty clear from the trailer clips we’ve seen that this is going to be THE big Blitzo lore-and-trauma-dump episode. With it looking like whatever demon is running the hotel subjecting Blitzo to all kinds of horrific visions of his past that he’s been desperate to keep buried for the last fifteen years. Specifically what looks to be the aftermath of the circus fire and presumably Blitzo being blamed for everything and being disowned by his family. Which in turn royally fucked him up and left Blitzo the tangled wreck of trauma, grief, guilt and self-loathing hiding beneath a thin veneer of cocky assholishness that we know him as today.

So yeah, it should be a fun time :D

But with Blitzo out of the way, what could we expect from the rest of the main cast this episode?

Well with the clips of Ghostfuckers we have seeming to just show Blitzo and Millie, I think we’re going to get something of a ‘revisit with a twist’ to what we saw in Truthseekers, ie; I.M.P. is split up with two members captured or otherwise put in danger and the other two spending the episode trying to rescue them. With the twist this time being that Moxxie and Millie have swapped places.

To whit; Blitzo and Millie end up getting trapped in this freaky hotel and spend the episode getting subjected to most (though not all…) of the traumatic-flashback-torture visions, trippy hallucinations, body-jacking and general what-the-fuckery while Loona and Moxxie spend the episode trying to break in and save them.

Now one interesting thing about this is that I don’t it’s just going to be Blitzo subjected to these visions. Namely, I think this clip of Blitzo and Millie fighting that many have pegged as a flashback to their first meeting is actually Millie getting one of these traumatic flashback visions. Furthermore, I have a hunch that this flashback is going to closely parallel the one we got to Moxxie first meeting Blitzo back in Exe’s and Oohs; that this was actually a particular or even THE lowest point in Millie’s life, likely coming off of, among other things, her very bad breakup with Chazz (I imagine this is always where we’re going to get that rumored Chazz appearance), and just like with Moxxie, is was actually Blitzo who helped her out of it.

As I detailed in this post, I think this detail of Blitzo having actually been a POSITIVE presence in both Moxxie’s and Millie’s lives is going to wind up being a BIG part of this episodes resolution, ie; the big REBUTTAL to Blitzo’s belief that he ‘makes everyone’s lives worse’.

Moving on to what Loona and Moxxie might be getting up to in this episode, I did say that I think Blitzo and Millie will be getting subject to most, but not ALL of the traumatic-flashback-torture visions. To whit; I wouldn’t be surprised if Loona and Moxxie just subjected to just a bit of these visions as well.

In Moxxie’s case, I imagine this could make for a brief but very strong character moment that showcases both his own growth and shows him as a contrast/foil to Blitzo: Moxxie getting hit with his own traumatic flashbacks, namely those related to his father, but is actually able to fight through them or just shrug them off to show just how much he’s actually processed his trauma.

Whereas in Loona’s case, it could be more of a preview of whatever issues she’s actually got going on. As in, aside from perhaps a quick teasing glimpse, we actually DON’T see any of Loona’s flashback, but instead just how much it messes with her afterwards. Maybe we’ll get something especially fun like the traumatic visions backfiring a bit on the hotel manager by sending Loona into a berserker, murderous rage that leads her to start ripping and tearing through the hotel.

And while we’re on the topic of cool shit Loona might/could/should get to do this episode, what if there is a point where Loona and Moxxie are fully cut off from Blitzo and Millie via freaky demon magic shenanigans and have no way to get to them without the Asmodean Crystal, which Blitzo still has, or some other form of portal magic. Only for Loona, in a moment of sheer anger, fear and desperation, to rip open one of those portals she used to make all the time, but now WITHOUT the use of the Goetic Grimoire, to get to Blitzo and Millie.

Basically, I’d really like to see a payoff to all the hints we’ve gotten that Loona is actually a serious prodigy with magic :D

And going back to the potential parallels with Truthseekers, I’m definitely also hoping we end on a big, awesome fight scene between I.M.P. and whatever the hotel owner is that’s been fucking with them.

Finally, when it comes to the ending coda of the episode, as I alluded to earlier I think this episode is going to represent a MAJOR character-shift for Blitzo: In the form of Moxxie and Millie not only getting a front-row seat to what Blitzo is really dealing with, but also (along with Loona) making it clear just how much they actually CARE about Blitzo. Notably in a way that Blitzo can’t write off, rationalize and deny like he did with Stolas and all his other romantic partners, ie; Moxxie and Millie consider Blitzo a friend that they CARE about.

[jubileemon]

For all her friendliness, Bee's lyrics noticeably contain one rather worrying line: "I'm what you want, not what you need." This is a subtle reminder, despite how incredibly friendly and benevolent Bee may seem to be in this episode, she's still the Queen of Gluttony. All the things she gives people are things they want, but not what they actually need.

This is also reflected in her song, Cotton Candy, and her seeming preference for it; cotton candy, while delicious, has basically no nutritional value, and is actively bad for you given the amount of sugar it contains. Appropriate for a being of Gluttony...

[ankouartheadcannons]

No one:

Absolutely no one:

Someone on ticktock: So. We know Paimon is a shape shifter and has too many kids , Loona is a natural with magic even without formal training , and outside of 1 instance which was when Stolas was transforming as well in the same scene her magic has always been near identically colored to Stolas' magic... What if Loona is unknowingly a more hellhound looking hybrid and the younger half sister of Stolas-

Me: I. Hmmm

@the-maddened-hatter @cookieclimax

[seramilla]

How many people dissapear cause they just looked at Sera the flirty way? 🤣

Now that she managed to sneak in I.M.P. once who says, she will stop. One of them oversteps and boom, their head is blown out.

Carmilla: "I need you to take care of someone again."

Blitzo: "This someone lookin' at your woman funny, angel tits?"

Carmilla: "Call me that again, and I will transplant your face into your small intestine."

Blitzo: "Noted. Happy to be doing business with you again, Ms. Carmine! Millie, Moxxie, Loony, get in here, we're goin' back to Heaven!!"

Moxxie: "Not again, sir!!"

[vlovann]

Hazbin Boss: A Theory ⚠️ SPOILERS for “Full Moon” And “Apology Tour”!!!⚠️

I’m super curious if this is gonna end up with a crossover to Hazbin Hotel at some point.

First

I think Blitzø and I.M.P are going one of two ways.

1. After a week or so of Blitzø not having energy to do anything, I.M.P will crash for a while because…while he has everything he needs to make his business even more successful, it’s not even worth it because in the end since the visitation of him and Stolas is what kept it together. With his new revelations, he’ll refuse to use it out of guilt for using Stolas. If there’s no hope for them, there’s no hope for anything else. They’ll all need to get different jobs. Honestly, I can see Blitzø working at a fast food joint as a bitter employee or being a job hopper because he can’t find anything that really sparks him like, y’know, his own business. Maybe he’d lose everything and him and Loona would have no choice but to move in with Moxxie and Millie (to their own dismay), causing a kind of roommate sitcom dynamic. Despite their help and attempts to comfort, this is the lowest Blitzø has been in his life. They can’t help him. He’s entered his darkest depression.

He just stays glued to his phone on the couch until he sees a reminder of Stolas, has a mental breakdown, and then watches TV to distract himself.

OR

2. It’ll go the corporate route, partially (entirely) out of post-it’s complicated spite and a manic episode, Blitz DOES use the gem to boost his business. They’ll move out of that business complex and into a shiny new building. They’ll recruit more employees to receive bounties with a whole system, more hitmen, etc. Everything is changing for the “good of the company”, but really, it’s all a distraction from how Blitzø really feels. Like something is missing. Like Stolas is missing.

They have a grand reopening party and the OG crew watches Blitzø interacting with a bunch of other prospects and investors and realize it’s not that close knit family anymore. They don’t have anymore say on how things operate and they’ve become subordinates (I hate that word). He’d be pushing them away, maybe even to the point of resigning as well. This would nearly send Blitzø past the point of return. Having the same results as #1.

BUT THEN

They seem to be inching towards the same premise of forgiveness that makes up the basis of Hazbin Hotel. Maybe Blitzø will try therapy. But all of them in hell are too fucked up, so he uses his gauntlet to go to earth in disguise, see how fucked the US healthcare system is, making a bigger hitlist than ever before.

It splits again here. Either he’ll try one therapist for like two weeks and think he knows more than the therapist like people who can’t admit when they’re wrong seem to think.

OR

he’ll try a bunch of different therapists, none of them fit whether they talk too much or too little, give him homework, send him to a mental health institution where he promptly breaks out…when he finds a $ex therapist who has pride stuff everywhere, is LGBT and Kink affirming, asks him his pronouns, etc. (He did NOT know this was a thing). It goes well and he actually notices small changes.

BUUUTTTT just as things started going well, something happens to the gauntlet and he can’t get to the mortal realm.

Sometime after is when he sees Charlie’s commercial on the TV for the Hotel and finds his way to get help.

I ran out of hypothetical juice. I’ll repost if I come up with something, but I need FOOD.