#helluva theory

[anthurak]

“I can handle this one. You know, if you’re not up to it.”

I feel like there’s something INTERESTING about the framing and demeanor of Loona here.

First there is the fact that Loona is volunteering to go slaughter a sweet, innocent, picturesque family. A family that Blitzo even starts seeing himself, Stolas and their daughters in.

But also the fact that Loona isn’t completely oblivious to Blitzo’s discomfort here like you might normally expect in a scene like this. You know, like how Blitzo was completely oblivious and even belittling of Moxxie’s discomfort back in Murder Family.

Indeed, Loona seems PARTICULARLY aware of and tuned into Blitzo’s discomfort and is offering to spare him that. Like she gets that murdering this family is pretty messed up and uncomfortable for Blitzo.

Which I feel really gives this interaction the vibe of something we might see in a very grim horror or war story where a character has to do something very dark and reprehensible, like murdering an innocent family, only for one of their friends/comrades to sympathetically offer to do it themself and spare that character the horror. Sometimes because the friend/comrade has done similarly dark things themselves in the past. A very ‘let me pull the trigger and spare you the guilt’ moment.

Maybe this is more because of the posts I’ve recently done on Loona’s fucked-up backstory, but I can’t help but wonder if this might be HINTING at said fucked-up-backstory.

As in, is this Loona basically going ‘I know this is fucked up because I’ve done this before’…?

[bleucaesura]

I’ve decided I love my idea that maybe Stolas will eventually become a romance author.

Smutty smutty romance.

He’d be so successful.

So what if that bitchy sinner didn’t get wet from his Stolitz fan fic? What does SHE know anyway? NUTHIN.

You write your smutty books Stolas. You go baby gurl!

[onehelluvafan]

Is Octavia afraid of Stella?

This brief scene of them together in Mastermind confirmed for many of us something we’d long suspected—that Stella is not close with nor very maternal towards Octavia. But after watching this a few times, I think it might go even deeper than that. I think there are subtle hints that Octavia might actually be afraid of her.

There is evidence as early as Loo Loo Land that even when Stella was more involved, she may not have been a source of comfort for Octavia.

When baby Octavia is crying for them at the beginning of the episode, Stella says, "You get up," before Stolas sighs and goes to comfort their daughter.

There’s been some debate in the fandom that maybe this exchange was more about “taking turns” than anything else. But the sigh that Stolas gives is clearly a reaction to her response and he is already sitting up before she has even finished her sentence.

I think the implication is that he was going to get up either way and is annoyed that she has no interest in comforting Octavia, whether it be alone or together. The intensity of the sigh may also indicate that this was a regular occurrence at the time.

In the same episode, there is a photo and drawing of just Stolas and Octavia. Then later, in The Circus, we see a another photo of just the two of them.

The only pictures we see that include both Stella and Octavia are family photos with the three of them together. Over the span of 17 years, these are the only two photos that seem to exist and she is not physically touching nor looking at Octavia in either of them.

In Mastermind, Octavia is clearly very upset, but there's more being shown than just her hesitation to embrace Stella.

When she first runs from the television, Stella swoops in front of her so forcefully that there is a *whoosh* sound effect. Octavia briefly puts her hands up as she comes to a stop, so that they don’t collide.

Then, arms back down at her sides, she stands there for a moment with a look of confusion and concern on her face. At first I assumed that this was her reaction to being blocked from the doorway, but then I realized that they are in Stolas’ palace, where she wouldn’t expect her mother to be in the first place.

But the thing that startled me when I first noticed, happens when Stella reaches out to engulf her in a hug. Octavia's reactive instinct is to raise her hands, palms facing outward, and back away.

Once in Stella's embrace, she then stands there limply until she begins to cry. Only after that does she move to hug Stella back, but even then, there is another moment of hesitation when her arms are halfway up before she finally embraces her back.

It makes sense for her to be startled and confused at first, but seeing her recoil when Stella raises her arms, paints a concerning picture.

To be clear, I don't think it's meant to imply that Stella has actually hit Octavia before. Honestly, if she had, I think we can all agree that Stolas would have absolutely kicked Stella's ass straight out into the stratosphere.

We do know, however, that she has seen Stella be physically violent towards Stolas. While it’s possible that she’s never witnessed them fight previous to his cheating, she was at least exposed to it enough afterwards to be completely unfazed when her mother hurls an imp at him in Loo Loo Land.

So, I suspect that, on some level, she does not feel entirely safe around Stella.

Either way, I think we’re supposed to assume from their exchange that Octavia has likely never been comforted, or possibly even held, by Stella before.

Because the fact remains that, even after finding herself merely in an embrace, she still hesitated to accept comfort from her own mother.

[maxiemumdamage]

See, I know people like the idea of Loona giving Octavia a gentle talking to about how her father does care and she hasn’t been abandoned and she needs to give him the chance…

…but I would be just as happy, and I think it might be more realistic, if instead Loona went off on Octavia.

Because realistically? I think if Octavia were asked what Stolas should have done instead in that situation — whether he should’ve instead stayed quiet and not taken the blame and let Blitzø die?

She’d say yes, he should have.

Octavia doesn’t like Blitzø. Of course she doesn’t, her dad acts like a horny weirdo around him, this random Imp doesn’t actually seem to respect or like Stolas to begin with, and she definitely at least partially blames him for her parents divorce.

(Of course she does, she’s not even wrong to — even if their marriage was miserable and abusive before that, Stolas only had the nerve and hope to leave it because of Blitzø.)

But the minute she voices any of that sentiment, I think Loona — who already has a temper, who came so fucking close to watching her own dad die right in front of her, specifically to watching him be executed by a court full of snotty nobles like Octavia, for a crime he didn’t commit that Octavia’s mother and uncle framed him for (which their noble status enabled them to do) — would snap. Rightly so.

Because it really doesn’t seem like Octavia has thought very deeply about…any of the stuff between Stolas and Blitzø and Stella. Of course she hasn’t, she’s a teenager and it’s much easier to pretend her family was perfect until an outsider (Blitzø) screwed everything up.

And now? Now it will be very easy to blame Stolas, say he doesn’t care about her and never did. We know from the season 2 trailer that Octavia will say this!

But Loona has. Uh. Not to compare traumas, but she’s been through way worse. When it comes to parental abandonment and messy family, just the tiny snippet of her life before being adopted was pretty awful. And she’s had plenty of misery with the whole Stolitz drama, too.

I don’t think Sinsmas will be the end of the Octavia plot line, but the beginning of it. It will establish how poorly she currently thinks of everyone involved…

…and then hearing some judgment from Loona, who was previously pretty sympathetic to her familial plight, will make her wake up to how much more complicated the situation actually is. And Octavia will start to actually think about her parents, about Stolas and Stella’s treatment of her.

It’s a good place to set up some flashbacks for season 3 — showing what Stolas’s section of the Goetia family actually looked like, some of the good things that he’s lost with the end of Mastermind. Plus…

Then, just as season 2 opened with the Circus and a flashback to Blitzø and Stolas as kids, season 3 can then give us backstory on Octavia (and by extension Stella) and Loona during their childhoods.

[lost-romantique]

Alright Stolitzers let's do something fun!

Lets imagine, Prince Consort Blitz becoming a thing...

What are your hilarious headcanons and or theories about the hijinks that would ensue?

I'll start...

"This crown is so fucking heavy, and these clothes are so goddamn itchy- FFFFUUUCCK MEEE"

~~~

Stolas: "Darling, proper etiquette involved in drinking tea, involves raising your arm at a certain angle and sipping from the cup."

Blitz: "Manners schmanners" *holds that teacup like a fucking menace and chugs that tea like he's taking a shot*

Stolas: *face palms*

[helluvagirlboss]

Hey I have a question…does Blitz know where his mom is buried?

Did he go to her funeral at all? Or did he refrain from going because he assumed nobody wanted him there?

Because let me tell you, if it gets confirmed at any point either in the next episode or any episode later down the line that Blitz didn’t go to her funeral and therefore never got to properly say goodbye, that will do unspeakable amounts of emotional damage to my psyche.

[stories-and-chaos]

Something I’ve been pondering about Stolas and Octavia, especially since the mid season 2 trailer. So we as the audience know how unhappy Stolas is in his marriage. We saw his reaction to the engagement and Stella’s picture, how disengaged she was when Via was a child, the way she talks about him, and evidence that Stella has been physically and emotionally abusive.

We’re omniscient, we even know well before Western Energy that she’s hired Striker as a hit man. So we’re aware of how awful this relationship has been for Stolas.

Octavia isn’t. Stolas has been protecting her from Stella’s behavior her whole life. He’s done his best to give her the happy childhood he never got. Just contrasting the parent child interactions:

From the looks of it, Stolas has been taking abuse from his father and wife for decades, all while never letting his daughter know. Which is not at all unusual, for an abused spouse to hide it from their children. He’s kept Via out of the line of fire and has masked it so well she doesn’t even realize her parents have problems until the “Not Divorced” incident.

So from Via’s point of view, her dad has suddenly cheated on her mom who is screaming at him because she’s mad. Her dad is now acting bizarrely sexual and not giving her the attention she’s probably used to. We know that Stolas is experiencing a sexual awakening. He’s exploring parts of himself that many people would have as teens and young adults, not their mid thirties. That whole delayed puberty kicking in.

And we know from Stella gossiping with her friends that she and Stolas aren’t intimate. From the sounds of it, the two of them haven’t done the deed since Octavia’s egg was laid. So the girl is used to her parents being cordial in front of her, with no physical affection between them. That’s her normal.

Stolas suddenly hanging all over Blitzø, the dirty talk, him yelling back at Stella. From Via’s perspective her dad became a cheating sex fiend out of nowhere. Stella’s outbursts are probably common enough that the way she’s reacting doesn’t move the needle for Via. Unfortunately we haven’t seen Stella and Octavia interact yet. But Stella is enough of a narcissist that I’m sure she’s portraying herself in the best possible light in this situation, blaming Stolas for everything.

Meanwhile, Stolas can’t even manage to tell Via that her parent’s marriage is arranged, loveless, and abusive.

He tries but can’t verbalize what’s going on. Not that this excuses his behavior. The Loo Loo Land trip was such a disaster because Stolas wasn’t paying attention to Via. But Via is mostly in the dark about her parent’s dynamic. To her, her dad is the one suddenly acting weird and ruining the family. Stolas has insulated her so much from the worst parts of his life that she has no reference point for his unhappiness.

She’s genuinely confused about why Stolas hates Stella. And from the sound of things, Stolas continues to not talk to Via about it. He was hurt enough to be hospitalized for an extended period. But in the trailer we hear Octavia saying “You never loved mother and you don’t love me, you love him.” Which indicates that she’s still being kept in the dark. And she doesn’t know her dad was hospitalized because of the injuries her mom’s hitman inflicted. Stella is actively trying to kill Stolas and their daughter thinks Stolas is at fault.

Octavia is a sheltered teenager who isn’t being informed about what’s going on with the adults in her life. And Stolas in particular is keeping her out of the loop. He doesn’t realize that she’s growing up, becoming independent, and needs to know about what’s happening. Until she finds out the truth of her parent’s marriage she’s going to keep blaming Stolas. Maybe the trailer is faking us out but I get the feeling that the rift growing between Via and her dad is going to break wide open before they reconcile. I really hope Stolas will be able to tell her that yes, he never loved her mother, but he’s always loved his little starfire.

[jubileemon]

Andrealphus’ regency over Stolas’ holdings only lasts until Octavia turns 18, whereupon she’ll assume control. Considering she’s already 17, Andy knows he only has a year at most before he has to cede everything back to his niece… and therefore every reason to have her and her father killed to ensure he keeps his “promotion”.

Octavia being alone with Stella and Andrealphus is scary on its own. Via is still a vulnerable teenager, and now she has a horrible mother and evil uncle as her only family, and who knows what will happen to her without Stolas to protect her from their influence.

When it looks like Stolas is going to be executed, Octavia can only break down in her mother's arms sobbing...and Stella simply smirks when Via isn't looking, not caring one bit about how Stolas getting killed is going to hurt her daughter.

Sure, Stolas came out of it alive, but, assuming she hasn't already, Octavia is going to find out why Stolas was in that situation to begin with. The worst part is that Stella and Andrealphus don't need to manipulate Via against Stolas. Stolas was willing to die for Blitzo even though she still needs him, and he knows she's afraid of losing him.

[timkontheunsure]

So anyone else think that they're foreshadowing that Stolas will join IMP later?

Kiddo Blitzø: And if you apply I'll hire you... maybe

Wee Stolas: You'll hire me?!

Smol Blitzø: Yeah if I feel like it.

Ickle Stolas: Well, I hope I qualify then.

Then there that Blitzø has been fantasized about bringing stolas on missions, and was keeping drawing on him.

(he gave Stolas a moustache as a disguise 😆)

Then there's the problems IMP currently has

Blitzø is back at budgeting, and will spend all their money on horse plushies. No one currently at IMP can stop him doing this.

Moxxie tries to keep them on track; by noticing when they need to take a job to get paid.

But he's awful at time management, and will dick around for a week on a 10 min job. Millie's bad at calling him on it, and bad at raining in Blitzø.

Loona is extremely board just doing the phones.

An extra person would mean she could go on more missions.

And if it's Stolas, he can watch from the office to make sure she didn't get hurt. He has he ways after all.

No one there is good at the paper work. They can't even do there taxes right.

Stolas is amazing at paper work. It as one of his special interests, so it's fun for him.

Then there's the biggy. Stolas is a sassy bitch who can get Blitz back on track like no one else. And call him on his shit when he's being an idiot.

(panic attack to calm and flattered in under 30 seconds. Yes I counted).

Edit: adding IMP really needs the help lol

Edit 2: forgot that Moxxie asks Blitz in Seeing Stars "if we can't even hire a cheerful, qualified receptionist, how can people trust us to massacre their enemies?"

[thecat620]

Ghostf*ckers Millie Theory

People noticed that Millie doesn't seem to be her usual self when she has a mission with Blitz and Moxxie isn't a part of this one this time. Some people think that she's grouchy because something happened to Moxxie.

But I don't think that's the case. I think the only reason she might not be herself is because she's genuinely worried about Blitz. She's probably the nicest and closest to him since they freely text about sex stuff and she's the most understanding of Blitz's quirks. She'll only get annoyed when he's harsh about Moxxie but I think she's genuinely concerned about him.

When she sees him break down in the trailer, she's very concerned and I think she'll be the first he'll open up to after whatever goes on in the episode with the possession and visions causing him to go through so much. She's tough but she's very compassionate and kind when she's not in feral mode. I think the friendship these two have had since working together and whatever past they had brought them closer together.

It'll be interesting seeing how they met and why at first they were fighting and trying to kill each other to eventually being friends and coworkers. She met Blitz when she had long hair and when she got married to Moxxie, she had long hair then too. I think he might've had a hand in seeing those two eventually meeting and getting together.

Plus with her home seeming to restrict her wild side being a bit too wild even for Wrath, Blitz giving her an outlet as an assassin and praising her wildness I think means a lot to her. So she would want to help him even if it means knocking whatever is possessing him out of him.

I think the friendship between Millie and Blitz is going to be very sweet.

[the-great-pirate-war]

✨THEORY TIME✨ Stolas’ Plot Points with Blitz always seem to happen in or near the BATH and are COLOR CODED FOR A REASON.

The Day He Met Blitz:

The Day He Made The Arrangement with Blitz:

The Day He Ended The Arrangement with Blitz and Gave Him the Crystal:

The Day He Lost Everything To Save Blitz:

Just a theory, but I think all the bath shots when it comes to this represents them feeling vulnerable and exposed. Almost as if Stolas finds the bath to be a “safe space”. The colors also represent the emotions surrounding them.

Meeting Blitz (Purple): Pointing at Stolas’ status as royalty

Making The Arrangement (HEAVILY BLUE): Could be his idealism and enthusiasm about the idea.

Ending The Arrangement (Purple + Blue): I have a feeling this represents him being conflicted. One side showing his royal status and the blue being enthusiastic about what could be with Blitz. Seems like Stolas being afraid to confess due to his status.

After The Trial (Red): Symbolic of the love between Stolas and Blitz, could even be Stolas feeling overwhelmed/sensing danger after his punishment.

What do you guys think? This is simply my take on what it could possibly mean as it seems to happen TOO OFTEN to be a simple coincidence.

Hope you enjoyed!❤️💙✨

[anthurak]

Interesting thought I had re-listening to Mastermind

There is this great respect and even reverence from Satan and even the other Sins with the statement that "He IS the Law." Notably even Asmodeus and Beelzebub show this respect and only show their annoyance when Satan starts his whole 'ruled the endless dark' spiel.

To me, this says that this ISN'T something that Satan seized in the wake of Lucifer's disappearance, but rather a position he already held since long before Luci left.

I feel like this role as 'the Lawman of Hell' is a position that Satan has probably even held since the beginning of Hell. A role he chose or was even given by Lucifer when the seven of them were figuring out how to run Hell.

The difference is that before, Satan still answered to Lucifer (and/or possibly Lilith) and potentially the other Sins, but NOW he basically answers only to himself. And maybe the other Sins if they outvoted him.

It also explains why Ozzie and Bee are so reluctant to challenge Satan even though they don't like what's going on. Because Satan has ALWAYS been the one to enforce the rules, and you just don't challenge him on that without a majority of the Sins to back you up, which they don't have.

Unless of course you're Lucifer, but then he's not here right now.

And one other interesting this is that I have to wonder if the other Sins likewise have roles they are meant to serve for all of Hell? And have any of them been notably neglecting or likewise abusing these duties since Lucifer left?

[dontfuckingbother]

What you didn’t notice in helluva - ozzie’s stamp

So every deadly sin has his own stamp, right. Here are mammon’s and ozzie’s:

During Fizzarolli’s „two minute’s notice”, he has mammon’s stamp in the background. OR SO I THOUGHT. Because i watch helluva boss like a crazy person i have a sixth sense when it comes to shit like this.

For most performance fizz has mammon’s stamp in the background:

Which is either green or purple. However, when asmodeus enters the scene to give fizz his torch the stamp disappears:

And when he gives him the torch WE HAVE THE STAMP OF ASMODEUS IN THE BACKGROUND, NOT MAMMON’S:

This stamp is GOLD. Here we can see by color meaning, that while purple and green represents mammon in this scene, fire and gold stands for asmodeus. When he disappears behind the curtains we’re back to the mammon’s stamp:

However, just when fizz oficially quits his job, and mammon wants to hurt him, he looks up (and i kinda wondered why, that’s how i discovered this):

(I need to reblog so i can add more photos, gimme sec)

[onehelluvafan]

Confirmation that even just receiving the crystal is a painful memory for Blitz because he associates it with the end of their arrangement 💔

[th3-c0ll3ct3r]

Just a quick one guys, Vivziepop, and the whole team and the whole community do not like it when you talk about the leaked shit

You can talk about how it's been leaked and how it's not a good thing that it's been leaked, BUT do not post a single thing that has the leak in it (and not say anything), do not make theories based on it, don't post pictures about it, don't post videos about it, no one likes it

Everyone hates it

I was able to avoid the leak for many months until a (different) theorist created a whole series about it which I listen to and only afterwards did they say it was based on the leak and I almost threw myself out the window

I have only seen one physical image and I do not want to see anymore so can we cut this out please?

[lost-romantique]

My reaction to realizing we're only one Helluva short away from being out of hiatus, and Helluva Boss officially comes back next month

With the Helluva shorts showing some minor plot relevance (even if small), I'm interested to know what the next short is going to be about...