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Making the left kinder and more empathetic should always be a goal we strive to attain but I think we do more damage than harm by pretending people, even young people, do not frequently choose to participate in systems of oppression explicitly because of the way that that participation benefits them. If you don’t acknowledge the problems for what they are, the reality for what it is, you will not come up with solutions that will actually work.
I genuinely don’t believe there’d be a dip in people like Tate’s popularity if we cut the anti-men shit in Half. Its important to curb sure. But its not relevant Here, in This context.
#that vaush has misdirected people into having this argument where we essentially argue that we shouldn't shit on harry potter or we'll make#little girls into terfs#its genuinely a bit distressing#the commentary ive seen/heard from him on this has been so very disingenuous and in bad faith#and this idea that cis boys are so fragile that we must handle them with special gloves feels so#demeaning to children and cross purposes to what we're trying to do#which is to disincentivize people joining systems where they tangibly benefit over others#like if someone on the right said this shit we;d all agree this is bullshit.
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GOT! Karlach's experience of gender is getting sometimes sir'd, sometimes ma'am'd, often stuttered at fearfully, and approached by chasers on Both sides of the transgender experience
#got! karlach has butch t girl swag lets not let it go unstated.#theres a state of trans butch-ness where agab becomes irrelevant bc your features are so overlapping that they're a little indistinguishabl#(like when I was getting terfs misidentifying me as a trans woman and sending me harrassment a few years ago lmao)#and Got! karlach is riiiiight there
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of course terfs would get mad at a post reminding them that there’s more to being a woman than misery and suffering: they’re misogynists. they hate women. their misogyny is just the ‘woke’ kind where they re-enforce the idea that women are weaker and stupider and generally less capable compared to men but like, in a ‘feminist’ way 🤪💅
when you hate women and genuinely believe they are inferior, that they are lesser, it’s impossible to see that there’s any joy or pride or anything positive about being a woman. especially if you yourself are a woman who believes in this kind of self-deprecating mindset.
#terfs haven’t opened their eyes to misogyny and sexism they are hyperfocused on it#so much so to the point where nothing else exists#misogyny exists and the world is unfair and therefore it always will be and women will always suffer and be miserable#how could anyone be happy when other people are being treated unjustly?? they must be fake women#they must be pretending to be women. that’s the only possible explanation#because all REAL women know is be weak and dainty and dumb and subservient and lesser#no REAL women could ever beat a man at chess or throwing darts or jeopardy or any sport or ANYTHING#men are better than women in every single way and there’s nothing we can do about it besides warn young girls of the suffering of womanhood#do you think maybe there in lies the problem with your way of thinking??#your train of thought shouldn’t stop at ‘men are better than women’#(which isn’t even objectively true by the way. which you’d know if you weren’t a misogynist)#if you really cared about women you actually be trying to do something for little girls to be hopeful about in the future#so maybe they can grow up and realize that being a girl isn’t so terrible and awful and miserable#but no. you’d rather focus on problems that don’t matter and attack and shame women who don’t agree with you#or don’t look like how your whitewashed eurocentric idealized version of what a woman should look like#or god forbid do sex work and actually be comfortable and happy and proud of that line of work and lifestyle#yeah. those are the real issues REAL women should care about#give me a fucking break#anti terf#misogyny /
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for anyone wondering about current public opinion on trans ppl in the uk, tories have #boycottcostacoffee trending on twitter bc this mural put on a random costa express van for brighton pride last year shows a person w/ top surgery scars and apparantly thats 'glorifying the irreversible mutilation of young women's bodies', so yeah, we're doing great (:
#transgender#transmisandry#transandrophobia#uk politics#uk news#terf island once again having a normal and sane one (:#og post //#ik its haha funny old man yells at cloud type energy that a bunch of tory losers have nothing better to do that complain abt a coffee van#but trans men are fucking HATED here. we're told our gender affirming care is mutilation#they paint us as confused little girls with body dysmorphia who are trying to 'escape' misogyny#how much terfs and transphobes damage the public perception of trans women gets a lot of attention and it absolutely should#but trans men are not an afterthought or dragged-in-bystander in their bigotry. we are direct targets
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why does tumblr keep recommending me terfs- what am i doing wrong?
#i’ve blocked like every tag i can think of#if ur a terf/radfem/whatever and u see this disrespectfully i hope u die#oh sorry was that not innocent little girl who was taken advantage of by an evil moment enough for u? 🥺#ur guys’s ideology has almost killed me get the fuck off my dash#anti terf#anti radfem#fuck terfs#transgender
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I try to understand the viewpoints of people different to me, because I think it's very important to know how bigotry works so I don't accidentally fall into it myself.
I understand, on some level, how a lot of bigotry works. Racism, sexism, homophbia...but one I can't quite understand is Trans-Inclusive Radical Feminism.
RadFem beliefs are built on the idea that "Man = Bad, Woman = Good", right? And, by extension, TERF (Trans-Exclusive RadFem) is a stance where a Trans Woman is "just a predatory man trying to invade women's spaces". (We're not gonna mention the way they treat trans men because 1: I don't have as much experience learning about that one and 2: It isn't as relevant here).
That's a pretty simple conclusion to make, right? Incorrect, definitely, but simple. If "men are all evil and abusive" is your belief, then "trans women are just men trying to prey on women" is a pretty easy conclusion to come to, I feel.
But TIRF ideology seems a little less simple. To a TIRF, anyone with a penis is evil and predatory and abusive...UNLESS they claim to be trans? Like, if you believe men are all those horrible things, wouldn't you be a little suspicious when a biologically male individual comes up to you and says "But I'm actually a woman, you can trust me!"
Is it like with transmeds and shit where you have to be the "right" kind of trans? Do I have some misunderstanding of the ideology? I don't get where it comes from tbh.
#tw terf#tw transphobia#tw tirf#tw radfem#because like#it also follows in reverse;#terfs believe a trans man is just 'a girl wanting to escape victimhood'#but to a tirf a trans man is...evil? predatory? somehow?#terf beliefs rely on biology but tirf beliefs by definition need to exclude biology#where is the logic#how do they come to these conclusions#i am so confused#i thought maybe it was based on socialization but...#trans men? would have a female socialization??#they wouldn't be raised like men because people thought they were little girls???
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i need tumblr to understand that asking me, like...once a month or whatever to get tumblr premium or whatever it's called actively makes me LESS likely to buy it than i already was. we have moved from a position of zero likelihood to negative likelihood. are we aiming for a loop around? what is the plan here?
#same with that little fuckin frog popup i keep getting.#i don't remember what that's for. tumblr ad free shit? the tumblr shop? whatever it is i don't want it#i'm not paying shit all for this website while terfs and nazis are allowed to run free but god forbid a trans woman exist#like. after that debacle with the ceo going scorched earth on that girl? no money for you Ever tumblr sorry about it
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I have seen far too many aphobic posts now that either hate sex repulsed aces for "giving the community a bad name" or whatever, or hate sex favorable aces for like, being fine with sex.
Hey aphobes, aspec labels are about attraction not. What we are comfortable with or enjoy doing.
God yall are just fucking rancid.
Leave aspec people alone if you wanna hate so bad.
#also these types of people also tend to be terfs.#many of them are like “aces are so obsessed with sex now boohoo” or “these poor brainwashed little girls oh waaahhh” fuck offffff#god im so fucking tired#aphobia#asexual
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posting this here bc ive put this topic on my main enough for today
its not directly related to what ive been talking about but i keep thinking about how people say stuff like "terfs never target trans mascs because they want to convert them" and its like, does anyone have any idea how horribly sexually predatory terfs actually are to trans mascs? like i wouldnt expect anyone to go looking for what terfs actually talk about but the shit they say about fetishizing trans mascs, infiltrating trans spaces specifically to prey on them, forcing them to detransition, rape, its not good.
and then they turn around and call gay trans men fetishizing rapists
and like i dont dig that deep into terf blogs sometimes i go through them because i like to update shinigami eyes and get some blocklist coverage and this stuff is not hard to find, theyre posting this stuff in their bios and pinned.
#such a weird situation to be in where trans mascs are constantly oversexualized and fetishized and then literally at the same time talked#about how were so disgusting and unappealing and such a waste of a pretty girl#i know its exactly the same for transfems too like ugh#i know they (terfs) infiltrate trans spaces irl and pretend not to be terfs bc ive seen several people from both sides talk about it#like the trans mascs will be like yeah im pretty sure my creepy roommate is a terf i need to get tf out of here#and terfs are like help how do i bang my sexy tif roommate who has no idea im a terf and hate (his) stupid little identity
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the worst genre of "he would not fucking say that" is when people use characters to spout bigoted opinions
"Moon Man" (that's MAC TONIGHT to you) is NOT a member of the KKK. Asuka isn't a Nazi. Your favorite anime girl would not support Donald Trump. My Melody and Kuromi aren't TERFs. stop this madness.
#one time i saw a terf edit the character heidi (the classic anime depiction of her) to say transphobic BS#HEIDI WOULD NOT FUCKING SAY THAT#she is an innocent little girl living in the alps#e#racism tw#nazi tw#terf mention
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kinda wanna blow some terfs minds by telling them that i, an afab, also identify as a trans woman. woman but in a trans way
#ive seen some terfs make jokes about it like it's some hilarious hypothetical that couldn't possibly be a reality for anyone#it's almost a little hurtful tbh#afab trans girl#afab trans woman#trans stuff#queer stuff#nonbinary#terfs can interact. if u want#i mean i know im gonna get my identity disrespected by transphobes either way cus that's transphobes entire deal#it doesn't usually touch me tbh#im not detrans and i won't be. im deeply trans in so many ways#i need a tag for my own rambles
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most of the discourse on here is stupid and i have a real life where i engage meaningfully with these things offline but it's incredibly depressing to see people attacking trans men for wanting to use a word other than "misogyny" to describe their often violent and specific oppression
#if you don't understand that trans men face different attacks than other trans people#and that perhaps we should not be forcing them to describe those attacks as 'misogynistic' when conservatives and TERFS alike are obsessed#with pretending that all trans men and boys are just confused delicate vulnerable little girls#then i don't know what to fucking tell you except that you are seriously lacking in compassion#this isn't theoretical. it's animating republican legislatures as we speak
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hey tumblr, thanks for recommending me a TERF post "based on my likes." I hope the hour I spent blocking as many people as I could bear in the notes is enough of a hint for you.
#i've seen some shit this morning y'all#like it was one of those posts that i initially agreed with but then alarm bells went off in my head at some of the phrasing#the post was about how 2-year-olds and 3-year-olds don't have a concept of gender yet because they're too little#followed by 'amazing it's almost like telling kids what boys and girls are will help them understand'#so i checked the notes and it was rampant with terfs#the main post was never tagged as anything though someone just posted a twitter screenshot#i need to find the terf tags post thing cuz i didnt have time to block before but i guess i do now#now i'm paranoid about how much of my stuff has been this shit and i never realized#anyway be careful guys it's fucking BAD out here#dimond speaks#tw transphobia#tw transphobes#and like i agree- 2 and 3 are too young for this stuff since the gender binary is so fucking strong#of course girls can play with dinosaurs if they want that doesn't make them boys#but kinds will understand that the more experience and knowledge they gain of the world around them#they barely know they're sentient yet of course they're gonna get confused#but once they DO get a better handle on what gender is then some of them are gonna realize that being a boy was the right answer all along#you cannot make that judgement for them#and also like no harm no fowl if they DO think they're trans for a while? like what's wrong with that??#this shit is complex as fuck and i do not expect a 3-year-old to get it okay?#took me til i was about 15 to even know trans people existed at all and a couple more months to realize i was one too#and i'm fucking dumb like i'm not a good metric to go off of#but even if 3-year-olds aren't going to understand that's where you as the parent have to help them understand it#but little by little#like as teenagers and adults we can just look something up and tada! there's the answer!#kids can't do that yet they DO need parents to help them#those parents just also have to be aware of how they're teaching their kids#there's a difference between 'girls like pink and boys like blue' and 'and your age it literally doesn't matter but girls like she/her'#and that was a terrible example but i'm not a parent so#you figure it out
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Okay I think I have it figured out now.
I am a girl. But being a girl is relatively low on my list of priorities in terms of things I identify as/with.
#Meow.#Like you know how Terfs will say stuff that makes it clear they identify as women first and people second?#I’m more like…#Person first. Cat second. Queer third. Dog fourth. Then little guy. THEN girl.
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@tattered-cynic is a moid orbiter who thinks that he gets to be an authority on what we speak about in radfem spaces, who gets to speak, and who needs to be questioned. He is also acting very suspiciously about a little girl leaving our space and insists he calls her a woman as "a sign of respect". I'm sure I'm not the only radfem who can see the issue with that. Like thats a version of 'you're so mature for your age'. It's gross.
Anyways, I wasn't going to make this post but he's acting hella weird so I figured it couldn't hurt. I'm not saying he's doing anything wrong (that I can prove) but do we really need 30-year-old males in our spaces in the first place? I honestly don't think we do, gyns.
Also, @tattered-cynic:
It was cute that you thought you could tell me who my enemies are, and that it excluded you, but I assure you it does not. You are my enemy.
#what are you going to do sue me?#I don't know who you thought you are or where you thought you were but you missed#weird ass little male. why are you so invested in little girls being able to talk about adult shit online with random adults#(potential) online male predator for the image ig#radical feminism#lily responds#radfems please touch#terfs please interact#radical feminists please touch#radical feminist
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i feel physically ill whenever i have to defend my opinion
#but i’ll do it#and i’ll do it respectfully#not to toot my own little horn but a few years back i had a month long conversation with a young person who was a few short steps away from#being a full blown terf. like their blog was full of it. but in the few personal posts i saw i could see something i resonated with prior t#my own journey into understanding of gender#and i talked them down from it#i have a sc of their final message to me hold on#it was so cool. i wish it was something i could encourage but i think i was just lucky with who i got. it was so saddeningly easy to disput#every point they brought up#'you were so kind and respectful to me despite being online. thats like super cool of you. thanks for helping me grow as a person. it#honestly feels a lot better to not be so full of hate...' it goes on from there but u get the point.#i do not believe in debate bros. because i dont think you can win in a 'battle' of opinions. but i do heavily believe in emotional labour#being your job as an ally#the person i spoke to left still not believing in my gender identity. but i am more than fine with that. because that was not my aim#i just needed them to see trans women as people. full stop. and i managed that with a few short disputes and the examples of 2 teenage girl#with large online followings#it was very easy#and yes i did feel physically ill for the entire month i did it. you just gotta do it scared
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