#like. a lot of similarities between him and dream. 'this is my server i do what i want' 'your actions have consequences' etc etc
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pompadorbz · 3 months ago
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FINALLY FINISHED MY QPHIL 3.0 DESIGN HOORAY (cant wait to. redesign it again in like 3 months.) (CHECK UNDER THE CUT FOR MY SILLY DESIGN NOTES!!)
I think I said this before but i so. SO BADLY wanted him to have a sleep theme since I always loved how his presence on the island was kinda up in the air. Is it a dream? Is it not? When he goes between the island and hardcore is that change really happening? Who knows.
The idea of making his usual outfit more like a housecoat was super appealing to me, so I opted for this open housecoat look with really heavy frills which were super fun to figure out, and I knew from pretty early on that I wanted to give him a quilt pattern SOMEWHERE on his design, so I thought the inside of the coat would do nicely for a sorta "default state". It also meant I could attribute meaning to the symbols and colours I used. wink nudge.
He has a more subtle angel theme, like with the mobile on his walking stick being a halo with the wing placement further emphasizing this, as well as just his generally lighter colour scheme. When I say sleep was his theme I almost more-so imagine it as like. The feeling of waking up in the morning where you're mostly refreshed but still a LITTLE drowsy. Lots of very spring-y, morning colours.
Just some other quick notes, I always really liked the mod in the server where you could have the crows perch on your shoulder and follow cuz of the lantern, so I thought it'd be fun if I made it so brian just straight up WAS the lantern. So I made him look like one of those wall outlet nightlights!! The backpack being kinda cat shaped was COMPLETELY unintentional but a very welcome result. Missa backpack is real.
As for the alternate outfits, I have a bolas one, as well as an ender king one since I deemed those two the most important. For the ender king I weirdly don't have many notes, like it's fairly straightforward (Save for the elephant in the room but now I'm gonna keep my secrets on why that's a thing). The Quilt design is supposed to be a lighter, easier-on-the-eyes version of the no texture pattern, and I imagine that all the goop and gunk on Phil is hidden under the coat. I imagine it'd look fairly similar to canon so just like. imagine it for now. Might draw it one day. MAYBE. There's some tiny additional colour symbolism but I'll hold my tongue on that and let you guys draw your own conclusions there. I WILL say, however, that instead of his theme being sleep, his theme is "nightmare" (and also kinda sleepwalking since both fit).
The Bolas design was SUPER fun to work with. For starters I wanted the three designs to be in three different states. One with the coat, one with the coat reversed, and one without the coat entirely. Since I wanted to do the checker pattern thing with the possession design, having the sleeveless bolas design worked really well for the shape I landed on, even if it wasn't conventional. and SPEAKING of non-conventional design choices, I decided to go against the usual plague doctor + gas mask fusion design. Which might be controversial... But god. The moment I thought of his mask being a falconry hood, the idea just wouldn't leave my mind. Because of this, the full mask is kinda separated into two parts. The eye mask which kinda also mirrors his usual sleep mask, and the gas mask itself (I kept it in a beak shape since it'd feel odd if i made it any other shape for phil, lol). When designing the whole thing I kept thinking about more apocalypse setting clothing. Like mad max. Or the one gag from that one spongebob movie. Lots of leather. And of course, to match the other sleep themes, the Bolas outfit's theme is "fever dream", although its a bit more subtle. It's easily the weirdest design, The pops of green were simultaneously in reference to the friendship emerald... As well as... Well, the green chain right below the chain on the sickness themed design was probably the most tasteful way I could've chosen to get across vomit without it being too on the nose. (also sidenote, I had a few friends compare bolas phil to... a fly. Which wasn't intentional but it's kinda funny that the guy designed after fever dreams looks a little bit like a bug.) Ok thats it for design commentary I'm gonna go to bedge nyow.
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localsharkcryptid · 2 months ago
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you can make both always. I love the concepts of boths designs for cdream. One bc it's shocking seeing the guy that destroyed countries and scared everyone into thinking he's a monter, just being a human like everyone in all senses.
And the other bc it's actually cool to challenge the ideas we have and how it's easy to dehumanize things that look different from the standards qe have. And how people don't think someone can be vulnerable or hurt when does not look close to what we think as "vulnerable".
Cdream fits so well with either design it's hard to choose i get You struggled sm
You get it Anon, you get it
On the one hand, Dream being human - just a guy who has made himself larger than life and flaunts this persona of him being the villain and a threat, is so satisfying during the staged finale in particular. The person behind the mask is just a 20 something guy. He's young. He's human. He's human and is constantly treated as lesser. It's an excellent narrative for the story and adds a LOT to the guy who's POV we never get. I do love any Dream that is just a guy for that choice alone.
Though hybrid Dream, GOD, it writes a slightly different story that's just as compelling. Admittedly I almost always fall back into writing him as a hybrid, and it's without a doubt my favorite for the variety AND the reasons you listed as well as some of my own.
Cause usually, regardless of who it is, there's a decent amount of other hybrids on the server, it's established that they are at the least uncommon - but most likely society still follows a similar status quo to us on how they judge. There are unspoken rules of society for the hybrids that are 'dangerous', that you don't bear your natural weapons, you don't do anything to make others uncomfortable, you must conform to the comforts of others. It's all subtext and undertones, rules never spoken. Societal Conventions the loathed.
I'd like to think, with my Dream who's a chimera - based on the combination of a Florida Bobcat, General Ambiguous Serpent Creature & a Bongo/Forest Antelope (taking that last one from my buddy Charlie cause it's just so silly) - that he detests such things and has fought his whole life to ignore them, he wants to be accepted for ALL that he is, he doesn't want to bend to rules that paint him as dangerous and untrustworthy if he doesn't adhere to shit that people don't even talk about. This is without a doubt why the server in its early days is so important to him, cause he doesn't need to hide, his friends accept him and could care less about what he is. He's not a monster, he's a friend, he's a companion. They care about who he is - not what he is. Even if his reputation from the manhunt days proceeds him. The mask only becomes a courtesy when new people show up, to hide his face - not for their sake, but for his own anonymity that ties back to the Manhunt reputation, it is not to hide his fangs despite what others may think.
Then there's the thing of him being shoved into this box cause of what he is, and it makes it so easy for others to dehumanize him - to villainize - to justify. Yes, he's done bad things, he's done horrible acts and it's all too easy for people to say "it's in his nature" than to acknowledge HIS perspective and reasons, to even consider that maybe, just maybe he was simply pushed too far. A snake kicked one too many times. And unfortunately every single time he's forced to or tries to defend himself with the only language anyone understands, violence, it's just more 'justification' that he cannot change and is eternally a danger.
It also adds another layer of parallels between him and Sam - Who in my interpretation has done everything he can to fit in with society, to prove he's not a monster or anything of the like, he's a good guy. Unfortunately as we all know, that line of thinking goes to Sam's head in the end, and he becomes a monster for reasons that have nothing to do with him being a creeper hybrid. And that's not even TOUCHING Rivals Duo and how they mirror each other.
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I could say SOOOO much more but I think you get the gist - I generally just have such a soft spot for characters who look different/have certain features and are shunned by society for it in one way or another + plus the whole motif of characters who struggle to change their ways cause it's the only thing that works - At the end of the day I'll be sticking with the hybrid take, for sure, I was just stuck in my own head thinking it over for a minute XD
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lasnevadascryptid · 1 year ago
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I'm gonna say something that might be controversial but I'll say it anyways.
Ahem.
Ranboo's lore is unoriginal by dream SMP standards, not just as a concept. Naturally it's unoriginal by concept standards other people have come up with this idea before.
But on the dsmp he is not the only person to have this lore, and this issue for lack of a better word is why I LOATH to bits people scapegoating CC dream for whoever the CCs didn't or don't communicate. He may have owned the server but the lore wasn't is idea and largely didn't partake in lore, and from what I understand didn't overlook it either.
My impression from looking at fans talk about the lore behind the scenes stuff was that Wilbur was to some unknown extent in charge. But as I heard more stories and rumors about the treatment of the server's playerbase towards their fellow player, it became clear neither was true, and it was always that responsibility to communicate with the other players fell upon to the individual CC to do so, not Wilbur and certainly not Dream as many seem to claim.
Even your favorites are guilty of this, you should scapegoat Dream to ignore the issue just because they're your favorites and Dream is easy to punch down on and pin all the problems of the server on. Hell I rarely see any drama go by without Dream being dragged in as blame partly blamed on him regardless of we know or not he's involved or to blame. He is partly to blame, but not solely like I see a lot of people imply.
The miscommunication problem should have been called out a lot sooner, evidence was kinda always there, but it's now way too late, and i genuinely think some good would have happened if it was addressed.
For example:
Fundy and Ranboo have the exact concept for their lore. And it's never addressed. This is lead to a lot of interesting parallels and themes between the two that are never acknowledged. If it wasn't for the fact the way they discussed their lore and ideas for it, I'd assume it's intentional but it's very clearly not and I think their lore suffers for it.
What is Fundy and Ranboo's lore? Well, person has a supposed subconscious other version of themself with powers the consciousness version doesn't have, and causes the person to have issues sleeping, and generally causes them bouts of severe mentally health issues and "spells" of unreality and disassociations.
This subconscious self claims to the same person as the awake conscious self, and claims to genuinely want to help, but does so in a way that comes across as scary, unhelpful, strange and unusual, their actions and methods concerning. They also claim not to exist. Also, the more this subconscious self takes over, the worse the mental health of the waking conscious self gets.
In both cases this leads the person to another person with a smile motif often known for being shady or morally grey at best, others of the server often keeping their distance from this smile man. Though when they met this smile man, it's in a dream, and it may not even be the real person, the real deal, but rather something conjured up by the subconscious self to serve a purpose of sorts.
Especially now on the QSMP it's plastered everywhere to point if I wonder it's meant to be subconscious programming of sorts and for whom.
Besides a man with a dubious moral code and smile motif, they also come across a mysterious entity. For Ranboo, his Enderwalk ARG calls this entity Z. Just Z. And as for Fundy, it's not named, but there is a shadowy cloaked figure that chases him until he wakes up.
In both cases, they eventually give into this subconscious self seeking help and guidance, hoping for answers from the self proclaimed subconscious version of them directly.
And that's kinda it. Nothing comes from the similarities, and as far as I can tell. They aren't intended to be this similar. I WANT to theorize that they are similar because Z/"Nightmare" is lying to Fundy and Ranboo for some unknown reasons.
But it's basically confirmed that's not the case, Ranboo implied he didn't really know what they wanted from their character having changed their lore and even species a lot, eventually settle on: full blooded enderman that's just a chimera/half albino, and he's not possssed by anything it's genuinely a subconscious self that trusts dream for some/no reason???
And it's too similar to be Fundy somehow was predicted or copying Ranboo in the sense of again, Ranboo kept changing what he wanted the end to be, hell he changed how his death was play out, Wilbur confirmed it was gonna be self sacrifice to save Tubbo only for it to changed to be by Sam's blade.
I largely believe things could have been different if they just communicated, especially given how to some extent unintentionally Fundy gets replaced by Ranboo as Philza's grandson, as in Philza rejects Fundy in lore and disowns him only to turn around and allows Ranboo to live with him and Techno in their secluded fuck off away from everyone else cabin when they shunned nearly everyone else. Additionally Ranboo's being Fundy's last ally prior to Las Nevadas.
It could have been very interesting. It's clear as CCs they talked but also clear there similarities by chance are not intentional. The only thing that hints that I'm wrong here in my eyes is Z talks to Fundy in ender only for Fundy to realize what it means, meaning CC fundy knew about the ender walk but to what extent?????
:(((((((((((((((( stuff like this makes wish things... turned out differently. I genuinely wanted a s2 of dsmp. But seeing the CCs either not show up the ender dragon fight and or slowly quietly leave. Just. Ugh. The community thrives just bittersweet seeing the CCs move on to greener pastures.
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box-architecture · 9 months ago
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I discovered that Communication Knife AweSamDrunz have Children Now today, and I’m loving everything I’m reading so far.
Also that they hang out with Sapnap, Philza, and Techno. Was not expecting that, but yeah, Dream would want to reconnect, wouldn’t he? Even if it make Sam Uncomfortable and Punz Salty.
aaaaaaaaa I'm glad!!! The kids are sort of separate from the main au in that they're not really the main focus, they're just something that occasionally makes me happy to rotate in my mind. Healed, happy characters who are extremely neurodivergent, with their weird neurodivergent children, able to exist contently.
also, yeah!!! I realized a while back that I haven't really talked about the relationships and conflicts or Anything with real consistency on this tumblr. I'm used to interacting with people in the discord who've already had to listen to me so many times yell and rant that I've forgotten that I. might need to give context actually to other people who have showed up to a person on a soapbox spouting nonsense.
short answer: yeah, theres a Lot of complicated feelings, but by the time the children are in the picture its been like a decade and peace has been made with most things. No one has forgotten, of course. Shit was fucked. But events keep happening, characters keep developing, and Dream cradles his happy ending with the people he got to keep so very close to his chest.
So its like! Techno will support Dream through thick and thin and be civil with his partners, Punz and Sapnap had some rough moments but are buddies, and Sam will never talk to Dream's friends about anything deep, but after years of him genuinely trying to be a good partner, Techno and Sapnap are no longer five seconds away from trying to murder him.
Long answer: I'm trying to pull together some posts that will give detailed explanations of this entire thing. Itll take a bit, but its infinitely easier than the full fic I was trying and failing to write. I'm pulling this timeline from an old post so it might not be completely up-to-date even with my edits, but this is some skeleton stuff I can give that will make things easier for Understanding probably. I'm very sleepy. Here you go.
Timeline for My Own Damn Convenience:
Shady Dubcon Prison sex w/ SamDream
Prison Escape
Gentle Recovery sex w/ Drunz
Dream decides he has major control issues and is going to fuck Sam to prove he isn't traumatized. Punz thinks this is a terrible decision.
AweSamDrunz sex, complete with a rulebook of things Sam isn't allowed to do (including giving or receiving kisses)
Quackity kidnaps Drunz similar to in the one cut lore thing, offers to let Punz go if they torture Dream (they stab Quackity instead)
Sam rescues them (without Q finding out) and then kidnaps them, where he ties up Punz and gets Dream kisses until they all eventually pass out (Dream gets mild medical attention)
Dream wakes up and unties Punz
SamDrunz has a talk and decides Sam is allowed kisses again
many kinks are discovered
Sam tries (and fails) to get a hobby
Sam builds +30 prisons/boxes/sex dungeons around the server, of various usefulness
Sapnap finds out about the Torture, sees the sex tape, assumes Dream can't consent to the relationship considering Sam was his warden and Sap thinks Punz betrayed him, and takes Dream to a cottage away from everyone to try to protect him. After Sapnap yells at SamPunz, Dream gently informed Sapnap he's going to continue the relationship, and they have an emotional reconciliation that leads to weeklyish meetings between Dreamnap where they can just sit and talk
The Snow Incident
Sam Recovery From The Snow Incident
Oh God The Egg Is Back (Sam locks up Punz and Dream in a bunker for a month out of terror, and doesnt tell them why because he knows it will stress Punz out and Dream could be an idiot and get himself Egged. Punz is pissed but can't argue with that) (Dream could have fixed this all with his admin abilities good god)
They actually deal with the Egg
An Incident Happens (but its like several incidents actually, including Tubbo finding out that Ranboo was working with Dream the whole time)
Failed Finale
Recovery
Eventually grow old and live in a nice little lush cave house called The Box that Sam made
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blue-aconite · 2 months ago
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Can we please have a little background info on let me drown? 💕
Vee, first I'd like to apologise for not answering this sooner. Second, I'm so excited you want to know more about Let Me Drown. I've been wracking my brain for this ask and I've decided to put it underneath a cut. There won't be any significant spoilers, but better safe than sorry!
You can find some background here. Find out more below the cut!
Like I've said before, I actually can't exactly remember how I came up with the idea for LMD. As I mentioned in the post linked above, there was another fic planned called "Mid-Air Collision", which had similar elements that I've adapted into LMD.
In the film, it's very obvious Rooster and Hangman share some kind of history. They don't like each other and there's some kind of slumbering conflict between the two of them. I found that fascinating and while I do love me a good Hangster fic, I knew I wanted to create something else this time around.
I think there was a dream involved where I saw parts of the fic. Call me crazy, I don't know and when I woke up, there was only a vague memory of what had happened. But I couldn't let it go.
I made this, which became my first visual for the fic and after creating this, I made two separate Pinterest boards. One for Bradley and one for Jake.
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In MAC, Bob's little sister was named Sasha, which I used in my first draft. But the name never felt right, she didn't feel like a Sasha. So while I recycled parts of the character into LMD, I knew I needed to let her become her own person. There might have been a poll involved in choosing a name, or maybe I asked for opinions in the Discord server, but either way, Thea got stuck on my mind (I was most likely looking at baby name websites).
I wrote this in the Discord, saying to get ready for pain and angst:
Bradley slammed Jake against the wall, knuckles white as he tugged on the shorter man’s shirt. “Shut the fuck up!” He sneered, trying desperately to ignore the way Jake seemed to thrive on his anger. Hangman smirked as if their position didn’t bother him in the slightest. The rest of the squad tried to pry them apart, tried to get Bradley to let go but he held fast. Jake didn’t once try to break free, he just kept a hold on Bradley’s wrists. “Calm down Chicken.” The nickname, that Bradley hated, was the last straw as he pulled back only to raise his fist instead. If he couldn’t get Hangman to stop smirking, he’d punch his face instead. What he didn’t count on was Bob of all people stepping between them and blocking Bradley’s fist.
And another few blurbs, but it all started with the confrontation between Rooster and Hangman at the Hard Deck and Bob picking Jake's side over Bradley's (this event has not occurred in the timeline for the fic yet and what I've shared above has changed a lot).
Bradley's issues came into play quite early and I knew before I even started writing that he and Thea were doomed from the beginning. There was no way for either of them to make it out of the relationship unscathed and I always knew Bradley was going to break her heart.
There was a point where she never found about his infidelity directly from Rooster but rather Athena, but I owed it to both of them that Brad was the one coming clean about his actions. There was even a time where Thea was going to forgive him at first but as Bradley's toxic behaviour unraveled itself and became such an important part of his downfall, I knew Thea would never do that.
Same as I knew Bradley and Thea would never make it, I knew Jake and Thea were destined to be together. That was a no-brainer.
The balance between writing Bradley and Jake as love interests is what intrigued me the most, how different and at the same time, alike, they are. It's a swamp of navigation but I knew I needed to write it.
I could go on and on but I'll stop here. Thank you so much for this ask, it's been great fun answering it. You know my DM's are always open!
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cdroloisms · 1 year ago
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8, 13, 3, 25, 26, 27, 30 for the ask game!
8. Which character do you think is most different to c!Dream?
Oooh uh I'm not very good with superlatives. Hmm...
Lazy answer tbh but because I can't think very hard, I'd say c!Sam in a lot of ways? Which is funny particularly bc c!Dream seems to be under the impression that they're a lot more similar than they actually are until Shit Goes Down. c!Sam and his choosing c!Dream over the entire server versus c!Dream's ruthlessness being applied to everyone and absolutely not sparing himself. c!Dream's general dislike for power structures versus guy who thinks he was born to be listened to. c!Dream's ambivalence w/ morality (and his spiral into thinking of himself as pure evil, after. well. a lot of things) versus c!Sam's defining literally everything based off his batshit moral code and I Am Good isms. I think they want similar things in some ways, but unlike, say, c!Dream and c!Tommy (who I think have much more similar ideas of what a peaceful server would look like), c!Sam would make Samville The Peaceful Town Where Nothing Goes Wrong As Long As You Listen To Sam and have an underground torture bunker. God c!Sam is so batshit
(For some more answers, probably c!Sapnap in terms of conflict resolution? Uhhh c!Punz is p high up there in terms of motivation. I'm sure there's others that'll come to me eventually)
3. What's your favorite c!Dream era?
Prison arc, sorry. I'm predictable. But for eras that I think are chronically underrated, Pogtopia-c!Dream will always always always have a place in my heart. We don't talk about this man enough fr. I need to go back and just binge all c!Dream content especially pre-Vassal bc god that man breaks my heart.
25. If c!Dream had to join an existing/former DSMP country or faction, which one would you choose for him?
The Syndicate, probably! Well the Syndicate if I'm trying to be niceys otherwise I'm shoving him on Sam's island or in Las Nevadas to kick my feet as the world burns. But yeah I've always had a very soft spot for Syndicate c!Dream--my guy is so scared all the time man :[
26. What do you think is c!Dream’s greatest strength?
Hmmm...probably his intelligence? He's damn smart and he knows how to utilize it well. He's a hell of a fighter and he's a hell of an opponent even when his brain is a little twisted up in itself in fear, he knew how to play around people's perceptions of him and create an absolutely batshit plan and pull it off. The Revolution, November 16th, Staged Finale...he knows what he's doing and he sure as hell does it well.
(Thinks about how all three of those include accounts of him intentionally putting his allies in positions that would put them at the least amount of risk, between c!Dream's overcaution in the Revolution and doing the duel himself, the nonsense with the traitor/there is no traitor that kept people's eyes off Wilbur, Staged Finale being explicitly a plan to protect c!Punz...man.)
c!Dream is smart enough to cook up a plan and ruthless + determined enough to go through with it Whatever It Takes, and yet he's still honestly pretty cognizant of the risks and acts to minimize it (especially risk to those working with him). c!Dream is competent and that has always been a big part of what I like about him
30. In 3 words, how would you describe c!Dream?
Hmmmm. I'm really bad at these types of exercises XD I'd say...
Scared, Ruthless, Responsible ?
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piningpebbles · 8 months ago
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Hi I'm thinking of writing a canon divergence fic about Sam and Jack, but since they don't really interact much I'm curious what you think their relationship is like, since what I know is mostly that Sam doesn't like Jack because the latter wanted to kill Tommy.
Do you have any thoughts on what their dynamic would be/is like, in canon?
hi!!! (also sorry if it's been a while, i'm slowly digging through my queue and inbox one post at a time)
first off, very honored to have been the person you thought to ask about jack's dynamic with someone would be! fair warning it has been a Bit since i've watched the dream smp (not out of any malice it's just Very long) so my memory might be a bit foggy.
to make a long story short:
while c!sam was suspicious of c!jack, he wasn't ever made aware that jack was planning to kill tommy.
jack worked for sam one time to try and figure out what happened to some of the prison's cameras in an attempt to gain access to the prison, but nothing came of it.
jack (along with ranboo and tubbo) was told by sam the news of tommy's death. they don't get a chance to talk much about it, but jack was the one to spread the news across the server.
jack didn't get along with sam's robot, sam nook. jack genuinely cared for the hotel, but his need for it to be attached to himself (the name in particular) was seen unfavorably by sam nook as he saw it as a challenge to what the hotel was really all about (tommy).
when tommy and jack argued (after tommy's revival) tommy sent sam nook to "sort jack out", intervening between him and jack.
when jack left for new manifoldland, leaving the hotel, tommy talked with puffy and sam about finding (and killing?? likely a hyperbole) jack for leaving the hotel / not taking care of it while tommy was caught up w/dream (...i think)
they might've talked briefly during jailbreak, jack upset with sam at him "letting dream go", but i think that's the last conversation they ever had
there's a lot you can do with them! lots of unexplored potential! the way i see it the two biggest points of interest between them would be tommy (and their conflicting viewpoints on him, one angry and one guilty) and dream (and their very similar viewpoints on him, that he was the real evil of the server) but you're totally free to approach their dynamic from whatever angle you want!
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thenaiads · 2 years ago
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Fandoms and Ships
Here is the link of the first post: LINK
@wilbywrites
@bruhimbadatart
and who ever will read this
I will said here to not bothering OP anymore.
......................... The point is that you CAN'T STOP THIS!!!
Boundaries or not you can't stop it, this thing happen everytimes.
When I was in the Undertale fandom I saw shit like you can't even imagine!!! Some creators in that fandom will create some cute or even dark AU and then people will totally vomit bullshit to them no matter what.
In the Gravity Falls and OTGW fandom, I and other people shipped Pinescone (WirtxDipper), and most of us will age them up but others Not!
And don't let me talk about the gore and porn stuff that some people draw (some of them are 16 years old) even when the original creator said no!
As I said I have been in a LOT of fandoms, and I keep seeing this war over and over again.
Many people took what Techno said as "NO, don't do that",  but for me was more "This is cringe and I don't wanna participate it. Please, keep it private".
And with Techno that NEVER really talked about it in a more specific way like Niki did. (I remember she said to "don't ship HER (real person), but that we were free to USE her Character for our fanworks").
We were left with a very lovely ship, but with some people that will come and say "delete that or else", even when we tagged and keep it between our friends on AO3.
I believe that the creators have no issue with us using their fictional characters, but if we wanna talk about boundaries then I wanna use an example: 
Imagine that you (creator/artist) make a doll (series/comic), and you give that doll to a person or kid (fandom), and maybe you give them some "rules" (boundaries) about how to play with this doll. Now the person starts playing by creating fictional stories and scenarios (AUs and headcannons) that don't have much to do with the original story (canon plot) of this doll. From there the person inevitably begins to give this doll (which has become a completely different character from the original story) "companies" who can be family, friends and love interests. The doll is now the Persona/Original character of the fandom.  At that point the fandom created something so similar and different from the original story and characters. And the original creator can't "take back" the doll, because it has become something totally new even though it's still part of the original series in a way.
This is what in a way happened in DreamSMP's roleplay, where the creators have given us a product, which we have with our imagination changed into something new. (Where this is going with the boundaries??? I’m going there)
This kind of behavior and creativity is the foundation of every single fandom, and you can't change it... Because that's what makes a fandom.
The moment the creators of the DreamSMP created the Server and its storyline, they knew that inevitably this sort of thing was going to happen!!!!
And yes some asked to avoid some things (like using their real persona, or to avoid writing or draw smut or horror/dark/gorey stuff), but even so they never said "DO NOT CREATE this particular topic at all" not really, what they tried to say was "Please, if you create this context keep it private and don't force it on me, because it make me uncomfortable”. That's what I really hear from every single creator and artist at the end of the day. And that's what we as fans are supposed to acknowledge and respect, but fail to do (towards the original creators and other fans).
Another example: Dream said that horror and gore make him sick, but that wasn’t an order to stop creating dark content for his character. (That Dream said something that made people angry, and then fans and haters bein assholes with him is something totally different and not new. If you some of you was on Twitter on that time you know exactly what happened and how 😓)
I've learned not to force my ideas on others when it comes to fandom, whether I'm right or wrong.
You can't tell people what to create and how, not when the fandom was originally created by fans for fans!!! To allow them to run wild with their imagination and creativity.
Don't you want your fandom to create some kind of stuff? Then don't create a fandom... or at least stay away from it.
I mean, Toby Fox the creator of Undertale has never interacted more than he should with his fans here on Tumblr (where the Undertale fandom was born. Even when the level of toxicity skyrocketed), and for a reason simple: there is no way to control people, you can only hope they are respectful enough to keep their shit to themselves and not make trouble for others.
If you go to my tags you will find some problematic ship (not DSMP) with themes like: incest, selfcest, R-18 (for the smut/lemon scene), and other that I don't remember.
These tags are all about fictional characters that I'm 100% sure the creators vomited blood after read them.
Still this hasn't stopped anyone from creating them and enjoy these kinds of themes.
If you wanna avoid to see the “Dreamnoblade” (or other ship names), you need to go on your Settings and use the Filtered Tags!!! And if you find a post DNB with any tag on it then you need to contact OP (the creator of the post) and ask them to use the tags that will help your filtres to work!!!!
In the past, I had a lot of people coming into my ask-box asking me to tag "in the correct way" my posts to avoid seeing things that they did not like. I had to create the “moth” tag, because some guy that followed me didn’t like the photos of moths that I LOVE to reblog!!! So I don’t understand why you can’t do the same 😑
So I Repeat:
1- You can’t control people and force them to be like you want.
2- You can’t and should NOT trip guilt fans to throw away what made them happy, especially if they keep it privately (on Discord, AO3 or here on Tumblr), with NO intentions to show to the CC their PRIVATE WORK.
You CAN and SHOULD create boundaries with other fans asking them to be respectful towards CC and yourself, and to use tags correctly (like good neighbors do).
3- And when a person is a total piece of sh*t and doesn’t wanna find any agreements with you, then you: Unfollow them, you can even Report and Block them if you wish (like most of us do these days), and call it a day 😊.
This is how a fandom work and should always work!!! Period. And if you can’t do that, then you should not be in a fandom and interact with the people in it!
P.S: English is not my first language, if there are weird and confusing words and sentences I’m sorry, you can contact me and I will try to explain myself better. The word is Try.
Please don’t send hate or disprectful messages here or in my ask-box (if you do that I will totally report you to the Staff and then block you. Don’t test me)
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ivi-prism · 2 years ago
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Hey, Ivi it's been a while since I dropped an message to you're inbox, how are ya doing? You good? I would also like to ask you if by any chance known the Latin America Streamers called ''Spreen'' and ''Farfadox'' I have seen them on Squidcraft and their interaction between the English speaking streamers, makes me curious about their stream and fanbase. Also was this chaotic the community of Latin American streamers I have mentioned?! Because I have seen fanarts of Spreen x Karl Jacobs and Farfadox x Dream during the Squidcraft tournament. Heck I just check twitter and managed to scroll passed by an fanart of Farfadox and Dream acting lovingly with a caption of enemies to lovers arc. And they both kiss each other.
This is insanity at it's finest but I am loving the chaos it's making....
Hey Rai! Whats up?
On my side of things i’m being bashed over the head with a golf stick by school because midterms are cruel but i’ll make it through no worries there XD
And I do know my gang! My bois! My homies! But there is gonna be a long ass explanation because hispanic scene of mcyt is vast X3
Also cause I think a lot of this story is needed to understand what the heck is happening so
So the two servers you gotta know about to sorta understand who are all this new block people you are seeing running around.
On one hand we have EliteCraft. Is an SMP started cause a bunch of hispanic youtubers saw the anglo speaking mcyt scene be reborn anew in like 2019 so they went “YO REMEMBER MINDCRACK?! (Same mindcrack that also inspired Hermitcraft) it is a good time to come and do that now! >:D”
And so they did. A bunch of new gen hispanic streamers saw the applications open in twitch and decided to join! From here we get names like Shadoune and Farfadox who by the time Squidcraft games happened were already known.
There is also Spreen who is important I mention! Man has been in the youtube scene for a while and he has slowly but surely acrew a following! Tho seeing as he was nominated and won the esland (like the streamy awards in english) as “Streamer revelation of the year” sufice to say his big break came just recently.
And now the big hitters! We have to talk about Karmaland.
Just like in the anglo sphere there are different gens of mcyt and content creators, the same happens in the hispanic scene. The man the legend Vegeta777 was a big name in the hispanic mcyt side of things since the early days (still is!) I’d say he fills a role similar to what Captain Sparklez and Bajan Canadian do in english sphere.
So Vegetta back in 2014 (he was alredy huge cc back then) went “I wanna make an smp to play with friends :D” and so karmaland was created and other old gen and important mcyt also participated there since they were Vegetta’s friends.
From Karmaland we get the likes of Vegetta, Rubius (remember Rubius), Luzu, Fargan and Alexby. All of them have played in subsequent seasons of Karmaland and were in Karmaland 5. Auronplay also comes from here, remember we mentioned him here. They were also present in Squid Craft games (V technically wasn’t but that's more complicated X3)
And now I babled all this names to come and put everything together. With the key piece to this. Quackity.
Quackity like any other latine kid would have grown up watching the karmaland gang and seeing as Quackity is now one of the big names in streaming he went “2021 is the year I make spanish content!” And that mf did it. He started doing content in spanish and then him being such a big name alredy went to Rubius (who he watched as a kid, hehe same) and went “we should play roblox :D” and Rubius went “ya know what? Sure!”
And so Quackity and Rubius played roblox together, became friends, streamed together a lot and then Rubius introduced Quackity to the Karmaland gang and thats how we got Quackity in Karmaland 5.
Since Karmaland is HUGE like probably one of oldest and most influential smp’s in the hispanic scene, this catapulted Quackity into also being a big name in the hispanic scene (thats how our man got nominated for five eslands on his first year of streaming in spanish)
Due to his renown Quackity started interacting with other streamers (mostly new gen streamers) and befriending them. The amount of friends he made is ridiculous X3 but it is like this that he meet Spreen and they became friends.
Now to start off 2023 Auronplay (remember him? One of the big ogs also was on Karmaland) went “lets make an event” and that event was Minecraft Extremo (extreme minecraft) that was a battle royale set in a hardcore world.
In this event many of the people mentioned participated. Relevant to our timeline Quackity, Rubius, Spreen, Shadoune and Missa (missa is another streamer he has this entire story too but this is a long ass answer already X3) teamed up and created the team “Vacio Legal” (i believe this translate into LoopHole because they technically weren’t allowed to do that)
And they all became friends, and played together and were dramatic over eachother dying. This event saw both Spreen and Shadoune become closer to Quackity.
And now to our near present. Squidcraft Games. Rubius was one of the organizers and like filling 200 player roles is difficult even with how big the hispanic community be. So i assume thanks to Quackity we got english speaking streamers in here, since Quacks is basically Rubius fave little bro figure by now XD. (Nepotism I tell you)
Thats how we get Foolish, Tina, Karl, Hannah, Dream, George, Sapnap, Sylvee and Tubbo in Squidcraft games.
And now is play time.
It was all very cool…. Would recommend anyone watch the event if they’d like! Tina has many cute interactions with a lot of streamers and we were all endeared with her efforts to learn spanish.
Tubbos Pov was very fun too from what I’ve heard.
Now you may ask “okay I heard all of that, have learned hispanic mcyt scene is very complex and rich and i want to learn spanish to see more now, but I need specifics of why these guys are on my Twitter feed”
The four hispanic streamers more likely you would have learned about this event are.
Luzu: one of the og’s. Quackity’s friend to lover to enemy to friend (??) from Karmaland 5. Thats how many people that were following karmaland 5 (or saw quackity’s mcyt sexymen presentations) learned who Luzu was. In this event probably a lot of people learned about him because he died the first day and when that happened Quackity was with his anglo speaking friends and when he was sad they asked who he was. Spreen explained he was big streamer but Quackity just goes “he was my boyfriend”
Spreen: before this event, he had streamed with Karl! Possibly got introduced to Karl thanks to Quackity and they were doing what men do when they play minecraft together. Flirt! So there was a precedent for all the Karl x Spreen in the squidcraft games X3.
But also I think a lot of people meet Spreen because he stuck close to the anglo group helping them and teasing them alongside quackity. He very quickly started teasing Dream in particular calling him a green screen. And a lot of the banter was very reminiscent of what you see back in the rivals duo (Techno and Dream) days, i have seen more than one interpretation of Spreen reminding Dream of Techno and I have cried every time ;w;
Farfadox: farfa and dream had been tad salty to eachother in some games but their relation was solidified when Farfadox tries to kill Sapnap and Dream got in the way to safe Sapnap. Now Farfadox killing Dream has spawned an entire ship and like… yeah XD typicall fandom reaction
Shadoune: he made it to the quarter-finals with Hannah, George and sap, to the semi-finals with George and Sapnap and then to the finals against Sapnap. Sap did win at the end but Shadoune possibly became very iconic to a lot of the anglo speaking audience since they saw him the most besides their blorbos near the end. And ofc lotta of people went "in Shadoune we trust to carry the Hispanic community to the end!!!" And ofc fandom will be fandom and seeing Sapnap and Shadoune fistfight to the death led to the only logical conclusion “they are kissing” and fandom is running with that atm XD
And i think that's it! this has been a very fun experience! Sylvee and Tina described it as a cultural exchange and it has been like that for me! lol. if you have any more questions feel free to ask
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sleeplessnessthoughts · 2 years ago
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So, to begin with, I wanna make it clear that I’m somewhat neutral on this topic, because I’m still a fan of both sides of this. :) I’m also a relatively new person to the fandom, so I cannot speak on anything that took place before late sept. 2022 when I started introducing myself to this community because I’m not well versed on it.
To begin this, I gotta go back all the way to face reveal and twitchcon time frame, the last time Dream and Quackity publicly interacted with each other on their own volition. It was already pretty obvious that after the event and the Drituation, Quackity started drifting away from Dteam, since their interactions literally became nonexistent, and while it is true that you do not have to always interact online to SHOW that you’re friends, it really speaks for itself when you answer everyone else’s tweets and comments except for a Select Group of People. Then after radio silence came the Quackity and Wilbur wine stream, in which George called Quackity and even Dream was mentioned, but even then, when we were all holding onto dtqk crumbs, Quackity literally showed No Interest on wanting to know what Wilbur was saying about Dream’s music video, people used that clip to show that “loudduo was still alive” but you can tell that he’s Not Interested. At All. Then when George called, Quackity was being distant, even as they joked around, went as far as to decline his call when Wilbur hung up on him. Although it Can be argued that the stream was mainly Quackity and Wilbur and they wanted things their way, not taking that away from them, just something to keep in mind.
VOD for the Wine Stream here.
Dream is mentioned at 2:34:30 and George called at 2:50:20
So, Quackity is distancing himself, although Dream didn’t interact with him as much, Sapnap and George did and got ignored, each and every time, and it was so obvious too. That goes on until the time of the Squidcraft Games in which Quackity DID interact with dtqk a lot more, but even then, it was an event with around 200 other streamers, to call that an interaction is kind of weak, especially when Quackity is a reserved person and does not air his personal Situations. Then when QSMP is announced, Dream shows his support privately and reveals that he also had a similar idea in the works, and whether it was the intention or not, it does look like he’s trying to deflect the attention from Quackity’s project, but at the same time, Dream gets demonized for almost everything he does, if he hadn’t cleared the air about that, he would’ve been called a copycat and everything under the sun, so I get why he did it.
Putting all of that aside, I feel like this all started snowballing when Dream posted that the USMP would be the first multilingual smp in the world and then Quackity posted the same thing for the QSMP, and now as more information and proof comes out that Quackity’s server IS the first multilingual SMP in the world (as he now has added Portuguese speakers) since he had been talking about and hinting his ideas as early as 2022 of my knowledge (I’m not taking into account when he told Wilbur he WANTED to do something to unite both communities he grew up in, only when he started asking people if they would be interested in joining his server) it’s more noticeable that absolutely no communication had been going on between these two for a While, and I also don’t think Dream did take the idea away because even when Quackity hinted the QSMP’s launch, nobody thought it would be that but rather, we all thought it’d be either merch or music, and I myself saw that. I don’t think it’s wrong of Dream to want to do a multilingual SMP either after seeing how well received the Squidcraft Games interactions were, but it just turned into a petty war of who was first, which at the end of the day, doesn’t fucking matter.
Then The Mod came out, and I apologize for forgetting the name but it was a shitshow and I’d rather not remember it. First of all, Quackity did not handle that shit correctly, he lacked an apology, empathy, and sincerity in his statement, saying “I’ve been told the mod is quite offensive so it will be getting removed” is not enough when people are being affected by it, because even if it was used before, even if no one had complained about it before, he’s the owner a server that promotes cultural union, and if a part of your community that practices a culture you’ve wrongfully represented says that they’re not comfortable with the depiction of a hostile mob that has been ridiculed by streamers in YOUR server, you LISTEN to them, because at the end of the day, your audience is your EVERYTHING. Period. Dttwt starts getting attacked and called sensitive and snowflakes over it, that’s when the harassment really starts, and let’s be honest, over the past few months, as Quackity got more popular, his stans just got worse and worse, they’re the most parasocial I’ve ever seen a fandom act, and I‘ve been in armytwt and dttwt. So dttwt gets harassed, and no response from Quackity at the racism that a good portion of his fans are implementing, whether at this point him and Dream have beef or not, your fans represent you, even if you don’t like controversies and drama, your fans attacking anyone and everyone they don’t agree with or think are less than them is very VERY harmful, and should be addressed. While it is true you cannot control a big fan base, and NOBODY, EVER, said that he was going to, addressing negative concerns about your fan base is ESSENTIAL, to show that you CARE about the well-being of those being harassed.
Honestly, it’s a blur after that, I’m pretty sure that what happened next was Dream posting snaps with dates that showed how he was also planning the USPM in early March, which was Very Intentional to show mainly drantis that he didn’t just pull it out of his ass, but it backfired more after streamers such as Wilbur, Philza, and others started promoting the “QSMP is the FIRST multilingual server in the world” and let’s be fucking for real, Quackity started it as a bilingual server, at the end of the day, the only two communities he grew up in was an hispanic and an american one, if he started promoting it as a multilingual server after its launch, then it’s completely different. Anyway, Wilbur and Philza knew EXACTLY what they were doing and how it was going to be perceived.
And that leads us to the fucking Tweets. I’m gonna be honest, Dream should’ve NEVER aired this shit out, at least not something so private and personal such as Quackity literally ghosting him and mutual friends. Not only because us as fans do not need to know, but also because something you should never do, especially as someone so big as him and that has been on the internet for a long time, is be vulnerable online. NEVER. I’m not saying he shouldn’t have addressed the doxxing and harassment situations, of course not, what I mean is: he shouldn’t have mentioned Quackity, at all. It was unnecessary and this I will give to some Q stans, it socially pressures Quackity to respond to him, which is very shitty in my personal opinion. He should’ve kept his tweets about the doxxing, about how his family’s been harassed and how the drama surrounding them is a dumb reason to start a fan war. That’s it. I know he meant well, because the tweet is very vulnerable (THATS THE FUCKING PROBLEM), but it just caused the drift between communities to deepen.
And also, Quackity did not address ANYTHING, but instead, streamed as if nothing is going on. I don’t wanna know his opinion on Dream, I don’t give a single FUCK, I wanted him to address the fact that due to the harassment his fans put others through people’s lives were endangered, not only Dream’s and his family’s (although it is not directly Q’s fault, the rampant hatred from his fandom did amplify the issue and caused him to get doxxed again, which is really fucking shitty and disgusting; not only that, I’ve seen people say that Dream BLAMED Quackity for it, which he did not do, and that it’s not a big deal because he’s been doxxed before, WHICH IS ALSO NOT OK) but also other stans from dttwt who were doxxed and even stalked outside of twitter and had to get involved with the authorities. Over Minecraft servers???? It’s fucking insane, and both of them are in the wrong; Quackity for not addressing it and acting as if everything is ok, and even PRAISING his fans, and Dream for airing out personal issues between Quackity and him that did not NEED to be public especially because Quackity IS a reserved person.
I still stan both Quackity and Dream, and I hope with the entirety of my soul for them to either work it out or fucking block each other already, I don’t care anymore. One more thing, majority of Q stans are fucking immature and parasocial as fuck, and a good part of dttwt as well, we’re all in the same fucking shithole anyways so.
This turned into a vent I’m sorry. ):
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bumblebeerror · 2 years ago
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Dream didn't even do anything wrong this time. His family was doxxed, people showed up, there are credible threats including r@pe threats against his sister and the FBI is involved. He was just explaining the situation in hopes it would calm people down especially after the racism thing. (Sorry if this sends twice, wifi cut.)
You’re all good king I’ll just nix the other one if it comes thru
From what I read the issue they’re having is that he also talked abt him and Q having similar server ideas too? And a lot of people calling that manipulative but like. Tbh thats real speculative. Edit: had the chance to read it - meh. 50/50. It’s worded poorly but from what I’m gathering he’s trying to show the breadth of the hostility between q’s fanbase and his own. He did so badly. Whatever. + yeah him seeming to come out with the same smp is kinda sketch but if Q didn’t answer him I could see it happening. What can I say I don’t really care about the dude beyond like. Can we stop as a whole being shitty to other fandom members who don’t have grooming allegations or is that just. Not possible.
But also I have seen people downplaying him getting doxxed and shit as if qtcinderella hasn’t talked about how getting swatted gave her ptsd and could have gotten her and Ludwig killed, like. If my twitch streaming ever goes anywhere good fucking luck finding what my face looks like no fuckin thanks dude I’d rather not get killed for funnee joke, like that shit isn’t even close to okay even if every allegation against him ever was 100% true
I need to be clear that I’m neutral to the cc, I never really watched his videos or streams, I know very little about him, and because the allegations never really went anywhere I’m just sort of. Idk indifferent to the guy? Waiting to see if anything comes of that? But I do know that every time he says anything ever that Loyal Simplepotatofarmer gets fucking bombarded with anon hate for. Liking his videos at all I guess?? Making rivalsduo stuff?? Idfk but it’s fuckin stupid
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sparxwrites · 3 years ago
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Hi!! I'm the anon that sent that long and uh, "immaculate" ask about the scarian fic :D I'm really happy that you liked it so much, it made my day to read your response <3 (i somehow saw it only days after you responded and i was like "aw man it'd be awkward to respond so late" so... i didn't, sorry ;-;)
But!! I saw you were curious about the Winged Grian lore, so I'm gonna try to expand a bit on what other have already said.
So, there's a few ways that the fandom originates Grian's wings: Avian/Mob Grian, Watcher Grian, or simply Shapeshifting Elytra.
Avian/Mob Grian: Either born as an avian (a person with bird characteristics) or a mob (aka parrot/chicken). This usually presents as: Grian with white chicken wings, parrot wings (either the tri-coloured mc one or other irl parrot species) or custom coloured wings pertaining to his colour palette. Lately, due to Him getting the Dragon Egg and protecting it, people have also been giving him dragon wings, which belongs to the headcanon that his wings have shapeshifting abilities. This headcanon (i can't remember who first made the headcanon, sorry!!) can be found related to the other origins as well. (You might also find older stuff with dragon wings due to a very brief story line at the end of s6).
Watcher Grian: The backstory to this one is pretty big, but to condense it: In Grian's previous SMP series, Evo, there were beings of great power that tasked themselves with creating worlds, updates and so on in the MC universe. It happens that they take an interest in Grian and his server, helping them along the journey of hopping from update to update, beginning from the Alpha build. At the end of the series, right as Grian & co go to the end to defeat the Ender Dragon, Grian is taken by them (this technically was him starting his Hermitcraft series at this point, but lore wise it's a big blank of time). They are not really shown as malevolent, but since we don't really know their true motives, people went on to create their own takes of them. ATUS (And the Universe Shifts) was the most popular HC fanfic for a long long time (it was even read by Cleo) and it is what shaped today's most popular interpretation of the Watchers: entities with too much power and too little compassion, aka pretty evil! Anyway, Watcher Grian is presented as: Purple, lots and lots of purple and void and EYES (the SUPER focus on eyes is a bit more recent, tho), with the Watcher symbol & mask. He's been called (by the fandom) the Red Watcher, Techno's Blood God (due to the red watcher thing) and the Chaos Watcher. Wings usually are purple, void, cosmic, EYES, red, black, his cloak, or a combo of any of those.
Shapeshifting Elytra: this sorta speaks for itself. It's actually a headcanon that is used for all the other hermits as well, due to the focus being on the Elytra, rather than the character's origins! Mostly, the idea goes like this: Elytras take the shape, form and colour of whatever the player is like, unique to each of them. For example, Scar, as he is sometimes (canon and fanon!) a vex mob/hybrid, would have vex wings, sometimes he'd have wings matching his outfits and skins. This is presented as: Grian's wings shifting from watcher wings (s6) to (sometimes, depends on the fan artist) chicken wings (s6) to parrot wings (s7) to dragon wings (s8). That, or simply from parrot species to other parrot or bird species across seasons & smps (like last life).
I think that's all! I miraculously haven't hit the word limit in anon asks, so imma stop here, before i do! Hope this is helpful, but if you'd like to know more, check out @/give-grian-rights, they're basically the expert on Grian and his lore :D I'd also be okay with dms, btw, as long as you are too, but tbh I'd prob just ramble on and on (like I haven't already xD) Hope you have a great day <3
ah, hello again!, and yeah, that’s pretty much what i was aware of - thank you for the very comprehensive guide, though.
i’m very ambivalent about assigning hybrid status to people who don’t have skins that make it very evident they’re some kind of animal/mob cross, but i do very much like wings and i think given grian’s history of bird-related pranks and fondness for flying, i can see where it came from... i’ve seen some of the elytra designs for all the hermits, though, and i loooove them, they’re so good. very fond.
the watchers have shown up in last life since evo (which i have now watched in its entirety; taurtis my beloved...), btw - watch inthelittlewood’s pov for more. they’re pretty unequivocally evil in that. and, i’d argue, they’re also pretty evil in evo. the only reason it gets overlooked is that like... grian is almost worse behaved lmaooo.
...someone remind me at some point, when i’m drowning in work a little less, to write a meta post about how c!grian is, in fact, kind of a Bad Person. especially in evo, where he kills and explodes and burns and traps and teases remorselessly, and generally without asking permission, and often taking it just a few feet over the too far line. and how that makes him more interesting to me, rather than less, this man who’s natural inclination is chaos and violence and explosions and an absence of natively-felt empathy, very carefully reining himself in for the sake of his friends, because he was told to, because they asked him to, because he cares about them and wants to be liked and accepted. and also makes me want to use him as the world’s featheriest football even more, rip.
(also my dms are always open, as a general statement!! i know like... nobody in this fandom, it’s like me and one poor fucker i’ve dragged in after me, please come talk to me about shit. but also please bear in mind, depending on your age, that i am Very Much over 18, and that this blog / myself is intermittently 18+ in the nsfw sense.)
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simplepotatofarmer · 2 years ago
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two roads diverged in a yellow wood
or the similarities and differences between c!techno and c!dream
cc!dream's comments about how his character is similar to c!techno in motivation inspired me to write my first serious lore analysis in forever because it's something i've talked about quite a lot.
there are a lot of similarities between the two, from the fact that they both deal with dehumanization (being seen as a weapon or 'the blade' and being seen as a monster or undeserving of being treated as human) to the fact that they both struggle with showing that they care to their ultimate motivations.
but when it comes down to it, the differences lie in how they respond.
where c!dream leans into his dehumanization (because playing the part of the monster protects him and his plans), c!techno fights against it at every turn. he wants to be seen as a person, he wants to be understood, from his motivations to his reasoning. c!techno tries desperately to get people to see things from his perspective. meanwhile, c!dream doesn't want people to see him as a person because he doesn't want them to look further into his plans, to his reasoning. it's a sort of protection, if everyone thinks he's a senseless villain, they're not going to question him! it allows him to enact his plans without scrutiny.
both c!dream and c!techno want there to be a united server but there's a huge caveat here: techno is an anarchist and dream is an authoritarian. they may have the same motivation but their ways of wanting to enact that couldn't be more different! techno wants a united server insofar as he wants there to be no government, where everyone is free from coercion and there's no leader. on the other hand, dream is completely fine using coercion to have everyone under the same banner, if you will.
something else to note, and i think the most important part, is their relationship with caring and friendships. c!techno used to be someone that thought being alone was the only way to do thing. he thought being alone was the only way to be safe. and c!dream shares this same belief. he dethroned c!george to keep him out of conflict, he told c!punz to pretend to betray him so that punz wouldn't be suspect, and it wasn't until c!ranboo was murdered that dream ever admitted to the fact that they worked together. the difference, the critical difference, is that techno has learned that having friends you care for is a benefit.
and c!dream is still learning that. we see from the last lore that instead of attempting to take down las nevadas alone, he called in his friend and someone who could be an ally, at least for the moment. there was some vulnerability there.
but c!techno had already learned that, had already figured that out, and that's one of the key differences between them. it's their reactions. it's techno saying that he does care and it's dream saying he doesn't give a fuck about anything.
they've had similar experiences but their choices and reactions are what makes them so very different. their motivations are similar but their tactics are on the opposite ends of the spectrum (except for the whole 'yeah let's blow up the government' thing).
it's honestly fascinating because there's so much overlap between the two of them but at each turn, they make strikingly different decisions.
c!techno has been like c!dream (and please, don't get it twisted, this is not me saying he's done things like c!dream has, that's not what this is, it's just that he's been like that, trying not to care, been seen as something not human) but he's farther along his path, he's learned more, he's changed more. techno has taken the steps to do better.
c!dream hasn't, maybe never will, and that's where their paths diverge.
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lookinghalfacorpse · 2 years ago
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Your butterflies idea has got my brain working overtime so as payment I want to share some small ideas:
-the butterflies using their color and wing movement as a sort of code or signal system
-the server being on edge with not being able to tell which butterflies belong to c!dream
-similar idea but with the server witnessing all butterflies seemingly disappearing or a sudden and dramatic increase (both scenarios work with c!dream being imprisoned or escaping)
-the butterflies trying to secretly hang with punz
-the prison and places significant to c!dream being covered in butterflies
-the butterflies having mock eye designs
-c!quackity having to plan on how to not have the butterflies blow his cover
-c!dream’s chat having mixed feelings on ex-friends so there is a mix of avoiding and hindering them in spite or sadly staying close hoping they’ll change their mind
-some of them have designs and attitudes that remind c!dream of long gone attachments
i like a LOT of these ideas, but one in particular kinda stood out...
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"Nah, nah, you keep changin' the subject," Techno said, "I'm not droppin' this until you give me somethin' that at least vaguely resembles an answer. C'mooon."
Technoblade's hooves clacked against the obsidian as he walked around the cell. He seemed a bit energetic that day-- he'd go through periods of exhaustion and stir-craziness at fairly unpredictable intervals. That day was an  animated one.
Dream, on the other hand, was feeling absolutely drained. Sat on the floor and partially curled in on himself, he had a hard time keeping up with his roommate's energy. "An answer to what?" he asked.
"To the question I asked, like, 10 minutes ago! You're re-directin' again, see?" His voice took a steadier tone as he repeated it again, "Why does God look like you?"
"I literally don't know what you're talking about."
"Yes you do! Dude, have you looked in a mirror? Ever? Because if you haven't, let me tell ya, it would be a lot like lookin' at God."
Poetic. Dream scoffed.
"You're an idiot."
"I'm perfectly rational and sane," Techno countered.
"No you're not. Techno, I'm not covered in eyes."
The God they saw-- DreamXD-- did, admittedly, look a little bit like Dream. Much of their features were the same. His nose, his brows, his cheekbones, his jawline. The resemblance was there, sure. But what Dream lacked was the multiple eyes that decorated the god. DreamXD had a few small eyes underneath the main ones on his face, a few up his arms, on the back of his neck, and probably plenty more underneath that flowing cloak of his.
Techno's hooves stilled. His eyes scanned up and down Dream's form, and Dream raised a brow at him.
"You used to be," Techno said.
Technoblade remembered planning Doomsday. He remembered spending some extra time with Dream and Philza during their preparations, and he remembered the stark contrasts between his own chat and theirs. Dream and Phil had elegant and airborne chats; Dream's butterflies decorated the cabins, and Phil's crows sang haunting tunes throughout the forest. Technoblade's chat stayed within his head, repetitious and largely unhelpful.
He'd watch the butterflies land on Dream, clinging to the edges of his armor. The eye-like designs they bore on their wings spread across him, blinking as they fluttered. It was surreal to watch.
Now, locked in a box and lucky to see the few butterflies that were able to sneak in, Dream seemed empty.
"I guess I was, huh," Dream mused.
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made-nondescript · 3 years ago
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Loving the concept of Tubbo and Scar having a tentative friendship arc as Tubbo learns more about Hermitcraft. I think Tubbo would find Scar to be trustworthy, perhaps even a bit familiar in a way?
(I find Scar’s mannerisms and humor to be somewhat similar to Ranboo’s. I imagine Tubbo feels drawn to Scar, but also a bit confused. He wonders how Scar ended up being the mayor at all? He certainly doesn’t act like a leader- at least, not the kind of leader Tubbo knows.)
I think that while it was all initially for the sake of an alliance between the two nations- and Tubbo still wonders what it is they see in his nation? Why does this grand and prosperous server want anything to do with his home? Surely they’ve heard about what happens on the Dream SMP- I think that Scar would end up wanting to get to actually know Tubbo. To know who Tubbo is. Not Mayor Tubbo of L’Manburg, not Tubbo, Ambassador of the Dream SMP, but Tubbo, the kid who’s seen way more than any kid should ever see. The kid who’s looked hell in the eyes and barely made it out alive.
But it’s not just that. Scar knows that this Tubbo kid has clearly gone though a lot, but he can also see so much more to him. Scar can see Tubbo’s muted passion for all the huge bases littered around Hermitcraft. He can see Tubbo’s curiosity about all the crazy farms and redstone contraptions that have become Scar’s day to day life. He thinks, maybe if Tubbo were a bit more comfortable here, then he would be able to really show his true colors.
YES YES YES TO ALL OF THIS !!!
I agree that Scar and Ranboo are actually kind of similar though I would have never thought of that on my own. In particular the way they do kind of lame pranks (like puns, like Scar naming his easter eggs and putting them in obvious places because it's funnier). Everyone likes to write stupid shit on signs and leave them at people's bases. It's like, the most harmless kind of prank and an easy way to break down the walls of the tense kid-ambassador. Also think Tubbo would be a fan of those pranks that require basically doing a whole build for the meme. Maybe not a huge perpetrator of them but he'd think they're neat.
The very first thing Scar thinks when he sees Tubbo is sad. Just everything about him is kind of sad, but he's on Hermitcraft now which means Hermit rules which means it's time to do something fun. Like, immediately. Anything at all to get this kid to look less miserable. Politicians golf, right? They don't have golf but they could go place some minigames! (Highly unsettling to Tubbo, by the way, but he would learn to love them once it was clear they weren't disguised death traps.)
Scar drags him a lot of places that an ambassador doesn't necessarily need to visit: basically every Hermit's base, every shop, some of the farms, and so on. A full tour! with souvenirs! (No contraband, though.) All in a loose attempt to get Tubbo to maybe not stick to the ambassador role so closely.
Sidenote: Doc and Tubbo would get on really well. I feel this in my bones. Tubbo would be really into Doc's game breaking stuff.
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xxzapvanityxx · 2 years ago
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big wels fan and i miss him so im thinking up ideas of my own for headcanons. so far we've got:
-he's the knight of the hermitcraft server, we all know this. that's his thing. but him serving the server world as if it's his lady/lord? as knights (to my knowledge) often treated their ladies as they would their lords. and it wasn't uncommon to see knights serving ideas as their lords, like where they lived and whatnot. the house serving as a lord. i just prefer to call the server his lady when we think about his diabolical rap lines. he refers to hermitcraft as "she". nothing crazy but there's a lot of potential i like here.
-with serving hermitcraft as his lady, he's bound to it by code. you can play with this however you like because there's lots of ways to play with minecraft mechanics for smp headcanons. i like to imagine he's bound by code, so he follows hermitcraft wherever it ends up being. he's in less danger than the other hermits when situations such as the moon impact happen, even if he did technically escape via flying car. i also like to use this idea to say that he is a non-play entity. in which ways? i think you can do anything with that. npc by nature is my go-to for ideas. or he started as an npc and stuff changed as he went along. or maybe he's still fully or mostly npc, with just some crazy ai that's adapted to the hermits. npc and fae creature also works well.
-with having slept through the end of season 6 and beginning of 7, as well as taking a hiatus now from season 9, sleeping is how the server protects him from internal code issues regarding him or her. he's big on sleep anyways to keep monsters away, but there are times when he'll fall into coma-like sleep for extended periods and emerge someplace new most times. you'll never see him when this happens, as the server tends to protect him via vine and tree growth around wherever it keeps him, but he's somewhere outside. however, the extended sleep causes more issues for his physical body and he's saddled with bouts of chronic pain and his legs are always weaker for a long time after he wakes up from these periods. they're much weaker than they used to be, and he can't regain that same muscle, but he can regain some alongside any pain that lingers because of it.
-during these sleep periods that he's unaware of before waking up again, he exists within a plethora of dream worlds. during season 9, this would be his current modded series. they exist between the realm of real worlds off-world of hermitcraft and being fake. it's really wishy washy
other fun headcanons that aren't my go-to but i enjoy seeing around:
-wels is haunted/animated armor. either him or hels is. or both
-wels is just some guy that showed up one day. bypassed server walls and all somehow. he doesn't know either. but in exchange for staying after that little mishap he takes role of knight of the server and makes sure similar things don't happen again. like an added layer to the firewall or some sort of antivirus protector.
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