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I need everyone to watch this right now please
#something about dorky british women is sooo#to me.#like she's my ideal woman#and shes only 4 years older than me wait omg#hello molly rose please call me#the faux bravado of 'the other kids didnt like me so i left'#then her demonstration of her moves#the casual reveal of 'sniffing em and stuff'#then sully's high-pitched 'sniffing em and stuff??'#ive noticed in a couple videos sully seems to find molly rose really funny#i think that's sweet#her response when jon asks if she really sniffed other kids#'yea yea yea' 'did you?' 'no.' 'did you-' 'maybe 🤪'#the immediate 'i dont think it was in a dojo'#the callback to joking about her being 27#i love you nrb#no rolls barred#molly rose treves my number is-
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i now understand how certain people felt when harpy eda was revealed 😳
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#toh#the owl house#toh fanart#lilith clawthorne#hooty#toh finale#watching and dreaming#captioned#WOW. WOOO OW. GOODNESS. MA'AM. QPR PLEASE??? PLEASE??? WOW#i both literally am her and i want to kiss her. Wow!#she is the ideal woman. her particularly early 20th century fashion sense. she's a big nerd. she appreciates history. she's aroace. she's a#bird lady who can fly. she has curly hair. Oh Jeez It Does Not Get Better Than That#sorry anyway i cant believe i won twice in a row with ladies (queen and lilith) who are specifically tailored to me and no one else /j#digital art#illustration#a small victory against my art block even though this took like 4 or 5 days to chip through. but i did it#there are some parts i feel a little clueless about so#critiques welcome#lilith please pick me up and fly my gay ass off into the sunset please im beg
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My thoughts here mainly revolve around YSA as the mary sue/female lead type character:
She goes from being this perfect woman to. just being a woman. And my idea is that the weight gain isn't there to make her "unconventionally attractive," or whatever other dumb phrase you wanna use to avoid calling someone ugly, but to make her conventionally attractive, yet realistic.
Instead of looking like a skinny waifu character, she looks like a skinny human woman. Her hair swaying in the nonexistent wind isn't as perfect, her magic blush is missing and she has eyebags. She's still hot, just more human.
#and if you look at it then the left ysa looks a lot more like her doesnt she?#congratulations if youre the exception but most folk seeing this would prefer the left#or at least feel like the left resembles ysa more#and im not saying this judgementally. 1) i draw tons of women like this and 2) they're drawings and not real life humans#(theres a time and place to discuss representation of body diversity etc but this post isn't about that rn.#its an important discussion that deserves respect and its own space. this is a 5am ramble)#anyways. ysa strays from the ideal woman. she grows to be more human in her behavior and depiction and everything#and it would be quite fun to reflect that in the way she's drawn#orv#omniscient reader's viewpoint#yoo sangah#my doodles#orv meta#i guess?
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that one movie sinbad did about the genie
#my art#dc comics#shazam#captain marvel#billy batson#mary batson#mary bromfield#mary marvel#earth-101#me making the character whose name has gone through a bajillion changes and legal issues into a trans woman and a story of accepting onesel#and the pressure of transitioning and being trans as a public figure#and combining mary and billy into the same character at different points in her life#basically the bit is that kid billy transforms into an adult Woman superhero and is like. what's up with that.#hey wizard. why'd you make me a girl.#and the wizard's like. dead. so isn't able to explain.#and later on kid finds out that the powers transforms you into the idealized version of your self in your heart#and for this kid its a cool and strong lady#cue a lot of weird identity shit and name changes and struggles with self image and being like#''am i trans bc of being the captain or is the captain a woman because i'm trans. is this something i want or do i just feel obligate to.''#eventually big moment of self discovery and she comes out as a woman and changes her name to mary#maybe when she fully comes out she transforms by saying mary instead of shazam as a fun like. ''say my name'' to ''say YOUR name'' reversal#as a symbolic moment of oh. that's me :)#idk. i'm spitballin
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ijbol idk man releasing screenshots of very polarizing things said in a private discord server between friends in a public "callout" post is #the most #tumblrific thing ive ever seen LOL.
#opinion 😱 in tags
#our life#gb patch#gb patch games#our life beginnings & always#i also think it should be acknowledged that the white queer 'experience' and the black queer 'experience' are totally different#bc there are multiple occasions where GBLady has recieved an ask where shes accused of Something bc of a super specific issue#this whole situation is just the biggest case of GetOverYourself ive ever seen icl#i think rose is entitled to their opinion as a black trans person + a person who previously identified as a trans man#i think its easy to attack rose as an inflammatory person who 'purposely incites discourse' bc they dont use that super-pacifying#everyone is welcome on my blog tone that if not used is immediately interpreted by white people as hostility and rudeness#i don't agree with a lot of their takes that ive seen on their blog that were allegedly posted BEFORE they became a sensitivity reader#but irdgaf#bc its their personal blog and theyre entitled to their opinion and i don't believe u get to feel insulted or slighted#or deem them as unprofessional and inflammatory just bc they didnt speak to u on their personal blog as Nicely as u wanted them to#i just think this all leads back to a growing sense of entitlement in the gb patch fan community#esp among the our life fans#just bc this is a deeply customizable game doesn't mean that the dev can customize Every Single Thing to ur liking#it also doesn't mean that ignorance on the devs part or the staffs part in most capacities is purposefully discriminatory in nature#like no offence but wdym 'ur hands are shaking and u need to get offline' bc of all of This... please grow up and go outside#also This is controversial but a lot of yall use the fact that GBLady is a white cis woman who happens to b writing stories#with a very diverse and nuanced cast to railroad ur ideals on how the characters should b written#and if they don't meet Your personal experience as a member of that marginalized community then They are automatically written incorrectly#again just a very entitled community IJBOL#idgaf if u disagree come and kill me over it 🤷🏾♀️#but also im very curious abt what people think !! 👁#i also dk how to phrase this but the white gb patch community also Reeks of this strange entitlement and i hate to say it but . . .#Sensitivity ??#they have this weird almost parasocial relationship with GBLady + this fantastical relationship with the characters themselves#LOL idk if anybody gets what i mean
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rip lucy and mina you would’ve loved farcille. rip marcille you would’ve loved westenray (falin lost interest and fell asleep before finishing the book)
#dracula#lucy westenra#mina harker#mina Murray#Westenray#dungeon meshi#farcille#marcille donato#falin touden#my post#dungeon meshi spoilers in tags: ->#something about it…………idk#childhood girl best friends#a blonde woman who everyone loves and idealizes#proposed to by one of her male friends. has expectations relating to marriage and who she should marry#she’s in peril pretty much immediately. everyone tries to save her but she dies.#she’s unnaturally brought back as a perversion of her former self: a cold blooded killer#the gang has to put her to rest. it’s for the best#luckily Falin is allowed more independence by surviving and having her own story rip#her best friend: an intelligent hard worker/teacher with some gender stuff going on#since iirc it’s possible that mina taught Lucy at some point?#and Marcille was a teacher/researcher at Falin’ s magic school#new women (derogatory) and ‘but those are men’s clothes!!’#all affectionate ofc it makes them more interesting characters#who goes through a mini Dark Arc (vampire mina and dungeon lord marcille)#edit: okay more thoughts. I think that Falin would watch a play or movie and not think too much of it and marcille would go#NOO IT WASNT IN THE SPIRIT OF THE ORIGINAL BOOK!!! listen to the audiobook the adaptations ruin it!!#and Falin would enjoy it more like that
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Tbh I never read that far in DOTC but I heard so much about star flower from fandom that now hearing about it directly from you I feel so cheated. I was promised a femme fatale.. tho in hindsight considering how much these writers hate women I probably shouldn't have gotten my hopes up
I WISH we got a femme fatale. It would have been incredibly cathartic for her to make herself alluring to Clear Sky, turning his worst traits against him and getting both power and revenge. For Thunder to bond to her over it, reaching the conclusion in the end that they both had terrible parents that they need to reject.
but, knowing the Erins, they would have just had Clear Sky kill her violently and gratuitously for ever tricking him. Like how he gouged Willow Tail's eyes out. So... I guess we were doomed either way.
Anyway im cooking
#Bone babble#Anyway yeah. I dont recommend reading further it's bad.#It's bad enough in books 1 - 3 knowing where it's all going and that every woman is going to die violently for male arcs#But 4 - 6 are just infuriating#Read Book 4 for One Eye and change the ending to snake killing clear sky and that's the ideal experience#''Im so glad that this is all over and ive learned nothing.''#And then Snake's paw makes contact with Clear Sky's face and the ending music cuts in#Lmaooooo Jojo's Roundabout cuts in#I want to thread a needle on Starf being a victim like in canon BUT ALSO allowing her to be the badass I think she should have been#Because like. I love her and feel for her as is in-canon#But my strong opinion is that she SHOULD have gotten violent moments and done REAL messy things#Unlike canon which equates her doing literally NOTHING wrong with Clear murdering 3 women and shoving his kid's face in a wound
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frankly biggest under-discussed overlap between baru in masquerade and harrow in tlt is a protagonist who people somehow see as femme because they have a love interest who more people see as butch, despite both characters being...either very fucking butch too or just not fitting into those categories precisely
hell, baru being butch in a very specific way in terms of sexual dynamics she likes playing into is a major fucking plot point!
#baru cormorant#the locked tomb#i'm not exactly invested in whether harrow is definitively butch or not but she's decidedly not playing into any ideal of femininity#and that's pretty clearly either on purpose or to an extent that's identical in result through lack of caring to idk man#baru is Butch butch like she's the butchest character in literally both of these books#tain hu meanwhile honestly I couldn't say i'm not sure she really plays into that role? not really my jam to say for sure or not#gideon is gideon that's obvious#tain hu also has like. you can read the whole book assuming she's a trans woman and it will never contradict you and i knew someone who#literally did that
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like why did they change where Vegeta was when Cell announced the cell games in the anime
why did they make this vegeta starting shit with yamcha instead of chillin in the lab with his family? why did they take Bulma out of the lab? Why'd they say she was Out while Dr Brief was repairing 16? Why did they change Bulma working on advanced robotics to running in late with her baby?
it's the same scene except: - Bulma's actively at work being a scientist - Vegeta's not being rude to her (or anyone else!) - Vegeta waits for Trunks instead of leaving the room - Cell interrupted the airwaves, which means Trunks and Vegeta were just hanging out with Bulma and Dr B while they were working
Those are all Great Character Details!! That the anime rails against!!
#these cowards afraid of showing Vegeta actively choosing to be around his wife and child even when he's Bad#Because Goku who is Good never ever even once makes that choice onscreen outside of filler#and then they justify that choice by making Chi-Chi seem horrid and unreasonable for (checks notes) Not Wanting Her Child to Die#anyway I am once again being bitter about anime vs manga klasjdklasd#I can't believe I let the anime convince me I hated Goku man Goku's SUCH a good and ridiculous character in the manga#the anime just SUCKS at letting him be who he's always been#and has to reframe and recontextualize and reword everything he does so that it seems like he's Actually Quite Mature and Thoughtful nO#THAT's VEGETA YOU COWARDS#also the fact that bulma said she wouldn't live with him at the beginning of this arc to him casually hanging out with her and trunks#after cell beat his ass and humbled him is REALLY GOOD SUBTEXT for their shared relationship having improved without showing it#it's great subtext for all three of them and toei just went 'nah' and decided to make it a whole group shot so ...? Master Roshi could sit#and explain how ??? Tournaments Work??? Just so Cell could log on and also explain how tournaments work?? God it's been so long#since I've watched the anime and now when I do it just makes me mad aklsdjskja the manga is SOOOOO much better#there are some spots where the pacing is more ideal in the anime like goku turning ssj for the first time but like man. everything else is.#like why are you making Goku snarky with Vegeta dude his clapbacks are SO much funnier when they're just Tactless Honesty#like Vegeta's not insulted by Snark bitch he grew up in the Freeza force that man was raised by THE bitchiest drag queens#Vegeta's insulted by someone saying something deeply and insultingly True to his face as if it's the fucking weather#Goku in the anime is like 'a battle of wits hoho' but Goku's purity is part of the joke he's not snippy he's just got no social etiquette#He's just honest! He's not trying to be insulting. That's what MAKES it insulting! That's the WHOLE GAG of why Vegeta can't stand him#Goku is always just telling the truth and it's always the rudest shit Vegeta's ever heard in his life#'it's a sunny day! i'm way stronger than you! see you out there bud!' 10000% Genuinely Friendly. Golden Retriever-Ass Pure.#Infuriating. Hilarious.#anyway I looked at anime clips to make sure I remembered things right and that was a mistake#as someone who has a soft spot for it and grew up on it -- compared to the manga it's bad and it's always been bad#and toriyama was right to be disinterested in watching it jesus christ they BUTCHERED his work#anyway this has been another shot of haterade with sketches thank you for scrolling my rambletags askljdask#dbtag#i just truly can't get over how they make Vegeta call her 'woman' in the anime and he literally only ever calls her Bulma in the manga#except for on namek when he refers to her as 'the/that woman' because she is a complete stranger#why is he calling her woman like he's a 1940s american husband and not an extraterrestrial from a deeply advanced society toei
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Had the extremely upsetting experience of a mutual of like 6 years going off on me for occasionally making posts about supporting Harris because apparently that makes me a g n cide denier who refuses to learn and grow, with all of my views just being assumed not even from what I've told them I believe or what I've posted before, but just because I DON'T post particularly the kind of things they THINK I should be. When I pointed out how much they were just completely assuming about stuff I'd never talked to them about, I was told it doesn't matter what I do in real life or "care" about if I simply disagree with their conclusion and vote for her anyway. Like they were absolutely not sorry for the level of maliciousness they not just assumed of my character, but for some reason thought appropriate to bring directly to me before unfollowing me. No apology whatsoever for how discomforting or upsetting that might be and certainly no acknowledgment that I could disagree with them and still be a good person. I just got another even longer rant about how they fundamentally can't fuck with me because of this one thing, no matter WHAT else I do in my real life (which I pointed out that they do not know), and how I'm directly supporting fascism.
Like seriously what is it about Tumblr that makes people think they know someone based off of occasional posts? There were just such DEEP assumptions they were making of me and going off of very little or absolutely nothing. Around the time I first became mutuals with that person I used to express my personality and beliefs and talk about what was going on in my life a lot more openly, but I've significantly scaled back on doing that in many ways for many reasons. One of my major ones is privacy and the way I've had strangers outside my followers and following circles just find random things I say and dogpile me for it. I was fundamentally changed after some T Fs did that to me like 3 years ago. I also just didn't have many conversations w that person anymore (I message people in general on here like 10x less than I did circa 2018-2019, which I'm somewhat sorry about!). My point is to say I think this person felt comfortable assuming that they knew me, especially who I am in 2024 at the age of 25, much better than they actually did.
One of the specific things they accused me of was being afraid of learning and growing (because I don't perform social media activism on here like they think I should). Like AFRAID to take criticism. When again I've never received criticism from them or had to respond to any criticism on here before as pertaining to my views on... well, absolutely any of the issues they accused me of not caring about. They essentially treated it as if the only thing in the world I cared about was the US election and characterized me as the most out-of-touch liberal they could possibly imagine, because I'm not "pushing" Kamala Harris to be better (Oh?? Should I do that on here?? Does she read my blog??).
And most hypocritically what they said was that I only *sometimes* *vaguely* post pro-Harris things (I often post like 5 or fewer things in a day though?). But here's the kicker. "Because I know I'll get shit for it. And rightfully so."
Really????? Not a single person, anon or not, in my messages or in a tagged post or anything, has ever given me shit before for saying who I'm voting for. I'm actually NOT afraid of "getting shit" for that opinion, I just don't start fights with people who are anti-voting. And why should I??? I genuinely don't believe in trying to change the minds of strangers on the internet about that sort of thing. I'm just not confrontational about it; that is so not the same thing as being "afraid of getting shit." I'm not posting ENOUGH about my support for Harris, therefore I'm afraid. But therefore they can also make all these assumptions about me being their strawman for an ignorant Harris supporter.
I'm afraid of getting shit but I still post anyway? But if I weren't afraid of getting shit I'd be posting a lot more?? This is ALL based on their assumptions of what my blog *should* look like, based on what I really and truly believe. My level of posting every now and then is an accurate gauge of my feelings on complex, sensitive, global issues. Because I'm voting for the Democratic presidential candidate and I'm ok sharing pretty much just that little glimpse of myself.
I really don't think that person knows just how inappropriate and insulting that is to just say all of that to me. Like they really know what's going on in my head. Their first message began and ended with like "I'm sorry I love you I just can't take it anymore" but they clearly weren't sorry enough to try and be more respectful to me, and they didn't love me enough not to default to extremely ungenerous assumptions and attacking me based off of those instead of any actual words I've said that they take issue with.
Online radicalization is real and it's not necessarily bad because your political views can start to fall well out of the contemporary Overton window. The way you find it appropriate to treat people whose views, however common, seem to fundamentally misalign with yours... that does matter. You can't just assume the worst of everyone and then act on that in how you approach them as individuals. And then be shocked that you don't stay friends with them. You can't be confrontational with someone about an issue you've never had an honest conversation about, and then expect them to take your bad faith in them as reasonable well-meaning criticism.
I'm afraid of criticism??? I'm afraid of criticism. No I'm not. This person and I have never had an issue before where they criticized me and I got harshly defensive. It was ALL projection. The entire tone of their messages was as if all their anti-voting posts recently were somehow in communication with the occasional go-vote-for-Harris posts that I make. That's not a conversation. I don't post for your satisfaction. I don't post in "response" to my mutuals I disagree with. I just post what's on my mind, sometimes, about some things. I really again can't stress enough how baffled I am by this
#tales from diana#long post#this is not really a post about voting this is a post about online etiquette#i also remember that this person at one point when we were teenagers had a crush on me#so they might have somewhat idealized me or maybe just had respect for the good times#good conversations we had over the years etc#i still held them in regard even though some of their anti-voting posts i took serious issue w#again i really don't care to argue w ppl against voting bc really i mainly only disagree w that one conclusion#the systemic critiques that were made in those posts i don't think make them bad ppl#i sympathize w why someone might think that way#i just cannot pretend that i think nothing changes if we have dt as president again#i can't act as if im not anxious at the state of the world we're in where we're seriously at risk of that#i don't have that same level of concern about harris. i don't. i don't think theyre the same#i think they diverge in so many meaningful ways but im usually not writing detailed long thoughtful posts about it#do i have to??? for TUMBLR?? id rather not...#but i don't wish to be confronted as if these are nuances i MUST not hold in my opinion#can't stress enough they were basically calling me a g n cide denier like that's just a cool ok thing to do#i have literally never made a post about ppl not voting for harris bc of the war in gaza#i specifically haven't not because im 'afraid' but bc i don't believe in comparing those 2 things#there was gonna be a presidential election this year anyway and there does not have to be this war#if u think dems aren't doing well enough on the war for u to vote for them. i can't argue w u#but i was always going to vote anyway#again im afraid of getting shit?? ONLY this person has EVER given me shit until now#im not pushing harris enough? how tf do u know that? bc im not reblogging ill-informed posts from ppl like u?#im not PUSHING this woman running for president enough bc im not writing critical posts she and her advisers will never see#about how im threatening to withhold my vote from them. something id never honestly do considering the opposition#they kept stressing to me to about how they weren't a trump supporter when *i* never said as much to them#i do agree that not voting for harris 'supports' trump in that it benefits him overall#but i don't attack ppl who just aren't voting in that way. ok?#damn i hate being on the defensive like this
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Ano bang ginawa kong mali? [ t/n What have I done wrong? ]
Barbie Forteza and Julie Ann San Jose as KLAY & MARIA CLARA
MARIA CLARA AT IBARRA (2022-2023) 1.36
#maria clara at ibarra#barbie forteza#julie ann san jose#actually they're both maria claras#and KAS1 is nothing if not my favorite subject#whew to meet the idealized woman you're named after#sure 'noli' is more of part of rizal 101 but the intriguing take is not only a refresher but to make it about kasaysayan/tapestry of worth#that klay can't just cheat around#she has to live with the character too (i assume this extends all the way to 'el fili' if she has to finish The Tale#from not-like-other-girls-ing her way to this buildup *kisses the narrative*
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Hey did you guys know Reeve is the one who had to tell Elmyra and Marlene that Aerith died in the original game. I think about this constantly
#I’ve never truly Reeveposted here but if I did it would just be posts like this#cait tells you this if you speak to him in the Highwind. he says Elmyra and Marlene both cried their eyes out#the idea of Reeve who has been spying on the gang but has come to really care about them despite his hesitance and misgivings#watching aerith die#and knowing that with Tseng out of commission and the Turks handling stuff for Rufus. no one is going to think about telling Elmyra.#and he already has her and Marlene under surveillance. and it’s the worst fucking thing in the world but someone has to tell her#ugh. Ough. AUGH.#reeve a guy caught between his ideals and the rock they’ve been ground underneath having to go tell this woman that her daughter is dead.#and he’s so fucking sorry about it.#and there’s nothing anyone can do to fix it#and if Elmyra throws something at him or yells at him it’s no less than he deserves but honestly.#considering aerith could tell when elmyra’s husband died#I think she probably already said goodbye to her mom. and reeve’s news is just confirmation#and that’s somehow even worse#ugh.#text#reeve tuesti#ff7#I’m tagging these for my purposes so uh sorry if this is in the main tags
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Thinking about the idea of Helen's desire for kleos, and how she is limited in the ways in which she can achieve it as a woman, it is rather interesting to see how the most 'obvious' solution to it is avoided — through children.
The main consensus surrounding Helen's number of children is that she gives birth to one, a girl called Hermione. Some sources bring up several others, but the earliest and most consistent child mentioned (and birthed by Helen) is her:
He was bringing Alector's daughter from Sparta for his son, mighty Megapenthes, grown up, who'd been borne him by a slave. The gods no longer made a child appear for Helen after she gave birth to her first child, lovely Hermione, who had the form of golden Aphrodite. (Homer, Odyssey, OD.4.10 - ca. 700 BCE)
MENELAUS [Laurentian Scholiast on Sophocles' Electra, 539]: 'And she (Helen) bare to Menelaus, famous with the spear, Hermione and her youngest-born, Nicostratus, a scion of Ares.' (Hesiod, Fragments, CW.F70 - ca. 650 BCE )
Now Menelaus had by Helen a daughter Hermione and, according to some, a son Nicostratus; and by a female slave Pieris, an Aitolian, or, according to Acusilaus, by Tereis, he had a son Megapenthes; and by a nymph Cnossia, according to Eumelus, he had a son Xenodamus (Apollodorus, Library, 3.11.1 - ca. 100 CE)
When Orestes became king of the Lacedemonians, they themselves consented to accept him for they considered that the sons of the daughter of Tyndareus had a claim to the throne prior to that of Nicostratus and Megapenthes, who were sons of Menelaus by a slave woman. On the death of Orestes, there succeeded to the throne Tisamenus, the son of Orestes and of Hermione, the daughter of Menelaus (Pausanias, Description of Greece, 2.18.6 - ca. 174 CE)
It seems the later the sources get, the more children are added (look at that Apollodrus extract! Menelaus has been around!); but even then, Hermione is always mentioned, and often mentioned as the only legitimate child of Helen and Menelaus.*
*Yes the Scholiast on Euripides, Andr. 898 Cypria fragment does mention Pleisthenes the third born child, but... we're ignoring him (lol). As far as I'm aware he's only mentioned once and also no confirmation he's legitimate. Sorry Pleisthenes.
Now, let's talk about that a little. Helen giving birth to a daughter, and proceeding to not have any more children after that raises an important point — Helen does not produce an heir for her husband. Helen, as Menelaus' wife is expected to do that but she simply... doesn't. She has one child and that's it. Sometimes that one child isn't even intentional:
And she (Helen) bare neat-ankled Hermione in the palace, a child unlooked for. (Hesiod, Fragments, CW.F68 - ca. 650 BCE)
unlooked-for = unexpected; unforeseen.
However, as Ruby Blondell mentions in 'Helen of Troy: Beauty, Myth Devastation':
"In normal circumstances such failure to bear a son would jeopardize a Greek wife's position, since it denies her a woman's primary avenue to status within her husband's household. Since she did not relocate upon marriage, however, Helen needs no sons to establish her status at Sparta. Moreover, the absence of a son helps her maintain her independence. When a son grows up, he becomes another source of male authority over his mother." (pg. 32-33)
She has different circumstances from her peers; she doesn't need children to retain her status. In fact, if she were to bear a son it might be worse for her position.
This would explain her reluctance for children, if the lack of them was indeed a choice. Nonetheless, it's worth exploring the possibility that it is unintentional. There's certainly evidence for it being so, if we look at how Hermione fares in adulthood with her own fertility:
(to Andromache) but as for thee, slave and captive, thou wouldst fain oust me and secure this palace for thyself, and thanks to thy enchantment I am hated by my husband; thou it is that hast made my womb barren and cheated my hopes (Euripides, Andromache, 117 - ca. 425 BCE)
Helen is struggling to have children, and now Hermione is struggling to have children — like mother, like daughter. Is the infertility hereditary? Or perhaps there are some godly influences afoot:
TYNDAREUS Scholiast on Euripides' Orestes 249: Stesichorus says that while sacrificing to the gods Tyndareus forgot Aphrodite and that the goddess was angry and made his daughters twice and thrice wed and deserters of their husbands (Hesiod, Fragments, CW.F67 - ca. 650 BCE )
While this extract focuses only on Tyndareus' daughters and their infidelity, it wouldn't be a stretch to say that the curse of a god could extend to multiple generations of a family (e.g. the house of Atreus) and in other ways — in this case, not being able to get pregnant/have a successful pregnancy.
However, considering the infertility as an intervention by the gods, I don't think that this is necessarily a 'curse'. This feels more like fate. That, regardless of whether it is Helen's choice to have just Hermione or not, it is destined to happen. The subtext being 'just Hermione' and no more.
Blondell mentions that in Theocritus' poem The Epithamaly of Helen, the chorus pray that Helen bears Menelaus a child that resembles herself. If we take the quote from The Odyssey earlier, of Hermione 'who had the form of golden Aphrodite', we can assume that prayer is fulfilled. Blondell also says:
"There is something a little strange, however, about the chorus's prayer. ... since there is no doubt about a woman's identity as a mother, the crucial point, for a husband, is that his wife's offspring should resemble him. It seems strange too, at a wedding, to pray in effect for a daughter as opposed to a son and heir." (pg. 32)
Helen will have a child, and it will resemble her, but that's it. No sons, no heirs.
Enter stage left: Zeus' plan to reduce the population of demigods by having a beautiful daughter, who will instigate a long and bloody war.
How do you get such a daughter to instigate a war? By leaving her husband because she desires more than the cards she has been dealt.
If Helen does desire kleos, but is essentially barred from achieving it in the ways a woman traditionally does, then she must seek it elsewhere.
In choosing to leave with (effeminate, unconventional) Paris: If she doesn't wish to have children, maybe she thinks she can escape the 'inevitable' fate of all wives to bear a son and be known only as their mother — she will seek kleos elsewhere. If she does wish to have children, maybe she has tried to bear children, many, many times after Hermione and cannot, and in that shame of failing to meet the minimum standards of being a woman — she will seek kleos elsewhere.
Whatever her feelings are on the matter, fate remains the same: Helen will have a daughter that resembles her, and Helen will go to Troy with Paris. The facts still remain the same too: Helen cannot bear a son, and this separates her from womanhood. She cannot successfully be a woman by society's standards, and cannot make her legacy her children.
She must find kleos in other ways.
#helen of sparta#greek mythology#hermione of sparta#menelaus#analysis#im certain there are other sources that bring up children but I thought this would suffice to illustrate my point. Hermione is always there#Also: are there sources that mention children via Paris? yes there are - but that's *after* leaving to Troy.#So it doesn't really matter after that point speaking in terms of fate. She's already left her husband! War will break out.#Anyways I found this train of thought really interesting and wanted to write a post about it <3 Helen is so complex and sad </3#she's the most beautiful woman in the world. but is she the most moral or ideal woman in the world by her society? not really.#she's so unconventional and that comes out in many different ways (like this)
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saw tags on @lottieurl ‘s post and now I find myself also asking the question what does saira think about gay marriage. she hates straight marriage because of its patriarchal origins and family trauma ofc… does it extend to gay marriage? is she talking about the Islamic concept of marriage or the social/economic model of marriage? does she distinguish between the two? does she know that there are imams who do gay marriages? does she know she wants to get gay married? to amin-
#many many thoughts#plsssssss I need to know what do you all think#in my very very humble opinion I think she is primarily talking about social/economic marriage AND the practice of Islamic marriage when it#abused and manipulated by men#i don’t know if she distinguishes between the ideal Islamic model of marriage and how it is actually practiced by human beings but I do so t#that’s my bias talking#tbh some ppl r surprised to learn that there are imams who do gay marriages so i don’t know if she knows#Possivly is it one of those situations where what she abhors from a man she would love from a woman? maybe#tbh I think she is aware of her queerness but has not accepted it specifically because of the internalized homophobia you sometimes get when#there’s already so many other things quote unquote wrong with you. or so many ways you have already failed in the eyes of society#that it is simply too overwhelming to think about exploring that part of yourself In Real Life Permanently#I’m also fully projecting bc that’s how I was with my transess I was like well this is hard so I will pretend it is not true.#saira sherwani#we are lady parts#walp
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i’m sure i’m setting myself up for failure here but genuinely i have such high hopes for the ranma remake…. the idea of a ranma remake has been my no.2 anime pipedream for years because i just think if they took out some of the homophobia transphobia sexism racism ableism etc it would be the perfect harem. lmao. (i can be your token “if only ranma wasn’t literally trash” ranma fan..) they just need gay kissing and they can double the complexity of the love dodecahedron so it can become peak camp. do you see my vision. plus i’m really interested in seeing a story that was so influential to anime romance/harem as a whole cycling around to being part of that wider genre discussion again. i mean i think modern harem is the epitome of anime content slop, but is it too much to hope that ranma can revolutionize the genre once more……..
#okay not ALL modern harem is content slop. my next life as a villainess is stupidly good. like. it’s really good…..#but yeah i had been talking with my mom about our ideal modern ranma remake (a conversation i assume everyone is familiar with /s)#and not even three days later it was announced and it blew my mind. did we rlly manifest that shit with the power of generational otakuism#this is the problem with 90s geek teen pregnancy#young woman holding up a five year old saying “good lord she’s never seen inuyasha”#frogs.txt#ranma 1/2#anyways that’s a fun sullivan loredrop for you all#also if you were wondering my number 1 anime pipedream is hxh getting finished. so i may be in the best timeline
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God the grip this woman has on me should be studied by science.
#GOOD GIRL??? i need to lay down#obviously i immediately brought her to the event's final boss and wiped the floor with them#i don't think i've ever had a character stick with me for so long except her she's always there#i am more invested in other games more these days and she still one-shots me on sight with stuff like that#i dunno what it is. combination of design and personality and imagery and also voice#and type redline shoutout to type redline nobunaga who makes me feel things tumblr won't allow me to disclose#fgo#ray's records#no matter where no matter what whenever i see her my heart cheers because she's the ideal woman and it knows it
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