#like i said i dont stan ikon

[dakbees]

wkesfdjiwf your response ok so i completely forgot i told you about cravity, and yes you got allen and the other dude is woobin or wonjin (two different people) so close enough!! maybe you mixed them up snsdfn also i....don't remember who u said was cute sorry babe

2pm yay!! close lol!! and i'll take jokwon, he's so close to them that it pretty much counts. Taecyeon is right, and then it's nichkun so different spelling but yeah pretty much right. And then there's jun.k, wooyoung, junho, and chansung

ikon babe jay and jinhwan are the same person lmaooo but granted he and DK (donghyuk) got their stage names late into their debut so they don't really feel real yk

anyways good job proud of u <33

JUNHO AND JUNK NO I KNEW THEM BUT FORGOT.. ive heard of wooyoung and chansung is a new name to me so 🤡

also whew okay i remember ikon got Hip New Stage Names in like 2016 and even tho i dont stan them i still get their stage names mixed with their real names (apparently chanwoos stage name is chan.. oops) kdbsja

[softbabyeveryday]

YEDAM IS GOD

[seonfhwa]

bruh are we really still at a point of announcing that you’re an army and that you’re supporting another fan group like idrc that you’re an army 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️ it means nothing to me lol just support who you want and stop announcing who you stan

[aliive-but-not-liiviing]

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[maximura]

[english isn’t my first language so i’m sorry if i didn’t explain myself well or my choice of words were not the best :3 ]

i saw you’re post about kingdom and as much as i hate to admit it i actually agree with you,,

i don’t understand the system of the points like ?? i dont stan either sf9 or ikon but for the life of me i cant understand why they scored so low.. allegedly mnet said that the votes are made by judges and the other groups competing on the show but i cant understand why ikon ranked so low.. it was very clear that the other groups enjoyed their performance going as far as saying that they hope ikon ranks high and as for sf9 you can see the passion and improvement of this stage compared to the intro stage...

don’t get me wrong i love stray kids and they did absolutely amazing on their stage however i feel like there was something missing in their stage i just cant put my finger on it... and not to be *that* person but for some reason this performance of stray kids reminded me a lot of oneus’ performance of “be mine” during rtk..

ALSO, i cant comprehend why the fandoms are fighting (this is a call out to people on stan twt) like i thought we agreed that mnet and their management is trash ?? so why ? are ? we ? wasting ? our ? energy ?? mnet WANTS the fandoms to clash because it kinda encourages being competitive

if the fandoms are competitive = more publicity and views

ALSO the views being part of the criteria of the votes is so stupid !! highkey think mnet only included it in the criteria for the ad revenue

idk these are all personal opinions, i would love to hear about what you think :>

It can’t be based on views because IKON consistently do way better/as good as most of the other groups except SKZ. I like to think that some of us are smarter about this whole competition because this is a deliberate/pre-planned Drama designed by MNET to get more views and revenue. I don’t understand what’s the point in wasting energy in fighting. That’s exactly what they want. 

I don’t watch anything but the individual performance videos (with no reactions/comments edited into it). I don’t understand the points system nor do I care. I also don’t care about the judges opinions. 

I’m a minimalist though. I just want to the talent shine through. I don’t care about props or acrobatics. It’s not a Prop Competition. But that’s just me. People will enjoy Kingdom however they want. 

We know either SKZ or ATEEZ are winning this. I knew that before this even started. I’m not going to be mad about it or anything because they put a high level of effort into all their stages so far but well, I’m still a little sore about Hyunjin and Mingi not being there. There is something missing. You’re not alone in that thought. But considering what both groups have been through, it’s understandable. 

IKON and BTOB ain’t winning shit. We know this too. I’m not mad about it. I just want these guys to have fun. IKON has been through so many survival shows, I highly doubt they’re going to really care about being ranked as losers when their views have been great. The discordance says it all. 

I’ve been an IKON fan since the beginning and they’re never been one for major props/theatrics/acrobatics. It’s just not their style. So if that’s a major criteria in Kingdom, they can expect to rank poorly. 

Anyways. I will look on the bright side of all this. Exposure is good for all their careers. Sympathy votes also counts for a lot haha. I’m not gonna play MNETs game. I’m already a very bitter angry person most of the time so no no MNET, I know your game now bro. 

I invite everyone to enjoy this hilarious masterpiece with me. 

[sanstropfremir]

excited to see what you have to say about todays episode cause like the other person said, the stunts from the atz/skz/btob also looked lowkey awkward to watch lmao. i feel like the dance part cant really be judged against each other just based on how different they were. also the ikon/sf9/tbz rap performance was much more khiphop inspired while skz/atz/btob were basically "kpop group's rapline does a unit stage" if you know what i mean lmao. im curious to see if you're going to talk about the judges and how some of them were picked solely to have exposure👀 or if there might be a reasoning behind all of them (the dance girl i understand but like... okay)

also, i have to ask if you watched rtk and if you'd feel comfortable sharing who you think should've won/if the boyz deserved it? as a deobi i know its not that big of a deal but i was lowkey proud and stunned by them during rtk and while i think they're doing good on kingdom too, their performances became way too overwhelming/doesn't leave an impression after for my little brain 🙃 i love them tho. also not that you care but i wish they would represent more their full dance line, because juyeon is doing amazing but it can be mentally and physically tiring to be the ONE guy who does all the dance and center parts, like do it as a trio or smt dont push it all on him while there are ten others on the team

i hope you enjoyed my (very) long review and my apparently literally opposite opinions from everyone else! that’s a lie they’re not opposite, i'm just looking at very different things. thank you for also clocking that the performance stages were two different styles! i'm fairly certain the rankings arent out yet for that stage at least, so i'm not envious of the judges having to decide between two performances that are pretty much on opposite ends of the spectrum. also i did make a mistake in my review, i just watched the first half of the episode and they do in fact call it the dance stage, so that’s on me. my point still stands though, group dancing is still dancing.

as far as the judges go........why are we upset about them.....? honestly they all seem fine to me. i mean, i can understand people being pressed about s*ju because they make people mad by just existing, apparently, but that doesnt negate the fact that they have nearly two decades of experience in the industry. if they arent going to have changmin do any judging than they might as well get some other sm vets, since yanno, they did kinda establish the industry (sm, not s*ju. although s*ju is the first kpop group i ever remember hearing way back in like, 2008. in canada. before having a personal device with internet access. sooooooo). and i mean, we all have opinions on the separation of art and artist and everyone can draw their own boundaries of who they choose to consume the work of, and that’s valid. i have lots of those lines too. but you can’t deny the sheer amount of experience, and shindong is a director and music video producer, so he ain’t stupid. i dont see any problems with having a lineup of some idol veterans, a frankly incredible choreographer, and some producers. oh wait, are people mad about the rookies????? why are people mad about the rookies?????????????? huh????????????? have people forgotten that rookies spend literal YEARS training before they even debut??? they’re not incompetent, they’re members of the industry that have worked hard to be there and have valid opinions and abilities to recognize what they think is good?? also.......what’s wrong with doing something for exposure? how do you think groups get popular in the first place? fuck, the prize for kingdom is a variety/reality show! which is exposure! you know that’s how arts marketing works, right? if you want people to listen to your music, you have to advertise it to people. you need an audience. if a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, does it sell thousands of albums? thousands of tickets? why are you invalidating artists on the basis of wanting more exposure? are you worried they’re not going to ‘judge fairly’??? you know none of these groups' reputations are going to be hurt by their placement in the show, right. these are all high level groups already, with established brand rep. THEY are doing this show for exposure too. is this what people are complaining about on twitter?? so every stan account promoting fancams and comeback dates under hit tweets has to delete them now because artists aren’t allowed to do anything for exposure anymore. ?????? am i too old??? what happened to make people think that exposure was bad???

i have only watched the stages from rtk, and not while the show was airing, so i dont really have any context for the show as a whole. do i think they deserved to win? i dont really think anyone ‘deserves’ to win a competition show, but they did produce a couple of phenomenal stages, so was i surprised? no. personally i would have picked pentagon because they had the best vocals and also they took a few more conceptual risks that paid off really well. their cover of follow is a fantastic remake and honestly we need more dramatic remakes like that, ones that really change up the sound. i made a couple of conclusions about tbz in my episode four review that are relevant here (they’re at the end of the tbz section). although tbz are good performers, the problem is theyre trying to showcase those skills by being heavily conceptual, but their creative team is ALL over the place and nothing is landing. I dont think they’re doing terrible in kingdom, they’re doing very well, but their creative team is not providing them with a stable conceptual base. i know i make designing sound relatively simple, but it's not at all. i'm just smart and very good at my job. there are a lot of mediocre designers out there, and tbz just do not have a good creative team for kingdom. and i do actually think it's a shame that they’re fronting juyeon so much, because one of their strengths IS their group work. they have a more of a contemporary flavour than most other groups at the moment and they can do some really sharp synchronization that should to be seen more. i wish they had actually done group work for the performance stage, because we’ve already seen juyeon do a solo stage, plus he has solos in all the stages. give him a break and let the others have a chance to do something at least.

[sungminsbutt]

MY MOM’S BIAS LIST

hi hello my loveesss, long time no see! today imma post my mom’s bias list(yes that’s an actual thing). basically i got into kpop bc of mom(long story which ill tell another time) and she’s the one who got me into a lot of groups(suju, uniq, got7, monsta x, astro, vav, exo, ss501 etc). honestly it’s enough for me to tell her i wanna get into a group or i started stanning a new group for her to find me at least 10 variety shows, 5 dramas w the members, 100 facts bout each other and etc.

she doesn’t stan all the groups i do, and has very weird reasons for “why she likes a certain person from each group”(imma explain them in the list below.

ENJOY!  Super Junior:

im not really sure who her suju bias is cause at every super show she has a new bias. but she says Siwon is super hot and the best visual of south korea, she likes Donghae especially when he smiles and Kyuhyun cause he looks educated and cute. also Henry cause he looks like me?????

Monsta X

both Hyungwon and Hyunwoo. Hyunwoo cause he’s awkwardly cute, dad like and mom is obsessed with his voice. Hyungwon cause he’s tall, hot and mom wants me to marry him (iTS nOT tHaT iM cOMplAiNinG THo)

GOT7

okay this one is pretty interesting. mom is absolutely enamored with Jaebum’s voice. but on the other side, she always said he’s ugly. but after watching dream knight she went like “well he’s really handsome and i like his style” and after that he posted a pic on ig and mom went like “nah bro he’s ugly” again. also she hates his piercing. but anyways, after EVERY.SINGLE.PERFORMANCE. she goes like “nah kid i definitely like him”

VAV

to put it simply, Ayno. mom thinks he’s pretty and she loves the way he raps

EXO

Sehun. mom finds him kinda weird but as she says, “smoking hot”. if things go wrong with Hyungwon, mom also wants me to marry Sehun. also Jongdae bc of his voice(mom really thinks his condom accidentally broke and now he’s marrying his fiancee only bc of that, oKaY mOM)

SHINEE

im not sure if she actually has a bias in shinee, but she said several times that Kibum is cute and she likes him when he’s not bald

Jekki

mom doesnt know anything at all bout them but i showed her an older stage and she said Honny was handsome and then i showed her how he looks as now and she said that he’s DEFINITELY handsome

ASTRO

your classic opinion: Eunwoo. 3rd one whom she wants to marry me

UNIQ

mom accidentally found out bout them after watching “Chasing Ball”. we watched 3 mvs and every time she pointed to Yibo saying he’s hot. well, let it be Yibo.

TVXQ

Yunho is mom’s man. dont touch him

BTS

Taehyung. mom basically melts evertime she sees him. loves his husky voice and says his smile is weird. also Hoseok cause again, i apparently look like him. also, she said that lately, Hoseok had became super hot and manly.

SuperM

Lucas. she asked me several times who the Minho-looking tall guy is

IKON

mom never really watched anything related to ikon before. but this comeback she saw the Donghyuk teaser pics and always said he’s super handsome

Ateez

Jongho. mom is basically always asking me who “is that cute guy”. plus, they share the same birthday!

hope y’all enjoyed this! 

[thesunnyshow]

EPISODE 41 BONUS ROUND: K-POP CONFIDENTIAL

Name: Kris  Writing Blog URL(s): @peachy-jjh​ 

What groups do you stan? Bear with me, it’s a lot: NCT (OT21), ATEEZ, The Rose, BTS, EXO, Day6, Seventeen, TxT, Monsta X, Stray Kids, GOT7, KARD, SHINee, iKON, N. Flying, ASTRO, B.A.P., Super Junior, Bigbang and I’m in the process of getting into ACE, The Boyz, and Pentagon

Who are your biases? JAEHYUN, Jeno, Kun, Hongjoong, Dojoon, Jimin, Chanyeol, Wonpil, Woozi, Yeonjun, Wonho, Changbin, Jackson, J. Seph, Jiwoo, Key, Junhoe, Jaehyun, Rocky, Eunhyuk, and G Dragon

If you could do one activity with your ult, what would it be? Definitely go vinyl shopping and then just have a conversation over a drink

Why do you think people love idols and their stories so much? I think people can maybe relate to them or identify themselves with some idols and it makes them feel more connected to them. Idols are also overall very admirable because there’s a lot of work that comes with being an idol. They also are usually very loving and respectful towards their fans so in turn, the fans return said love and respect.

Where do you think the line between fantasy and reality should be drawn? I think it should be a very clear line. Having fantasies is essentially harmless and that includes writing or reading others’ works, but I dont think these fantasies should be projected onto one’s actual life or worse, the idols themselves.

What would you do if you met your bias in real life? I’d probably be too starstruck to do anything. If I were to interact with them for whatever reason, I’d probably cry and not be able to get a word out.

Is there a need for reform in the industry? Definitely, at least some parts of it. It’s obvious that some idols and groups are mistreated and I think that needs to change. I also believe this placing of idols on a pedestal and leaving no room for them to make mistakes without immediately being “cancelled” or treated badly needs to change as well. I’ve seen too many idols leave their band over mistakes that they simply should have just been allowed to apologize for. 

If you could be a K-pop star, would you? Probably not, I don't believe I have the work ethic needed. I’m not sure I’d really like that lifestyle.

What would you do if you found out that an idol read one of the stories you wrote about them? I’d be pretty mortified, but at the same time because i need the validation, I’d want to know what they think of the writing XD

Why did you choose to write for a real person vs. a fictional one? As someone who has written for both, I think I look at the story I want to tell as a whole and see who fits it more. However, even when I’m writing for a real person, as mentioned before, that person is more of a character that is inspired by the real person, and not a depiction of the real person themselves.

Has K-Pop changed your life in any major way? Yes, definitely! It’s allowed me to interact with so many new people as well as learn so many new things! It’s also helped me be more confident in myself and more loving towards myself.

[godwangit]

Seeing hate towards ikon (or any other group tbh) triggers me, because as an ARMY i see my boys being attacked left and right and i really dont wish that on anybody/any group. its awful, because they dont deserve it, no one deserves it.

[you-did-well-moon]

I was tagged by my pokemon trainer @cutebutapsychoo thanks for the tag lovely!!

1. It’s your birthday! What did you ask for and did you receive it?

Um it was either of two things (actually three). I asked to go to go back to Destin Florida which is a place with a lot of good memories for me, or i asked to go to Mexico. Both cant happen because of obvious reasons. It was either that, or i asked for albums which probably came in one piece because i know where to order them from by now lol.

2. What was the last song or album you listened to?

umm let me check Oh the last song i listened to was Let Me Out from the album of "The collection story op.2" by Jonghyun

3. What is your go to snack when you’re hungry or bored?

Goldfish or gummy worms. Sometimes both. Im a child ksjsjkwkw

4. What is your morning routine?

Lay in the fetal position for around 10 minutes scrolling through my phone before getting up making my bed, cleaning up after my dogs, eating, and then finally getting ready for the day.

5. What mythical/cryptid creature would you be?

A pokemon. Jkjk jsjwjs umm idk. Id probably be dumb enough to get turned into a werewolf, or be born a witch.

6. How do you interact with someone that you don’t like?

Ill be polite, but not the the entent of trying to start or carry a conversation. I'll probably be very quiet and the most ill do is smile politely like :]

7. How do you define a toxic person?

I would define a toxic person as selfish thinking the world revolves around them and not caring about the emotions or feelings of others caused by their actions therefore stunting the personal growth of people around them and also not growing themselves.

8. Have you ever been to a concert or fanmeet type of event? If not, would you want to?

I've been to two concerts no fanmeets or events. I attended a Monsta x concert and went to see nct 127 when they came for the houston rodeo. I would absolutley want to go to a fanmeet, but id probably cry so....someone needs to come with me to make sure i dont have a mental breakdown when i meet kihyun (or anyone else)

9. Do you believe in astrology? Why or why not?

Um i dont really know enough about it to really choose whether i believe in it or not. Like the extent i know of it is that there is different moon, sun, star, ascending, signs with the planets also having sign as well as that there is different houses?? My friend who believes in it gave me a reading and while i did agree with a lot of what she said, i also disagreed with some of it. I think theres a limit, but i would like to know more about it. Its interesting to me.

10. If you had only one sense (hearing, touch, sight, etc.), which would you want?

Its a hard decision between sight and hearing. I am a emotional person and have emotionao attachment to each of my senses such as , never being able to taste the soup my mom makes me when in sick, not being able to feel the face of my lover (not that i have one). I think id have to go with hearing, because i honestly dont think id be here without music.

11. Who is your favorite celebrity or idol?

This is hard when i stan more than 15 groups, but i dont think i really have a favourite. Each idol has a differentiation in qualities and personality which i look up to. If i had to choose one it would be Leeteuk, the leader of Super Junior or Lay from exo. I do have my reasons for it, if you want to know just ask.

12. If you could talk to your favorite celebrity(s) for a limited time, what would you tell them?

Bold of you to assume i wouldn't be sobbing on the floor. On the serious note, i would thank them for being such a precious and lovely memory of what will become my past, but also being a bright light of hope and happiness in what will be my future. Whatever they do, ill stand behind them and support them, and to please take care of themselves.

13. I’m taking you out on a date and it’s your choice. Where are we going and what are we going to do?

Omg this is moving so fast jslakkd. I would like to go to a cute cafe and then a walk around the park most preferably. Id save all the other dates like amusement parks and movies for deeper into the relationship.

14. Do you like sweet or savory foods?

Sweet :) lol

15. Do you have any band merchandise or merchandise from any of your favorite artists? If so, what?

Im not home so i cant count them, so im going wholly off my memory.

4 bts albums 1 bt21 hoodie 3 pop up figures

2 exo albums 1 hoodie 1 shirt many stickers

1 exo-sc album

1 lay album

1 got7 album

3 Monsta x albums 2 shirts 1 face mask many stickers some random things, concert banner

1 seventeen album

1 a.c.e album

1 stray kids albums 1 sticker

2 nct 127 albums

1 ateez album 1 shirt

1 sf9 album

1 SuperM album

shinee sticker

ikon concert banner

Thats basically all :))

@bearboyunho @doyoungbunnyagenda @cutebutapsychoo @waterfallsandrosebuds @brighttragedy if she wants to do it @saturnmoon-night @jooheonyonehunnit

[dakbees]

2pm, block b, ikon? 👀 a weird combo but I was going through my playlist to find groups you might not stan and I came up with them (also idk block b very well besides their music so you could say “this dudes name is …” with authority and I’d believe you, I only know two names)

Oh I’m a dumbass your post from earlier was literally block b ok instead of them do uhhhh cravity

omg milena when did u send this im sorry i didnt see it

yes i Stan block b (my first group 🥺) so ill do cravity like u suggested ksbdksbak

cravity

i genuinelly only know allen and theres a guy whose name is like woojin or wonjun or smthn? also there was the guy i said was cute but i dont remember his name even tho u told me im so sorry jsgdksm

2pm

1. taecyeon! i think everyone knows him

2. nickhyun

3. i know jokwon is a member of 2am but i think that counts somehow

4. there are 6 members total and i should be able to say this with more confidence since i JUST watched 해야해 but... i am stewpid..

ikon

1. bobby! hes a sweetheart :)

2. b.i rip lol

3. jinhwan. hes the tiny one, right?

4. j? or jay? or is he the same person as jinhwan...

5. DK i can say his name confidently but only his stage name

6. june!! i know him bc i like his voice a lot omg

7. wait i know theres only 7 members but i KNOW song is one of them and chanwoo is another member wait i messed up somewhere

[zhanghaos-hairclips]

I took screenshots of this and I always wanted to do it but,, my memory is bad ahsjdbjd tagged by my tumblr mum @kesmonsterkpop 💛

In no particular order bc I love them all:

Siwoo/Taemin (I lied, he's #1)

Sunwoo

Renjun

DK (iKon)

Wonwoo

New

Xiaojun

Seonghwa

Minhyuk (Map6)

Aisha

Between 1 and 4 who would you rather kiss?

Damn, eat my kneecaps why don't you. I mean as soft and sweet and beautiful as Donghyuk is, you know who my ult is.

Between 2 and 7 who would be your best friend?

Hhhhhh but like, can we be more later on? 👀👀 if we can then it's my boy Xiao 🙊

Between 5 and 10 who has a better voice?

They're both rappers but have beautiful voices.. how do I pick? 😰😰 if I really have to then maybe Aisha.

Between 1 and 8 who is the funniest?

You know I'm kinda biased here, but both make me laugh a lot.. although Hwa mostly makes me either soft or hard tbf 👀👀 so Taems??

Between 6 and 9 who would you date?

Am I allowed to say both? 😍😍 I probably know New better because map6 dont have a lot of content 😭 so probably him based on that

Between 4 and 8 who is the best dancer?

I mean.. sorry Hwa but Donghyuk is a dance machine so it has to be him 😂

Between 3 and 5 who would you marry?

Why are you doing this to me? Hmm let's compare them. Renjun is can cook, I think he said he can sew or something?? We stan. Wonwoo? Big softie, less likely to fight you abdjsbjs sorry Renjun but it's true. Idk I love them both but maybe Wonwoo (we all know if it was 1, 6, 7 or 8 I would choose them in a heartbeat)

Between 1 and 7 who would you nurse when sick?

Both? Tbh I would nurse them all because although I'm babie I want to look after people so I'm just.. gonna refuse to answer this either way 👀

Between 6 and 8 who would you vacation with?

Again, can I say both? Like I mentioned, New can cook so he'd be the nominated chef. Hwa would be okay as long as we don't share a room because clean mama Hwa + messy Ren is not an ideal mix. Okay maybe New then 😂

Tagging: @intoyoulikeatrain @silverstonemanor @yeolsleftmannipple @pinkfluffyunicornsforpresident @chanberrys if you want to do it! I don't know who's already been tagged so sbxjndm

[kvngjoong]

about;

hi i’m liv, seo changbin's astrological twin.* 

my therapist said writing will help me out. she also said stan day6.

i run at the efficiency of a medical secretary for a neurologist. (i leave a lot of work until the last minute and somehow get 10k written in a day)

the biggest L i’ve taken on this app are being tagged in a post with another writer, them being told they were an amazing writer and not me. there was another thing i remembered when i was in the shower but i can’t remember it now. i think it was me sending messages to people and getting one word answers in response, but who knows

info:

pls call me liv dob 11081999 leo sun, leo moon, libra rising (im dramatic)** she/her, pansexual from the uk currently studying law at university*** enfp used to be heonseoks/xiuminsm

sns:

twitter ao3 - 2nd pseud pinterest  mywriteclub

stans:

day6; the rose; n.flying stray kids; ateez; ab6ix ace; cix; ikon; svt; sf9 mamamoo; dreamcatcher clc; twice; loona; rv exo

ults: 

sungjin and youngk bang chan  mingi junhee  junhoe solar  sua and siyeon exo

♡ song recs ♡

in conclusion, exo changed the industry but some people aren’t ready for that conversation.

* i dont know his birthchart alright, but i’m guessing it’s gotta be close to mine. if anyone wants to help me out, ask him what time he was born so we can determine what it looks like

** here is ur damn proof, 

*** i’m in my last year. message me for help, i have so many notes and shit to share. pls love me.

[minecraftjunho]

long kpop post lmao sorry to everyone i just have a lot to say (especially abt idol producer even tho thats c pop)

IT WAS IKON’S CHANWOO BIRTHDAY i dont stan ikon but chanwoo looks like the future love of my life whenever he breathes u kno ?? v handsome boy

ASTRO MOONBIN BIRTHDAY mans passion is slut dropping and u kno what ??? thats valid, weird to think hes the same age as jungwoo tho idk y

IM CHANGKYUN FROM MONSTA X BIRTHDAY oof my favorite furry’s birthday no but deadass he and jooheon and my biases bc i cant pick anyways yeah stan rap legend furry im changkyun

BITCH WHAT THE FUCK JENNIE AND KAI BROKE UP they only lasted like ???? 25 days open to the public which is kind of really sad but if im being real with u it might be that they’re still dating but dont want the public to know ? people are saying it was for publicity but ??? exo and blackpink dont need publicity they could Breathe and it would go viral. anyways i hope theyre both doing okay and that they can be happy whether it be together or apart in the future :^(

OH MY GOD IDOL PRODUCER SEASON 2 EPISODE 1 i finally watched it and i have a lot to say.  i dont have a favorite boy yet but i do really like all of them so far and i just wanted to go off abt yixing for a bit (not in a bad way i love him !!) he was getting a lot of hate and criticism for being really hard on the trainees and after watching the episode, i can see it.  but the thing about idol shows like this is kind of complicated because it really gets into: what makes an idol?  this was kind of discussed for a hot second when main producer BoA during pd101 s2 asked sewoon if he would prefer to be an idol or a singer.  at the time he said his ultimate goal was to be the ceo/main producer for an entertainment company and he thought that being an idol would help him in that way but after he lost produce 101 (he ended up #12 :^( ) he ended up being a singer and he did kind of debut in a project group as an idol but his main thing is being a singer.  i think the reason yixing went off, especially on the rappers, is that he doesnt see them as idols really.  yixing trained for a very long time and under sm, his training was probably really intense and harsh.  when he talked about idols who debut after a year, two years, 6 months, or 2 months through programs like idol producer, he probably felt that these trainees that went on idol producer, were using it as an easy way out of training almost.  so many trainees went on there with like less than a month-3 months of training and they have an opportunity to debut.  he was disappointed at the performances because so many trainees said that their position was rap, but that was all they could do and a lot of them had a lot of room for improvement.  an idol is different from an artist in that, a rapper only raps and a singer only sings, an idol has to be good at singing, rapping, and dancing.  he probably just thought that they weren’t making good use of the opportunity that was presented to them. anyways end of rant i really liked the first episode and i thought it was interesting abt how they went more into what it means to be an idol cause im a fucking nerd lmao

BAP’S 7TH ANNIVERSARY im very happy that theyve made it this far and i know members have already left and more probably will leave once their contract ends but its honestly what’s best for them, ts entertainment treated them terribly for so long and they tried to sue once and i hope theyll try to debut together like beast/highlight did but i just want the best for them in their future

starship announced their audtion... we going seeing sewoon (no were not)

ateez say my name dance practice !!! it was this move i was talking about:

i actually love it so much they just kind of walk stiffly it looks so fun

Kang Daniel Wore A Crop Top

thank you kang daniel

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for that prev anon, I dont think so? NCT was compared to exo, IKON was compared to big bang and superm and got7 were being compared to bts. It's just a natural thing kpop stans go through like how ppl were like omg 3d gen sucks when 2d gen ended and now they're like 3d gen was the best but these 4th gen groups are so bad. I remember ppl token stanned exo because everyone was comparing and shitting on nct when they first debuted because of that.

You dont see bands like stayc being compared to blackpink. It's always the girl crush ones that play in with edm because that is marketed as a blackpink sound.

i mean all u said is true but the hate is definitely higher for female artists within kpop and they get pinned against one another way more frequently (and just so u dont think i made my reasoning up - token stanning for minorities is something ive studied in a uni course!)

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Kingdom: Legendary war - 100 second performances

TBH I dont wanna write full essays on these little intro performances even though I have a lot of thoughts, so they're all gonna be on this one post.

ATEEZ: I loved the introduction!! Dude the acting?? Seonghwa's full staggering?? Dope as fuck. The strings instrumental as well as the rough waves sound were a great introduction to the theme. A good performance overall, I think it genuinely highlighted and set up the kind of group ATEEZ is. I struggled a bit with the song choice because Wave (original) is so upbeat and free spirited while the kingdom version felt very aggressive. But I figured maybe they chose it because it's (1) their first music show win (important mentally and emotionally) and (2) it fits the pirate theme they're going to carry on in the show. Speaking of theme, I really liked that ATEEZ stuck to their guns and kept to the pirate theme. It's clearly a sort of icon for them, in Pirate King and Wave, and also in Wonderland (large pirate ship at the end) and THANXX (ships and sharks in the air, skull on the float). I do worry this will somehow limit their performances from now on but a continuous theme can be very powerful as well.

BTOB: Y'all I did not know anything about BTOB tbh. I've heard their songs here and there but I didn't know them at all and listening to this version of Beautiful Pain, I am stunned. Like I've always respected kpop idols as the ones who can do it all, especially in comparison to American celebrities who tend to be very one tracked in many ways, but BTOB really brings up a new level of skill in their singing. Eunkwang in particular really impressed me! He has really strong, stable vocals and is able to achieve those impactful long notes that I know for a fact is difficult to anyone who doesn't train with singing in mind in particular. He kind of reminds me of Hui from Pentagon and RTK? Technically it should be that Hui reminds me of him but like I got to know Hui first so yknow. I think the drawback for BTOB will be how they incorporate themes and action in their performances, as ballad songs tend to be very mellow in comparison to the kind of aggressive EDM/hip hop the other groups are known for.

SF9: I stan now. Just like, fact. I already really liked Summer Breeze and Good Guy from SF9 but I feel like their time on Kingdom has really suckered me into learning about them. But just from this introduction performance, I think it's really interesting what kind of strengths they were playing into. I know SF9 is pretty well known for their physique and appearances, as well as their individual acting ability. Like the mentioned during the episode, they do a lot of individual activities which I think would make a show like Kingdom really difficult for them because they don't have a lot of time to practice together as the other groups do. Still, I believe they can put on excellent performances if they play to their strengths and manage to show good team synergy. The intro performance is interesting because it was really intense, which was sort of off-set in some ways by their costuming and set design. I actually would have loved if they had taken more of a boss stance, like they're CEOs of the company or something with the matching lighting and LED screen displays. I feel like that would have really enhanced their suits and gelled hair. Still though!! Great job!! And please, huge shoutout to Taeyang who struggled with the body pack, I'm really impressed by his laser focus during the performance. I know it must be disappointing but he did well.

Stray Kids: My boys!! My babies!! I love how they carried the theme from the performance film that Minho stared in. Wolves is a wonderful concept for Kingdom for a variety of reasons. Wolves are a common standard in medieval representations (GOT as an example) so that's really symbolic of them participating in Kingdom. Additionally, I really like how it gives that kind of wild energy to SKZ, similar to how in Back Door they gave off really party-esque vibes. I also think of the aggression of wolves in defending their territory which is a cool intimidation tactic kinda? It's likely unintentional but it's still very cool. Choosing MIROH was kind of obvious, given it's importance as their very first win (like ATEEZ) and also the theme of the song being about freedom and being the king of the concrete jungle. The arrangement was so cool, seriously seriously Chan how do you do it?? Chan and Hui become friends please. I liked how they, like TBZ, used more of the stage than some of the other groups. Like Minho on the bleacher seats. Props wise, Changbin's firework was awesome although I don't necessarily know what kind of role it plays in the theme of the performance? But yeah, it was incredible and they totally deserved first place for that.

TBZ: Yooooo what was that start?? That posing?? Y'all please, my heart isn't strong enough for this. Eric's mf core strength to be able to sit up from that position-- hhhhh. I'm genuinely curious as to what theme they were thinking about when they made this because there's such a unique genre to the performance. It's daring, challenging, elegant and impactful. The whispering opening lines from Eric 100% made goosebumps creep up my arm. I also think it's interesting that they had a sort of rising from the ashes moment when all the members collapse and then come back up. This performance was an incredible showing of the full scope of TBZ's skills, as a group with incredible formations and dancing ability. I mean the hands in the camera? Really shows how their time on RTK has helped familiarize them to the stage available on Kingdom. That ballet bit with the classical piano?? (COOL LEDS AND TRANSITIONS TOO YO) Bro, how many other groups could do that so smoothly. It reminds me of the differences they had in RTK, like how Quasi una fantasia was a very modern dance-esque piece. I'm really hoping they continue to show their variety and creativity on Kingdom as they did in RTK and in this performance. Side note: GOT themed?? I'm gonna have to monitor that carefully because I'm not a GOT nut but my roommate is and I feel like if that's the theme then there should be some level of commitment to the concept, on a theatrical execution sense.

iKON: I've mentioned this before but this is possibly my favorite performance out of all of these for this intro round. I didn't really appreciate it at first but I keep going back to it because the arrangement is so interesting! The combination of their hip-hop original beat and the the aggression of the instrumentals (like the drumming beat and the flute) is so fun to listen to. I also like that they start off really strong and then really show off how fun they can be, like how Donghyuck (DK) and Jinhwan (Jay)'s duoing was really powerful and then post transition (which was also really clean!), Bobby had the time of his life just popping off the way he does. Bobby seems so carefree and that's amazing, I think that's so fun. I really like that iKON used their arms at the beginning too. Based on the other performance clips I've seen for rounds 1 and 2, that kind of movement seems to be their thing and that's awesome!! I gotta mention, Jinhwan is an incredible dancer. Even though iKON doesn't seem to have the same synchronization that TBZ, SKZ and ATEEZ have, it kind of really works in their favor because of the hip hop vibes they devote themselves too. Hip hop is all about individual expression so it's really fun to see their little quirks! That said, I do hope they're able to polish up a little bit so that it doesn't seem too out of sync, like when Donghyuck was a beat off in bit where they raise their arms together.

All in all, the intro performances really did stick to the charms each team has! That's really incredible and I really like that. Onto round 1!

lol i'm really out here always saying i dont wanna write full essays and then blowing up. anyways, if you haven't gotten the chance to check out the performances, I highly recommend watching them below!

ATEEZ - BTOB - SF9 - SKZ - TBZ - iKON