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"Lex freaking Luthor... Inter-planetary villain and cake thief? That Lex Luthor?"
Future State (2021): Superman. "Superman Vs Imperious Lex"
That's canon. 😄
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What if: Lexor
One day, Superman and his allies were battling Lex and co.
A blast happened, and they were all teleported to another planet. It was under a red Sun and was quite different from that of Earth.
The heroes became separated.
Overtime, Lex and his ilk became conquerors over the less technologically advanced people. Lex was regarded as a hero by many in the cities he ruled over.
Lex, after expanding his territory a great deal and solidifying his power, began focusing on finding the heroes, particularly Superman. He sent minions looking for him throughout his territory, in the cities and tribes. He even made deals with rival warlords for them to look for Kal-El in their own territories.
They looked everywhere for the brave warrior.
Unbeknownst to any, a small tribe eked a living within the inhospitable deserts. They often picked up refugees who had fled from the fighting. Among them was a long-haired, pale, thin, & sickly man who was called the Storyteller.
As his title suggests, he told stories that brought such wonder to his audience. He would be frequently surrounded by children pestering him for great tales. Even the adults would listen. Some, such as the more cynical, consider him a weak cripple barely worth having in the tribe.
The wiser ones noticed how his stories contained great wisdom. Many would go to him for advice. And when he spoke, many listened.
The Storyteller was a kind man who happily looked after the children and offered assistance wherever he could help. Unfortunately, he had a mysterious illness that caused him to be weak and frequently was bed-ridden.
One day, soldiers came, looking for any able-bodied men that fit the description given to them by their superiors.
What happens next?
I was inspired by tribal stories + the Clex fic “Apokalips Now” and based this idea off my “What if: Under the Yellow Sun” post + Lexor from the comics + Conan + depictions of desert planets in the media
I envision that Clark, due to his Kryptonian education, would be rather savvy when it came to survival on almost any type of planet.
His tactile field (something every Kryptonian has) would also come in handy as far as sensing danger. (Think anime sensing killing intent or incoming danger).
His drawback: yellow Sun withdrawal that severely impacts his own health.
No one would suspect it, though, as his cousin Kara would continue to be in peak physical condition.
The reason?
She was born in Kandor (when it was still under Brainiac control) and sent to Earth after her early development. Her body didn’t develop a dependence for yellow sunlight like Kal’s did.
So imagine a weak yet wily Clark, on a journey to reunite with his friends, battling his condition while avoiding detection or outright fleeing from his most deadly enemies, in a hostile environment, with few or no allies to rely on?
Quite frankly I find it thrilling.
Meanwhile, in the country of Lexor, within its shining capital, New Metropolis, Emperor Lex Luthor is excitedly waiting for when he’ll throw the now mortal Superman into his Grand Coliseum and defeat him in single combat.
How the hell is he supposed to show his superiority over the alien with a weak, pathetic version of him?!
And, despite his obvious upper hand, the alien continues to remain defiant, speaking stories that mock him.
The alien defies him, either outright or behind the scenes, constantly undermining his authority!
Threats and violence are only met with inhuman blue eyes shining with unyielding determination!
#story ideas#my work#superman#please write this#please writers#lex luthor#clark kent#kryptonian#Lexor#clex#story prompt#superman comics#justice league#injustice league#secret society#kara zor el#supergirl#enemies to lovers#secret identity#rogue gallery#metropolis
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another idea i have is that the Lexor gets destroyed a bit later, so that Adora and the people of Lexor can teach Lex Jr about Lex Luthor being a hero of the planet. the Lexor destruction happens as usual except this time, Lex Jr survives (though Lex doesn't know this). Lex Luthor Jr would don a suit similar to Lex's defender suit and Lex II's gold and white suit with the LL symbol. I think Lex Jr having an inferiority complex AND learning that his dad was not all good would make a very interesting character also since lexor blew up there is lexorite
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Episode 78 -- Geeking on the First Team-Up Brainiac and Lex Luthor
It’s back to the Silver Age for the first team-up of Superman’s two worst enemies! Feedback for this show can be sent to: [email protected] You can subscribe to Charlie’s Geekcast through Apple Podcasts, the RSS Feed, Google Podcasts, Amazon Podcasts, TuneIn Radio, or IHeartRadio. You can also visit the show’s Facebook group page. For complete show notes, including more images and/or…
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Honestly, Lex could just stay in Lexor and be the hero. Sadly, two things prevent it.
One, his own hatred of Superman. Gotta kill him first.
Two, the inflexible moral code of the time would never allow him to go free like that. Superman wouldn’t be allowed to make a “stay on this planet doing good and I won’t drag you back to Earth to do jail for Earth crimes�� deal.
You know Lex, if you like being a hero so bad. Being loved and admired. The feeling that comes from doing good works and being recognized as a role model ...you can just CHOOSE to do that. Anywhere. Everywhere. At any time. Clark would really prefer if you did. Action Comics 318
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Awww, that’s so cute <33 Bruce teaching him martial arts.
Action Comics #318
#clark kent#i wonder if bruce taught him judo specifically for when clark would have to go back to lexor again#and honestly this story#if it had been bruce in clark's place this story would've been over in 2 panels#because he would've had the common sense to DISGUISE HIMSELF WHEN LANDING ON A PLANET THAT CONSIDERS HIM A CRIMINAL#like none of this would've even happened had it been bruce#but it was funny to watch clark be kinda dumb have to rely on straight up just luck to not end up dead#i really like the idea of clark kinda sucking without his powers#i think it's a good flaw to give him#i like to think villains rather get busted by superman than batman#because superman will have to handle them so fucking gently#like he'll hold them like newborn kittens because if he gets even just a little rought he'll accidentaly kill them#and batman will just beat the shit out of them#like before lex has ever fought batman#he'd laught at joker like 'lmao you got beat by just some human? just some guy? no superpowers?'#and then he gets punched by batman one time#and never wants to step foot into gotham ever again#like 'no thanks i'd rather keep trying to kill this alien with near god like powers than go anywhere near that one emo furry'
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"thank you phil that's so sweet" <3333
(posted by @/lexoriced on twitter)
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Earth-One Lex Luthor Traits
Sick and tired of people spreading nonsense about one of my favourite characters and denigrating the pre-crisis version of him, so I'm starting an education campaign about his character traits, particularly the ones going back to the silver age!
Questionable heroics
Source: Adventure Comics #271, Superman #164
Source: Superman #416
Silver age Lex did actually try to be a hero in Smallville, but it went wrong and he gave up. It wasn't about losing his hair (though later stories did make that conflation). But Lex occasionally doing heroic things was a theme throughout this era.
Lying and manipulation
Source: Adventure Comics #271
Source: Action Comics #544
Lex does this when he’s trying to control and manoeuvre things and get his way.
Hero-worship
Source: Adventure Comics #271
Source: Superman #416
Lashing out
Source: Superman #161, Superman #292
Source: Superman #416
While he’s known for his wider-scale cruelties, Lex also has this tendency to fall back on petty cruelty when he feels off-balance. This ranges from name-calling to visceral threats.
Jealousy and projection
Source: Adventure Comics #271
Source: Superman #386
It's never clear how aware Lex is that he's doing this, but in the post-Lexor storyline it did explicitly cross over into genuine delusion.
Emotional insecurity/abandonment issues
Source: Superman #292
Source: Action Comics #512
Lex has this tendency to undervalue or disbelieve how much he means to somebody. One issue heavily implied that this sense of abandonment was the root of why he wouldn’t believe Superboy’s entreaties to him.
Protectiveness
Source: Superman’s Girl Friend, Lois Lane #23, Action Comics #295
Source: Adventure Comics #387
Lex would be protective of specific people to the point of self-sacrifice, in particular Lena and her son Val.
Inadvertently hurting/endangering the people he wants to protect
Source: Adventure Comics #388
Source: Superman Family #214
Lex’s protectiveness was interesting because he would continue to do so even when they hated him or he made them hate him.
Spying on people
Source: Action Comics #317
Rushing into marriages
Source: Action Comics #318
Doting on children
Source: Action Comics #295, Action Comics #544
Callousness towards children
Source: Action Comics #407
The thing is not that Lex categorically protects or refuses to hurt children. He has no compunctions about threatening and traumatising them the same as he would an adult.
Preoccupation with his legacy
Source: Superman #286
Lex had a sense of pride over his villainous legacy.
Fighting with (and usually losing to) other villains
Source: Superman #286
His attempts to control, corral or dominate other villains would inevitably fail. They would often target or double-cross him as well.
Ennui
Source: The Joker #7
Source: Heroes Against Hunger
This was more subtle, but Lex being ambiguously depressed is an idea we have seen since.
Obsession as his downfall
Source: DC Special Series #5
Source: Action Comics #544
#not an exhaustive list#I deliberately left out things that I thought were self-evident or too broad#I will be making individual posts for some of these with more examples as well
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It's admittedly sorta rare in canon but the concept of Clark feeling guilty over Lex is like catnip to me it's SO potent. I really owe Maggin and Waid my life for exploring it because basically no other writers have as thoroughly.
The thing is I feel like a lot of writers have been very light-handed about it. Morrison has Clark reaching out to Lex and then giving up on him in All-Star, which I find a little weird, because it contradicts the arc outlined in Superman 2000 and JLA. And there's a moment in Action Comics where Clark felt a bit guilty about what happened in the Black Ring for a moment before he was talked out of it. Smallville had a similar moment, with Martha instead of Lois.
Meanwhile bronze age Clark had this deranged breakdown over the guilt of letting Lex die with Lexor, and then proceeded to pretend he was being totally rational. And Williamson's run has Clark acting guilty about the Lex Getting Stabbed incident in a way which feels a lot less subtle than normal. And then actually apologising even though Lex is being an asshole!
As the audience, we understand that Clark isn't responsible for how Lex turned out, but part of him takes on the guilt anyway. I love this trait and aspect of their relationship, sorry!
#it's like even without the clex of it all this should be a no-brainer in continuities where they were friends#he's superman he feels responsible for everything
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June 1961. The preeminence of Lex Luthor's 1986 reinvention as a billionaire industrialist has created a lot of misconceptions about his pre-Crisis counterpart, a "renegade scientist" who spent as much time in prison as out of it. This Edmond Hamilton story from ACTION COMICS #277 presents a good summation of how Luthor was positioned narratively in the pre-Crisis period (1958–1986). Luthor, who we see is not popular even among his fellow inmates, is asked to use his scientific genius to prevent a catastrophic incident:
After saving the bomber, Luthor uses his anti-gravity ray to immobilize his guards, then carjacks Lois Lane to make his getaway. We then get our first glimpse of "Luthor's Lair," the villain's secret headquarters in Metropolis:
After touring his lair and getting a good night's sleep, during which he has a satisfying dream of defeating and humiliating Superman and his friends, Luthor devises a plan to rob Fort Knox. This succeeds marvelously: He uses a new shrinking ray inspired by his dream to shrink the guards, a "fourth-dimensional arm" to remove the bullion from the vaults, and "gimmicked trucks [that] can turn into planes" to carry the loot. When the commander of Fort Knox calls for Superman's help, Luthor is able to draw Superman away with a machine that creates what appear to be globes of Kryptonite (although they're actually "harmless fakes"). Afterward, Luthor is triumphant — but not for long:
A common complaint about the pre-Crisis Luthor (and other villains of his ilk) is that his plans make no sense because the super-scientific equipment he creates undoubtedly costs more than he could ever hope to recoup through the robberies he commits. (Stealing all the gold in Fort Knox might be an exception, but it's hard to see his being able to convert more than a fraction of the gold to liquid cash.) That's true so far as it goes, and it's a legitimate complaint about some of Luthor's '50s appearances, but this story, like many later Silver Age and Bronze Age Luthor stories, makes plain that money is really not what Luthor is after. He's driven mostly by ego, with his hatred of Superman functioning as a useful object for that drive. Interestingly, in Luthor's dream, when he has the Man of Steel at his mercy, Luthor can't make up his mind about what to do with his foe:
The Silver Age and Bronze Age stories generally present Luthor as a kind of quasi-hero. He exists in the same kind of demimonde of secret headquarters and fantastic gadgets as heroes like Batman, and like them, he applies his extraordinary skills not to conventional pursuits of wealth, power, or social progress, but to his own somewhat quixotic personal quests. It's true that his elaborate schemes seldom seem likely to make him any money, but that's equally true of Batman or the Silver Age Green Arrow, to say nothing of Superman — Superman could certainly engineer a more lavish lifestyle for Clark Kent than his Daily Planet salary provides, but he's never shown any interest in doing so, and people rarely question that.
Of course, Superman also performs various acts of heroism and altruism (not all of which involve fighting crime), but Silver Age stories repeatedly emphasize that Luthor can and occasionally does do that as well, and even when he has an ulterior motive, Luthor's efforts are usually surprisingly sincere. This is most evident in the stories set on Lexor, a distant world whose inhabitants think Luthor is a great hero, but even in this story, notice that Luthor does in fact save the bomber from crashing before using his device to escape. To the extent that the stories present Luthor as a tragic figure (which they do surprisingly often), the tragedy, as the unnamed government official remarks in this story, is that he only rarely applies his talents "to the good of mankind." On the other hand, that's also true of Batman and the rest of Superman's Justice League colleagues, who could certainly use their abilities to benefit society beyond simply fighting crime and upholding the status quo, but choose not to.
The pre-Crisis Luthor, then, is not simply a villain, but an inverted hero: His logic and his motivations are very similar to those of his superheroic counterparts, except that the (equally arbitrary) lines around what he is and isn't willing to do are drawn somewhat differently.
#comics#action comics#edmond hamilton#curt swan#george klein#silver age superman#pre crisis#lex luthor#luthor's lair#this story makes clear that luthor does NEED money#to maintain his operations buy equipment and pay his men#but he's not motivated by greed#also the pre-crisis luthor is perfectly capable#of creating super-weapons from relatively mundane materials#only occasionally requiring some kind of exotic resources
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"It's like Plato's Cave, X-99... Earth guy. A philosopher. Actually, he was a professional wrestler. But when his philosophy teacher died, he took all his teachings and published them under his own name. Huge hit. Brilliant man. Plato said that we live in a cave, where all we're shown is illusions. Shadows that are but vague imitations of reality. And that as we challenge our assumptions and grow, we come out of the cave, seeing the world for the first time as it really is. But Plato had it backward. We don't emerge from a cave into the truth of the world. We start in reality. And then, with each passing day, we move a little deeper into the dark warmth of the cave. Until we grow so confortable with the shadows on the wall that we forget there ever was an outside world."
Future State (2021): Superman. "Superman Vs Imperious Lex. Part #3."
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#my work#superman#story ideas#clark kent#please writers#please write this#superman comics#lex luthor#kryptonian#Ardora#clex#angela blake#desiree atkins#helen bryce#Elizabeth#gertrude vanderworth#lexcorp#lexor#metropolis
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I made a design for Lex Luthor Jr. as a superhero
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Valentine's Superhero Wedding Review Poll III
Hello all you happy people. For the past two years to celebrate the lovelist day of the year with my love of men, women and that beautifulu techiclor rainbow inbetween in costume who punch what good by letting my fine patrons pick out 3 superhero weddings, myself pick one, and you fine folks pick one of these for me to review. What says love more than some asshole in a costume crashing your wedding no?
So for your voting pleasure, here are this years nominees and the poll to pick your faviorite is below. Voting will close in a week. If it's a tie it's sudden death baby and if that ties.. well i'll just hav eto do both won't I. So vote whenever, vote soon, and vote with your heart, here are your nominees!
Lex Luthor and Adora of Planet Lexor (Action Comics 318-319)
Lex's pre crisis marriage has him doing the usual lex luthor things: escape prison, go to a planet he once fooled into thinking he's a great hero and Superman a villian.. then invite superman after the wedding to fake his own death and blame Supes for it.
Emma Frost and Tony Stark (Invincible Iron Man #10) Ones a life long playboy whose lasting relationships end in tears, betryal or the next set of writers wanting him to screw around again. The other's a life long career woman whose fine to flirt but mostly spends her time saving humanity and whose longest relationship was with a man she stole from his wife via very sketchy therapy practices. Naturally marriage is less out of love and more as a smokescreen to screw over a massive anti mutant biggot who used tony's tech to create a waking nightmare for mutant kind, but damn if it won't be fun anyway.
Luke Cage and Jessica Jones (New Avengers Annual #1) A relationship began in casual hookups and deep seated trauma, became one of marvel's most lasting and wholesome marriage and Hero for Hire Luke Cage and PI for hire Jessica Jones became the couple with the least time for your nonsense but the cutest baby. Naturally for their courtship their wedding involves a proposal luke announces to hold her to saying yes, a fight with an old foe turned into a scary monster/ super creep, and takes place just before the super hero community cracked in half.
Wally West and Linda Park (The Flash 132 and 159)
He was a fuck boy, she was a girl who didn't take his shit. Could they make it any more obvious. As wally west grew from irresponsible young ass to true hero worthy of the mantle flash he found his rock in reporter Linda Park, someone on his level willing to both call him out when he stupid, and support him when he's beating himself up too hard. Naturally given their marriage would be in trouble for the 2010's thanks to Dan DiDio's personal mission to make Wally West Fans suffer, their wedding ends in a magician making Linda disappear from everyone's memories, with the two finallyg etting married after antics with angsty future selves, Linda being Impulse's imaginary friend, and a picnic wedding to give us a happy end to Mark Waid's long and storied run and a happy start to one of the best marriages in comics
#superman#lex luthor#iron man#emma frost#wally west#linda park#luke cage#jessica jones#weddings#valentine's day#comics#marvel#dc
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The Visionaries Tales - Lexor…a foe of good, he prides himself on his talent to create havoc-wreaking terror wherever he goes! Mystical Personality: the Armadillo symbolizes Lexor's indomitable fortitude to withstand attack. Magical Totem: Lexor summons his power of invulnerability to keep him unscarred during hand-to-hand combat with the Spectral Knights! “The arrows turn, the swords rebel, may nothing pierce this mortal shell!”
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