#krogan x viggo

[amyrafiercebladeartz]

Entry 117 

37th Mid Summer

Today Krogan and I had a day off, one that while Johann seemed to oppose it, he and I both managed to sway his mind on the matter. It's the first break I've had since my coming here, and while there could've been better days to have this moment of rest, I am glad, in some ways, that it was today. 

Mostly because today gave me a chance to think. 

As we both left Johann's workspace, Krogan asked me about how the Dragon Eye was working, likely trying to pry out exactly what had happened a few days prior when it crunched in his hands and I… well, took it to examine the damage. I told him my findings; That it was old boar grease that had severely hardened inside the mechanism during its stay in the volcano. Where the boar grease came from, I have my suspicions, but in any matter I found myself beginning to rant. Justifiably so. 

He didn't say much of anything, looking back. He watched me as I explained the cause, how it explained how the Dragon Eye upon recovery had been… fussy, how I'd taken it apart to clean it and found far more of the hardened residue than should even be possible and,  eventually, he listened through my opinion on its condition and how it had been unjustly treated by Hiccup and his meddling-

I digress. 

At the time, I had simply talked, and he'd simply paced alongside of me, sometimes he'd say something and I'd continue on, but now that I think of it, this… behavior… there have been other times that I've talked and he's listened, for whatever reason it was. I honestly don't think he knows what I'm talking about most of the time, but in any case, he always listens with this amused smirk. Sometimes he'll surprise me with a comment of his own, which still catches me off guard when he listens that well to my ramblings. 

It's… nice, actually… that he listens…

And that set me thinking…

Why? 

Why does he listen? 

If it were simple amusement, he wouldn't have to say a word, much less take from the conversation and add to it. Could he be listening just to learn? Is he trying to subtly pry information about myself for later? Lately he doesn't seem malicious, which is a turn I could've never expected. We were at eachother's throats not two months ago, yet now he listens? Is there any reason to this change that perhaps I've not considered?

I don't exactly know. In some ways, I'm almost terrified to consider other options. A man like him… I don't dare say the word 'friend'... not yet, though a part of me wishes it so, that my distrust just may be my old habits dragging me down. 

I've thought about this, and the more I do, the more I realise…

It might be something more...

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A short story from Viggo's pov, light Krogan/Viggo, very beginning lol

@reallyprofoundkryptonite merr early chrimas ^^

[reallyprofoundkryptonite]

Them

[amyrafierceblade]

Just Look My Way hits hard, now I'm thinking of sad, heart wrenching Kroggo

[duoatomica]

I saw no one doing it and I felt too overwhelmed and had to

@reallyprofoundkryptonite @ziggityzigg @cujokroggo yall

[lilliths-httyd-blog]

Typing in the names of RttE characters and seeing the interesting/funny tags that come up

[countlessofvoids]

Ok here are my headcanons on what dragons the HTTYD/ROB/RTTE human antagonists would be (because it's the only list of characters I can come up with as dragons);

Alvin - Rumblehorn

Dagur - Speedstinger

Viggo - Skrill (basic answer ik)

Ryker - logisticaly he would be a skrill since he and Viggo are brothers, however I just can't see him as one. Cavern Crasher it is.

Krogan - Slitherwing

Johann - Sandbuster, or maybe Armorwing?

Drago - Catastrophic Quaken

Ragnar - Crimson Goregutter

Chaghatai Khan - Changewing

Griselda - Fireworm Queen? I genuinely don't know

Grimmel - Razorwhip x Death Song hybrid

Excluding Mildew, Savage and Gruffnut because I cannot take them seriously, nor care about them enough.

[kathrahender]

Hello ....Do you mind if I ask your top 5 (or top 10) favorite moments from any media that you love (can be books, anime/manga, tv series, movies, games, etc)? Thanks if you want to answer. Sorry if I ask too much....

Heeey thank you for the ask! Of course you can ask me things like these!

Conversation Zeb Orrelios and Alexsandr Kallus have after getting out of the cave in the episode Honorable Ones (2x17) of Star Wars Rebels.

Slade and Robin fighting together against Trigon's soldiers in the episode The End: Part 2 (4x12) of Teen Titans because I love so much the "Enemy Mine" trope.

All scenes Viggo Grimborn and Hiccup Haddock have together in the episode Triple Cross (6x08) of Race To The Edge because they have to work together to defeat Johan and Krogan (and I love the Enemy Mine trope)

Pitch Black's "Join Me" speech to Jack Frost in Rise of The Guardians because I also love the "We Can Rule Together" Trope.

Walter Strickler and Jim Lake's fight in the Recipe for Disaster (1x11) episode of Trollhunters because the angst potential is awesome.

Megatron saving Optimus Prime in the episode One Shall Rise (1x25) of Transformers Prime and then them holding hands and making a truce.

Catra's love confession to Adora in the episode Heart Part 2 (5x13) of She-Ra and the Princesses of Power because I love them together.

Erik Lensherr and Charles Xavier's last scene in X-Men: Dark Phoenix because it's beautiful.

Barry Allen trying to convince Eobard Thawne of helping him in the episode of Flashback (2x17) of The Flash. Actually, all the scenes between them in that episode.

When Oliver Queen and Slade Wilson become friends again after years of bitterness (an euphemism) in the episode Lian Yu (5x23) of Arrow.

[revive-the-fandom]

Hey! Saw your essay about the inconsistencies. Ah ye. When contrasting the Httyd movies with the shows, I like to not take it all that seriously. "But the shows are canon!!!!!" the shows are a beautiful and meaningful AU of the movies and vice versa; I've fared wonderfully treating them like that. Keeping the good parts for inspo and tossing the rest tbh.

E.g. I'm keeping Dagur and Viggo and the Fireworms for canon. Maybe there was an outpost called Dragon's Edge once, but I like to think to myself that Hiccup merely used it as a weekend base camp / storehouse for further explorations rather than actually living there for extended periods of time. He had to make all his Httyd2 improvements on Berk somehow within those five years lol. He would have had to abandon Dragon's Edge wayyy earlier to be able to have a constant presence on his home island that would earn him the village's support and Stoick's eye regarding Chieftainship. I'm definitely keeping the volcano eruption though. Also the Buffalord, the amazing Season 4 Hiccstrid kiss, the Night Terrors and Chicken. And of course the gang becoming better friends.

...On the other hand I'm definitely treating Heather, Mala, the Wingmaidens and all the dragons I don't personally like as vivid fever dreams lol. I'm also ignoring the comics. Had Hiccup truly encountered Viggo and gone through all of that Rtte character development canonically, he wouldn't have acted as naive as he did in Httyd2... Viggo already taught him better than that.

Those are just my two cents, they are also helping me embrace such things as Homecoming etc.

If you could build your canon however you liked, what would you keep? :)

I don't know if you meant it like this but I do want to clarify that I adore the first 2 movies, GotNF, LotB, RoB, DoB, and RttE. And I like elements of Httyd 3 and Homecoming, but not them in general.

(I have no intention of reading the comics - they don't interest me).

Criticising stuff I like, and pulling it apart to see how it ticks is literally my biggest hobby, so, no problems enjoying it there.

I would honestly keep most of it, so here's a list of some of what I'd remove instead:

The inconsistencies between httyd 1 ending and RoB opening - mostly to do with the dragons' integration into Berk and the new infrastructure for the dragons.

Stoick's inconsistent and easily swayed opinion on the dragons - he would never allow them to be banished from Berk unless he was physically forced to. They saved Hiccup's life, they pretty much are Hiccup's life, and he would never dishonour Valka's memory by going against her ideals (esp since her son basically redeemed her weirdness by proving her right 15 years later).

Gothi's role - she shouldn't be the only healer on Berk, she shouldn't even be a healer. They made new characters for Mulch, Bucket, Mildew, Johann, Silent Sven, Alvin, Savage, Dagur and Heather (and most of those are males) so just kick one of those out and build a new healer for Berk (bonus points if its a relation of one of the Riders e.g. a Thorston).

Johann's villain arc - I've talked about this a lot already so I won't repeat myself but this was an atrocious direction to take.

Viggo's redemption happening off screen

Dagur's redemption happening off screen

the Hunters having exactly the same ships as Drago (who comes from outside the archipelago & is designed with a different aesthetic than the vikings)

inconsistencies with the Hunter's Lore

Ryker being forgotten - the brother of ur main villain???? hello?

Krogan being so inconsistent...

Where are the women warriors???

Defenders of the Wing Lore Inconsistencies

Mala's whole personality - during the trial episode and marriage episodes especially

nearly every woman has a love interest

Dagur x Mala (not necessarily the ship - fandom adds depth to it tbh - but just how the show itself handles it)

Throk x Ruffnut (it's fine its just boring and doesn't add anything)

Gruffnut. the man annoys me - his design is lazy, his voice is annoying, he has an intruiging opportunity to add depth to the thorstons but is never utilised

Agnut. same as above

Astrid being in love with Hiccup but only in a conventional "im a woman and I will get jealous at any opportunity" kind of way

Gustav's lack of character development

the A team should not include those characters. Bucket and Mulch are farmers WHAT are they doing here. Gothi is old as fuck and she's got important shit to be doing (like apparently being the ONLY healer on Berk - srsly what r u gonna do when she dies?). Spitelout is on the Berk Council and is one of the main leaders of their military, why would he want to be bossed around by a 19 yro. the only one who makes sense is Gustav.

why does Astrid have to build the A team at all?? shouldn't Stoick or the entire military force of Berk teach themselves to use dragons to fight off invaders????

Astrid being so inconsistent with her suspicions and cautions.

Astrid randomly deciding to be Mother to dragons like Garf and throwing away all her military training and paranoia to bring said dragons on actual military operations??? like just say you needed a conflict and picked The Woman to throw under the bus.

Heather's (and Oswald's) mild backstory inconsistency.

Heather being a femme fatale.

Posing for the camera

The Wingmaidens - they're an obvious scramble to add female characters but they fall short on believability and worldbuilding.

The Bewilderbeast beneath Beserker Island. I don't like how... fucky.. this makes the plot. We didn't need this, we could have just ended on Johann & Krogan heading towards Valka's mountain, which could explain why Hiccup was still exploring the archipelago in httyd 2. then we could have done a post-credits-esque scene with Valka decimating Johann and Krogan. boom, vibes preserved, plotholes kind of prevented.

ok theres probably a lot more but this was all i could think of. Ik it looks like a lot but most of it is just tweaking canon. the majority of RoB, DoB, and RttE are wonderful. otherwise I wouldn't give half of a shit about them.

[theroomfloor]

HTTYD X ATLA AU

Yes, I will draw them. Someday… I promise

I'm starting from the idea that the 4 nations aren't completely divided, and that benders of the 4 elements live together, as in the case of Berk, although the most common are firebenders. It's become a big mix and that's why it's harder to know who will be the next Avatar

Hiccup: The Avatar. However, when he was born, apparently, He didn't bend any of the elements, considered a nonbender, until find out he's the Avatar.

Astrid: Waterbender. Yes, again using the blue outfit as justification, but I also think water suits her. She and Katara would be besties.

Fishlegs: Earthbender. What I like about earthbending is that it's a completely opposite element to his personality, he's a kind and adorable guy, while earthbending is hard and offensive. But it completely suits him too, because he's protective and strong, and he likes gardening. Bonecrusher likes it for sure

Snotlout: Firebender. Do I really need to explain about this?

Tuffnut and Ruffnut: Airbenders. They're both airheads, so. But seriously, I think the air really suits them, how much they would mess around. Just look at Tenzin's children, or even Aang himself.

Heather: Nonbender. For me, she would be like Asami (and Astrid could be Korra, I'm just saying). Strong and powerful without needing to bend. She would be good with weapons but would also use technology.

Dagur: Firebender. Honestly, it's the most offensive element and it can create lightning, do you want more explanations? But also, I like the idea of him being a Nonbender like his sister. Like, being an heir, they expected him to be a powerful bender, but he ended up disappointing his family and people. So he went through such heavy training that it ruined his psychology.

Mala: She and the entire Defenders of the Wings tribe are Nonbenders. A tribe that lives isolated and without any benders, having a certain repudiation for them, until they meet the Avatar and his gang.

Atali: She and the Wingmaidens are also Nonbenders, but they would be more like the Kyoshi Warriors. Or they could also be like Gliders, so they could "fly".

Now some that I'm just going to throw here and won't comment on

Stoick, Spitelout and Gustav: Firebenders

Gobber: Non or Earthbender (especially Metalbender)

Gothi: Waterbender

Viggo: Non or Waterbender (especially Bloodbender. Thanks @reallyprofoundkryptonite for the idea)

Ryker: Earth or Firebender

Krogan: Fire or Nonbender

There're a lot of characters missing, but I can't think of anyone else right now. The main ones are here. Feel free to give your opinions and headcanons.

[ziggityzigg]

Krogan and Snotlout huh?

Very well, here I bring another curse ship I actually kinda like: Eret and Viggo

Can I hear your thoughts?

I myself actually got a few ideas such as Eret beating Viggo in Maces and Talons which drives Viggo crazy because he can't figure out how he did it and the fact that this is and isn't a ship as it come from an idea that these two once slept together and don't remember it until they meet (don't remember, just seem familiar to each other) and later on they talk about lonely life of the sailor and when Viggo says his one experience, Eret points out that it's very similar to his one time.

Then the similarities get too similar and they(and everyone is their company) realizes 😂

That's my hc about this ship.

Now your thoughts:

Okay, I would find Eret x Viggo funny. And them sleeping together, is something they would do. My thoughts are maybe they didn’t have just a night stand, and actually met each other once, Maybe a stranded ship, or an ally. Possibly helping eachother out: Like Eret trapping dragons and giving them to Viggo to sell before Eret turned good or when Viggo died from the arrows (If you canon that he died)

Remember in “How to train your Dragon: The hidden world” when Eret was talking about Grimmel and Hiccup said this line “Well, we delt with people like this before.” That was definitely a reference to Viggo. And Eret knew, since Viggo and Grimmel are alike (basically Grimmel being a copy or something.) (Headcanon that Hiccup and Eret chat about him since they both known him.)

Plus, Viggo indeeds needs another stud. He is just surrounded by all of them (Ryker, Dagur, Krogan)

[somerandomjewelleryonthefloor]

Me: *Scrolling through the Krogan tag and seeing a bunch of Viggo x Krogan content*

Me (Who ships Ryker with Krogan cuz nice crackship): ....................................... 𝐖𝐞𝐥𝐥 𝐈 𝐡𝐨𝐩𝐞 𝐓𝐮𝐦𝐛𝐥𝐫 𝐝𝐨𝐧𝐭 𝐠𝐞𝐭 𝐨𝐧 𝐦𝐲 𝐚𝐬𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐝𝐨𝐱𝐱 𝐦𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬-

[reallyprofoundkryptonite]

more of them

[cujokroggo]

And I want my Viggo x Krogan yaoi but noooo people wanna ship him with some kids he hates.

fuck vigcup i want weird uncle! viggo or adopted older cousin! viggo or smth.

where’s my viggo who acts like a lil shit whenever someone does something ryker would do? where’s my viggo very awkwardly trying to be better for hiccup and teach him how to be a better strategist and chief?? where’s my viggo that tries (and fails) to leave the edge after his final “demise”/recovery and can’t bc these children are constantly on the brink of doing something stupid enough to get themselves killed for no reason? (he still can’t fathom how they not only defeated him but also somehow turned him to their side.)

where’s my viggo who struggles with the death of his brother and (quite possibly) the fall of his entire tribe and then some?? bro understands dragons but can’t get a grip on the whole emotional relationship that comes with having his own dragon (the skrill). he’s the stupidest genius you’ll ever meet and doesn’t know how to care for children no matter their age. especially the riders.

i just want more viggo redemption fics where he’s the biggest dumbass this side of the archipelago

[duoatomica]

Viggo: Ay Krog man.

Krogan: Hm?

Viggo: Y'know, when babies get sad or mad, they put boobs in their mouth and they instantly calm down.

Krogan: Yeah and?

Viggo: Now you know what to do when I get sad or mad.

Krogan: You're 37, Viggo.

Viggo: But you always call me baby... *Forces a sad face*

Krogan: Damn... *Lifts his shirt*

[lilliths-httyd-blog]

RttE plays Minecraft but I'm still awake at 7:00 am from insomnia

Snotlout: Screams every time there is creeper

Ryker: Has amassed an army of wolves and is coming for your iron

Astrid: Has full iron on the first night somehow and is currently setting up defense systems against Ryker in her base

Tuffnut: Is making pixel art all over the server but is constantly getting distracted so there's just unfinished pixel art everywhere

Ruff: Making a cow torture pit

Fishlegs: Is on a seperate world on Peaceful mode because mobs are scary

Krogan: "Krogan drowned while trying to fight Drowned" keeps appearing in the chat log every five minutes because he wants a trident so bad and it's starting to become a running joke at this point

Hiccup: Is causing extreme server lag because of how many redstone farms he has operating at once

Viggo: Trying to set up a villager trading hall but the zombies are infecting all the villagers and he is just screaming "SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT" over and over

Dagur: Is the one who fucked up Viggo's trading hall and is livestreaming the whole ordeal in a fit of laughter watching Viggo panic

Heather: Finishing Tuff's abandoned pixel art

Johann: Failing miserably to hack the server

Stoick: Is just never online

Gobber: Is on Fishlegs' world building a nice wheat farm and hanging out with the interesting pink sheep he found

Gruffnut: Banned for using x-ray mods

Gustav: Spawned the Wither at spawn like a dumbass

Mala: Trying to kill Viggo in the midst of all the chaos Dagur is causing

Atali: AFKing at the creeper farm because dear Thor she needs gunpowder for these firework rockets

Gothi: Has never played Minecraft but can somehow speak Enchanting Table

[sco07ut]

the mercs as johann, viggo and krogan !

felix dies almost the same way as johann, instead of being frozen inside the cave, the bewilderbeast rams its body into one of the walls and the shockwave is strong enough to knock him off the cliff (reminiscent of him falling from the tower in rvb)

instead of being killed by his boss like krogan was, sharkface is killed by carolina in the final battle for the king of dragons bc again, reflective of canon

and locus gets to live <33 yes ik ur thinking scrat the whole point of viggo’s arc is that he dies the moment he redeems himself but u know what? idc he saves the day with a changewing he finds (as opposed to viggo’s skrill) and after that they fly away into the sunset together

i think this post is where the distinction between it being a race to the edge au instead of a httyd movie au is important bc literally none of these characters are in the films so erm sorry if u haven’t seen the series x