#just because i have low empathy
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i am not a monster for my low-empathy. i am not lesser than you. i am not sub-human. i am not a bad person. i am not evil. i am not a serial killer. i am not a freak.
I AM NOT A MONSTER.
#I AM NOT A MONSTER#hello internet#say it with me#say it with me now#i am not a monster#just because i have low empathy#low-empathy#low empathy#actually austistic#autism#cw: serial killer#maybe#tw: serial killer#that mght be a trigger#so i put it there
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charlie's low empathy/high sympathy desperation to help people without ever really understanding WHY they feel the way they do + vaggie's complex about needing to be useful to the people she loves or else she's worthless = charlie completely mistaking vaggie's self-sacrifical behavior for an expression of love and not the trauma response that it is, because all she's grasping are the literal words out of vaggie's mouth and not the alarming nuances of terrified self-hatred lurking underneath
#wauhghgg i could say so much about charlie's obvious low empathy traits.... she is so autistic fr#and i think lucifer is her exact opposite!!! high empathy/low sympathy!!#but my main point is that charlie and vaggie are so fascinating together bc they're not overtly messy but they do have a lot of underlying#problems / flaws / differences that inform their dynamic. they're not boring just because they're affectionate & supportive of each other!!#charlie morningstar#vaggie#hazbin hotel#chaggie#charlie#fallenstar#op
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maybe i'm swinging a bat at a hornet's nest here but as an aroace person, i think it's kind of messed up to say that levi is canonically aroace now
yes, he said that he doesn't care about people and that concepts like empathy, compassion, and love are unfamiliar to him. but attraction is not the same as any of those words. i get that people may want to headcanon him as aroace (especially since we don't get a whole lot of representation in the first place), but to insist that it's canon feeds into stereotypes about people with low empathy and aroace people alike
#i have a lot of anecdotes about this but i didn't want this post to be too long#again there's absolutely nothing wrong with HEADCANONING it#because some people with low empathy/personality disorders/etc do consider themselves aroace because of their condition#but at the same time other people with those traits DO experience attraction and can be in relationships#so to see a character with low empathy and immediately assume they MUST be aroace feels like it feeds into harmful stereotypes#along with the ever-present issue of most ace rep being people who aren't 'normal' or straight up inhuman#also just to be petty: i think if the dev intended for levi to be aroace he would have been on the confirmed sexuality list#drdt#levi fontana#danganronpa despair time
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it's always a bad time to have hyperempathy but it's especially not fun today
#the useless kind. you know. well#you know how being low empathy means nothing regarding how you show support and consideration to others#same with hyper empathy it just means you get caught in useless spirals of Imagining What Bad Things Are Like#In Great Detail#i would prefer. not this. thank you#dysfunction junction#has taught me nothing about how to interact with other humans functionally. has taught me much about#having ptsd because your dad stepped on a baby mouse when you were 11.
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it's been like 10 hours and i am still thinking about gerry child experimentation canon. fuck my entire life
#r.txt#confirmed in tmagp which i do not listen to and will not listen to but i was Shown The Evidence#this also confirms that he's a candidate for DID in addition to his already extremely traumatic Rest Of Canon Story Don't Fight Me On It#because he would have been 7-11 years old#probably Closer to 11 though if he was one of the last ones experimented on before the institute burned down#so not DID forming but certainly contributing to the highly likely prior split! his mother is mary keay! he had baby trauma#almost never seen a character more likely to have DID than him and i have seen a good handful#now i'm just on my soapbox about how common DID actually is in our society given the huge prevalence of childhood trauma#anyway. this is the spiral i was sent on because of this new information#still won't be listening to the new thing but i can't resist objectively horrible facts about my poor fucking baby#they did the milgram experiment on him! and he scored low! because obviously!#empathy index 95%! baby!!!!#ugh. ugh!#the things this could have influenced in pbrrrrr. in TSP!!!! fuck!#if i really did just bring pbr back out of nowhere it'd fit right into the scene i was gonna do in the next chapter which is insane#uuuugh
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something really funny to me about my mom really thinking i wanted to become a therapist because i'm taking psychology & have like 2-3 psych books
i would genuinely be The Worst therapist i simply wouldn't be able to care about any of my patients . i would believe i am better than my patients . it would be a circus .
#cluster b#npd#bpd#i just have a special interest in psychiatry. sociology mostly. i'm Only in this class for the sociology#even then i disagree with a lot of things in psychiatry#have been dealing with mental health systems since i was 9 and all it has done is make me absolutely despise it all#i get the feeling she thinks i'm a “i'm so inspired by the treatment i've recieved that i'm gonna pursue this career path!!” on the contrary#i feel like if i became a therapist it'd be a moral failing on my end because of how much i've hated this system#if i became a therapist i would hate every minute of it for numerous different reasons#it's saying a lot to say ive never once considered becoming a therapist when i consider everything else from animation to archaeology#also when i say i have “low empathy” i don't mean “oh i can feel empathy in multiple situations it's just a very minor amount” i mean#that it's rare for me to have empathy. i cannot even reliably experience empathy with my ep or fp and when i do it's usually very minor#i'd be better suited as a brain surgeon before being in charge of somebody's mental health 💀💀💀
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I hate that I have reoccurring themes in everything I make. YES this guy has a complex over the fact that everyone prefers his sibling AGAIN. YES he was ostracized by his peers since he was in primary school and never knew why until years later. URGH
#i dont know why the siblings thing ends up coming up as often as it does (read: i know exactly why) but uuurggh#do you ever. have an inside joke with your sibling that your abusive dad prefers you over them and it's so established it's casual banter#but everyone you've ever tried to be sincere with (your mother; your peers) have consistantly preferred your sibling over you#even your own friends and kids who were closer to your age range than theirs#do you ever have a conversation with your best friend where they tell you that at first they didn't want to be friends with you#because you were ''too Weird''#do you ever get praised by a friend who says she envied you in middle school because you ''never cared about being different''#meanwhile you had no idea you were different and just couldn't fucking fix it#it took me that to understand that people avoided me because i was Weird. i thought the reason i had no friends was bc i was shy#that and the fact that i Didnt Know What Was Socially Acceptable Or Not and other kids were scared of me bc i was ''to blunt''#i have learned to value honesty over nearly everything else but that's only because i wish everyone else did the same.#literally everything i write has a main protagonist with low to no emotional empathy. like. ok#every character i write has that thing where they always felt like they were a monster for not feeling the right things. mh#i wonder how that might reflect on how my whole world came crashing down once i realised emotional empathy is A Real Thing#and not just a lie people made up for virtue signaling#''there's no way people /literally/ feel sad /for/ other people. they just know rationally that it's bad'' deep sigh.#anyway thats why i will never shut up about the fact that empathy is morally neutral and not a prerequisite for being a ''''good person''''#emotions are morally neutral. thats why we say all emotions are valid. thats why thought crimes aren't real#in short: you will pry human!au no empathy janus and autistic remus from my cold dead hands#i have. so many fucking thoughts.#janus is literally JUST like ME for REAL#except for the lying mostly because i !!! taught myself out of that#THE AMOUNT OF WORK I HAVE DONE ON MYSELF. I HAVE CLAWED MY WAY OUT OF THE TRENCHES OF MENTAL ILLNESS ON MY OWN AND I AM PROUD OF THAT#MAYBE it's because i can never open up to anyone ever BUT it's also because im SKILLED and SWAG and SELF-AWARE and THE BEST EVER. and MODEST#rant#the tag rambler strikes again . apologies
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*THIS IS NOT A SCALE WITH STRICT DEFINITIONS. empathy is socially constructed and circumstantial and can be used to mean about a million different things. so this is like. as overly-simplified a question as possible.
the context is i'd consider myself low/no empathy and i'm curious about the range of experience of people here.
#feel free 2 rb if u want to elaborate on ur answer#i have strong opinions on how empathy is socially defined/constructed and how#lack of internal empathy is not pathological and does not correlate to a person's external actions#so in some ways this poll feels like it's undermining myself. because my position is generally. Who Fuckin Cares#but when i talk about being low empathy sometimes i get people going 'wow i feel like this too' and sometimes#i get people being like 'uh i would Never feel like that in A Million Years'#and i am curious. and i luv being able 2 just have ppl click a button about it.#polls#low empathy
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Idc if I seem like a dick for saying this but:
NOT EVERY IMAGE NEEDS AN IMAGE IDENTIFICATION. NOT EVERYONE NEED TO CATER TO YOUR NEEDS. 
#:33< text !#just because you have a disability#doesn’t mean everyone needs to cater to it#im (mentally) disabled myself and I don’t expect everyone to cater to my needs.#I fear that is common sense#———————————————————#tumblr is so sensitive#image ids#disability#disabled#mentally disabled#disabilties#mental health#mental illness#mental wellness#low empathy#low sympathy#idgaf anymore#npd#actually npd#narcissistic pd#actually narcissistic
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I'm interested to know your opinion about this https://www.tumblr.com/sad-outsider/745487303531692032/while-everyone-is-wondering-how-two-babies-could?source=share
it is an interesting question, how did AFO become such a skilled manipulator if he grew up feral on the streets? here's my thoughts:
so I don't think from the beginning AFO was all that interested in other humans. we're told that those who didn't give him anything he viewed with distrust and disdain, and the two times we see him coming across some people as a child it's just him killing them. maybe he watched them warily when they passed by, but ultimately he didn't engage with any of them to talk directly (as far as we know). BUT it's been pointed out by others that they had a radio with them as is shown with the circle below
well it does looks like a radio to me and it would make sense that was one of their connections to the outside world (though they wouldn't understand a lot of what was being talked about) and to me it makes sense if a radio was later how afo found out about what the glowing baby was up to. so he was at the very least a little interested in hearing what the others were doing, perhaps to analyze any potential threats and maybe he was a tiny bit curious deep down about the society that rejects them, but evidently AFO wasn't interested in trying to make direct contact with them or try to involve himself in their society and none of them bothered with him either.
that is until he read that one comic book. see the thing afo admired about the villain was how people feared and revered him and so he decided he wanted that for himself. after a lifetime of being ignored by people who passed by him on the street he wanted to become something they feared so they'll follow him and never have their eyes off him. and in order to become that he needed power. he already has an extremely powerful quirk, but he needs to obtain loyal followers to help him enact his will of becoming the ultimate evil who rules over everything. I'm sure AFO realized that in order to make his dream become a reality he was going to need to use other people and I think that's when he decided to begin studying the way other humans act to get a better sense in how to get them to do what he wants.
and I would say he did this by studying various media he came across at first. whether it's looking through books or magazines (remember twins were barely learning how to read when they were small and by the time afo declares his dream they look more like teenagers so I think afo was able to read better by this time), and later maybe he found tvs where he can watch shows that were airing and see the news. so through that he studied the culture, what is deemed acceptable and unacceptable, how to present himself in a way to get others to respect him. overall he would be far more interested in the world that he had no interest in before as he sees there are things he could take for himself there and get people to give him things. I also think after he's done going through media he would've stalked some people to see how they live and act, there are some things you can't learn through media so afo would want to learn more through observing those he comes across.
I like to headcanon that he would see one person passing him by on the street then stalk them for the whole day until they fell asleep. then the next day he would choose a different person who passes by him and stalks them for the rest of the day and does that until he feels like he's learned enough. then later on he would engage in small talk with people he sees to get a better feel of interacting with others and see what they respond well to and what they don't. the more he learns about the nature of people the more he learns how to use their emotions against them and predict their reactions to certain actions.
side note I would also like to point out that afo presents himself more masculine and wears business professional attire all the time. this is important to note because afo grew up without gender socialization, which tells me he saw how business men are typically seen by society as people to be respected and hardworking. so he chooses presents himself as someone who gives off the vibe that he's someone powerful and should be taken seriously by wearing the suit and tie. trying to manipulate people isn't just something you do with words, but also with the way you present yourself to others. you want to carefully craft an image of yourself that makes others view you as what you want them to view you as so you can gain their trust easier which is what I think afo did there.
I think once he feels confident enough though he would begin practicing his manipulation skills on others.
now look here:
afo intervenes with these group of people fighting in the streets and brings peace. I feel like he would do this often, bring order among the chaos he comes across and presents a choice. "if you feel powerless and scared then join me and I'll give you everything you want and more, or don't and remain as you are. all I really want to do is help you out :)"and many did choose to join! look at all those people around afo, those are probably all the people who chose to follow him.
I think afo would've seen how badly metas were treated by society and saw how desperate people were for order and someone to turn to. people can be manipulated more easily if they're scared and looking for anyone to help them, and afo would've seen this as a great way to begin building his empire by preying on the desperate. he crafted this image of himself that not only embodies power but also generosity. he took quirks away from the unworthy and gave them to those who wanted power. makes people think things like look how good he is to those who please him! he presented himself as a savior to the people, and manipulated them by taking advantage of their own vulnerability.
all he really had to do was lend a sympathetic ear and show them hey I was an outcast like you to appear relatable and demonstrate the power he had to those are were scared and felt like they couldn't protect themselves. they saw him as a personal savior who seemed to genuinely care about their plights. of course afo doesn't care about the plights of his fellow meta humans, he just wants to use them for his own purposes then tosses them out once he's done (as yoichi points out). but he seemed so genuine in his words that many fell for it which allowed him to manipulate them further. and so many became so entranced by him that they began to attack his enemies in his name without him ordering them to do so.
of course I don't think afo was always a successful manipulator in the beginning, maybe there was a social custom he overlooked and it made him look bad in someones eyes. maybe he said the wrong thing and it made someone distrust him more. there would be a lot of trial and error on his part when trying to learn to manipulate, but as he interacts with people more and learns from his past mistakes he would get much better until he becomes the excellent manipulator he is today.
and to me afo would have multiple personas he puts on when interacting with different people. two people could meet him but comes out with very different impressions about who he is as a person. he hides his true nature (which is said to feel unsettling to be around) so they would trust him more. I think he would enjoy this game really, stringing people along and making them feel he cares so they can give him what he wants. as I said before no one gave him anything as a child so he feels he has to take it for himself, and manipulation would be one of those tools he uses to get what he wants so he would take time to develop that skill through the things I've said before.
#I feel like I might off went too off topic at some points but this is just my final thoughts on it but....#he would practice his social skills by taking random minions out to lunch#the whole time they're like “omg the boss likes me so much he went out of his way to eat with me 😫❤️❤️❤️”#and a41's like “hm am I making the right face right now? am I using the right tone or am I coming across as too cold? its so exhausting-#to keep up appearances"#because things like that are not easy for a41 who I imagine to have low empathy which makes him struggle socially at times#but he sees it as important to keep up his social skills so he can be a good manipulator
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Not sure where exactly this counts on the empathy/sympathy/compassion categorizations but my experience with seeing others be visibly feeling bad and in distress is that like, I do notice what they're feeling and understand it but I don't care and it's just. Awkward to me. Like, I don't want them to be sad but I don't want to anything about it either, it's just so annoying to me, I want them to get over it as fast as possible and stop acting Like That because it stresses me out too.
And when I say it stresses me out I don't mean it's because I just feel for them that hard, I just want it to be over because I'm scared of what they'll do. Like I don't want to be in the same room as them anymore but I can't leave, because that'd be rude and they will be mad at me. I don't want to comfort them and I don't know how, but they will expect me to, and become angry with me and think I'm a terrible person and who knows how they'll treat me then from that point. And I'm terrified of angry people, usually if my family members are looking angry and screaming I just panic and do anything to not have to speak to them and avoid them until it stops, and that also goes for anyone else. (me still after typing all that out: still no trauma lol must have been the wind that just made me born this weird)
And like. Sometimes I do want to do something about it, because I like the person and I want them to stop feeling bad but I have like. No idea what to even do then partially because one. I don't actually want to but also I want to but also not really. And two. I don't do this because I care about their problems to that degree, I just want them to behave like I'm used to them behaving again and to not be so occupied by what's happening to them so they'll have more time to pay attention to me instead again. All my thoughts just left my head as I was typing everything and now I forgot everything I was about to say. Aw shucks.
Anyway I just. People having negative emotions just either annoy me or set off my fear responses and I don't want to talk to them then until they stop, I also don't want to look like I'm a bad person or make them think that means I don't care about them. I usually just wait it out or awkwardly approach them with some low energy "ummm get well soon irl blorbo". I wanna be nice to people because then they're gonna like me (which will make me care about their feelings somewhat) but oh god the cost. the cost....................
Anyway uhhhhh neurodivergent tumblr. Any tips for feigning concern and comforting other people that sounds authentic and will make them (correctly) think I care about their feelings. That'd be awesome.
#the exception to my no empathy/low sympathy rule are small children#like if they're in any amount of distress nevermind how minor or if they're just ''throwing a tantrum for no reason''#i just get so anxious and need to get out of here as fast as i can because it just makes me wanna cry. and some of these encounters actuall#stick with me for several years or maybe forever#do i still want to personally do anything about it? well if i can just avoid it i will. if i stick around for any longer itll just make me#panic more. sometimes just a mere mention or sight of some toddler makes me stressed even if nothing is happening to them#like. idk. i wish i could just never have to be in contact with any person acting angry or sad ever again#low empathy#low sympathy#low compassion#actually autistic#actually npd#<- i mean. i thiiiink these are just the ones that *mainly* make me feel that way#i dont know if this is comprehensible or if i even typed what i wanted to type. my brain and thoughts are disobedient little rascals
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I wanna do an entire post about how much I love low empathy ortho and think it’s cute and sweet… ortho is like a thousand traits that are SO easy to make ableist stereotypes about autism but they handle the traits so delicately and well that instead he becomes a very VERY lovingly made autistic coded character.
What really sets him apart is with a lot of autistic coded robots’ autistic traits are used to dehumanize, but on ortho they’re actually used to HUMANIZE him instead. His curiosity and intense special interests are like an actual autistic little boys and it’s meant to show he really is just a normal boy despite his body. That curiosity is also why I think he’s low empathy but in a positive light, he doesn’t necessarily understand why people feel certain ways but he wants to which is why he asks so much and spends so much time with others
#The learning how to behave through movies is also mega low empathy but I want to like gather my thoughts and make them actually organized#VS me just having a stream of consciousness through how much I love my little brother. Tagging it anyways though because I Love Him#twst#ortho shroud
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Sometimes, I think it’s really important to remember/understand that you (general you, not talking to anyone specific) will not be able to connect to everyone’s experiences. And that’s okay.
Specifically in the context of autism, there’s the crucial truth that autism is a broad, chaotic spectrum. People who have low support needs will never be able to fully understand what it’s like to have high support needs, people who can speak will never be able to fully understand what it’s like to be nonspeaking, etc. So please, don’t say that you do because sometimes you have bad days, or because sometimes you lose the capability to speak. Autistic individuals that are more marginalized than others oftentimes face the worst of the violence and discrimination. They deserve to not have their struggles minimized by autistic people who don’t understand what it’s like to be like them.
And this understanding should go both ways, too. Different people will have differing experiences, and so they will need different communities. Autistic people who have high masking capabilities and are experiencing burnout will not be able to relate well to autistic people who can’t mask much/at all and wish they could. Those two groups need different communities. This isn’t to say that those two groups should never interact and ignore each other, as that never ends well, but having different struggles means that you will find comfort in different groups.
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Have a nice day, and lets be kind to one another, yeah?
(If I said anything that’s wrong, hard to understand, ignorant, or that you simply disagree with, please let me know! This also goes for anything important that I may have left out. Oh, and any grammar mistakes I may have made.)
#I don’t quite understand why so many seem to have problems with this#maybe I don’t have as many problems with this because I’m already used to not being to relate to others well#lower levels of empathy and all that#autism spectrum disorder#asd#autism#actually autistic#autistic#be kind#just be kind#nonspeaking#nonverbal#masking#low support needs#high support needs
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Someone please explain empathy to me like you're explaining water to a fish
#sfw#personal#ok to reblog#what do you even tag something like this#idk man I'm pretty sure I have empathy and I think it's high but I don't know because I'm not sure what it actually is#and because I don't know what it is I don't know what its absence even means I don't understand what it means to be low empathy#I don't know what the difference actually is and I feel like I'm a fish seeing a bird fly and not knowing how that isn't just swimming#I know it isn't swimming but I don't understand the difference and I want to understand what it is#if birds are not bound to the solid bottom what is the difference between water and air it seems more effort but why? what makes it harder?#what is water and what does it mean to be outside of it#I'm gonna shut up and post now sorry
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No/Low empathy culture is seeing the comment section of short film, 'Horacio' being a whole bunch of anti low empathy/sympathy idiots and being so exhausted. People do not need empathy in order to not kill someone!! We just Choose not to kill others, is that not what everyone is doing??
Like low empathy is not why that guy killed Horacio, he needs work on his impulse control and noise suppression headphones.
no/low empathy culture is
#mod gabriel#low empathy#no empathy#low empathy culture is#low/no empathy#low/no empathy culture is#no empathy culture is#queued post culture is#I wonder if a specific word for anti-low empathy/sympathy/compassion rhetoric or people would be useful.#On the one hand it's often an expression of sanism or ableism (in the sense of 'oh he has no empathy hes such a narcissist'#as well as low/no empathy being used as an accusation against neurodivergent and mentally ill people to discredit or abuse them.)#But on the other hand there are plenty of cases where it isn't really like that.#I worry that we'd just be reinventing the wheel if sanism or ableism could describe this... but I feel like it wouldn't describe it#with accuracy. And it's not always or strictly an expression of sanism or ableism. So. I don't know.#Politically it'd be advantageous to lump it in with sanism and ableism because these are already understood concepts#and it'd give us an edge in being taken seriously. But there are so many people in disabled & neurodivergent spaces that are also#anti-low empathy/sympathy/compassion. And there's a lot of people who are sympathetic (ha) to our cause but still use phrases like#'lacks empathy' to describe a bad person or a bigot. I worry that trying to join that community would end up causing a schism#which would make people in that community less likely to care for our cause.#I don't know.#And I don't think any of us can really articulate what we'd want out of political theory and activism anyway.#It'd be nice to feel safe in autistic spaces without worrying about people starting the 'oh autistics actually have empathy!!!' shit again.#Ok these tags are too long. Send post.
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i have bad news for anyone who expects mental illness to be family friendly
^ yeah!
#thats a pretty good summary of it.#ask#anon#arsenic#ok ill rant about the au and mentall illness— nick's not diagnosed with anything. doesnt mean he doesnt#- /have/ anything.#mostly im thinking npd and bpd but this dude just. is not self aware at all. nobody ever told him. oops#im also giving him low empathy because i'll give low empathy to any character im obsessed with#(read: im projecting) (same way im making sunny trans. have i ever mentioned sunny's trans in this AU)#anyway. sunny's autistic but ive said that one before#nick is a psychiatrist's wet dream i think.#for the record i dont think people with npd or bpd are evil. im not evil. my friends are not evil#this AU doesnt exist to be good representation! sorry#anyway narcissistic abuse is not a real thing and aspd was made up by psychiatrists who thought that surely people being violent-#- means they're mentally ill. they based the diagnostic criteria off of criminals. the dsm is made up and none of this is real#i could rant about the way PDs are treated for hours. do NOT give me an opportunity to do so#this AU is not good rep but if someone starts calling nick a psychopath or a sociopath i will bite !#omori#rant
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