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~~~Joker: Folie à Deux Spoilers ~~~
This is hideously long, I am so sorry.
Housekeeping
I really wanted to like this Movie, I saw the first one and was sufficiently whelmed; it was certainly a movie. However when trailers came round for Joker 2 and it was starring Gaga in a musical I was hyped, she's known for her brand of choreo dancing and out-there outfits, so i thought she'd be at home in this dancing clown's world.
Furthermore Harley might patch my biggest gripe with any Joker origin story which is that they miss the point. Joker was made as a formula break. Batman, the world's greatest detective, would fight the ecoterroist, the man who loves his wife and the catburglar with facts and logic™ but the Joker was a wild card (pun intended). He was used sparingly because he had no motive other than Chaos and he was uniquely only interested in Batman, not riches or love. However for this to work he has basically no backstory, he's just the clown prince of crime, you undercut this character by weiting a backstory, and that was my biggest issue with Joker I.
The way writers have gotten around this however is by making him interesting by proxy, and they usually use Harley. We don't know much about Joker from the animated series but we do know alot about him in how he treats Harley. As such, I thought introducing her to the second movie could allow for them to remove so much focus of Arthur's backstory and inner thoughts and start building him up into the Joker of myth, filtered through Harleys eyes.
However none of this actually happened; infact so little happened I have to ask you all to watch this movie so you don't accuse me of misrepresenting this train wreck. I usually give any non-Indie project some leeway as it's easy to walk back an indie project and only waste 100 dollars vs in a multimillion project, No one wants to tell the boss you need to start from scratch and waste 10 mill, now in this case? I would've watched the final product as an executive and said scrap it all, and then fired the writers that I'd accuse of using AI. With that let's get into it.
The Good
This is gonna be meanly short but I really tried.
Makeup & costume
This was phenomenal and I don't even say that in pity to bulk the good section, I'd genuinely say this surpasses most films and shows. The costumes looked properly dulled or muddy, most looked fitted for the actors and although I'm not a historical costumer they seemed to fit? Joker firmly breaks from the current trend of fresh of the line clothes that look costumey and captures a city on the brink.
Makeup is also beautiful and this is a production for the craft to shine in, both Phoneix and Gaga are made up perfectly depending on the scene, juggling Glam, Weariness and Clown-core beautifully. I also loved the story of Gaga's clown makeup, with her slowly gaining more with each musical break from reality. However I will say I dislike they didn't go full face like Phoneix had, does feel slightly like they refused to de-feminise Gaga.
Cinematography & Sets
Also beautiful, I will preface that within the narrative your really only shuttled between a prison complex and the courtroom which is quite disappointing, however where they go hard is the musical breaks from reality, these beautiful backdrops and lighting, along with perfect use of angles is phenomenonal, my standout being the tap dancing number (I believe the song is The Joker).
My favorite shot comes early in the film and it's when the four guards are escorting Arthur in the rain and open Umbrellas in the colours of the Joker, it's on the nose but I do love that pallete and it was a cute detail.
Confirmation of POV
This is a smaller one but I was thankful they used multiple POV's. It was draining in the first one to have to second guess if something actually happened, Joker II confirms the 6 murders happened and has shots from Harley's, the guards, and other prisoners POVs, creating a more concrete version of events than it's predecessor.
Stand out performances
I will admit I have always conflated character writing and acting knowing full well that the best actors can't resuscitate a poorly written character (looking at Malekith/Christopher Eccleston) however I'm flawed so I won't comment on Gaga's or Phoneix' acting as I won't be sure what's writing and what's performance.
Kicking it of, Harry Lawtey as Harvey Dent. I feel like he really captures the character of pre-2face Harvey, a brutal prosecutor with a bit of a prideful streak. He still wants to help Gotham but he's not one to humanize villians and Lawtey's tone when he talks about Arthur envisions this perfectly.
My second pick would be Leigh Gill as Gary Puddles, I will say production does their best to cram the most jokes at a little person's expense into Gill's time on screen which im not a fan of. However when Mr Puddles breaks down over how witnessing a murder affected him; how powerless he felt and how he can't function in day to day life anymore. It really hit me, it goes in the face of the narrative spinning around Arthur, how even if he's trying to be morally neutral his actions aren't just murders in a vacuum, he hurts even those he was close with. It was an amazing scene and that was solely to Gill's performance.
The Bad
This might be ungodly long and I have to say now, this might not even be all of it.
Everyone loves Arthur
I need everyone who called Rey a Mary Sue to tell me how Arthur isn't. It is unfathomably strange how everyone in this universe believes him to be the biggest social activist since MLK. 2 years since his murder spree, where on TV he said he killed the business men for shits n' gigs and then gave a milquetoast speech on how we live in society, he still has fans, hundreds, maybe thousands. We hear before the interview his first exclusive tell all is coming soon, so assumingly he's not been talkative since. Yet he has a whole social movement, he has a movie and not just that but in the on screen scenes every character is all about Arthur.
Keep in mind that the multiple POV's make this Movie more solid that the first, knowing that the amount every character centre's Arthur is insane. Harley has no character to the extent I'm calling it Girlboss Sexism where the second Arthur lays eyes on this Jezzabel he stops taking his meds and regresses on all his progress for love. She's girlbossing because she makes the joker worse not the otherway around, however it is still Sexism because we could replace her with the 1 ring and the plot wouldn't change. I have no clue why she's so obsessed with Arthur, or why she does anything other than "I Love The Joker". Outside of singing I think she gets maybe 10 minutes of dialouge which is being generous, to call this move a dualagoist movie would be to lie.
Harley isn't the only one bending over backwards for the most uncharismatic man however. We have Ricky Meline (His prison lackey who FUCKING DIES and the cop, Arthur and the narrative forget about) we have no idea why he idolizes Arthur, actually we can include the whole prison who start kinda-riots several times in support of him.
We have the defense, Maryanne Steward, and even though it's her job to defend Arthur, the level of faith this woman shows to him is frankly dumb. Oh, also he non consensually kisses her twice, both times she's never does more than reproachfully look at him, and doesn't even consider firing him as a client.
This isn't mentioning the BOMBERS who blew up the courthouse on a vague line, the prison guard who flip-flops between getting him into music class then beating him, or the jury who cycle between distressed and sympathetic. Let's be clear this man is pathetic, he has no personality other than sometimes manic, other than that he's despondent. He should not have this much support, it feels like a power fantasy for incel school shooters.
The plot
I've gone into it above the level of distortion the plot does for Arthur but really to call it a plot would be generous. We start with Arthur in prison awaiting trial, with no Harley and we end with Arthur in prison maybe awaiting trial/execution and no Harley +stabwounds. Nothing happens. I never thought my obsessions of phoneix wright and legally blonde would have an antichrist baby called joker: folie à deux but they did and the world won't know peace. The musical numbers don't advance the plot, the entire thing is setting up a court verdict we don't hear, and the opening animation posits a question I don't think even the writers know the answer to.
In the opening animation we see Arthur the clown be replaced by Joker the clown who goes on to shoot the talk show host, we don't know if Joker also killed the 3 business men, his coworker or his mum but oh well. The movie starts and we find out the court case hinges on if Joker actually exists so they can use DID as a grounds for insanity. Let's be clear, even if Arthur has DID, in the 60s/70s he's getting the death penalty, courts don't care about mental health now, you think they did more then? Secondly even if he's doesn't you spend 5 minutes with this man and you know he's so disassociated even without medication that he's got enough grounds for an insanity case. Either way we'll never know, the opening seems pretty clear that this is DID and is seems like Joker is provoked multiple times into fronting during court, but Arthur's ukulele apology to the jury at the end seems to make the answer be he's always been fully aware, which is frankly ludicrous.
The long and short being that there are no plot threads from either the first movie or this one that are answered, open-ended or no, which for a character study movie is abysmal.
The Ending
I was actually laughing by the end, and that isn't a compliment. This started with Arthur trying to stop Lee singing, mirroring the audience's views of this sad excuse for a jukebox musical, and finished when they snuck in one last unanswered question for the finale? Why was someone visiting Arthur? Was is Lee? Why? Did she miss him? Did she want to sing at him again? Was it baby batman?
Oh yeah, there was also some random shanking Arthur. I will admit, I was surprised by how blatant an answer was given in this duology of unexplained threads of films this was. Why is the joker older than batman by loads? I think we all inferred from Arthur's billions of fans that one of them will be Joker Joker but apparently this was the one question that needed a concrete answer, we even saw how he got those scars. It was unnecessary, and honestly I would've rathered seen Arthur get the chair as a send-off. It also posses the question of if the real Joker of this universe will have the same Harley or are Gaga's days numbered? (We don't have to worry, it's tanking so hard there won't be a third one).
In conclusion, the conclusion was a perfect summation of the entire movie, that is that, Harley had no actual role, Arthur was boring yet people are obsessed with him, and we're still stuck in this fucking prison.
Rapid fire time
I don't want to expand these into full points but some further issues -
This is super harmful to the representation of mental health, I won't go fully into it because I will double this post, but as someone who has a grab bag of everything this is on the same level as split bad wise.
God's O gods why was he uncuffed for the majority of the movie.
That jury took an hour? I would've set a speedrun, also why are you letting him get closer, he might whip out a gun or worse a ringlight and a camera.
I shouldn't of watched this a month after quitting smoking, this was just a cigarette Ad.
Is that how this universe's Harvey got 2face'ed because if so that is disappointingly light.
I had to Google every side characters name because they where all so unremarkable.
Why secure Gaga and then do a jukebox musical.
They did a live broadcasted trial for the first live broadcasted TV host shooting AND DID NOTHING WITH THAT CHEKHOV'S GUN.
This was actually chekhov's military arsenal, so many things I thought they'd circle back to, like the dead lackey, the tell all, or the expose interview on prison conditions, and they went nowhere.
The opening animation was ugly I'm sorry, it wasn't even a good homage.
The musical numbers where just I feel numbers so they ground the film to a halt.
This was the first movie I've ever had to turn my phone back on just to check the runtime for.
WHY SECURE GAGA IF YOU WON'T LET HER BELT.
TL;DR
My gods this was long, I think I've thought more about this film than the writers did, my new conspiracy theory is that this was a test for AI writing of major motion films. I cannot fathom how people are defending this Movie, if you've made it this far, firstly I'm so sorry you read all that, Secondly, please let me know in detail WHY you liked this Movie. I know you exist, I've seen the reviews and comments, I want to know genuinely because to me this Movie was holistically bad, I went in with my heels set to enjoy and be the contrarian who likes it and I was swept skywards by a deluge of shit.
This film ends as it begins but with 2 hours of your life lost and a legion of your braincells lost.
Thanks for reading.
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Movie review: “Joker: Folie à Deux” (2024)
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Joker: Folie à Deux Review
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Did you see Joker 2 yet? What did you think (without giving away spoilers, of course)?
Hi, anon. Yeah, I saw it today and, without giving away any spoilers, I just wanna say I’m glad there won’t be a part 3. These are just a few fresh thoughts that won’t leave after watching (but honestly I should’ve live-blogged it).
Whereas Joker (2019) felt breathtaking with its soundtrack, cinematography and Joaquin Phoenix’s brilliant acting, the sequel felt like a cheap fan-made parody (some are waaaay better btw and The Joker Blogs is a masterpiece in comparison lol) of the first movie and it killed the movie for me. I had deliberately decided to avoid tumblr and instagram before watching Folie Á Deux, because the more trailers and promos I saw the less I got excited for the movie. And, guess what, that didn’t save the movie for me either.
Someone has said that if you are a Joker fan, this movie just isn’t for you. And boy aren’t they wrong. With each tedious minute of the boring and endless trial sequence, I was sitting and thinking how differently the real Joker would act and react (I’ve no idea why they would have taken The Devil’s Advocate comic book as a reference?).
The movie genre wasn’t an issue for me, it was everything else that ruined the movie. But, without any spoilers, the ending was both fitting and yet pathetic because I felt like both Joaquin and Todd were so done with this and the second movie has only proven that.
Lady Gaga, as talented and creative as we know, love and admire her, has failed to embrace the role of Harley Quinn for me. I know, I know, it’s Elseworlds and there are a bunch of comic books where she is a bit different from her OG version, but in every scene I kept seeing Lady Gaga who was trying to sing badly and almost out of tune… but that turned out to be not enough.
There are three scenes in the movie, that I’ll be referring to as THE SCENES™️, or Scene #1, #2 and #3.
The first one is between Arthur and Lee, and I’ve never seen anything more cringeworthy in my life lol. The trailer was deceptive and that scene was actually horrible. Thanks God for FF dot net and AO3 because the fans do get it, and the creators of FAD, sadly, don’t. I really was expecting the same scene would be coming between Lee and Joker, as a compare and contrast or something, but it never did? :D And that was reaaalllyyyyy disappointing. I mean, really.
The second scene with Arthur and the guards was brutal, awful, but believable (I actually thought they were gonna cut his face? But then I was like oh OH). Too bad it’s gonna be turned into a meme real soon real fast. Because we live in the society.
The third and final scene felt like a relief to me? I was thankful it was over, honestly. But then (I might be wrong) I started thinking about the parallel™️ with that psycho inmate and Harley doing the same thing to Joker/Arthur and the thought that Arthur imagined her (AGAIN) is still giving me a headache asdfghjk.
So, what did Gaga say in the movie? “Let’s give the people what they want?” If only… 😩
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I just watched Joker Folie à deux and I ended up crying because if only people had treated him nicely, if only he wasn't abused, he wouldn't have brutally murdered six people. Monsters aren't born, they're made.
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Joker 2 - Folie à deux
What if he was one of us...?
First, I would like to say right out that I found Folie à deux excellent, even better than the first Joker film. Joaquin Phoenix is amazing, and Lady Gaga kept herself back a little this time (in House of Gucci she was too central in my opinion, since she wasn’t the protagonist).
The music may perhaps irritate those who don’t like musicals, but the songs are all good, and moreover the story is so awful at times that the songs are necessary to make it bearable. If Joker was already a disturbing social study, Folie à deux is partially set in a prison and the rest I leave to the imagination of those who have not yet seen it.
I wouldn’t define it as a real musical because none of the pieces are original and the only ones singing are the two protagonists; however it follows the logic of the musical, which is, that the protagonists sing and dance to express their emotions. In the first film we could already see that for Arthur, accustomed to the world of the stage, music is on the one hand a chance to express himself and on the other a means to escape reality.
~~~ SPOILER ALERT ~~~
I have heard and read a lot of criticism about this film. In my opinion the problem is that many fans simply have not yet understood that these films are inspired by the films and comics of the DC universe but are not really part of it. Anyone who thinks that Arthur Fleck is truly Batman’s Joker is, IMHO, naïve to say the least.
Todd Philip’s Joker does not belong to the DC universe, where supernatural things can happen; instead it poses the question, „What if the Joker was one of us?” (Instead of the villain we all know, who embraces anarchy and kills simply because he can?)
His answer is a disquieting portrayal of dysfunctional a society, where decency is so rare that the alleged villain becomes one of the few who still has a grasp on it; where followers embrace anarchy because they hate the world they live in; where a man can struggle all his life and be downtrodden anyway; where you can only live well if you’re rich, by either being a rich kid (Lee, Bruce) or have become rich abusing other people (Wayne, Murray).
In my opinion, Joker was so successful because many fans didn’t understand it: instead of getting the disturbing social criticism of the film they saw it either as a prequel that explains how the Joker became such, or at least the story of a „underdog“ who creates another personality that is not human but has a fascination all of its own and doesn’t let scruples get into his way.
Folie à deux goes in the opposite direction: Arthur is initially simply himself, then out of a misguided love he decides to embrace the image of the Joker again. But this doesn’t give him anything he wants (aside from the brief illusion of a romance with Lee), instead he sparks riots everywhere he goes just by his presence. Arthur finally decides to publicly declare that the Joker doesn’t really exist, that he is his invention. His fans feel betrayed, primarily Lee (Harley Quinn) who had encouraged him and made him believe she loved him. Lee had fallen in love with the Joker, she doesn’t have the slightest interest in Arthur.
To fully understand Folie à deux, you must be aware of the fact that here, Lee (Harley Quinn) is actually the villain, and that like in his first film, what Arthur wants most is to be finally seen. The irony is that Arthur is actually our moral compass throughout both films, the only person who still has a clue of what is right or wrong. Lee manages to cloud his judgement, but fortunately, only for a while. Not being really insane or violent, Arthur is horrified when he realizes that his presence is a bad influence on other people and therefore sheds the Joker persona, paying for all the consequences.
His lawyer Maryanne wanted to exonerate Arthur with the argument of his dissociative personality, caused primarily by the abuse he suffered as a child; but Maryanne was wrong thinking that it was the Joker who controlled Arthur, it is Arthur who can make the Joker appear and disappear at his choice. Lee knows what Arthur wants (attention), while Maryanne, who is portrayed as her opposite and as a motherly figure, knows what he needs (to be treated fairly for a change). That Arthur chooses Lee, who allegedly needs him, singing “For Once in My Life”, emphasizes the kind of person he is: Arthur is not truly evil, he wants to love, to give himself to somebody. Maryanne, for all her good intentions, could only give something to him but he had nothing to give back to her. This is also why Arthur kisses Maryanna goodbye.
The Joker from the DC universe killed who was or believed to be superior to him. In this second film Arthur does not kill anyone, and even in the first he killed „only“ to take revenge, not for the pure pleasure of doing it. We see that Arthur did not kill his neighbour and the psychologist he was talking to at the end of the first film, because they are both alive and appear in court. He also let his colleague Gary go by telling him „You didn’t do anything wrong, go away“, and in court Gary testifies against him but also tells him that he was the only one of their colleagues who didn’t mock him for his dwarfism.
I do not believe that the guy who stabs Arthur in the end is the „real Joker”. The Joker does not exist. The Joker is merely a sick fantasy who in this version of Gotham City some underdogs choose to embrace because they believe it gives them power but who truly only gives them the power to hurt who is weaker than them.
I understand it’s irritating to see such a familiar character in such a different context and interpretation, but that’s no reason to say the film isn’t good. The director admitted that he was annoyed about the reason for the success of the first film and that this second film, among other things, is intended to hold up a mirror to the audience in which they can see what their misinterpretations lead to. Arthur wanted to take revenge, to rebel, but he had not had the intention of inviting the world around him into anarchy. In these films Batman’s Joker doesn’t really exist, he’s just a sick fantasy.
Today’s cinema likes to humanize characters and their context instead of using the simple black / white scheme: to portray a character as a product of the world in which he lives, not just as a hateful person who chooses to do harm because he enjoys doing it. Arthur Fleck is a murderer, but also a victim; and despite everything, he still has a heart (he falls in love with Lee, wants to help her, and also feels affection for Maryanne) and moral principles (in the end he unmasks himself before causing further damage when he realizes that his presence incites people to violence).
Some argue that Folie à deux was unsuccessful because the first film catered mostly to the fantasy of incels; this might be true or not. If it is, the second film slaps into their faces making it clear that Arthur is, indeed an incel; and that going down the path of madness again is only an ulterior delusion that leads to much suffering for little joy.
It is not clear at the end whether Arthur is really dead; However, the fact that the prosecuting attorney was a certain Harvey Dent (Two-Face in the DC universe) seems to have left at least one possibility for a new film in this universe. Anyone who wants to see these films expecting a „cool“ character at the centre since in the world of black / white stories the male protagonists, be they heroes or villains, must first and foremost be this, will, as a matter of course, not like the realism of the story. To me, the films’ attention on its character’s humanness is what makes it great.
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JOKER: FOLIE Á DEUX (2024)
Starring Joaquin Phoenix, Lady Gaga, Brendan Gleeson, Catherine Keener, Zazie Beetz, Harry Lawtey, Steve Coogan, Ken Leung, Bill Smitrovich, Jacob Lofland, Leigh Gill, Sharon Washington, Gattlin Griffith, Mac Brandt, Tim Dillon, George Carroll, Mike Houston, John Lacy, Sam Wren Vincent, Troy Metcalf, Jimmy Walker Jr., G.L. McQueary and Brian Donahue.
Screenplay by Scott Silver & Todd Phillips.
Directed by Todd Phillips.
Distributed by Warner Bros. Pictures. 138 minutes. Rated R.
I know I’m kind of in the minority on this point, but I can’t even start to tell you how much I hated Todd Phillips’ 2019 movie Joker.
Five years later, here comes the follow-up, and it’s like Phillips said to himself: Hmm… how can we make this story even more annoying? I know! Let’s make it a musical. Better yet, let’s not even completely commit fully to the genre and make it sort of a stealth musical. The cast will start singing inappropriately, but mostly in a relatively subdued manner. None of the other trappings of the style – the dancing, the frenetic movement, the wild visuals, the boisterous chorus lines – need to be used. And we won’t even write our own music, we’ll just dust off some 60s and 70s pop songs and overly familiar standards from the Great American Songbook.
On the plus side, this time around, I don’t think I’ll be all that lonely in hating Joker: Folie à Deux. Because I really, really did hate it. If possible, this sequel is even more unbearable than the original. Imagine that.
I can’t imagine anyone actually liking Joker: Folie à Deux – then again, I felt that way about the first one, too, so maybe I’m not the best judge. Nonetheless, early buzz on the sequel seems pretty negative, so hopefully it’s not just me.
I take no joy in saying that. I actually was rather looking forward to the original Joker movie until I saw it. Because the truth is, Batman is a relatively dull superhero, but the one thing he always did have going for himself were the best villains. And a movie about arguably the most interesting of Batman’s villains could be amazing.
It’s just not this series.
At least the first Joker had something of a storyline. Granted, it was a pretty blatant rip-off of Martin Scorsese’s 1983 cult favorite The King of Comedy – they even cast that film’s star Robert De Niro in a major supporting role to make the connection even more obvious – but it was something of a plot.
Joker: Folie à Deux, on the other hand, is nearly two and a half hours (!!!) of Arthur Fleck (Joaquin Phoenix) being psychoanalyzed and mistreated in an insane asylum. (Like we didn’t know he was mentally deranged from the first time he appeared on screen in the first film.) Then it switches to being a courtroom drama about Arthur’s criminal trial for the mayhem he committed in the first film, although it plays out like an episode of Law & Order: Super Villains Unit.
While in the asylum, he meets his one true love, Lee Quinzel, who becomes Harley Quinn. (Of course, in the first Joker movie, Arthur imagined Zazie Beetz’ character – who reappears here as a witness for the prosecution – was his one true love, so Arthur isn’t too reliable in matters of the heart.) Lady Gaga is okay, if way too subdued, as the future Harley. She certainly won’t make anyone forget Margot Robbie’s powerhouse performances in the same role.
My biggest problem with Joker: Folie à Deux is the same as my problem with the first film. In both of these films, the Joker is played as a sad, pathetic, miserable loser who has life take a massive dump on him throughout the entire running time. Is this really supposed to be the guy who is going to be Batman’s greatest nemesis?
At least in the original film, Arthur eventually snapped and went on a violent killing spree, which was not a great, moral or relatable storyline, but at least he did something. In Folie à Deux, any violence or mayhem which he commits is mostly done in fantasy sequences, which just makes him seem even sadder and more impotent in real life.
After it was over, someone who apparently enjoyed the movie much more than I did tried to convince me that Folie à Deux is a movie that shows the depths a man will go to for love. However, his relationship with Lee is so dysfunctional, so toxic, so driven by mania, that it’s hard to root for a happy ever after for these two crazy kids. They – and the world – are probably better off with them separate. We know that is not the case from the comics, although the ending does put that in doubt.
As I said in the original review five years ago, Joker has been known to inspire many complicated emotional reactions. Pity has never really been one of them.
However, even more than I pitied the Joker in these two movies, I mostly pity myself because I have now wasted about four and a half hours of my life watching this sad saga.
Jay S. Jacobs
Copyright ©2024 PopEntertainment.com. All rights reserved. Posted: October 3, 2024.
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Film Review: "Joker: Folie à Deux" – A Dangerous Glorification of Infamy Disguised as Art
⭐ Rating: 0.5 out of 5. Musicals have always held a special place for me. The unique challenge of expressing emotion through both song and dance adds depth and complexity to any performance. So, when I heard that Joker: Folie à Deux would be a musical with Joaquin Phoenix as the singing Joker, I couldn’t help but feel skeptical. Was this some kind of joke? But as I began watching, my doubts…
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Joker: Folie à Deux (dir. Todd Phillips).
Much of the sequel is a satirical trial or referendum on the original film's impact and violence. Still, like the first Joker, this one's commentary feels rather toothless despite taking risks as a slow burn courtroom musical drama.
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“A word of caution. This is not a comedy club. You are not onstage.” Joker: Folie à Deux
For many, these years of the pandemic era stripped away things that offered balance and refilled wells – movies, theater, travel. Consequently, people lost themselves in work – aiming to ride the highs of Zoom-fueled interviews, podcasts, and meet ups – perhaps at times being advised by friends and colleagues that they were “too much” for this world, and at other times being told they were “not…
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Prepare for Halloween with 'Smile 2': A Chilling Sequel
Prepare for a Spooktacular Halloween with “Smile 2” As Halloween approaches, excitement fills the air, and the smiles are more abundant than ever this year. Alongside the classic carved pumpkins and their cheerful grins, two politicians are out and about, vying for votes as the 5th of November draws near. Meanwhile, the sinister smile of Terrifier 3‘s Art The Clown looms large, threatening to…
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Updated Joker 2 movie poster
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The Weekly Gravy #211
Joker: Folie à Deux (2024) – *** No one, it seems, likes Folie à Deux very much; as of this writing, it has a miserable 33% on Rotten Tomatoes (31% from viewers), a 45 on Metacritic (10 points worse than Megalopolis), and it earned a horrendous D from CinemaScore; Madame Web got a C+. And the box-office returns have followed suit; domestically, the film grossed a meager $37.7 million its first…
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