#its not an adaption its a retelling
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im kinda mad for leigh bardugo with how much the netflix shadow and bone adaption just,
put all her plots and characters in a bag and shook it up and went ah yes! an adaption! like so much is different and for what?? and no this is not about alina and mal being mixed race, that i like it adds something but
six of crows has been done extremely fucking dirty and im really sad about it, even if the casting is pretty good
why throw them in because you know its more popular, but not go for the plot which i think is one of the reasons its very popular
because leigh bardugo is an excellent writer and i think this so far and im only on ep 3 just, isnt doing her justice
its not looking great
#shadow and bone#six of crows#calling the darkling general kirigan just is so stupid it defeats the purpose of him having that title why make it a thing hes called as#like an insult instead of just his fucking title#dont get me even started on inej my poor girl who i love so dang much has been done so dirty#her actress is great i think she could be a bit more like her but the plot is just wrong#jesper is my babygirl tho hes fine and kaz it works#the other characters too are casted great its just not#its not an adaption its a retelling
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The greek myth inaccuracies in kaos are actually brilliant if you know how to have fun and can appreciate the impeccable rapunzelxmavis im lesbo meme vibes they have going on. It is about time someone brought the spirit of those 2010s videos where people would edit disney princesses from different films interacting and being friends to a greek mythology adaptation and I for one am glad it resulted in me watching old men have sex
#kaos#like why would prometheus and charon be interacting why would polyphemus be running a bar with the fates#idk but im loving it#Ive been known to beat adaptations to death over innacuracies but when theyre fun inaccuracies i dont care#like if its a direct retelling of greek myths and u randomly change a bunch of details and characters it woukld be like why#but if its a whole new thing with mythological elements its funnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn#like omg underworld medusa pop off
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I was curious to know, is there a specific adaptation of JTTW that you particularly enjoy? Whether its good or accurate isnt important but more like in your personal taste
AUGH going to be honest @seasonalsummers in that I don't feel like I can pick just one...there's so many excellent retellings! But I will take this opportunity to present some of my favorites.
So first up we have the 1986 Journey to the West tv series. It is in many ways very goofy and gaudy, but there's just as many reasons why it's considered one of the best retellings out there, from its genuine heart to the adherence to the og classic. And needless to say its Sun Wukong really set a standard for cheeky scheming monkey behavior. You can start watching it here:
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Next up is 2016s The Monkey King 2. While this film is one of those retellings that gives the White Bone Demon a lot more prominence than she has in the og classic--and definitely has its own silly stupid moments--it also stands as one of the very few retellings that directly addresses the paradox of Tang Sanzang's mission: that he's trying to get the sutras to help mortals achieve a state of peace all while abhorring violence, and yet its only because of the violence of his disciples, especially Sun Wukong, that he's able to right a number of wrongs or simply go from day to day uneaten. You can watch it here:
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And now it's time to give kudos to 2015's Monkey King: Hero Is Back. While this film is FAR from a faithful retelling and (usual refrain) has its own silliness, pretty simple plot, and gross-out humor, it also has so much heart and stands as a wonderful embodiment of the dad Wukong characterization. One also has to give it credit for its main child character, Jiang Liuer, being a genuinely charming kid who's wonder at the world and desire to do good drives the story forward in a sincerely lovely way. You can watch it here:
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More recently--and in a work that is at best only loosely following the plot of Xiyouji--is 2022's Lighting Up the Stars. This film follows the story of a Li Nezha coded little orphan girl Wu Xiaowen and a Sun Wukong coded funeral director Mo Sanmei as they go from a very tense relationship to a genuinely loving father-daughter relationship. While there are moments of this film that feel kind of overwrought, it's an honestly wonderful exploration of what goes into dealing with death and the importance of love in all its many forms during life. I also have a soft spot for Mo Sanmei, who from what I've seen is the very peak of explicitly shitty cringefail loser who then genuinely works hard to become a better person Sun Wukong out there. It can be watched here:
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Turning away from film and animation for a moment, I simply have to give proper kudos to Chaiko Tsai's comic The Monkey King. Between the gorgeous art, fun character designs, a good sense of how to translate many of the stories of Xiyouji into comic format, and a resolution to the Sun Wukong vs. Niu Mowang fight that I actually prefer above that in Journey to the West itself, this is definitely a comic worth going through! You can purchase it here for about $30.00
And last but certainly not least, one simply has to give due credit to 1964's Uproar in Heaven. It's an absolute gem of stylized Chinese animation, a work with the very rare allowance on the Monkey King getting to go full grandpa for tons upon tons of monkeys at Mt. Huaguoshan, and it's very faithful to the first half of the og classic with the difference that here Sun Wukong does his havoc in heaven and gets away with it. All around its a really fun work to watch and does have a lot of importance from both an animation and a historical perspective. You can watch it here:
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So those are my favorite adaptations of Journey to the West! It's but a fraction of the adaptations out there, but I hope other people found these as fun as I do.
#journey to the west#jttw#xiyouji#sun wukong#monkey king#jttw retelling#jttw adaptation#chaiko tsai monkey king#1964 uproar in heaven#uproar in heaven#monkey king hero is back#lighting up the stars#journey to the west 1986#aaaaaa#to this day one of my favorite things about jttw#is all the incredible adaptations and retellings its inspired#ask answered
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death note adaptations peaked in 2015 when these two came out months apart from each other.
#LIKE BOTH IN THE SAME YEAR??? everyone pack it up there's nothing left we're done here#jdrama and musical supremacy in this household#death note#death note drama#death note jdrama#death note musical#light yagami#l lawliet#this isn't exclusive to the japanese musical btw I've seen parts of the korean one and clips from the uk one#nothing has ever and will ever capture the heart of the story like these two I think#the musical is more loyal to the original with the songs delving deeper into the motives and feelings of the characters#especially with characters whose thoughts we didn't get much of like misa and soichiro and even sayu!!!#but the drama's effort to make significant changes while still keeping a firm hold on the core of the original deserves appreciation#the story begins at a different very differently yes but it finds its footing quickly as a unique retelling if you just keep watching#WHAT MORE CAN I SAY I JUST LOVE THESE ADAPTATIONS#what was in the water in 2015
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You know adaptations are fun and I especially love to see retellings of the same story but not in a boring beat for beat live action of animated Disney movie way but in "hey, here's this thing you love, and we've told the same story with a similar theme and message but we've also added commentary on that theme and messages of our own and random cool shit that wasn't there the first time" and that's so cool tbh
Or like i picked a side character or other background thing or setting from this thing you love and completely expanded and played with it until its a new thing entirely. Here's backstory and character development no one asked for and it's great
This actually does happen with older stories. You can make Black Sails and Treasure Planet because Treasure Island is Old. But you can't play in the sandbox if the story is newer. No that sandbox is for some corporation, probably disney, and no one else.
So anyway Fuck copyright law and let more people make more random adaptations of stories. Let's all retell the same stories over and over in fresh ways. We're all meant to be playing in the same sandbox here. Let the stories be free. It's what God intended.
#humans should be telling stories based on stories based on stories#thats how human stories#stop trapping it behind IP giants#let weird little indy directors make batman movies or whatever#have fun#I'm tired of copyright#its unnatural#disney#copyright#black sails#treasure planet#treasure island#percy jackson#remakes#retellings#stories#adaptations#film#movie#tv#literature#wicked#wizard of oz
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Which version of this do you prefer?
#oz#oz books#oz series#the wizard of oz#wizard of oz#return to oz#oz comics#oz marvel#marvel oz comics#dorothy gale#l frank baum#i know ive said ill include retellings/reimagings#but theres so many of those for the oz series that for the sake of not super clogging this poll#its just more straightforward adaptations#i might have those as their own thing at some point though#books#films#fantasy#dark fantasy#children's books#children's literature#comics#musical movies#musicals#marvel comics#polls#adaptation polls
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missing numbers was secretly a ploy to get really really into doing worldbuilding based on this extremely specific in-universe pseudo-meta horror based in the pokemon franchise. a lot of stuff we're cooking past gens 1+2 is original content based in the spirit of the classic trainerpastas based on those games... something something its all about the natural next step and the world of Pokemon is so fundamentally fucked. idkkkk smiles
#the adaptation-based characters are like the gateway drug#into our (the mod teams) obsession with digital existential cosmic horror themes and the narrative of loss of identity... etc etc#we're talking behind the scenes abt future stuff again and i just felt like rambling a bit#bc its like ummmm oopsies. yeah the original content :x#mn diary#at any rate id consider mn a creepypasta based *pokemon* au than a creepypasta au but its all horror at the end of the day#i just hope our followers enjoy the stuff that isnt just the popular blorbos...#not that i really care that much. in the end mn is a personal story we're doing for ourselves more than anyone and that means-#doing and including whatever we see fit.#its just been nice n really encouraging to have a small but active audience regardless#and i always appreciate that yall have been on board with all the crazier stuff we've dropped so far ^-^“#um. here's to the future of missing numbers! yayyy#god one more funny if i gave a shit about fandom popularity i would NOT be doing a full as adaptation and retelling-#of FUCKING ABANDON LONLINESS of all things brother ive seen NOBODY post about that lmao#was anyone else REALLY into that one as a kid or was that just me
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That one post of my mine predictably aged like fine wine. Never let somebody on comic twitter in the writer's room😭😭😭 Like imagine a 1 to 1 adaptation of literally any event?? -1b at the box office. "Who are these people???"
#Anywayyy I'm writing a retelling of DC and it is honestly so fun to imagine the characters in a new but familiar light#Like the biggest reason why I was never interested in writing fanfic before 2 months ago is because I never felt like those characters were#I felt... uncomfortable writing it not because i thought fanfic was bad or anything but because I felt it was weird to write for example#“XYZ DID THIS AND DID THAT AND DID THIS” like maybe he did?? I wouldn't know I don't know him like his creator!!!#But comic characters feel like more flexible due to the many interpretations over the years but firm enough where I can decide how to take#Certain traits and minimize them or expand on them#Also 1 to 1 adaptations suck balls to write. I'm not sure if that's universal but the whole fun of writing is coming up with new ideas#Writing a straight adaptation would be kind of writing a translation into a new medium. Which isn't bad. Novelization are literally those#But a common sentiment among writers I've seen is that Novelizations aren't that fun either unless you get to experiment either#Adapting comics into a new format and retelling them is kind of hell because you have all these intersecting plotlines and insane events#That's just tangled up in a story with a timeline that literally makes its contradictions into plot lines. But it's FUN coming up with ways#To condense a character's origin and sort of rewire it into the story you want to tell. Because yeah I think a lot of people miss is#that at end of the day#you tell stories about people and their struggles. You need to find a way to fit those moments of joy sadness love.#Like a movie about Jason Todd being RH will never be emotional as Jason Todd dying because you'll have less time to feel the love and pain#that Bruce felt for him. Like sure#flashbacks and exposition but that can only go so far. At the end of the day#It will always be about RH vs Batman. That's what people came to see. But that's not all Jason is. He was Robin before he was RH. A 1 to 1#Adaptation will never translate that to screen. Plus you (sadly) have shared universes now and a movie can only jump around in time so much#For example in my fic if I wanted to add Tim and faithful to his source material I would need to add so MUCH about Jason death#About like Bruce grieving without skipping all over that and missing the human element. It would severely mess up pacing.#I don't know i love how adaptations can make you see the characters in a new light or elevate the source material#Iwtv my beloved doesn't adapt the books exactly but reimagined in it a way that I like much more#Anyway this proves my point about comic fans being weirdly childish and omfg I hate to use this term...anti intellectual 😮💨😮💨😮💨#Everyone who writes or yknow reads should like understand this on a fundamental level. One to one adaptations are safe but boring.#Like the Psycho remake was bad not because it made bad changes but it barely made any changes.#Anyway watch amc iwtv to understand good adaptations better than your average comic stan on twtter#Not a rant I just love discussing adaptations#Long tags
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i was just wondering how they adapted the huntsman plot line in the lunar chronicles and then i turned the page and actually screamed in real life
#crunchyposts#tlc#reading commentary#NO FUCKING WAYYYYYYYYYY#I FORGOT ABOUT THIS PLOT LINE MARISSA MEYER OH MY GOD#theres always one aspect of the fairytale retelling that marissa meyer does so well in ever lunar chronicles book and oh my god.#holy shit. i am so shocked but i love this so much#if youre wondering what aspects of the retelling i liked in the other books#in cinder it's the shoe loss scene#in scarlet it's the 'oh my what big teeth you have' scene#in cress it's just what the tower was adapted into#i think those are all so cool its such a fun adaptation of the source material and this one is no exception it makes me stressed i adore it#i refer to it as the original fairytales' scenes in case any followers i have wanted to read the series
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Sometimes I wish Watership Down fandom were bigger, but at the same time I'm grateful that it's relatively small because that means we're a calmer community where we can settle and voice our opinions on various topics in a civilized manner. Like normal people, wow.
#Sometimes mourn a little believing I come too late to the party...#and outside of the book its sequel and the adaptations that are its retelling there isn't much either I suppose.#But that's the way things are#and in some way im gratefull for that#watership down
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Not to immediately alienate the majority of the tumblr arthuriana community but it is soooo weird to me how most people talk about it on here. Like it’s a franchise, and not a literary tradition. For a website that loves analysis and web weaving and motifs there’s always surprisingly little of that going on in any of the arthuriana tags. Instead it’s all just like. “Which knight is your blorbo.”
And that’s not to say we shouldn’t be connecting to those characters, bc after all, they’re how we’re able to experience the story in the first place. But it is strange to act like it’s some sort of marvel universe of knights, or like any of said knights have ever had one, singular pan-characterization. “Well MY favorite is Sir Skrunckleunklepuss” girl that’s 50 different people! That’s an archetype!
And then those people watch or read some specific modern adaptation and get all pissed because “that’s not MY Sir Skrunckleunklepuss!” Ok, well, your Sir Skrunckleunklepuss is somebody that literally only exists inside your own head. You gotta let it go
#it was sooo insufferable when the green knight came out actually#there’s legitimate criticisms of that movie but so much of it was instead just ‘that’s not MY Gawain’#like ok I’m taking Gawain away. I’m putting Gawain up on the shelf#until you can actually figure out how to engage with the story on its own terms#‘how dare arthuriana change and adapt itself to the contemporary culture’ c’mon now. c’mon.#it’s just so obvious that a film that invested in the landscape of its own story was not made in bad faith#it’s not king arthur blockbuster retelling number 56. it was a legitimate attempt to engage with the material#and you don’t have to like the end result of that but just saying ‘they didn’t adapt it right’ is soooo!!!!#anyway. this isn’t even rlly about that movie at all I’m just 😩
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the further into trimax i get the more stampede just falls... totally flat for me lol. tristamps placement of events is just odd and makes the characters come off entirely different and it does a huge disservice to the story overall. it focuses too much on all the wrong parts of the characters while leaving out important aspects that the whole story is built on.
eurgh. idk. theres just so much about stampede that leaves much to be desired. i wish it wasnt so rushed feeling. i wish they were doing a proper trimax adaption rather than retelling. i wish it didnt shuffle around events. the claims that its "more like" trimax than the 90s anime are so far total BS. (both animes are inaccurate and only take pieces from the manga but the 98 anime is... more 1:1 actually)
I'm still working my way through trimax (5 volumes left) but i kinda dont care if stampede gets more or not ngl lol
(also dont try to like "convince me" that stampede is good or argue w/ me or whatever i do not care. i dont care! im saying my opinions on my blog its untagged and you can just mind your own damn business its as easy as clicking away try it sometime)
#i think sometimes good things dont need to be adapted into shittier versions of themselves#the manga is good. does it need to be butchered to hell and back? really?#the nonexistence of a new anime doesnt make the manga go away or anything so#maybe im just pessimistic but like. im pretty fucking tired of reboots and retellings and adaptions just make new shit. fuck.#(ik this isn't necessarily the studios fault its like. capitalism hell and higher ups denying new stories etc etc etc but. you get it)#rot posts#ok thats my bitching abt stamp for today now im gonna rp vash weird plant pussy and thrive
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I feel the need to clarify seeing some of the notes on my last post, but I don't think Stampede is a bad show and I really enjoy it. It's just not a perfect adaption and feels like Orange knows enough about the source material to have done better.
#selfpost#not tagging this but#idk if ill make a better post with my thoughts but i think its a solid retelling#its just not a true adaptation which the vocal majority wanted more#so that colors bias
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HALELLUJAH AMEN
Unpopular Iliad & Odyssey opinions that I have/need to be said
Iliad:
Hector/Hektor did nothing wrong
Achilles was (at least) sexually attracted to Men and women and we need to acknowledge this fact on both counts
Achilles is infuriating
Odyssey
Odysseus never cheated on his wife he was forced (which is SA) by Calypso and Crice
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk
#do what you want and like whatever#but the very bare minimum is to acknowledge the source material *and* distinguish it from its adaptations and retellings#the ill get back to this eventually tag#i have so many thoughts
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i was rewatching the half-blood prince the other day and, god, the decision to put in the caged bird imagery for draco was such a masterful one. having draco take the bird from its cage and use it to test the cabinet as an allegory for himself stuck in his current pointless situation AND THEN the bird dying due to his actions, symbolizing the blood he'll have on his hands and the loss of innocence and naiveté. it's simply chef's kiss.
#its crazy to think that none of this was portrayed in the books due to them being from harrys pov#i think this really shows what good movie adaptions can bring to the table#and how the differences in medium of two versions of a story need to be taken into account when retelling smth#draco malfoy#text post#hp#hbp#ALSO also in the movies when draco sees the dead bird theres muffled crying in the next scene#its so good
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so it’s been a while since ive been on winx tumblr but even scrolling through your page a little bit reminded me of how many random ideas i had about how i would’ve rewritten netwinx lmfao
anyway HI how are you
DUDE everyone knows how much i Hate netwinx but there were still so many missed opportunities and just better paths they could've taken like WHAT
i feel like the really cool things they could've done but Didn't really highlight just how much they didn't know or care about winx yknow? so many things!! that would genuinely make it mature and darker without taking away from The Winx Story but no !! they didn't focus on the fucking domino or fairy genocide. didn't even keep the One thing that made sky interesting and redeemable. sky and riven's "frenemyship" not making any fucking sense and just being Two Guy Fight. literally aisha's entire fucking character like what do you mean she's there from the beginning but NOT IMPORTANT FUCK YOU
#how could you remind me of that travesty#aldhglahdgl#god i hate netwinx it sucks so fucking bad#like i genuinely can't believe people actually liked it#even ignoring the horrible racism and Literally Every Other Kind Of Bigotry Ever#its just so fucking bad on so many levels man...#anyway yes im doing good 👍#alhdglkjahgd#im thinking about leon and luis kissing 👍#answered#also as much as the whole fairy vs witch thing can get annoying#i think a mature retelling/adaptation lends itself to focusing on that !!#they gave them everything to talk about literal bigotry in a fantasy setting and THEY DIDN'T
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