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People who think that AO3 should be censored in any shape or form donât get it they whatever content they donât want to see will not vanish.
Ao3 is literally the safest platform to read fics, because you can literally block everything that you find triggering or simply donât like.
When I first started reading fics at a vERY young age, the site I found to do it had NO tagging system. The only thing we could filter was the ship, and that because the authors would put it either in the title or the synopsis so we scrolled down what we didnât like (mind you, without attacking anyone because we didnât like the ship). While there was a rating system (not rated, 10yo, 12yo, 16yo and 18+, if Iâm not mistaken), there is a HUGE difference from a story tagged as 18 to a actually triggering story.
But you wouldnât know until you read it. We had no control whatsoever about what weâd find within those stories and that was it.
If we start censoring AO3 out of whatever content you donât like (because there wonât ever be a consensus over what can or cannot be there, yall be complaining about same age ships claiming their âsibling codedâ as if it means anything), then these stories will go somewhere else and we have no guarantee itâll be properly tagged and THEN unaware kids will get into this stories much easier.
The thing is my siblings in Christ: this content will always exist, because the internet is an ever growing black hole and there will always be a spot for fanfiction (yk, where there is a screen there is a way). You sound like those crazy people claiming video games cause violence. Just like video games, fanfiction donât affect real life. Thats it.
The triggering topics didnât start in fanfiction, they started in the real world, as real life problem that affect real life people, and if we start censoring them out of ao3⌠THEY WILL STILL BE A PROBLEM ON REAL WORD!!! They only exist on ao3 as a collateral effect.
You arenât doing ANYTHING. You are not helping ANYONE. But while no one is being harmed in fanfiction (because Iâm sorry to inform you, your favourite characters with whom you have a parasocial relationship to the point you cannot differentiate reality from fiction anymore) DONâT EXIST. You cannot harm someone who doesnât exist.
Besides, all these themes also exist in very well known published media. That some of yall pay for. That sometimes is in the actual original source a fic is based on⌠but OMG, prOteCt tHe KIdS there is a non-profit story about it now.
Curate your own experience online, donât consume things you donât like, block tags before you even start scrolling for a fic. Donât tell people how they can or cannot enjoy FICTION.
And for godâs sake: put that phone down a bit and talk to real people and live in the real world with real problems!!!!! Youâre frying your own brain at this point.
Donât like, donât read.
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this might be a strange take but as someone who was groomed and who had what i would call an "elitist" mindset towards it, zako really seemed like it was about that mentality. of knowing you were playing with fire but feeling like you were above it. and for that i was really attached to it for the 2 hours it was out. the more logical side of me KNOWS its more likely a play off mimukawa nice try but i would love to believe it was meant to cater to a different audience than loli-cons. what's your take on the fiction vs reality of it? do you think westerners are just overreacting
I think you're interpretation of the song is valid, and pretty interesting tbh! I had not thought about that at all, and it's a case for letting people interpret the song in their own way. Instead of kowtowing to the loudest, most offended people. I also think the fact the creators literally took down the song amid backlash is pretty strong evidence they didn't make a song "for lolicons". They obviously did not anticipate this reaction, Channel admitted to having reservations, and tried to make Yuuki somewhat older-looking in the video. Whether you think she does or not, is up for (good faith!) debate. I do think she does not look like the literal box art version of the character, but that's kind of beside the point.
there is no fiction vs. reality debate because there are no real human beings harmed in the making of this song. Like, full stop. The "well kaai yuuki has a child VA" shit doesnt hold water cuz that person is an adult now anyway, and there are plenty of other songs featuring her that go wayyyy beyond this one. Like it's just something people reached for out of convienence. Same for "it violates her TOS!" like no one gave a fuck about Kaai Yuuki's TOS before it became a convenient cudgel in this particular situation.
The thing is, no one can have conversations about stuff like this in good faith because you are immediately labeled some kind of monster for trying to have any kind of nuanced opinion. Any dissent from "this song/movie/book is irredeemably evil and your sick for defending it" is taken as proof that you are a pervert monster. It's such a clear example of people, willfully and gleefully, diving into reactionary thinking without a shred of thought.
When really, I do think having an actual conversation about lolicon causing you discomfort is totally normal, and it's a pretty reasonable response to this stuff! But people can't just say that, they have to burn the whole thing to the ground, in the name of "protecting kids" or whatever bullshit they come up with. I don't actually like a good portion of Miku art for the same reasons people didn't like Zako! There was art going around on twitter of Miku with a literal binkie in Her mouth like a baby, and that shit was kind of weird! But I just didn't engage with it, that's it. People whipped each other up about the "harms" of this song, when simply not liking or engaging with it at all would have been the normal thing to do.
Freak outs like this do not protect anybody from anything. My big hot take is that having a moral panic about literally anything has more potential for actual harm than whatever it is people are panicking over. You simply cannot make rational, thoughtful decisions that prioritize protecting people from abuse when you are in a panic, or listening to people who are in a panic. You just can't!! It's not how shit works!
I know I have other asks about this, but I'm kind of trying to answer here, definitively, and let the topic dissipate. I'm glad I got the video downloaded, and we'll see what they release to appease all the weirdos who freaked out about the song. People objected to both the video and the lyrics themselves, so I don't know how they're going to come out with a new version that isn't radically different than the original. We'll see.
#vocaloid#zako#hiiragi magnetite#I myself am getting annoyed at constantly litigating this song but i liked this ask and appreciated it
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So glad you liked the other Chloe submission, thanks for the informative and entertaining response and the kind words from the comrades!
As before no worries if not interested but I did have a couple more thoughts, though be it these one's likely relate very specifically to teen Chloe so may not be useful/interesting but still.
Oh quick aside:
Not sure how prevalent Sabrina is, but the fact we see her dad encourage her master servant dynamic with Chloe, because it fits his definition of being "Useful" to society and how... Low key unhinged Sabrina can get about her usefulness not being utilized or acknowledge (Like with Marinette) is very interesting. Her & Chloe finding each other in canon is just like two people with hilariously complimentary but deeply unhealthy ideas forming a circular relationship of mutual self destruction.
Anyway, an interesting thing to me is how while Chloe does replicate the abusive behaviors taught (Andre) or demonstrated (Audrey,, Gabriel & Emilie) to her, she had already softened them without any real moral or empathic guidance.
Andre: He explicitly taught her cheating, extortion & threats are moral goods, and she does use them to try and win at things. But she doesn't actually utilize them that often or with as much intensity.
& like her father she uses money/gifts to compensate for shitty behavior but unlike him does, ya know, do things with Sabrina & is invested in their relationship outside of Sabrina's use as a tool.
& while she did use Sabrina as a shield in Zombisu, she also protected her in Ladybug, so its at least mote mutual as I cannot envision Andre doing anything for Chloe that really risks him.
Audrey: She's been impersonating her mother for years in a bid to earn her love but it didn't work until someone else made Audrey decide it was worthwhile & even then didn't seem to amount to much.
So while like Audrey she is antagonistic, haughty and rude, Chloe did actually demonstrate the ability to feel guilt (Zombisu but others too) & when Akumatized in the early series was not terribly murderous.
Compare that to Audrey who happily mulches her husband and daughter despite AKuma usually avoiding hurting their loved one's outside of indirect harm done by their warped attempts to protect.
Gabriel & Emilie: She clearly fucking hates that Adrien is making friends with people she hates and who hate her and is possessive of the relationship.
Yet until everything goes to hell, she doesn't really do much to try and stop him or undermine said relationships either. That is to say, she's already far less possessive & controlling than Emilie of Gabriel are.
Conclusion: So yeah while definitely not good, she had seemingly without much if any guidance, already made the abusive traits she picked up less toxic than those demonstrated by the adults around her.
Note: Also I always feel compelled to note this, but it is low key creepy Andre has been rewarding Chloe for impersonating his wife.
Like even if he's just instinctively recreating the dynamic he had with Audrey; not sure on that as they do seem to argue a lot.
Or is just using Chloe as an emotional crutch/ego-soothing proxy for Audrey's approval... Its still deeply messed up & unhealthy.
you're so smart @clemnoir was right you deserve sloppy head
I love thinking about child development when it comes to fictional characters, it's so fun...Also i don't care how much the show tries i will never have empathy for andre i hope he explodes into a fine mist
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Base Yandere Kaname Kuran Headcanons: Petty and Possessive Vampire (Vampire Knight)
[Hello, My Sexy Muffins! I am here with a new chapter, and this one is with Kaname Kuran, who is over 10,000 years old. In fact, he is even closer to 11,000 years old! So please enjoy this chapter here, My Sexy Muffins!]Â
(Disclaimer: Kaname Kuran is actually over 10,000 years old and is a vampire! He is an Adult!Â
Disclaimer: Kaname Kuran is pretty much a yandere in canon, as he is clearly obsessed with Yuki and has hurt people for putting Yuki in danger. I am just making him more obviously yandere in this! This is just for fun and not to be taken seriously at all! Simping for fictional yanderes and characters is fine! Just do not be illegal or gross about it! You know who you are! You Dirty, Flaky, Biscuits! Yanderes are not ideal partners to have in real life! Also, remember to separate fiction from reality and headcanon from canon! Thank you!Â
Disclaimer and Warning: there are Mentions of blood drinking and neck biting in this so you have been warned.Â
Disclaimer and Trigger Warning: The Vampire Knight Anime and Manga. Has sussy content in it with Family X Family Poo. Vampires marrying siblings to keep their bloodline pure, I do not support Family X Family stuff In Real Life!)Â
-Base Yandere Headcanons With Yandere Kaname Kuran X Gender Neutral Reader From Vampire Knight-Â
.Kaname Kuran is a Vampire, and he was the original Kuran!
.He is over 10,000 years old and is Yuki's ancestor. He became obsessed with Yuki and has done everything to be near her.
.He had de-aged himself and took the place of the baby Kaname the second (who was named after him), and he suppressed his memories. (Thank god for small miracles.)
.He thought that he had only wanted Yuki and that he would do anything for her.Â
.That was until he met you, a young adult who was part of the Day Class.
.He fell into even more obsessive love for you than he had for Yuk!Â
.He wanted you to be with him, and for this, he is the type of yandere that is very nice to you.Â
.That he is always kind and always there for you.Â
.So sweet to you, and he makes sure that all the other vampires fall in line.Â
.You are his everything. To him, you are even better than Yuki, and he cannot stand to live in a world without you.Â
.This means that because he is a pureblood, he will at some point turn you into a vampire and have you drink his blood so you do not become an E Class. (Info: if you drink the blood of the pureblood vampire that turned you, you will NOT fall to E Class!) (More On This Later)Â
.He is a super fucking petty and jealous yandere though he does not show that petty nature in actions most of the time.Â
.Instead, he is the type to make petty jabs and digs at people he does not like and really offend them.Â
.He is really petty with rivals as well, but if you are close to his rivals, he is not the one who will outright kill them.Â
.Not unless he has to, and he does not kill them outright because he does not want to lose you, his Darling.Â
.He knows how much these people mean to you if you are close to them, and for that, he cannot take them away unless they are truly a threat to you or his love for you.Â
.If they are that much of a threat, he will kill them with zero hesitation.Â
.They did not deserve to live if they were going to put you into harm's way, and they also did not deserve to live if they were going to truly try and take you away from him.Â
.He is an EXTREMELY POSSESSIVE As shit vampire and yandere, that is for sure.Â
.He is beyond words, possessive, and does not share you at all as if you were meant to be his.Â
.You are also, other than Yuki, the only thing he cares about. So he was not going to let anyone take you from him, and he was not going to let you leave him.Â
.If anyone were to put you into harms way, well, they would be as good as dead. It did not matter if they were a vampire, a hunter, or a human.Â
.Anyone who puts your life at risk does not deserve to live, and he does not even care if you or Yuki begs for their life.Â
.Putting you, the love of his VERY Long life at risk was unforgivable.Â
.He would also not tolerate anyone drinking your blood.Â
.He personally punishes vampires if they try and drink your blood.Â
.But it is not just a slap they will get away with.Â
.No, as he is truly yandere for you, he would not stand for your blood to be drank by anyone else but him.Â
.You were his from the moment he laid his eyes on you, and he refused to share you with anyone else.Â
.It does not matter what you say; he will make you love him one way or another.Â
.Even if he has to manipulate your memories and gaslight you into thinking you always loved him.Â
.He knows that is not fair to you, but he would do it, as he is a very, very, VERY Manipulative yandere, and he does not care what he has to do to make you love
.Do not forget the fact that he is also a very controlling yandere. Since he was the first Kuran that means he has been around as a pureblood for at least 10,000 years.Â
.He probably turned a lot of humans into vampires during the dark times when vampires fought openly against Vampire Hunters and other humans.Â
.So he was very used to having control over humans and vampires alike. So, of course, he would want that control over you as well.Â
.Being able to have you by his side at all times and to love you as he wants to.Â
.He could easily make this happen as he is a pureblood, and you are just a human.Â
.He could have you in a snap of his fingers, and he could keep you by his side for another 10,000 years or more!Â
.He, of course, like I said, is a jealous yandere.Â
.For example, if another vampire was to bite you and drink your blood, he would say something like, "That vampire bit and drank from a person that was not theirs."
.Because that is right, Kaname Kuran sees you as property. You were a human, but more important than that, you were his human. '
.Your blood, life, and love all belong to Kaname, and no one had a right to have you but him.Â
.When he finally does confess his love to you, he is expecting you to accept his love.Â
.If you do accept his love, he will embrace you in a kiss and slip a ring on your finger, this telling the world you are his.Â
.Also, after you two marry, he will turn you into a vampire.Â
.But if you do not accept his love, his eyes will turn blood red and he will turn you into a vampire.Â
.Biting your neck and having you go through an extremely painful process of quickly being turned into a vampire.Â
.Then he will force you to drink his blood. Making sure you never fall to an E Class and now you belonged to him, and he would never ever let you go.Â
.Either way, you will be by his side for all eternity.Â
[YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Another chapter is done! I hope that you all enjoyed this chapter here, and please stay sexy, all of my sexy muffins!]Â
#yandere#yandere headcanons#yandere kaname#yandere kaname kuran#yandere vampire knight#vampire knight#headcanons#kaname vampire knight#vampire knight kaname#kaname kuran vampire knight#vampire knight kaname kuran#kaname kuran#kaname#kaname x reader#kaname kuran x reader#reader#gender neutral reader
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Hi, it's me again. How are you? I hope your day is great đ I am back to ask another request đ¤đ
Sorry if I ask too much this week đââď¸
Anyway, this time is about ror Poseidon (wanted to do Beel, but I am scared you already had enough with many Beel story đ¤Łđ¤Ł).
It was isekai-ed reader (kinda or sort off) like the reader is a witch and had read RoR, her favorite is Beelzebub. She hope she can went to RoR universe at least wanted to hug her bias once. But what she get is... she got asthraled (forgot the word. It was like your soul or ghost someshort of spiritual come to another place but you are kinda invisible and cannot be harmed since you are ghost and all.) instead you fall down to Poseidon lap.
Ror Poseidon of course angered and threw trident at you, only for it to just flew through you and you are unharmed. Unfortunately for both of you, you seems stuck with him because you try to get away or him get away it always end with you being dragged by force to him. He is very annoyed by not only because you are human but also because you insistent on wanting to meet Beelzebub. You both banter daily and all.
He grow fond of you, and deep down scared if you will suddenly move back or meet Beelzebub as he know your love for the flies (lowkey he though you are in love with the devil and not love him as a fans). And the day came where Poseidon cross with Beelzebub and he find himself so jealous at how you fawning over Beelzebub resulted in his very first argument with you and you huff and the reader having enough just kiss him... only to find herself go through him. Come the fluffy live between you two. The reader love teasing Poseidon who act as if he is not affected on outside but when it was only two of them, he is a big cuddler and softy.
Can you please made headcannon and story about it? It was up to you if it going to be after or before Ragnarok. Thank you so much. Have nice days and wonderful days đâ¤â¤â¤
Hi hunđ thank you for this, it's so cute đ seeing a jelly Poseidon is actually funny to think abt ngl
Poseidon mini story+mini headcanons
Poseidon Ă isekai-ed!witch!reader
You find yourself scrolling through your phone, reading the newest chapters of record of Ragnarok, your all time favourite manga. Or maybe just something you read to pass the time, whatever. You fawned and giggled over your favourite character, specifically, Beelzebub. Poor baby, you wanted to give him a hug and kiss his face all over, since he didn't deserve any of this.
You so wanted to go there, but that was impossible. Your worlds were completely different, and he was fictional. He wasn't real. Or so you thought.
When you went to bed that night, your final thoughts being your bias, you suddenly open your eyes again, this time, the surroundings were different. It was all so colorful, like you were being sucked into a portal that led to someplace else.
"is this a dream?" You mumbled, before suddenly, you dropped, letting out a little squeak, looking up. Then...you saw the face of an angered god, who was just as surprised as you. But more pissed tho.
You landed on the lap of the tyrant of the sea, Poseidon. Great, just your luck. What the hell and how the hell did you end up on his lap? You couldn't even process when he took his trident.
You floated away, letting out little panicked sounds, as he got up, throwing it at you, only for it to pas through you, as you looked at him wide eyed. "Mortal, who do you think you are to commit such an act towards a god?"
When he heard your explanation, he let out a "tch" deciding to stop, before ordering you to leave, which you gladly did so. Well, that didn't go so well for you. With a magnetic force, your body was brought back to Poseidon, who looked at you like you just called him a bitch and slapped him in the face.
"I told you to leave."
"if you can see, I am struggling to!"
You recall reading a book about things like these, and you then start to connect the dots, coming to a conclusion that your soul had been transported to a completely different world, while your physical body was back in the other.
You and Poseidon tried to part ways, but no matter what you did, you kept being forced back to him. As mucha s he wanted to believe that you were faking it, you really looked like your were upset and struggling badly. So now he was just stuck with you.
At first, he found you annoying, the way you'd just float around while he walked, his movements always being watched by the little ghost on his ass, man this was a pain. You were a pathetic human, and your whines to meet Beelzebub were so irritating. But all that was passed him. It slowly came to him that he grew fond of you, he found himself entertained by watching you float around stupidly, and just be on his back all day, begging him to go near an ice cream truck so you could eat something tasty.
But when those thoughts came over him, another thought presented itself. What if you broke free from him, and set out to find Beelzebub? That, that really wasn't a nice thought. But the day came where by absolute luck, he walks passed Beelzebub, and he immediately looked behind him to find you squealing and fawning over the lord of the flies.
Poseidon had many fan girls, so why couldn't you have just been one of them? Before you could get near Beelzebub, Poseidon immediately distanced himself from the god, forcing you with him, making you pout and whine.
That was his last straw.
You were his now. So why do you look at other guys like that? It's obvious that you were sent to him for a reason. That resulted in an argument between the both of you. Before you finally had enough and decided to kiss him. You didn't know why, but your body acted on its own, what's worse is that you passed through him, as he stared at you with wide eyes, slowly calming himself. Before telling you to touch him.
You were confused, and still embarrassed, before you touched him, his body slowly turning spirit like, just like you. He had read about it before, and knew exactly what he was dealing with. And now that he knew the side effects, and everything else, he went over and kissed you, kissing you with so much passion. Knowing that nobody could see both of you. And from there, you both started a relationship.
The effects wore off, and he became a touchable and physical being once more. Looking at you, and then softly speaking. "You're mine now. Understand? That's an order."
Your heart beemed, you knew you loved beelzebub..but this exchange with Poseidon had completely altered your way of thinking.
He's not so bad after all...
________ random mini headcanons._____
- bro still does his best to make sure Beelzebub ain't anywhere close to you. Like literally he hates it when he even thinks about Beelzebub and you having an interaction. Nobody stealing his bae.
- he's cold and all, but when y'all are together, he's so needy.
- even if ur a ghost, you will either be floating round him, or be on his lap.
- sometimes, his brother's find him talking to himself, unaware that you were chatting with him. They fr thought he had an imaginary best friend.
- jealousy issues frfr
- when you told him about how you thought there could be a chance where you'll eventually be transported back to your worldâ mans was pissed. He would do so much to avoid that from happening, ordering servants to find anything about things like these, just to avoid it from happening.
- he couldn't afford to lose you. Not when you are one of the very, VERY few people he had took a liking to. So anyone that posed as a threat shall be demolished.
- yes I mean everyone.
- he hates how your eyes dart immediately to anyone who looked even the slightest bit of nice. Like he's literally over here wtf.
- I jus know that whenever you're hungry, he'd order his servant or smth to get him the most randomest shit like your favourite food, ice cream, or whatever you liked.
- people who serve it to him are dumbfounded when they see that Poseidon, THE Poseidon, is requesting...a dessert???
- only for him to stare at it with the most uninterested resting bitch face known to man. Until the food suddenly dissappears out of the blue without the god moving an inch. But they can't question it tho.
- and yo ass is just munching on the food, happily floating around and thanking him.
- his servants or anyone for that matter would be even more surprised when he started ordering them to buy stuff like clothes, jewelry, and all....
- was their god keeping a secret mistress??? But then again...they cannot ask. Or their heads would be served on a platter.
- he's a good boyfriend and hubby, y'all's marriage would come in so randomly after he just states in in a meeting with the other gods. Explaining everything and then dropping a "we're getting married in a few days"
- dang. Oh well, didn't matter. He was just happy that he was gonna seal the deal with you. All his, and he'd make sure you'd become immortal too, just like him.
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@17kurodaayumu this was fun!
#record of ragnarok#shuumatsu no valkyrie#ror poseidon#snv poseidon#record of ragnarok Ă reader#ror Ă reader#shuumatsu no valkyrie Ă reader#snv Ă reader#snv poseidon Ă reader#poseidon snv#poseidon ror#record of Ragnarok poseidon#poseidon record of ragnarok#shuumatsu no valkyrie poseidon#poseidon shuumatsu no valkyrie#shuumatsu no valkyrie headcanons#record of ragnarok headcanons#record of Ragnarok Beelzebub#ror poseidon headcanons#ror poseidon Ă reader#poseidon ror Ă reader#poseidon#beelzebub Ă reader#Beelzebub snv#ror beelzebub#Beelzebub ror#Beelzebub shuumatsu no Valkyrie#beelzebub record of ragnarok
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Fandom Problem #7410:
Those people are playing with fictional dollies in a corner of the internet where blocking and ignoring has long been a thing. If you're in a position where seeing a pair of fictional drawings kissing will give you psychic damage AND you can't ignore it after rolling your eyes or making an "ew" face (something people often but don't expand on because why bother?), maybe that's your problem, not other peoples', and you should avoid those tags etc, like the rest of us. It's also very telling that people in certain fandoms are totally okay with certain kinds of abusive ships, but simply go after people writing the "wrong" kinds of abusive ship, but as soon as any other kinds of ships are present, they will flip out. They'll yell at someone for shipping the Lannisters, while concurrently reposting fanart of Will bleeding to death where Hannibal, who has a knife in his pocket suggesting he did the deed, is holding him adoringly. Drawing gore is somehow fine, but a ship where the characters are eighteen and nineteen is the devil's spawn, even though both in real life are bad, and on paper, neither character is being harmed. They are concepts, dollies, not real people.
Like, "bad ship" has no meaning - it's become a stupid matter of "my fictional thing is fine, yours crosses the line, even though technically, it's just as bad, or not bad at all" because... It's all. Bloody. Fiction. Yet nobody's going to bat an eyelash if someone watches the Saw movies, or if someone is a horror aficionado and loves horror movies in general, but so many people, especially younger kids, have issues with sexual content in particular. It's just a rebrand of Christian puritanism and moral paranoia. Everything and everyone is a pedo to them. They look at new media through the lens of "I must ensure this show, person, etc isn't a pedo". Yeah, there are creepy people on the internet, some people get off on certain stuff. It doesn't mean everyone who draws an age gap ship is a creep - just like how everyone who likes gore isn't a murderer, even though there are, indeed, people who get off on murder. There are kinks for literally everything. I mean, there's an entire website devoted to celebrity feet for Christ's sakes. But for some reason, nobody ever looks at fictional depictions of non-sexual abuse (or even anything else), and wonders if someone is getting off on that. But a lot of people still are. Nothing is sacred.
If someone is posting graphic content of something in a tag, they should be tagging it. With scenarios like that, MAYBE (emphatically) you could make a case for it being "harmful". But even then, this is the internet. Fandom spaces are not like Club Penguin, they do not have a responsibility to assume the burden of parenting or making someone's individual choices for them or clearing out as soon as a minor is in the space, and there's an inherent knowledge that we all will, at some point, run into things that gross us out because fandom spaces are a melting pot of different ideas.
And you have a right to be grossed out by a lot of stuff. There's a lot of disturbing, weird, icky shit out there. But it's not about harassing the people who make it, who have shown no signs of actually being a bad person. It's about putting the onus on yourself, like an adult, to avoid the content. There's no use in self-harming by seeking stuff out, going into certain tags, etc when there's a high chance you'll see something that squicks you. Because at the end of the day, you are responsible for your own content consumption and browsing, and you are responsible for understanding the risks of being in certain spaces. If someone is unable to understand this, and cannot exercise self-control, they shouldn't be in those spaces, possibly online at all.
Signed, a very, very bone-tired fandomgoer of 40+ years.
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Genuine question as to why you feel so passionate about being pro-jedi? I definitely wouldn't say I'm anti-jedi, but I think there are some decent criticisms that can be made about them. But overall I'm just interested to understand the dedication to being pro-jedi, cause it is a fictional organisation at the end of the day. Isn't it more fulfilling to look at them from different perspectives so we can get the most out of the story as possible?
Before I answer, I'm going to ask you a question in turn, would you ever ask this question to someone who was anti-Jedi? Would you ever imply that they need to change their view on the Jedi because they're "not getting the most out of the story?"
Now, I'm going to preface this answer by saying that I'm not angry with you, I'm just very passionate about this topic---so don't take any of this personally. You seem like you're genuinely asking, and I appreciate that.
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Personally, for me, there aren't really any criticisms that can be made about the Jedi- (keep in mind, I primarily adhere to Lucas Canon, everything else is just an add on depending whether I like it or not). Everything that people criticize the Jedi for or accuse them of falls into one of three categories:
Not true- (the Jedi are a cult, the Jedi repress their emotions, the Jedi were mean to Anakin, etc.)
Done for a reason because the other option would be worse/it was their only real option in a bad situation- (the Jedi shouldn't have fought in the war, the Jedi should've defended Ahsoka, the Jedi are slavers because of the clones, etc.)
Or it's something that's an Eastern concept/practice but people refuse to look at it as such and instead project their Western viewpoint/religious trauma onto them- (literally the entire thing about attachment)
I've never seen any criticism of the Jedi that doesn't fall into one of these categories, so why should I be inclined to "hear people out" or "look at the Jedi from other perspectives" when there's...really nothing else to look at?
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Another thing to consider is that, while the Jedi are fictional characters, George Lucas based them heavily on very real religions and groups---particularly Jews and Buddhists.
So when people say things like- "the Jedi weren't allowed to care/love/have emotions because of Attachmentâ˘ď¸" -they're spreading harmful misinformation and basically saying that Buddhists can't love/care/have emotions because of their rule against attachment, since the philosophy of non-attachment is literally taken verbatim from Buddhism.
And when people usually pair the above rhetoric with- "-and that's why the Jedi deserved what they got/caused their own downfall" -it's...a very concerning mindset for people to perpetuate---especially when George Lucas based the genocide of the Jedi and the rise of the Empire off of the Holocaust and Nazi Germany.
When you strip away the fictional aspects of it, a lot of what people say about the Jedi is literally Nazi/antisemitic/Holocaust denial rhetoric. To take an example of something that has actually been said on one of my posts:
"The destruction of the Jedi Order was less a genocide and more of a religious conflict that the Jedi lost. The Jedi Order is a sect of the collective religious culture of 'Force Users,' and their destruction cannot really be considered genocide as the cultural group of 'Force Users' still exists albeit heavily restricted and controlled by the Sith during the Empire Era." - @/ironwoodarl01
And, as @zarohk pointed out:
Itâs depressing how so many âJedi criticalâ talking points are pretty much antisemitism and Holocaust denial/justification: The destruction of the Jedi Order was less a genocide and more of a religious conflict that the Jedi lost. "The Jedi Order religion of Judaism is a sect of the collective religious culture of 'Force Users Abrahamic faiths, and their destruction cannot really be considered genocide as the cultural group of Force Users Abrahamic faiths still existsâŚ" Similar thinly-veiled antisemitism in the Star Wars fandom also frequently includes supersessionism, the Christian idea that during the (Roman) Republic era, the Jedi Jews had become corrupt and lost their way, and and so finally a divinely created person was sent to show them new path. This is why attempts to read Star Wars where Anakin is a Christ figure or correct where the Jedi have failed (ignoring the fact that he wrecked the lives of most people he was involved with, including himself, and the Darth Vader was never happy) are not just incorrect, but generally have a thick underlayer of antisemitism.
So, while Star Wars is fictional, it's important for people to analyze why they feel the way they do about the Jedi and be critical of the ways in which they talk about/criticize the Jedi---because, like it or not, the Jedi and their genocide are based on real people/things and so your reaction to them/what happened to them can be very telling.
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Finally, being critical of the good guys or trying to view everything through a morally grey lens doesn't make the story inherently more interesting, nor does it inherently add anything to the story---so I'm not "missing" anything.
If believing that no one can actually just be good, and everyone has to have some agenda, and "the good guys were the REAL bad guys all along" adds something to Star Wars for you...by all means, go ahead and believe what you want.
But my view of Star Wars isn't "lesser" or "missing something" just because I don't share that view and actually like the good guys and believe in what they taught/did.
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I'm passionate about being pro-Jedi because of everything I outlined above and because they were truly good people who tried their best to help the galaxy---they were brought down, not because of anything they did, but because of one man's selfish stupid actions.
There might've been a time when I was willing to hear people out when they criticized the Jedi---because hey! maybe I was wrong---but that time has long passed because nothing anyone has ever criticized the Jedi for has held up to scrutiny, and anti-Jedi people won't just keep the fuck off my page and leave me alone.
So, frankly, this is my blog and I'm allowed to be as passionate as I want to be---and I'm not gonna stop, or start viewing the Jedi as "wrong" or "bad" or whatever, just because you- (and other people, I'm sure) -think I'm missing something by being strictly pro-Jedi
#star wars#sw prequels#pro jedi#pro jedi order#pro jedi council#in defense of the jedi council#in defense of the jedi#jedi appreciation
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The problem with pro-shippers: NSFW child content
Silence is golden but that only pertains to certain cases. The subject of pro-ship vs anti-ship has been a huge manner of debate in fandoms, primarily A03 and A03's subreddit and tumblr community. If you admit to being anti-ship, you're suddenly exiled and considered a pariah to the community and a promoter of cancel culture.
"Let people enjoy things!" "It's not real, it's fictional!" "These characters and actors are our toys to play with" "Disregard all haters, they're the monsters"
Only goes so far in some subjects. There is a fine line drawn when the content involves CSEA that's not told with a negative connotation.
However, pro-shippers do not like being told the difference.
The difference between a negative narrative and a romanticizing narrative. (ie: we as readers and the author know that pedophilia and child pornography is bad. Versus: we as readers and the author enjoy fictional pornography when it involves children and we enjoy writing 10 year olds having sex with other 10 year olds or a 10 year old calling a 40 year old man "daddy" during NSFW acts).
That the characters being fictionalized completely disregards all notions that the author and readers enjoy reading about children in NSFW content. Because it's "fictional".
That if you like watching a cannibal on TV and the fact that you may enjoy a show about a cannibal, it doesn't make you a cannibal because it's fiction. This argument is used on the daily for pro-shippers.
4. Because no children are actually harmed. That may be, but the reader and author are still enjoying content that involves the images of children in NSFW scenarios.
The fact of the matter is that it doesn't matter if the children are fictionalized or not, but no pro-shipper is going to agree because the characters in themselves are considered "toys" they can play with. (Don't get me started on how wrong the term of "toy" sounds in regards to children, fictional or not.)
The true facts here are that the reader and author are still putting a child's face onto a character involved in NSFW content. That's all it is. Picturing a child's prepubescent body parts as a character and finding that attractive enough to write about in an NSFW fashion. Again, pro-ship will disagree and become hostile.
But why is NSFW fictional child pornography morally wrong when writing fictionalized incest pornography is not?
Because the fictionalized incest pornography does not involve actual siblings or family members. One may just like the characters together regardless of blood. It doesn't mean that the author or reader is attracted to their real life sibling or wishes to put two real life siblings together in NSFW scenarios like Liam and Chris Hemsworth and because child pornography is CSEA. A child cannot consent. Even fantasizing about a fictional child in rape scenarios is beyond levels of fucked up.
"But fictionalized incest isn't real so fictionalized child pornography isn't real"
The biggest difference is that the reader and writer aren't finding the real life prospect of incest attractive, but they are finding CSEA content an attractive scenario.
But god forbid you raise your voice against this, and you'll be crucified.
It. Doesn't. Matter. That. They're. Not. Real.
You are still attracted to the images of child characters.
But wait, no actual children were harmed?! "It's just an instrusive thought" "I can safely look at CSEA in a safe environment where I don't hurt anyone" No. Get help. Get therapy. Harm reduction is not thr same when it comes to non consenting minors and when it comes to a user getting off on the idea of children. Get help. There is no lesser evil here. These thoughts are not okay.
Come @ me. I'm not scared. Not as scared as some pro-shippers should be once their search history is discovered. (For the record, I pray you do not have this kind of content on your person. However if you truly believe CSEA is okay if no one is physically harmed by you then by all means, tell your therapist about it)
#end rant
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It's hard talking about the disrespect to Greek mythology and religion when every argument people brings to the table is "look at this original novel that is adapted into a movie that is turned into a tv show that didn't follow the original plot" as if the Greek culture is on par with fictional story instead of a tradition and heritage of real life people.
A media that is broadcast to the public and make accessible to everyone that erased the values and lesson of a cultural story still can do harm when it feeds misunderstanding and misinterpretion of the culture it originated from.
Greek people has the right to be upset when their culture keeps getting misrepresented, doesn't matter the good intentions behind it, why must it be at the expense of Greek culture?
You can create arts that is so beautiful and so praises by many, and years from now you could look back and see what an amazing experience and community you have created out of it. But at the same time you also continue feeding the distorted ideas and flawed understanding about a culture as a whole.
All because you took from a culture and want to tell your own story.
Retelling is telling back the story. Any addition or new ideas you bring is when there's part in the original story that is vague or open for interpretations. Even then, when you elaborate, you follows the already presented ideas that the original story already established.
If it so beloved to you and so meaningful to you, why couldn't you be faithful when adapting and retelling with the talents you have?
Shouldn't it be better if you created an original story inspired by it? If you feels that the values and standards are not to your taste, but you so loved the stories and could related to it, isn't it better to create original characters and settings with your own voice and narrative with the story inspiration as the backdrop?
At this point, what is greek mythology and lore to you? That makes you so passionate so inspired, that spark your imagination that encourage you to be creative but it is at the ruin of old age history that is meaningful for the Greek identity. Do you really appreciate the values and moral that you gained from the stories, or did you forget yourself along the way?
I couldn't have said it better! I agree to all that because that is exactly my sentiment as well! On one hand of course I am proud that Greek mythology contnues to inspire and people want to create stuff on them or that even now there are people who think the values of Greek Mythology are universal and they are!
But as you said it pains me to no limits when stories that were literally created from people based on their culture and religion to pass on messages are not only distorted beyond recognition but also to a degree where nowadays most people of Greek mythology liking spectrum know only how terrible villains some men are (in actual mythology they are complicated personas) and how weak women are (there are literlly figures in Greek mythology that are so strong personas that honestly I am shocked. See Helen for example how she is the most projected persona as a pretty face that does nothing when Helen literally taks back to Aphrodite, she is the only one who sees through Odysseus's disguise, she has knowledge of medicine and so much more for once) Mythology loses all its meaning, all its allegory and all its cultural spectrum because as you said people do not use it to retell the story, they use the word "retelling" as their excuse to just tell a story that fits them by using the popularity of greek mythology and yes as you said why cannot they say their original stories while using inspiration from Greek mythology?
Honestly I have nothing to add! You said it all dear Anon!
#katerinaaqu answers#greek mythology#tagamemnon#retellings#âretellingâ means âtell the story againâ it doesn't mean âmake it unrecognizableâ!#people still can critisize regardless of pure intentions#ancient greek myth#ancient greek myths#ancient greek culture#food for thought
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alr iâve had this simmering inside me for a while and i need to let it out.
hot take here, but stellaâs haters are wayy worse than her fans. like⌠what moral high ground are you trying to stand on here. itâs fiction.
look i donât even like stella. she sucks, and personally i want to know WHY she sucks, and the last post i made about her, i got multiple keyboard warriors in my comments yelling, it doesnât need justification! she can just suck! for once we donât have to think about why we hate a character! wanting depth for stella is pointless, she can never be redeemed! we have enough stella sympathizers! stop acting like her treatment of stolas is anything other than abuse! this canât be solved with a tragic backstory!
since when does knowing someoneâs reasons for being the way they are automatically make them less shitty? if they continue to do bad things, then their past doesnât justify them. but that doesnât fucking mean that we as viewers canât be curious about it. contemplating and discussing that shit is just part of the fun for a lot of fans.
and when i got those comments, i was. baffled. because that is so incredibly mild. if thatâs bad, then i dread to think of how people treat anyone who actually likes her. because GODDAMN do people act like that is a sin worse than actually committing those acts against a real human in real life.
does vivziepop have to add another line to the warning in the beginning of every episode?
âthe following cartoon contains graphic violence, strong language, sexual themes, flashing lights, as well as rampant demon horniness. nobody was hurt in the making of this show, because all characters are fictional, meaning they are not real. they cannot be hurt because they are not real. you should not attack real people over the actions of fictional people. so yes, itâs intended for mature audiences.â
i need you to read this part very carefully. itâs fine if you prefer simple antagonists. itâs fine that you want her to be easy to hate. i am not saying thereâs anything wrong with that. if thatâs what youâre hoping for, great! thatâs literally okay. itâs not what i personally prefer but that is not the point of this post.
iâm saying that tossing around words like ��sympathizing with abusersâ about fans who are literally talking about a collection of pixels on a screen⌠is fucked up. prioritizing the well-beings of stolas and octavia over those of your fellow hellaverse fans is abhorrent behavior. because.. once again⌠unlike your fellow fans, stolas and octavia are not real. that is an extreme overreaction and it is HARMING real people. stop that. for the love of god.
#and just for good measure. this applies to valentino haters too.#same wall of text. copy and paste#prioritizing angel dustâs well-being over valentinoâs VAâs well-being is a special kind of fucked up#helluva boss#hellaverse#stella goetia#vivziepop#stella#stolas goetia#stolas#octavia goetia#octavia#helluva octavia#helluva boss stolas#helluva stolas#helluva stella#helluva boss stella#helluva boss octavia#hazbin hotel#valentino#hazbin valentino#fandom discourse#discourse#fandom drama#helluva boss discourse
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"I don't support it in real life!"CW: talk of sexualizing minors, slight rant
Then why write about it? If for coping purposes, why post it online for others (especially actual predators) to see and consume? Then why portray those things in a positive light instead of condemning them?And you're seriously going to tell me that just because as an adult (1) you want to see a fictional minor (that mind you, is usually designed to resemble an actual child) depicted in sexual situations doesn't mean you don't share that same view concerning children in real life? You find fictional minors attractive but not real ones? Why does the line between finding someone who is (and usually also looks like) a child sexually attractive get drawn at whether the child is real or not? I'm not calling anyone pedophiles, but if the shoe fits...(1) No I am not talking about 18 y/os finding 17 y/os attractive. Use your brain. Creating content of underaged characters is still questionable regardless of age, however.
"Just mute/block instead of harassing others!"I have nearly 70k people blocked on twitter, and hundreds of words and tags muted, I softblock and mute people who post things I don't want to see. I still see certain things on my timeline, usually because1) It's posted in the main tags of something I'm interested in2) The post isn't even tagged at all3) If someone quote retweets from someone I've blocked, I still see the take on my timeline.
"Antis use the same rhetoric as exclusionists and TERFS!"What exactly does being against pedophilia have to do with trans (women) exclusionary radical feminism?And what does lgbtq discourse in general have to do with not wanting minors to be sexualized?
"Antis harass people!"Apparently, proshippers have never done this before! Not once has a grown adult stalked literal children for calling their ships gross!Not saying harassments ok at all, but let's not act like the poor proshippers are being oppressed here.Also, I promise you, someone saying "x is a proshipper, please block them if you don't want to see their content" is not harassment. Writing callout posts and videos on underaged "antis", however is most definitely harassment but y'all don't want to hear that. People have the right to know if they are platforming people who go against their personal beliefs and morals. Choosing to hide that from people who would otherwise not want to interact with you for the sake of not wanting to "lose friends" makes you a bad person, and you should feel bad.
replying under the cut bc this ask was long enough, and i don't wanna make ppl who follow us/see this have to scroll for eons
why do you think coping mechanisms have to stay private? if someone's coping mechanism was yoga, or working out, would you say they have to do that by themselves, in the confines of their own house, and they aren't allowed to talk to anyone else about it? i hope not, because that would be ridiculous (inb4 "yeah but yoga isn't harming anyone!", neither is fiction!).
the fact of the matter is, anyone can consume any type of content, and that shouldn't prevent people from making what they like. why not portray it in a positive light? what does it matter? any regular person knows that what they see in fiction should not necessarily be replicated in real life. i know better than to go out and kill someone just because billy loomis and stu macher do it.
furthermore, wouldn't you want actual pedophiles to use fiction rather than them going out and hurting real children? that's not how that works, but using your argument that they're one and the same, wouldn't that be better for everyone, and result in less people getting hurt, ergo fiction doesn't hurt anyone?
no, fictional characters are not meant to resemble actual children. that IS a crime. however, you cannot look at an anime child, or idk, kid ashley from TCOAAL, and tell me that looks like a REAL child. that's nonsense. and no, it does NOT mean i "share the same view concerning children in real life", because those characters aren't real, and i (can't believe i have to say this) am NOT attracted to real children. yes, you ARE calling me a pedophile, which is just categorically not true. it's not "questionable" because it's not REAL, which is necessary for someone to be diagnosed with pedophilia, which is a disorder, and not just some label you can put on people.
genuinely, if you are THAT sensitive to people having other opinions, or are sensitive to different kinds of art, maybe social media isn't the place for you to be. if the post isn't tagged, i agree, something should be done about that, but the fact is, WE DO tag our stuff. that has nothing to do with me (or chica), or even proshippers as a whole. you're doing the thing were you believe one rotten apple spoils the bunch.
when you post something online, you HAVE to understand that literally anyone can view it, and if your accounts aren't private, anyone can interact with it. that is the cost of posting online. if you can't handle that, log off.
i don't think i've ever compared being an anti to being a terf/exclus, BUT they do objectively share some of the same opinions as conservatives, and even nazis (which is NOT to say all antis are conservatives/nazis, but that you share some of the same ideals).
i can't speak much to that because i don't think i've ever made that argument, but it is a lil radfem-y when most of y'all go after specifically BL and yaoi. also terfs aren't only bigoted towards trans women, it's also trans men. idk why you said that.
yes, correct, anyone can harass anyone, but the fact of the matter is, 99% of the time proshippers get harassed, it's while we're in our own lanes, minding our own business, and y'all (much like you're doing right now) come into OUR spaces and call us pedophiles, and say we deserve to die, or that we should kill ourselves.
if you've been following this blog for the last week-ish, you'd have seen some prime examples of just that. doing nothing, talking to no one, and getting harassed. people saying i should be on watchpeopledie, saying i should be killed, that they hope i get cancer, or die in a car accident, or that my dad beats me to death. that i should "slit", cut to the bone, kill myself, hang myself. threatening to doxx me, find my address, have tried to grab my ip. the difference is, when proshippers are found to be doing this stuff, they're called out and reported, often by other proshippers, whereas antis, when they exhibit this behavior, they are encouraged. they're praised by their peers.
if all people did was say "x is a proshipper, block them", we wouldn't have an issue, but the fact is, a significant amount of y'all don't start with blocking. you start with slurs, nasty names, disgusting accusations, and downright deplorable behavior BEFORE you block us. if you block us. and when we block you, it's entirely possible you just create a new account to harass us from, or grab your friends to do it for you.
if platforming people who like different types of fiction than you is that big of a problem, that you feel the need to write callouts, make google docs, harass them, and threaten to doxx them, you need to get off the internet. stop interacting with people AT ALL. live in a bubble. because again, people you don't like are always going to exist on the internet, it's your duty to navigate that in the best way you can, WITHOUT hurting anyone.
people hide the fact they're proship because we don't want the harassment. that's sorta the crux of the issue? you're completely ignoring the COUNTLESS posts of people being harassed for simply existing and being proship. we shouldn't be made to feel bad for trying to protect ourselves and our peace, YOU should be made to feel bad for making others feel bad.
#my brain too small for ts *huff*#hope my ramblings make enough sense to y'all bc i got a headache#proship#proshippers please interact#profic#proship please interact#profiction#anti anti#pro ship#pro fic#đđ¸
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do you relate to any of your characters? which one(s) do you relate the most to?
It really depends on how you would define "relating" to someone. Do I feel seen, some kind of connection with the character? No, not nowadays. Do I understand where they're coming from? Sure. I try to avoid writing characters I don't understand at all, even if I consider them ideologically repulsive. Perhaps it's only because I predominantly feel fulfilled by my own self-recognition aside from a pervasive sense of not being understood, not feeling connection. It isn't a rare emotion, but clearly multiple people feeling Lonely in proximity to each other, all talking about it, doesn't take away the loneliness. It's kind of why we're dealing with it at a societal level, even though plenty of us are also saying that it's a thing. I don't relate to other people who feel the same emotions, even if I can acknowledge that we share circumstances. We are the same in the sense of the objects surrounding us, but not in the phenomenological sense as subjects to our experiences; similar objectively, but not subjectively. If real people cannot easily elicit a sense of relating, fictional characters surely aren't any more capable. Art is parasocial, a one-way mirror -- I can see the characters, but they can't see me; I can make someone feel understood through the art, but they still can't make me feel understood.
But in terms of understanding where they're coming from... maybe Drake. Xyr slow-moving, resigned disposition is one I can understand. Life wears on you and disappoints you; uniquely, Drake still cares deeply about the world, but simply doesn't have the energy to actualize that. The thematic core of the story with xem is feeling a "true self" pulling xem inward, away from reality, away from other people. No one can see that "true self" -- they're stuck interacting with, from Drake's perspective, a mediating puppet xe's forced to use. There is no way to abandon that physically impossible authentic self in order to make the connection with others, either. That's something that I relate to, which is why I made the character, but there are many elements I don't relate to. Jessie feels misunderstood as well... but she has a critical difference from Drake: she has no romantic partner. Her loneliness is broader than an inner neglect; it encompasses everyone around her as a bystander at best and a perpetrator at worst. There are literally 0 people in her life to represent "the rest of the world" as anything other than an amorphous entity motivated to harm her as something exterior to itself. She has a contempt for others and a habit to assume malice in others' actions, both self-sabotaging, that I can understand. Drake distinctly lacks those qualities. I don't have the energy, or the entitlement, or the unified personality, or the motivation to feel it so deeply, so consistently, and act on any of it, though. In truth, the emotions tend to evaporate as soon as I'm actually talking to another human being (whether you want to call that dissociation or not). She is emotionally immature, and self-absorbed -- literally justified by the story, informed she is the main character and everything was invented just for her. I don't personally relate to these qualities.
Outis has themes related to never being seen behind the art, but they are also emotionally immature, in my opinion, and too invested in other people's approval of them for me to truly relate to the voluntary alienation they feel. They're hidden behind their art because the art allows them to craft a more desirable persona for this approval, not because they literally have no other way to be seen. They also have an ignorance of the dissociation in their own mind, and in their relation through their art instead of through genuine interaction, that I really cannot relate to.
Basically, every character I make is tempered with idiosyncrasies to make them less relatable to myself. These three characters, who seem to have the same issues that I'd find relatable, don't really elicit a sort of catharsis or empathy from me. I hope that makes sense.
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Base Yandere Lord Muzan Kibutsuji Headcanons: Power And Control (Demon Slayer)
[Hello, My Sexy Muffins, and Bad Butt Biscuits! I am here with a new chapter! This one has The Original Version of Muzan as I did the Female/Genderbent Version of him! So now let's Do Muzan! I hope that you all enjoy this chapter!]Â
(Disclaimer: Muzan is not yandere in canon this is just for fun and not to be taken seriously at all! Simping for fictional and yandere characters is fine just do not be illegal or gross about it! You know who you are, you dirty flaky biscuits! Yanderes are not ideal partners to have in real life! Also, remember to separate fiction from reality and headcanon from canon! Thank you!)Â
-Base Yandere Headcanons With Lord Muzan Kibutsuji-Â
.He is a man that loves power and control and hates a lot of change. .He does like things when they do change in his benefit. .Because if you look at him, he wears more modern clothes, has a more modern chair, and a more modern car (For the time period of the show)
.He may say he does not like change, but he does like the benefits of the modern age he is in.Â
.Though the change he does not like it more the things to do with his demise, he has a fear of death.Â
.He had this fear of death since he was alive and was close to death, being the first demon was not enough for him.Â
.He has to conquer the sun as well.Â
.He was not a good husband, as he pushed his five wives to take their own lives. .He was not the best partner to have that was for sure as he had never felt love for anyone.  .That was until he met you, something about you consumed him.Â
.He did not like the control he did not have over it or how he felt.Â
.How his heart raced, how you were always on every single thought he had, how he longed to have you in his presence. .It goes on and on and he hated it with all his being and blamed you for the lack of control you made him have.Â
.Yes he would blame all these new and strange feelings on you, you must be some sort of magic user that has cast a spell on him and made him weak for a pathetic human like yourself. .That is what he thought, at least at first. .For at some point he could not stand being without you and you would become a prisoner in the infinity palace. .That is right, Lord Muzan is the type of yandere to capture you/kidnap you, and keep you in a gilded cage. .He finds himself to like your company and he likes the power he has on you. .That you are fully dependent on him for food, company, and well anything really. .Some days he forgets to feed you and other days he makes you beg.Â
.He can be a very mocking yandere and loves the power he has over you. .Though if you did try and hurt yourself or kill yourself to escape him, he would grab you by the throat, in a bloodthirsty enraged way. .He learns in this moment that you are something special to him, and he is not going to let you take the easy way out and leave him. .This moment that happens will actually have him treating you better, he is less cold to you, and remember to feed you more often.Â
.At this point he has learned that he cannot live without you, and he only would not have turned you into a demon yet because of the demon slayers. .Even if he gave you a lot of his blood, you would still not be strong enough to fight off Hashiras. .So he is not going to risk his prize being harmed or stolen from him.Â
.He still has the power and control over you, he just allows you more freedoms now. .Everyone now knows that you belong to him, so no one dares lay a hand on you, if they did well they would be slaughtered and made an example of. .He also finds himself considering something, that you would need the best of things, if you are going to belong to the Demon King, then you must look the part. .So he would spoil you, yes this is Muzan as a yandere for sure, once he accepts that he has a darling that is. .Him showering you with gifts, is a way of having his ownership over you.Â
.You are wearing the clothes, he thinks is nice. You have on the make-up that, he thinks you look good in, your hair is done in a way he loves. The list can go on and on.Â
.But of course, Muzan is a master manipulator, so you would not know any of this. .Muzan would have successfully tricked you into thinking that all of it is things you chose and things you liked. .And you are so deep into his mind games that you do not realize it was him pulling the strings.Â
.He is the type of yandere that would mold you because he is not the type of yandere that needs to change for his darling. .Why would he have to change, he is almost nearly perfect.Â
.All he has to do is conquer the sun, and make you his spouse! .That is all that he needs to do and then his life will be perfect. .On a bit of a more steamy note, he would have much desire to claim you in an intimate way over and over and over. .He will show you just a great lover, and future husband he can be. .If he did have "rivals" well let's be honest, it is laughable that they even consider themselves to be his rivals. .No, Demon Slayer, Human, or Demon (other than himself of course) was good enough for you. .So if someone claimed you to be theirs, they were simply erased from the world.Â
.He would not confess his love, instead, he is going to just one day declare that you are his and that you were his the day he kidnapped you, you just did not know it yet.Â
.You also would no longer be allowed to see family and friends, and if he deems it, he will be the only other person you ever see again. .So you might as well as give up and accept your fate, be a good little spouse for him, and warm his bed. .If you can do that you will get a treat, remember It does not matter if you love him right now, you will be immortal like him and then you both have all the time in the world...Â
.And Muzan he will have all the power and control over you for all this time and all the time to come. .You are his, you never had a choice.Â
[YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS another chapter done! I hope you all enjoyed and stay sexy, all of my sexy muffins!]Â
#yandere#yandere muzan#yandere muzan kibutsuji#yandere demon slayer#yandere headcanons#headcanons#demon slayer#demon slayer muzan#demon slayer muzan kibutsuji#muzan kibutsuji#muzan#muzan x reader#muzan kibutsuji x reader#reader#gender neutral reader
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got a new selfship community thing to be mad about every day i guess. whoopee
TW: DISCUSSIONS OF GROOMING UNDER THE CUT
"minors shipping with adult f/os is bad because the adult f/os are grooming the kids-" ohh brotherrr SHUT UPPP
as a victim of grooming myself, THESE FICTIONAL ADULTS ARE DOING NOTHING TO HURT US. BECAUSE THEY ARE FICTIONAL. we are smart enough to recognize that this kind of thing is harmful when it is REAL PEOPLE. but fictional adults aren't hurting us in any way because they PHYSICALLY CANNOT DO ANYTHING TO US. THEY ARE NOT REAL.
meanwhile adults shipping themselves with minors does nothing but broadcast to the world that you not only?? like kids in any way romantically?? but that you have the capacity to hurt real children!!
and dont play it off with "its fiction." brother we all know that if they were real, you'd be on the news. shut up.
additionally, we just age up our s/is most of the time so why the hell do you care?? aging yourself DOWN to ship with a character is actually gross as fuck
one more thing. the adult f/os stay as adults. they dont just magically age down. that is not how that works. but those minor f/os? WILL PROBABLY STAY AS MINORS. AND YOU WILL KEEP GROWING OLDER.
tldr stop using your fake care for kids as a guise for your weird shit okay?
#when the otto octavius side eye comes up on your feed you KNOW i'm pissed about something that doesn't matter#rye.txt#discourse#self ship community#self shipper#f/o#f/o community#fictional other#self ship#self shipping#selfshipper#self shipping community#selfshipping#selfship#selfship community#selfship rant#proship dni#ok to rb#<- i gotta put that on more of my posts LOL
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Something I really struggle with in did spaces is just how sensationalized introjects are.
Introjects are parts that take on identity traits or qualities of someone either fictional or factual. The most common type of introject is an abuser. I at one point was aware of one, I donât know if thatâs still the case. Fictional introjects come about when a child undergoes extreme trauma and the lines between the media theyâre consuming and the real world abuse get blurred.
Why do syscord and sysblr treat introjects like characters? You all will yell about how introjects arenât their sources while demanding borderline roleplay out of anyone you come across, whether youâre the introject or whether youâre interacting as a âfan.â
I havenât opened up about introjects because theyâre either based off of abusers or very indicative of my trauma, and I donât intend to do much here, but Iâll say this.
Itâs not painful to be an introject because you miss source or your friends or family.
Itâs painful to be an introject because you attribute traits that were in the media onto abusers of yours and feel crazy when thatâs the only way you know how to associate them.
I wasnât literally in the situations that Iâm based off of in my source (itâs a novel), but now I can only associate my abuser with systematic and intentional abuse, and not the accident that it actually was. I have such a hard time believing that what I experienced just happened to occur, and that it wasnât some insidious attempt to ruin me the second my abuser had the chance to.
Introjection is such a complex process that changes your outlook on absolutely everything. I cannot understand the desire to survive such an ordeal as trauma and abuse and to want something like an introject as a result.
These are not fictional character besties that live in your brain, or YouTubers who want wacky situations with you, these are traumatized parts that have embodied traits of characters you were so immersed in you couldnât tell the difference, or abusers who emulate the same traits that harmed you in the first place.
Do better system community
#dissociative identity disorder#mental health#did#dissociative system#did osdd#actually did#actually dissociative#trauma recovery#did system#adult did system#introject#fictive#factive#syscourse#system discourse#system community#system stuff#sysblr
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ACOTAR Fandom Rant
Trigger Warning- Discussions of sexual abuse.
I think some people forget that even if a book is in the fantasy genre, you cannot just say "it's fiction, so it doesn't matter" there still needs to be rules to the world. It cannot all be a free for all, there needs to be consistency. When you make a rule for the world, it needs to apply to everyone, your world needs to serve the story, not the other way around. Everything has to revolve around moving the plot forward, and part of this is how your society functions and treats certain experiences, including experiences like SA.
You can have books that stretch the boundaries of what is and what is not acceptable in your fantasy, but, it has to make sense within the world and you have to be consistent.
This goes for Rhysand, Nesta and Feyre. All of them were SAed by their captors of the time. Amarantha put Rhysand into a position where to avoid harm and gain even a little bit of autonomy he had to have sex with her. Rhysand put Feyre in a position where she was forced to do lewd acts for him and in front of people whilst (practically) naked, until she vomited. Cassian took advantage of Nesta being in a vulnerable position, knowing she had been using sex as a means to self-harm, to have borderline violent sex with her.
It's SA across the board, even though SJM cannot for the life of her admit that. Idk why she keeps writing about SA when she cannot at all, but she does. However, it's not right, and no one should be picking and choosing like she is within the series.
SJM is unable to create good world-building and handle these kinds of experiences with the delicacy and respect they deserve. And no one should be trying to do the same as she is, by attempting to say one character's SA was not valid when it was.
I'm not trying to comment on anyone in particular, but I wanted to comment on this idea as a whole. Because I think it does come down to people picking and choosing because of who their favourite characters are, which is fine and dandy, but the discussion is revolving around what actually happened in canon. And what happened in canon, is that Amarantha raped Rhysand for fifty years. Full-stop. There is no argument. Like there should be no argument for Feyre and for Nesta.
Amarantha had all the power over Rhysand. Like Rhysand had all the power over Feyre, and Cassian had all the power over Nesta.
In each situation, Rhysand, Feyre and Nesta had been forcibly removed from their homes, put in a place where they were locked up and emotionally and physically vulnerable, and all choice was stripped from them.
Amarantha had enslaved Rhysand. Rhysand had taken control of Feyre. Cassian was the equivalent of Nesta's prison guard.
Even though it is fiction. Fiction has the ability to explore these kinds of topics. They are very real, and have very real consequences.
Fiction can stretch boundaries, it can go well beyond what we consider morally right irl, but a good fictional writer will still implement rules and keep consistency with their writing.
There is no morality in fiction but there is a massive difference between a poorly written book and a really well-written book. And there is a difference between genuine discussion and commentary on media and invalidation of experiences, even when it comes to fictional characters, because as I mentioned above these are very very real situations and when it comes to big authors, what they write, can have a very real effect on people.
All this to say, Sarah.J.Maas is a horrible writer, she lacks any kind of consistency and cannot keep up with her own rules. But instead of picking and choosing, and invalidating one experience whilst upholding another, we can look at her writing as an example of how not to handle themes of SA when it comes to the victims in her books.
#idk if any of this makes sense im trying to verbalize my thoughts#acotar#acotar rant#rhysand acotar#feyre archeron#nesta archeron#tamlin acotar#anti sjm#critical sjm#cw sa mention#cw sa
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