#it’s like nobody wants to treat them like ppl lol
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their designs, their grief, their anger, kaibyakumon’s unexplored loneliness borne from wealth, kenji’s untouched survivor’s guilt, just them honest2god are too good for rhyme anima and might even be too good for hypmic LOL
#vee queued to fill the void#this is an unpopular opinion bc nobody but like 3 ppl care about them LOL#kenji being witness to it all akira and satoru’s sacrifice kaibyakumon’s descent into anger obsession and sickness#like the way he looked so relieved seeing kaibyakumon standing on his own and with purpose#kenji is so unexplored in that show it’s criminal LOL#like kaibyakumon treated scuro and chiaro as if they were akira and satoru but how did kenji feel about them????#and then kaibyakumon’s seiyuu is one of those on the point castings#he lost a friend to senseless violence and was somewhat public about his grief#after the anime ended he talked about how he related to his character’s anger#he also voices ranmaru in utapuri so when the collab happened he looked thrilled to be on stage under the hypmic name#that alone should warrant kaibyakumon coming back LOL#kaibyakumon didn’t know what to do with all his wealth and intellect until he channelled it into helping ppl get second chances#he went from throwing poolside college parties with plenty of alcohol to fostering a community#and it was probably his own second chance too until chuuoku took all of that away from him#and sent two of his prides and joys back in body bags HE DESERVED TO BE ANGRY AND MAKE THAT EVERYONES PROBLEM LMAO#what did kenji do before choosing to follow kaibyakumon????#i have questions but they don’t have the stage to develop like stage ocs do and i *clenches fist* want better for them lmao
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#NO LITERALLY#like the way i am treated now vs when i was fat is fucking insane#like it’s insane how many of my friends viewed me as an emotional support mule who has no life outside of them lol#also like how many of them enjoyed me being the fat friend in comparison to them#also trigger warning but i was assaulted as a fat person and i could absolutely tell my#feminist girls girl friends#didn’t take me seriously bc the man who assaulted me was conventionally attractive and i was not#so there’s that lol#also girls girl goes out the window when woc receive opprotunities buttttt#nobody wants to talk about that either lol#the whole avantika situation and ppls response is so telling likeee#if ur feminism doesn’t include all women fuck u genuinely
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Lol I’m back here yapping but it’s not my fault so many people are suddenly talking about how shitty endgame and Steve’s ending was 😭 one thing I’ve noticed when it comes to Steggy is people are legit writing a fanfic about them and treat it as canon. Saw someone say Peggy fought with them every day on the field. Peggy was an agent, not a soldier? Not once in any of the cap trilogy do we see her anywhere near the battlefield? I know the Carter show tried to do some heavy lifting there but a) literally nobody saw that and b) are any of the older shows even canon? And id we go by Carter show, doesn’t it show how she moved on from Steve and literally wasn’t simping for him for 70 years?? People claim Peggy always loved him and fought by his side, but the whole steggy romance is literally all tell, no show. We DONT see them in love, we see what could be considered a war fling. We don’t see them connect deeply, we don’t see Steve have an understanding with her, we don’t even see Peggy going crazy for him. But suddenly it was this grandiose romance that’s worth risking the universe for. I think that’s my main issue with it bc we literally see them have like five convos, one assault and one awkward kiss yet I’m meant to believe they were soulmates? If marvel wanted me to believe that, they should have written that! If marvel wanted me to believe they saw each other all the time on the battlefield, they should have shown that or told us in the actual movies! Peggy’s legit watching the war reels along with everyone else! She was an agent, probably a code breaker, helped with training and briefings, she did not fight and plan, that was all the commandos. Surely they could have done that if they wanted to? And now ppl claim Peggy never moved on bc she had Steve’s pic on her desk (mind you shield was founded in his name and she’s a co-founder, why wouldn’t she have a pic of the man who sacrificed himself for them) and she always waited for Steve? No. Pegg literally told him she lived her life happily, and he should too. Ppl literally watched the mess that was endgame and started pretending like they were obsessed with each other when Steve just regretted the missed chances. Peggy was not waiting on him! I know the gen public just does not understand Steve and that’s why they fell for this lazy nostalgia bait that is Steve’s ending, but now they’re literally ignoring the cap trilogy and making up their own stories based on endgame (which is full of nonsensical time travel and it’s never explained how Steve didn’t fuck up timelines. And no, he was not the husband the whole time, it was not the plan all along, if that were the case Steve would not be told to move on and live in the future by Peggy, Peggy would not fall in love on agent Carter and Steve WOULD NOT MAKE OUR WITH HIS NIECE OMG
THANK YOU. You are so completely, utterly right about all of that, you really said it all. It drives me nuts that the general public considers endgame to be this epic, near perfect movie when it is ANYTHING but, so I'm just happy more and more people are apparently starting to see that, especially when it comes to the travesty that was Steve's ending. It's not going to undo the damage, but it does mean there are still people out theee who love and understand Steve, and that's heartening. If means something ❤️
Please, always feel free to yap at me, thank you for sharing your thoughts!
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The BG3 companions if they were in Middle-Earth:
@window-on-the-west highly valuing your input here!
EDIT: I FORGOT ASTARION how could I, my 2nd favorite romance and I completely forgot about him 😭: a Sindarin elf of Rivendell I think, fought in the Seige of Mordor during the Last Alliance of Elves and Men and was badly scarred, physically and emotionally, by the war. Was taken prisoner for some time, tortured and enslaved ;_;
Wyll: a ranger of Ithilien who's lowkey in love with Captain Faramir (bc who ISN'T). Cries his eyes out at Aragorn's coronation
Lae'zel: ALSO a ranger of Ithilien, but originally a foreigner, a woman of Harad or Rhun, who was part of a very tiny minority of ppl who were against allying w/ Sauron (recall Sam's/Faramir's musings over the young dead Southron man, if he believed in the cause of Sauron, or if he only wished to be home, and was threatened/forced to fight). She escaped and made it to Gondor. The type of ranger who's like we should do a suicide mission into Mordor and end this once and for all I'LL tear down the foundations of Barad Dûr MYSELF
Gale: the approach I think most ppl would take is to make him a figure like Feanor, super talented but arrogant, flying too close to the sun and pissing off the gods lol. However 1) Feanor was a dick, not at ALL charming like our Gale 2) I think he needs to stay human (as I think the fact that he wants to accomplish SO MUCH in his life but has less than a century to do so cannot be discounted when we speak of his ambition). In which case he'd be like a Renaissance man of Gondor, like Faramir. Deeply learned in Gondor's lore, but also highly skilled in battle. Also thinks the Ring "is a gift," BIGLY. YUUUGELY in favor of using it against Sauron, CONVINCED his good intentions and knowledge of lore would allow him to master it for good (but also to grow his own power)
Shadowheart: a bit tricky since we don't have an abundance of cults kidnapping people, but what if she was a Dunedain girl, kidnapped at a young age by agents of The Enemy, and then sent back years later as a spy for Sauron
Karlach: another tricky one. Perhaps if she was a woman of Rohan, captured and badly wounded in an orc raid. Arwen's mother was so physically and emotionally scarred after she survived an orc attack that she left for Valinor; it's clearly a traumatic experience, so what about someone who couldn't run away to Valinor? Who has to live with what was taken from her in this attack, and then learn Wormtongue, one of her own people and the king's own advisor, whom they all trusted, was a spy for Saruman? And then learn that Saruman, who was supposed to be their friend and protector, sold them out to Saruon. Nobody gets betrayed like Rohan in LOTR so that's my argument for placing her there.
Minthara: one of the Noldor elves in the First Age who was captured by Melkor but survived and escaped Thangorodrim. I recall that these elves' old communities didn't always treat them well, finding them too traumatized and changed to accept them again :(. Fits w/ the taken hold of an evil cult and then made an exile. She'd start her OWN resistance against Melkor, with blackjack, and hookers!
Halsin: one of the Beornings. OBVIOUSLY. For those who don't know, in the Hobbit, Beorn, after whom the Beornings are named, is a giant mountain man who can shapechange INTO A BEAR. He lives with highly intelligent animals, can speak to beasts, has a giant garden with giant flowers and giant bees, and lives off honey cakes and cream. He also HATES goblins (ie orcs) and only offers his help to Bilbo & Co because they have fought and killed a whole bunch of goblins (also he knows who Gandalf is ffs don't trust his shitty adaptation in the movie 🙄 that scene is so much funnier and better done in the book)
Jaheira: a Silvan elf of Thranduil's realm. veteran fighter against orcs. Totally wanted in on the council of Elrond but she pissed off Thranduil with her lecturing about how did you let Gollum get loose lol
Minsc: also a Boerning. I know he's not a shapechanger but his animal companion, ability to speak to beasts, and the fact that he is GIANTIC and all muscle, pls, he fits right in with the mountain men. He'd also love living on honey cakes and cream, as would Boo lol. Being a Rider of Rohan also works for him imo - altho he looks way to big to fit on a horse lol, their culture surrounding war and martial prowess has parallels w/ Rasheman
The Emperor: a ringwraith 😂 THEE fucking ringwraith in fact, The Witch King of Angmar himself. No man can slay me 💅🏼 Thanks to @oryndoll for this one lol
#gale dekarios#gale of waterdeep#wyll ravengard#karlach#karlach cliffgate#lae'zel#astarion#astarion ancunin#minthara#minthara baenre#jaheira#Minsc#Halsin#Shadowheart#the emperor bg3#BG3#baldur's gate 3#LOTR
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Can... can I maybe beg for info dumping about Owen and Hubter's original designs/story?
OFCCC!! I LOVE talking about my ocs so if you have any questions from what I’m about to tell please ask, now brace yourself this is a long one,
Ok lore, where do I start, imma give some world-building context first: Thousands of years ago there were these dudes each from a different species whose sole purpose was to protect their nation. Nobody really knows how they appeared but they had been protecting their nations for generations. As more Nations appeared and more wars started happening, lesser and lesser of them started appearing, first, it skipped a generation, then two, then three and so on until nobody knew what had happened to the fearless warriors that once fought for their nations, in some cultures they were forgotten, in others, they were treated as a myth and in others, they were treated as a curse who would come and cause chaos and destruction. There are 5 of them, they are an elf, a dragon, a vampire, a mermaid/man and a faun. Here are some Sketches as to how their designs might look but I’m probs gonna change them


forgot to mention but the world is kinda in a medieval era¿, it's like a DnD campaign of some sort lol
Ok so- Hunter and Owen being part of the main cast obviously are these previously mentioned “warriors” - Kinda… let me explain, I’ll start with Owen cuz’ his backstory is simpler, you have your stereotypical perfect mermaid, however, these mermaids are a pretty discriminatory species, if someone doesn't follow their very strict beauty standards, which ofc is being a cutesy little fish-tail mermaid, they are categorised as a sea monster. Sea monsters live in separate places from the mermaids. Mermaids have the most territory residing in a huge and radiant city, like Atlantis, where everything and everyone is perfect living a perfect life. Then we have sea monsters, that, despite being way more, are left to live in a small, not very fit-to-live territory with little access to food and resources. Now, there is a deeper reason as to why that is. The normal mermaids have no idea of this but within the royal family there is this prophecy, which is engraved in a rock that they keep hidden, that someday a shark-tail mermaid ( like Owen, who just so happens to be who is meant to protect the people ) will appear and take the throne from those who aren’t meant to have it ( the mermaids ) The royal family for generation has kept the sea monsters oppressed in hopes that they don’t rebel and take the throne. So, Owen lives with his mother in a little house on the sea monsters side, he’s pretty liked and well-known bc he is one of the few ppl, like members of the revolutionary army, that dares to go to the mermaids side for food, ( little parenthesis, the revolutionary army has asked him multiple to join but he refuses each time bcs “he doesn’t like conflict” ) he’s pretty cocky with his abilities so for him it's no issue to go to that side bcs he is sure that he’ll never get caught (he has, he just escapes rlly easily ) it was actually in one of these occasions that he met Hunter, and finally I have a drawing of that!
here’s the full page, it also comes with their designs and size difference

I’ll explain how the hell Hunter is underwater and his reason to do so later btw. To summarise what happens next, they break out of prison, Hunter realizes Owen might be the one Caly is looking for (I’ll explain who she is later) Hunter asks him to go with him to the surface, Owen agrees, they go, adventure commences! ( for anyone wondering, yes Owen does end up making a rebellion and taking the throne but much, much, much later)
Now to Hunter,
He’s a shadow-shifter, which essentially means that he is just a shadow w/o any real physical form so he can shift into whatever he wants, however, while he can make small alterations to his body like growing an extra pair of arms, grow wings or grow a couple of feet, to make big changes like increase his size exponentially for example, he needs a huge calorie intake that he can transform into mass/shadow that he can shape. Now I just said that shadowshifters don't have physical forms, that’s not the full truth, due to evolution they have developed a “base form” that resembles humans except that they are slightly taller ( around 7 feet ) and have black with purple eyes, like in this drawing here.

Shadowshifters are still, well shadows they just look human to sort of blend, but Hunter for example when faced with very strong emotions loses control of himself and turns into a shapeless shadow.
Onto Hunter's backstory, shadowshifters were a nomad nation, never really given their own land to call home, so they just wandered in caravans around all the lands. They were a hated species being seen as less by almost everyone because they didn't have a physical form. ( the real reason is that they were afraid of what they could actually do if they wanted to attack a nation, bc shapeshifting is a very broken ability 🙂↕️) They were so hated that other species began to hunt them, the fact that they were taller and had black eyes made them an easy target as they were easy to identify. One day the shadowshifters were crossing through the woods that sat in between the border of humans and fawns. They were playing music, the children were playing and an overall happy aura was taking over. As Hunter was playing with the other kids he ran over to his mother to ask her for her necklace so he could use it in the game they were playing, his mother happily handed it over. (This is important) Suddenly they heard a big crash followed by screaming. A huge group of not only humans but dragons and hybrids as well had attacked them. Then, the fire started, the dragons began burning everything as the humans and hybrids hunted them down. Hunter's mom grabbed him by the hand and started running away, Hunters mom knew that they wouldn't be able to outrun them, so she hugged Hunter tight saying her goodbyes and instructing him to run away as fast as he could, and to not look back for any reason. Hunter ran nonstop into the fauns territory until his body gave out and he fainted. He got woken up by a kid faun, close to his age, who was slightly shaking him and asking if he was okay. The kid looked at him confused, asking again if he was okay and reassuring him that he was safe. He said that his name was Kamal. Here’s how he looks like as a young adult

Kamal took Hunter to his village where Hunter would tell Kamal’s mom what happened; Fauns being a very docile species did not have any hate towars shadowshifters btw; Kamal’s mom decided to take Hunter in and raise him, the people of the village where also very kind and accepted Hunter. He lived a fairly happy life, until he was around 17. See the one who was supposed to protect the fauns was Kamal, and both he and Hunter decided that the best way to do that was to become bounty hunters and roam the borders of the fauns territory to make sure no one dangerous came in, they started doing this when they were around 13 so by the time they were 17 they were pretty good at it, however, as most teenagers, they believed themselves to be invincible, or at least Hunter did. ( This part is still in development so it's not gonna be that well-written jsjs ) One day, as they were doing their jobs and patrolling the borders, Hunter noticed a group of fairly known criminals entering the forest, so being as reckless as he was, he just started running w/o thinking, Kamal being more cautious decided to check the wanted posters he carried with him, he saw that the leader of the group had a danger level of 4 and a torch stamp ( Wanted posters rank criminals with danger levels ranging from 1 to 5 and if they have a torch stamp means that they have magic ) Kamal rushed to stop Hunter from doing something stupid but when he got there he had already started a fight, Kamal joined knowing there was no way Hunter could win on his own, While they were fighting one of the criminals launched at Hunter’s back with a sword while he fought someone else, Kamal saw this and rushed to push Hunter out of the way getting himself stabbed. Kamal's powers began going haywire, the ground shaking, plants and trees growing fastly everywhere, this scared the criminals away but the damage was already done. Hunter just stood there holding his brothers body, as the last bit of air left Kamal's body Hunter's necklace began glowing and something green started coming out of where Kamal's heart was, and the crystal on the necklace started absorbing it. When it stopped, the crystal was glowing green and the realisation of what just happened dawned on Hunter and he started screaming and crashing out, this caused him to lose his physical form and become a huge shadow that moved frantically everywhere, until he eventually passed out. When he woke up he was in his house, but not in his room, he was in Kamal's room, and his (adoptive) mom was hugging him asking him if he was okay and where Hunter was, he just stood there trying to make sense of everything, then he heard it. His mother called him Kamal. He rushed to the bathroom and saw himself in the mirror, there in the reflection stood Kamal.
And that’s it ✨✨ there is soooo much more I have to say abt their stories but to do so it was very important to have hunters backstory clear so parts of the actual story are clear, I left a ton of things un explained so please ask if y’all wanna know something, I might take some time but I assure you that l WILL respond so dw. Gosh, I didn’t even touched the reasonings behind their designs, not only that but a bunch of other stuff happens in the actual story that’ll love to tell but I feel like this post is long enough so maybe I’ll post that another day.
#oc art dump#oc artwork#g/t ocs#ocs#oc art#my ocs#oc#oc artist#oc lore#my art <3#silly art#writing#writers on tumblr#oc writing#oc wip#oc world#oc work#g/t community
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OKAY HEAR ME OUT CHOCCY SEB GIVES CLORA A SNAKE RING?!?!
Soooooo rereading the fic and I’m back to chapter 33, and it totally popped into my head that they are IN THE VICTORIAN ERA and do ya know what was super popular after the engagement ring that Queen Victoria was given by Prince Albert? A SNAKE RING

AND IF THAT AINT SEB TREATING CLORA LIKE THE QUEEN SHE IS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS 😭💙💚✨
Thank you for coming to my ted talk 🫣😂
LMFAOO YESS TRUST ME, IVE SEEN THIS AFTER DOING MY OWN RESEARCH ABOUT VICTORIAN RINGS, ITS SO PERFECT!! AND THE FACT THAT ITS GREEN TOO LMAO, prince albert was a possessive slytherin confirmed!!🤪 but yea ill DEFS be incorporating a snake into the final design of cloras ring HAHA. i basically HAVE to...yknow, for period accuracy 🥰
WOO YAY im glad i could inspire you to start writing!!!🙏and i get it, writing fanfic is defs self indulgent and for ourselves first and foremost, but obvs nobody wants to release their work into the void😩 as for how my own fic got popular, one of the main things is defs timing. i published the first chap basically within the first week of the game being out (it came out on the 10th and my chap was on the 18th) so it was there right at the peak/start of the fandom. but i also dont wanna attribute it all to timing BAHHA cuz i think im a pretty good writer and that helps....my fic also didnt get popular right away, but i was consistently posting every single week + eventually started adding art every single week, and was just really dedicated to not only writing but also drawing art for it (which is also obvs another huge factor/probs the biggest factor). ive had so many ppl tell me they started reading my fic bc they saw my art on pinterest or something LOL, and some ppl have even read it fandom-blind bc they were into the seb/clora dynamic??? which is another point actually. i always joke about how i love my cliches and good girl+bad boy dynamics, and that im unashamed about loving them LOL, but also...they're cliches for a reason!!! lots of us eat that shit up!!!😤so i think thats defs another factor, vs if my fic was a bit more niche and avant garde LOL the fandom is also (understandably) a lot slower than it was at the beginning of the year so itll be harder in general, but maybe you could commission art to go with your fanfic? ive seen a lot of other HL fanfic writers do it, and i think it defs helps to draw attention! GOOD LUCK and i hope you keep writing!!!🫡💖💖💖🙌
huh??? go with the tide pods instead, THAT shit looks bussin😩😩
AWW TYY😭😭I LOVE THAT HAHAH AND IM GLAD U THINK SO💖💖 my friend also asked me this question after seeing my recent ask, and i STILL have no idea what i would have named it instead LMAOO, thats how bad i am at naming things. even a year later im like bruh idk!!! clora and sebs bizarre adventures??? i guess id probs make it something light/dark themed in retrospect, or something more specific to the ancient magic, but i still have no idea what LOL
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hope you dont mind the ask, was just kinda curious ^^
what was your mindset in coming back to the internet and did you expect the kind of reaction that you got?
i wasnt expecting the positive response AT ALL. coming back my mindset was something liek "im only doing this so i can post my art again, im only doing this becuz im passionate abt my artwork. nobodys gonna believe me and im sure only a handful of ppl r gonna be rational abt this whole thing, and im gonna have 2 deal with a mob of ppl out 2 get me and another mob who wants 2 sexualize me and stalk me, but if i can post my artwork and just ignore it itll be fine."
and then i posted my vid and every1 was so sympathetic and understanding and pleasant 2 me. ive nevr experienced that kind of basic humanity b4 on the internet, and it was shocking. every1 was so nice abt my struggles with abuse and homelessness inparticular, which was honestly an afterthought in my comeback vid becuz i didnt think any1 would care. i didnt expect anything close 2 the reaction i got, and it gave me a lot of hope and peace. i felt safe posting online 4 the first time.
i cant say that i still feel the same, after the borderline 12 situation happening only 6 days after my vid ive basically been retraumatized and have severe anxiety surrounding the internet again. it was my fault and was incredibly disrespectful, hurtful, and wrong, i will never deny that i was wrong in the first place and did something horrible. but the sheer harassment and dogpiling wasnt warranted and was arguably worse than what i did 2 begin with. it was blown out of proportion and it only took 6 days 4 every1 2 stop liking me and treating me like a person. that situation made me realize that despite the overwhelming positivity that i received, there will always be so many ppl who want 2 take it away from me, who want 2 make the internet unsafe 4 me again, who want 2 see my downfall. i wont let them win, i will ALWAYS strive 2 want 2 be the best person i can be and better myself everyday, i will ALWAYS want 2 learn from my mistakes and improve. but knowing this, posting again feels liek walking on eggshells.
2 summarize.. i have vry mixed feelings abt the internet as of rn. im so so so so so so so grateful 4 the support and i love all of u, but i know that it could be taken away from me at any minute due 2 something that i will nevr foresee. i nevr come online with the intention 2 be problematic or controversial or hateful, i just liek posting art!!! i would nevr do something offensive or hurtful on purpose, but im scared of doing it by accident again.
didnt think thisd be so long!!! or venty!!! i need 2 talk less mayb.. lol ^^;
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I think the reason a lot of people feel taken aback and the reaction to the real lestat is mix is because many people assumed the "real lestat" is somehow better than what louis remembers and less chaotic when in reality nobody said the "real lestat" was actually a good guy.
thinking lestat would be a good guy when louis will never be attracted to anything less than the human equivalent of sticking his hand into a blender and turning it on is lol.
it's crazy how the fandom treats this (based on certain book ppl) bcuz it didn't change in the books either?? all that changed is that some ppl felt bad about his backstory. his actions never rly improve. his communication skills suck. u can't just do whatever u want and say it's ok bcuz u have trauma. feeling bad about something u never stop doing doesn't mean ur rly doing anything but feeling bad.
when he's killing prostitutes horrifically in the book and then later is like "well they killed and stole from men otherwise so actually I was saving the world here." ok......first of all.....the rant I could go on is a whole other post tbh. so anyway, second point.....did u tell louis any of that tho?? does that excuse *how* u killed them?? lestans say yes but srsly look at it from literally *any* other angle but his own perspective and tell me u still think that. like be serious lol.
#asks#interview with the vampire#amc interview with the vampire#interview with the vampire amc#iwtv amc#amc iwtv#iwtv 2022#lestat de lioncourt
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also pigeon evbo is fuckin awesome i love the idea that the species he is reflects how people treat him n stufz and as for the other ppl in the noob level i like to think theyr all just some type of like bird you see everywhere here in my country theres mayas literally everywhere and nobody rlly pays much attention to them just maybe feed them every once in a while and then they just blend in with the surroundings like how the pros dont rlly care that much abt the noobs so they dont rlly notice them that much hehe :33 not sure abt what other avians they could be tho!! and if in this au everyones a creature of some sort what would the pros be? and the masters? oh my gof wait thought just came through what iff emf gained the ability to like shapeshift once they became champion omg i originally thought like emf is normally how they look like canonically but like all misty? not entirely solid but has like ykno particles floating around and once theyre champion they can go full mist mode and change their proportions and apearance and stuff but still kinda look like themself? but honestly the idea that emf can shapeshift into any form and chooses to be ominous as fuck is hilarious lmaoaoa anyway thanks for coming to my ted talk there will be more
OHHH IM SO GLAD YOU AGREE!!! AND ALSO EXACTLY!! SHAPESHIFTER EMF MY LOVEEE <33333
but to address your other point,, we’ve established that the noobs are different species of avians, and if you wanna get real angsty with it they’ve all probably had their wings clipped so they can’t fly or save themselves when missing a jump and the fighters are vampires, but what about the other species?
so!! honestly i want to say the masters are also shapeshifters, but like- to an extent maybe? as in they can alter their physical appearance to some degree, but it increases exponentially if they become champion. and that might actually be a pretty cool incentive to do so, if they go from being able to vaguely alter how they look to changing their fucking state of matter lol.
tbh, i’m not quite sure about the pros!!! there are so many options, i’m not sure which one to pick!!! (if anyone wants to drop a comment or an ask you are so so welcome to do so!!)
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Tommie what do u know about jws 👀 asking for a friend (the friend is me)
help LOL there's so many things abt jws that i always want to bring up 😭 tbh i have gathered a lot of random knowledge about jws because i got really into watching ex-jw youtube videos awhile back and became fascinated with the whole thing bc the organization is literally like reallyreally evil and it feels like nobody even knows?? 😭😭 idk i knew like nothing abt jws before then and i feel like most ppl i know are the same. ppl just kind of treat them like mormon-lite and it's crazyy to me. im always like "ok well do u know about the shunning" or all the unpaid labor or the very limited amount of ppl who are apparently actually going to make it into heaven. like its SO bad. idk every time i pass a kingdom hall now im like . we need to save those people FR. also my friend bought me crisis of conscience for my bday this year so ive read like maybe a quarter of that atp (shout out 2 jamez). what do U know abt jws🫣
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WWHAT WUD THE CREEPS DO 4 HALLOWEEN I MUST KNOW
anon... yes i like this. general disclaimer this is tailored to my au !! stuff under cut
toby likes it, thinks its fun and stuff. he's not the type to dress up beyond like, maybe a jacket and a mask or whatever, but he'll go and buy(steal) stupid ass halloween decorations from spirit or the dollar store. there r several mini skeletons sitting around his cabin. he treats it like elf on the shelf, but. . . skeletons... def will sit around and watch scary movies with a bag of halloween candy . totally carves pumpkins with whoever will do it with him
tim wouldnt really want to do much cuz he's just tired, but he probably would put out a small little pumpkin and bowl of candy outside his door. he's in an apartment so he doesnt really get trick or treaters. will prob buy some candy after halloween so its on sale
brians so annoying omfg(lovingly) he'd buy a fake arm, blood, and wig and stick it in his trunk so it looks like an arm is sticking out. yall know what im talking about. him and tim share an apartment so he'd prob try to actually put something simple around it, like some plastic pumpkins, but nothing really big. he is also a grown man with no kids, so he doesnt find himself going all out for these things
natalie. ok i recently made it where she's either already a tattoo artist, or learning to be a tattoo artist or whatever, but i could see her and some coworkers setting up the shop all halloweeny. she's so fucking tall that they'd just call her over for all the spider web stuff. she thinks its fun and she likes halloween a lot so it's cool. she'd get a huge kick out of doing halloween tattoos during october too. goes and hangs out with toby/nina for it
nina goes to parties . she HAS to get a whole new costume for every party. its super wasteful but she doesnt care all that matters is shes sexy. every year without fail she is a sexy gothic vampire for one of the parties. she works at hot topic, BUT she'd absofuckinglutely get a second job at spirit halloween for october. she's a creepy galll... def sets her apartment up super cutely, brings toby and nat over so they can carve pumpkins with her, tries to dress them up, etc. tons of halloween posts on her social medias too LOL shes so cute
jeff would prob also go to more like... weirder ( ?) parties with creeps and scary people roaming around just doing crazy shit. warehouse shit. prob finds someone to bring home and kill. he thinks its fun, its easier to just go about his days looking the way he does, he loves scaring the fucking shit out of people. doesnt decorate or wear costumes though, says its cringe LMFAO. hates how hyped nina is about it
jane and mary would totally decorate, but in a much more.. ? elegant ? way. like those tall skinny candles, swap out their doormat for something halloween themed, really nicely done pumpkins for some reason. jane would want to host a cute little halloween dinner for uni friends. probably just gets simple costumes, like she'd put on a witch hat and black dress and thats all, but its cute. takes sally (and ben, if sally asks him to come) trick or treating.
sally draws tons of drawings, loves disney halloween marathons, paints on pumpkins(doesnt like the smell of gutting them), etc. she'd decorate with jane cuz she lives w her. she loves it so much but she still gets scared of the animatronic things at stores and stuff LOL. begs ben to trick or treat w her. really embarrassing for ben
ben wouldnt do much besides like. he'd get worse w his internet trolling (scaring the fucking shit out of teens on the internet), start doing more actual hauntings bc nobody will believe his victims during october which means slender wont find out he's doing it. he would not want to go trick or treating..but he'd go with sally with a pillow case and he'd try to awkwardly stand further back but the ppl at the door would always b like 'aw dont be shy come here!' LOL
jack doesnt celebrate it, his family didnt really celebrate it much when he was human so he doesnt do it now. he does get kinda sad during holiday season though, cuz of obvious reasons, but halloween isnt the strongest Pain for him
liu is so fucking miserable theres no way. jk he'd set out like, some pumpkins and maybe get one of those lights that project ghosts onto his garage, but he wouldnt want to go all out or do anything to the inside of his house. jeff really liked halloween when he was younger so its kinda like ouch but he's getting overit. i guess. . .
kate doesnt..celebrate anything........ but when she does occasionally visit the cabin, maybe for food or a shower, and she sees toby decorated, she'd be happy to see it. she's kinda unsettling to be around, but she'd sit down and watch a movie with him in silence. then bring a massive bag of candy to the mine w her w/o telling toby. he just had to cope
ann and lulu dont do anything in the hospital. they dont really have any concept of time........... or the resources to decorate... and they dont get any trick or treaters... cuz theyre...stuck in an abandoned hospital in the woods . . . yeah..
ty for ask anoni like this one. very simple but very sweet
#asks#creepypasta fanart#creeped#ticci toby#clockwork creepypasta#god i dont wanan tag#i give up#nina the killer#ill do my 3 and thats it.
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I think people who saw his backstory wanted to separate his child self from his current self and that’s where the “fake Tsukasa” thing came from because they couldn’t and wouldn’t believe that Tsukasa could be nice
Oh I fully agree! I’ve never been a fan of this distinction because I don’t see the sense in calling the Tsukasa we spend the entire series with and the one Hanako grew up with the “fake Tsukasa,” it seems very redundant. TikTok TBHK fans hate any implication that the current Tsukasa could partially still be baby Tsukasa because it would mean they’d have to challenge their rigid view of his character. People on Tumblr are like this too sometimes, they genuinely believe that Tsukasa has no redeeming qualities and that everyone likes him is an abuser irl (which is so interesting because that’s such a childish, black and white view of the world, I wonder how they treat people irl who don’t conform to their standards for “a good person”)
It’s a very Gen Z attitude (I say as a Gen Z myself), you have to be so morally pure that even the fictional characters you like have to be saints. It has me rolling because these same fans don’t give a FUCK abt the racists in this fandom who have dragged Hakubo’s character through the mud, any of the homophobes who deny the obvious queercoding of Mitsuba and Kou, the misogynists who call Nene a pick-me or say Aoi is leading Akane on, OR the fans who make actual questionable content. No, the ones we should be worried about are people who find Tsukasa a little bit enjoyable
Sorry for the rant, I’m just tired of dealing with these ppl. I don’t rly like talking abt Tsukasa on here bcuz I keep getting these passive-aggressive asks from his haters or even outright hate from ppl too pussy to reveal their usernames. I do get annoyed with it ngl but at the end of the day it doesn’t matter because I’m still going to like Tsukasa and other problematic characters. If I can’t like them publicly without getting hate, I will LOVE them privately and quietly consume content for it. I’ve been don’t it for years with multiple characters that fandoms have deemed pure evil. I will continue to do it and nobody is going to change, even if someone was rly dedicated to harassing me over it I’d just delete all my accounts and go back to being an inactive fandom member. I sleep well knowing these ppl are entirely powerless lol
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If you don’t mind, I’m gonna yap for a second.. I think another problem with Kab is how sudden the turn around was. Like in the first convo where Kab was acting “evil”, Zam fought back with the argument that she’s wasn’t really evil at all and I think he did believe that at least a little. And if Kab slowly began to turn her path around then he would be a bit more trusting cause he would have SEEN her actual emotional growth but the turn around was so fast, it feels like there was no emotional growth at all and that Kab is still the same as before, cause she basically is. She still wants Mane dead no matter the cost and she’s still, intentionally or not, trying to manipulate Zam, but she wants to be treated as if she’s had that whole long term emotional growth
yeah ii think this is where her majority experience with short-term smps really bit her in the ass, i think there are two main directions that other ppl take it tho: 1. is as what you speculate in that some ppl think that she hasnt had genuine growth and hasnt changed at all and 2. that she genuinely changes too quickly and is therefore unreliable regardless of if shes being honest or not
i think the reason zam was so receptive to her in silent scream was cause this has been a recurrent plot point for a couple streams now, kab trespassing zams base to yap while zam tries to decipher her wants and motivations until eventually she just let it all out and in that instance i think he did genuinely believed that she changed even if it was slowly/just a little bit
....but then die for you happened lol
ssee the thing about kab is that shes shes all-or-nothing, going from one extreme to the next after just a little bit of change in character which can be jarring to some ppl to say the least (unless you thought she was lying and therefore any character development shouldnt be believed i suppose) but is something that was a great asset in shorter and arena-based smps where you had to get as much advantage against your opponent as possible without having to worry about the long-term consequences of these actions ie them not trusting you while still having to interact often in mundane ways even after messing with them. while she Can be swayed this only really works with things she was already unsure of which while a great motivator and trait to keep her on track with her goals (again another great trait for short-term smps), can be really jarring and distressing for other ppl if the things she was absolutely sure about goes against their own perspective like for example her thinking that derapchu killing her constitutes zam getting payback for her as the protector of the server (The protector, not A protector like zam insists, The protector of the server)
i think shes far too used to the fast-paced instant acceptance of changed personality in arena smps that is a natural consequence of them being short-term and having a revolving door of members and teams which is why she expects ppl to accept her growth and efforts so quickly even if realistically nobody would hand over their trust that easily esp after essentially being harassed in their own home multiple times, like even in normal smps where theres a baseline amount of trust ppl still wouldnt trust you after doing that, what more in a server like lifesteal where general trust is low basically all the time?
#mine.ask#Anonymous#i wrote most of this at like 2 am cause i couldnt sleep so i hope this is understandable lol#like. kabs actions are logical sure but its one extreme to the next#even zam takes at least a couple weeks before changing into something opposite than he was#and hes one of if not the most fickle ppl on the server#like. idk. ive noticed from tge beginning that kabs lore is pretty fast-paced compared to everyone else#but after she got fixated on zam it increased by a lot i feel#like hating him one moment then loving him the next#like damn girl is he your fp /j#but yeah a lot of things kab does can be explained away by the fact that shes never really had to deal with the long-term consequences#of fucking with someone#whether it be because of the fact the smps she was in were short ones or cause clown was there to get rid of her opps#and like. in a regular smp maybe ppl would believe her more#but this is ls where all the players are accutely aware of the fact that trusting the wrong ppl could get them killed or worse#and kab not only has an untrustworthy rep thanks to money smp (that she was was proudly flaunting)(also derap is here)#but her still continuing to lie and manipulate ppl does not make ppl want to give her the necessary baseline trust#that would constitute believing in her whenever she changes her mind/direction#and unfortunately for her; now that shes been established as untrustworthy on lifesteal itself#(compare her rep to wemmbu whos rep comes from non-ls smps and is proudly trustworthy and loyal on ls itself)#that baseline trust is gonna be really difficult to go against#i was gonna give spoke as an example but then remembered he manipulated pbaj during the election arc lmao#but uh yeah reputation is really important on ls whether the players like it or not and kabs rep is unfortunately not the best#like bruh zam thinks shes less trustworthy than Spoke#do you have any idea how untrustwortthy someone would feel you are to get that low on the trustworthiness tier???#like damn it hasnt even been a full season yet
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i haven't engaged in exo discourse in a while but it's really annoying a huge chunk of kpop fans not just exols vilify cbx for suing when they clearly stated that sm was stealing from all sm artists but ppl are busier acting like ks0 and ta3min are saints because they left "the right way" like bruh sorry your faves didn't want to sue to cause trouble but it's literally an open secret that idols are exploited so it's no surprise a big company was stealing their money from under their noses and now somehow they're the bad guys because they sued their way out of a contract instead of waiting quietly to leave? and even cy is treated like a saint for staying like dude had a whole ass cheating scandal he was better staying in sm where he has the power to sue people to shut them up than going to small company where he's one scandal away from being a nobody lol kpop fans can't count two brain cells among them
no you’re right just bc cbx didn’t silently suffer everyone hates them which doesn’t make sense to me bc if your job didn’t pay you you’d be be mad as fuck😭so idk why this is any different😭also i think everyone forgets that sm literally guilt tripped bh into resigning and tricked him and then didn’t pay him or the other chipmunks like it was some real sinister shit😭and also the pcy thing ohhh don’t end him like that
#these kpop stans are thick as a brick though so you can never expect anything from them💆♀️#and on top of it all we’re on suit number two with sm and cbx bc they didn’t pay when the court ordered them to that first time😭that’s why#cbx had to go public w that shit
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Random but i miss 2020/21/22 when the KawaSara fandom was so active, now i barely see people talking about them or making content. Someone needs to bring back the KawaSara fandom somehow😭.
Ikr? its not much but I am trying to bring the fandom back to life as best I can but Im pretty much a one woman army lol plus a lot of personal life stuff has had me busy which hindered my efforts a bit that Im trying to make up for now, starting with hosting this years KawaSara week since the original organizers didn't do it last year and didn't appear to be going to this year either, so I took over because I knew we had support, fans were telling me how sad they were that it didn't happen last year and was begging for someone to organize it this year, so I took that upon myself to do because I didn't wanna see the week not happen this year either because nobody else stepped up to make it happen.
It sucks how so many got run off by bsa constantly harassing them and making them fearful of even making content for the ship because they knew they would get harassed and didn't wanna deal with it.
Alot of ppl also lost faith in the ship, which is understandable, but stupid IMO because there are ships that have gone through worse than KawaSara and became canon but for some reason ppl treated this like 'oh no, conflict, no way this is happening' and Im just like...danm yall really don't know how shipping works huh? but I mean to each their own but like Vegebul is right there if you wanna see a ship thats been through some REAL shit and look at em now.
It's like todays new age shipping everything has to be smooth sailing, super healthy, super pure, minimal to no conflict, for ppl to ship it and believe it'll be canon when that just isn't how it goes.
Like I even saw a shade tweet one time talkin about 'I actually like my ships vanilla, whats wrong with actually wanting a healthy ship built on mutual respect and positive development without any conflict or drama etc' and Im just like...OK? who tf said you couldn't? but these newbies actually treat shipping like some purity contest and have a weird superiority complex for liking the 'healthier' ships and anyone who doesn't like the 'healthy' ship are weird and horrible and don't care about xyz characters etc
Its so dumb, and childish, if all storytellers followed their logic then we wouldn't have some of the best ships in fiction because only the 'healthy' ones would be canon.
Nobody is saying they cant like healthy ships, but doing so does not make them superior to anyone else nor does it give them the right to dictate what other ppl should ship simply because they disagree and think only healthy ships should be supported, thats what ppl have a problem with. You can argue the opposite side has done the same but there is a big difference in severity between the two, 'healthy' shippers act way more superior and aggressive than 'toxic' shippers [as they call them] are.
But on the bright side KawaSara week has been announced to be happening this year and a surprising amount of ppl liked and retweeted it, so it just goes to show KawaSara fans DO still exist and enjoy the ship, they just went quiet or into hiding because of the harrassment.
And guess what? even tho the event page was specifically tagged KAWASARA don't you know antis 'somehow' found it? not even a day passed since it was posted before multiple antis flocked to the announcement to talk shit, that is a prime example right there why KawaSara fans got so quiet and discouraged from making content and talking about the ship, because THIS is what happens when you dare not fall in line with the BoruSara hivemind cult.
If you dont treat Sarada like Borutos exclusive property whos whole world and character revolves around him, then you don't care about Sarada or her feelings
Their logic not mine, so if you dare pair Sarada with someone other than Boruto who they believe owns her, then you don't care about her. If you don't support the narrative THEY set for her regardless if its been confirmed or stated as a canon fact or not, then you don't care about her because fanon interpretations > canon.
This is why I say this behavior screams insecure, I dunno how you could be the most popular ship with the biggest fandom and the most support, a hug in both the anime and manga, being 'fed good' more than any other ship, yet still be THIS triggered by KawaSara just EXISTING
keep in mind this is the ship they claim is dead, a crackship with zero chance of happening, yet they get so riled up everytime KawaSara is mentioned or so much as have a crumb together they all flock to try and discredit and undermine it, if KawaSara fans just have even a tiny bit of fun and happiness with the ship they come flocking to discourage you and make you feel bad.
That level of obsession with a ship you claim has NO CHANCE and is a non threat because your ship is already canon and set in stone, admit it or not, but their behavior screams that their threatened and arent really confident in their ship themselves which is why they feel the need to try and keep KawaSara down to lift themselves up because its the only way they feel secure, by making US go away, and when we don't, they get mad, because for some odd reason they just cant stand to see another shp besides BoruSara getting attention, love, and support, it drives them MAD.
Which is why you cant convince me their not insecure about their ship, that their not threatened by KawaSara, because to put it into perspective think about it like this, do you see SNS being bothered by SasuHinas existence? no right? know why? cuz their secure in their ship and don't feel threatened by SH, so SH is free to exist openly without SNS harassing them because they don't care, SH is irrelevant and has zero impact on them.
Thats how you would think BoruSara would be given how they boast about themselves, how much they have going for em, their popularity, their support, many moments, you'd think they'd be on cloud 9 not even paying little ol KawaSara and BoruSumi any mind but they do, and for some reason its KawaSara especially that gets under their skin more than anything which is strange tbh since thats the ship thats not even semi canon yet.
Lemme put that into perspective, they are more insecure about a ship thats not even semi canon yet, than BoruMitsu, BoruSumi, KawaAda and BoruAda that are semi canon [since many bsa also ship ksu] let that sink in.
I dunno why they have such a specific hatred towards KawaSara, maybe its because a lot of them hate Kawaki, and because Boruto is the top male prize and Sarada is the top female prize in their eyes, therefore nobody else is good enough for them but each other. And by top prizes, Im talking primarily about eugenics and status.
Read between the lines, what was Sakura? the pretty girl all the guys wanted, what was Sasuke? the cool handsome guy from a prestigious clan all the girls wanted, now what is Sarada? the cool pretty Uchiha princess, what is Boruto? the cool young lord all the girls fall for, their not subtle about it at all.
They discredit Sumire's feelings as insincere so she don't feel like a threat, they diminish and downplay Kawakis bond with team 7 and insist he's not even a part of it, they weirdly were fixated on Kawaki's body being inorganic and therefor concluding he was infertile and therefore couldn't have kids and therefore that'd be the end of the Uchiha clan if she was with him [which is telling of how they perceive her that her primary goal in the relationship would be popping babies, not love] they deny Kawaki as a part of the Uzumaki fam, saying he's unworthy, Naruto should disown him, etc etc, to keep him as the worthless orphan that deserves to die they want him to be.
Again, read between the lines, they dont give a danm about Boruto and Sarada together fr fr, this ship is about eugenics, this ship is about being able to brag about the young lord baggin the Uchiha heiress/Hokage, its about bragging rights, its about having the ship with the 2 biggest prizes, its about OP babies finally fulfilling their long weirdly held desire to see what those clan bloodlines mixed together would create, its about saying you don't want SS 2.0 except when its the ship you want then suddenly its A-ok
Foh man
Sorry I went on a bit of a rant but It really is annoying that KawaSara fans cant just exist in peace and always gotta hear them telling us why we shouldn't ship it, why it has no chance, why BoruSara is so superior and set in stone and we should just accept it yatta yatta yatta instead of just minding their danm business.
Yes I know all fandoms are guilty of this, but none like BoruSara, why? cuz its a far bigger fanbase with more support and they use it to their advantage, doesn't help that a lot of boruto stans support the ship as well as many Sarada fans [mostly Boruto stans tho] they even have SS and NH support too, so you cannot compare it. Their a much larger fandom with way more support that makes it extremely easy for them to bully every other fandom because their much smaller and they know it, everyone knows it, but they get away with it cuz whos gonna stop em? their the biggest and the loudest and therefore are right by default because the smaller fandoms are just 'haters' and 'jealous' 😒 lemme stop here
Bottom line I agree, it was nice back then before Ikemoto changed so much when he took over the writing after Kodachi left, ever since then he has completely butchered Sarada's character beyond recognition, not because she understandably cares and worries about her friend, but because thats ALL she cares and worries about, I don't think anyone has even noticed that Sarada hasn't mentioned Naruto or her mother once since the timeskip started besides that one speech that wasn't about either of them, but just about her defending Boruto, not about any grief over her idol being killed, not remorse for sending her dad away and leaving her mom without her husband, no the one and only time she mentions them is to defend Boruto which is abusmal, she didn't even mention her own dad until Boruto MADE her ask about him.
If thats the ship you want me to support then Im good, I don't want a ship where her only personality trait, motivations, goals, and character as a whole revolves entirely around a man and nothing else, just how to make HIS life better and being there for HIS pain and growth and only lifting HIM up while staying in the background doing nothing and having nothing going on for herself.
I know this may sound like 'but wait that makes it sound like KawaSara wont be canon' no Im not saying that, KawaSara is not off the table even with all that bs Ikemoto has done so far, like I said with Vegebul and just shipping in general, just because things look bad doesn't mean you lost, you haven't lost until somethings made official.
Are BoruSara together? no, are they semi canon? no, have either of them been shown or confirmed to have romantic feelings for each other? no, so nothing is lost yet, even if they were semi canon that still wouldn't be a loss because the other half has to reciprocate, like just cuz Sakura, Ino, and Karin liked Sasuke didn't mean he had to reciprocate any of them, just like even if Sarada liked Boruto doesn't mean he has to reciprocate those feelings or vice versa.
The only time a ship has truely 'lost' is when its actually dead, like one half of it dies for example, or its rival ship gets together, or their relationship is ruined beyond repair, like to the point of no possibility of redemption, only then has a ship truely 'lost' and 'died'
So no, none of this is me saying KawaSara cant still happen, it definitely can, especially with Ikemoto and Kishimoto saying Kawaki would be getting more development soon so there's that, if we get more Kawaki focus there might be some Sarada focus in there too in between. I don't wanna speculate tho but thats just a possibility Im throwing out there.
Regardless, sorry for the rant, but I'm really frustrated by this too because its 2024 now and ppl still cant leave KawaSara tf alone? thats what I meant when I said they take advantage of their size, they know they can silence us, but nobody can silence them, and that pisses me off but what can you do.
But hopefully the announcement of KawaSara week this year will get the fandom active and making content again for fans to enjoy, I will try to contribute something myself, I can understand why a lot of ppl might not wanna bother because of the hate they know they'll receive but I hope they don't let that stop them, it was bad enough KawaSara week wasn't hosted last year and everyone was really bummed about it, I don't want them to be happy seeing it happen this year only to not participate because antis wont let them have fun and enjoy the event in peace 🙏 I really hope the fam stays strong and don't let antis stop them from enjoying THEIR event.
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About the "nice to me" romance trope ask. That trope is like the bare bones, bottom of the barrel kind of stuff. "They treated me with basic human kindness" is not the epitome of romance. Its where things are supposed to start. The ground floor where all the other interactions and tropey moments kick off from. But if that's all the relationship has, that's not a very good or even compelling relationship. "They were nice to me." Your grandma's nice to you. The clerk you see every other day at the convenience store where you get your coffee is nice to you.
An end game, this is the one for me, my love, romance needs more than the sole trait of "they were nice."
Yeah, I totally agree with you. The worst part would be, definitely, that the whole "you are my hero" has never even be a romantic trope for BNHA -and for Izuku in particular, thats probably the least thing in his mind when talking about heroes-. I want to clarify something many had mixed up when that dropped back then: bkdks saw it as a romantic line for them bc it was a way to convey respect and closeness while being two male characters in a shonen manga. This was expected bc that would be okay and allowed for them in this context, and would represent how far they have gone from their middle school days -to be each other's heroes-; just like the hero duo isnt romantic on its own, it was more about ppl wanting to see their closeness while interpreting it as romantic and using it for fan fiction and fandom activities.
Many of the other shippers reacted smug, calling bkdks hypocrites for thinking now that it was used for her that it was not romantic anymore, but here's the thing: they dont need a hero-romantic coded thing bc they are a straight ship. They can and usually have to be explicit in some way, and considering their theme about questioning what heroes are and who saves other heroes, this loses all the possible romantic interpretations. Just like bkdk would be denied of romantic subtext -bc it wasn't expected to be romantic in canon, but a bond both could share that could serve as a ship moment-, for the hero nerd deku to consider you his hero doesnt seem to come from a romantic love he has for her, as he also calls All Might his hero -and she does have some parallels with him both visually and in some themes- and he already denied those feelings as that type of love.
This becomes even weaker when its revealed in 431 how they dont really talk to each other anymore, and their last nice moment together was in high school, as it show us how this wasn't meant to be interpreted as his romantic confession -he just noticed 8 years later he wants to talk to her more, if he was aware of any love I think he would have acted differently years ago-.
Idk, its just like they are constantly trying to avoid to confirm this ship while also having to make them have scenes together -for 429 ppl were so sure they were going to confess and ochako was hurt bc she didn't confess to him, and turns out she was crying for Himiko and feeling like she is not a hero. Nobody ends up confessing feelings. For 430 ppl claimed they were having a date in the snow bc of a small panel, and that her little collar thing was his mask, turns out 431 tell us they dont talk to each other and want to reconnect after years, that they lost their closeness and now feel awkward about each other, even insecure. For the cliff scene so many said he was going to confess his love, turns out they talk about Himiko and Shigaraki, without paying attention to their relationship. Hell, ppl thought she was going to come down from the helicopter and save deku in the final chapter of the war, making a reference to the fall scene Horikoshi draw picturing in mind what he would do "if he ever decided to develop them" (and he didnt lol I wonder why). Over and over again, we get 0 confirmation about it and no effort to make Ochako confess to him, so it becomes frustrating if we are supposed to keep waiting until they decide to canonize it.
But the bar is in hell, so if they added stuff about them going for a first date now nobody would be surprised -but to think the most romantic thing of it all is not even the official content, but the fanart one assistant/ex assistant made which includes ghost Himiko also holding Ochako's hand, Katsuki being all annoyed/jealous? about them, and Shouto with his noodles is really weird-.
Now that I think about it, its actually really, really sad, to think they became canon with an extra chapter after finishing the series which show us them not being close anymore. They arent comfortable with each other like they used to, and this isnt my own interpretation, is all over the text: Ochako not being able to talk to him in the first place (she isnt thinking about confessing anything, just talk to him about the dreams she had and wanting to talk more now that they see each other more often), Izuku being unsure about her wanting to reconnect, them being all shy about the sudden closeness... Sure shippers can see it as cute and I wont take that from them, but its true they are awkward now. They just... arent close anymore, and thats a suspicious decision for a team which supposedly wants to make them canon with 431. At first glance sure, it can pass as such, but knowing who these characters are, their history, etc... Yeah, talking from now on can be a romantic indirect confession, with shoujo bubbles and a clear focus on what he wants, but we are talking about oblivious Deku who doesnt notice indirectness as romantic, rather than big clear gestures. Yeah, the girl yearning for the guy and waiting for him to do the first move is a classic, but this is Ochako, who everyone agreed on "had" to be the one to confess -she wasn't looking for that with him, but to discuss the dreams and to talk more; it felt more like her feeling disappointed they haven't tried to talk more when they basically work together-.
I like my reading of 431 as an awkward depiction of adults reconnecting friendship after years of no talking, but I agree it was made to look romantic, rather than being actually romantic. Its a weird choice, but makes more sense to me than to think this is a canonization and a relationship the team and author wanted to develop in a romantic way.
#grrr talking#another thing to add to my perception of 431!#ill make a meta about it I promise <3#but still it makes me doubt bc it LOOKS romantic#but the contents arent really romantic specially with oblivious deku!#and also apparently himiko never said anything about loving freely#but about living freely#correct me if im remembering that wrong but that just makes it... interesting too
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