#it happens with interacting with people online too

[awsugar]

speaking of questions that exercise very mcr specific muscles in your brain. i was perusing mychem tumblr the other day and came across a masterpost about the SS/mayo blog frerard lore (i’m aware frerard is not PC these days thanks obama). i’ve been a dedicated fan for over a decade now and my brain is an mcr lore bank but i had literally never heard of this. do you know about it and if you do what are your thoughts

omg yea. ss/mayo is crazy. and unfortunately a lot of it has been lost to time and its not even saved on wayback. theres some stuff thats convincing, theres some stuff thats not.

so like lets preface this by saying that the ft willz myspace? confirmed to be frank. and obviously the stuff posted on skeleton crew, those screenshots of ft willz works that look like theyre on burnt paper? yea so those are confirmed and those are real fully frank no questions.

i personally am a skeptic of other accounts that claim to be ft willz. like the tumblr? i do not think thats frank. and i think that came at a time when people had already really speculated or figured out that ft willz WAS frank. so like i think the tumblr is honestly just someone who was pretending to be frank and managed to sort of emulate his style but yea i don't think it's him. i think the reason some of the stuff hits so hard in a frerard sense is because that was intentional by the person writing it. you know.

anyway ss and mayo. there were two blogs on blogspot started in 2007 i believe that fans thought were frank and gerard. well it started with mayo (its-mayonaise.blogspot.com). that blog is still up and so are a lot of the posts but i think a lot of them have been deleted as well, and not saved anywhere on wayback. im sure theyre on someones hard drive out there but i haven't seen them. then a blog appeared called iamthemodernprometheus.blogspot.com. some of those posts are still up but most are gone. that was ss/sss/shitsubou shita/frank (allegedly). ss started interacting in the comments on mayo's blog. and i think i may have read some mayo blog posts back in the day but i haven't been able to find them to answer this one. i just remember when i joined the fandom most people thought it was gerard.

now here's a couple things of evidence. THIS is a blogspot comment thread where people who have saved some of ss' blog posts put them in the comments. and yes obviously it could be an elaborate hoax by two fans who were invested in frerard. but like these things were being posted as it HAPPENED. you know? idk i wasnt there in 2007. but 2007 was when the fanfic took off and we really informed a lot of our perception of what happened with frerard on things like ft willz/stuff that happened on stage/and a lot of these posts really fit into the timeline. i would recommend reading that because its kind of hard to believe its like. a teenager pretending to be frank. it really just SOUNDS like frank. and he's really writing blog posts. basically to gerard lol. it gives the impression that they were on tour together (projekt rev) and doing the Thing but like there was def tension going on behind the scenes and we already know that thats true. frank didn't like eliza and thought gerard was moving too fast, the imnotokay.net post came from someone in mcr's camp that ppl thought was frank (or maybe brian) and then tbh its happening again?? just months later? it makes complete sense that if frank thought gerard was moving too fast with eliza that he DEFINITELY thought he was moving too fast with lynz getting MARRIED to her backstage just a couple months? after breaking off his engagement with eliza. anyway just read the comments. its very easy to believe its frank.

and then the other peice of evidece i found in this reddit thread: x comment in particular by u/ReallyKapu. they say that they have always gone by Kapunua online and that they met frank at a lm show, gave him a hat with the inscription 'sss' inside and later on he thanked them for it on the blog.

sure enough:

from what i've read it seems like the blog was actually a community. there were people who followed it and made friends in the comment section. and it does seem implausible but it looks to me like frank saved all of his gifts from tour and then made this post specifically thanking people for them. the person who claims this is them also says that they don't think mayo is actually gerard but that frank thought it was.

and i've seen stuff saying that if it wasn't gerard it was probably someone close to the band because they had like information that was posted on the blog that wouldn't come readily available (or make sense) until the show the next day.

anyway, i wasn't there for this. i was on the forums and twitter and tumblr for a LOT of mcr history but this was a little before my time and i think if i had been there OR if the blogs had actually been preserved in some way that i might be able to form a better opinion. i think theres a lot of evidence for frank, not sure about gerard. but i won't claim that it's true either bc we really don't know and this one i don't think we ever will!

[torahtot]

you can always tell when someone doesn't have maga men in their life and god it makes me angry.. "if you're nice and compassionate you can be the one woman that makes them realize women aren't mean!" my mom bent over backwards for my dad for 25 fucking years he has plenty of other women kissing his ass and it never changed anything. do you really think that before being radicalized they never knew a single kind woman? they were never friends with a nice girl? alt-right men's problem with women isn't just that they've experienced too many mean women and they need to be shown that women can be nice, it's that they think women are inferior and don't deserve rights and don't understand anything so you can do what you want with them. and it takes a lot more than being nice to show someone that you aren't inferior. this isn't a case of being nice even when it's hard for the sake of deradicalization, it's about spending every fucking interaction with someone trying to get them to see you as a human being with value and a functioning intellect while they just laugh and show you that's never going to happen.

i cannot stress this enough: random women are not just going out and Being Mean to men. ur average guy interacts with plenty of women throughout his life- close women amongst their friends and family, casual interactions etc. most people don't start out being shunned by women, they start out being treated as NORMAL. & when they show their disrespect in normal society, it isn't tolerated, but when they go to alt-right spaces (which they're pushed towards online) they're told they're allowed to be as horrible as they want with no consequences because they're entitled to everything. it isn't "women aren't welcoming and the alt-right is so friendly so i'll become alt-right," it's "women don't let me disrespect them and the alt-right tells me fuck them, do whatever you want, you're entitled to it all" and why would you choose the group where you have to be a normal accountable person when there's a group that will reward you for being a shithead who gives no fucks?

the alt-right can afford to be more friendly and welcoming because they can allow bigotry. this can't work the same way for progressive spaces because we can be as kind & welcoming as possible but at the end of the day we have lines where we have to say "this behavior/speech isn't allowed in this space," and for certain people, that just can't win against a space where you can be as nasty as you want. these posts always end with a disclaimer saying "of course being kind doesnt mean you need to tolerate their bigotries" but what they don't realize and what drives me crazy is that women not tolerating bigotry IS the "women are mean" that radicalized them in the first place. they perceive you pushing back on any bigotry or bullshit as you being a meanie and treating them like they're ontologically evil. the 'kindness' they need to be deradicalized is you letting them walk all over you.

idk what the answer is to deradicalizing them and im sure relationships are part of it but you can be as kind as you want and all it will do is destroy you ime. i cant stand to see people (who have never even successfully deradicalized any man by being nice btw they always speak in hypotheticals and not from experience) double down on telling women to do things that will see no results and only hurt them, especially when any woman who has tried can tell you exactly how it went

[sunglassesmish]

ngl. since lou seems to have been p active online up until he joined 911, and since he was already very familiar with the show, i think he went quiet because he knew/could predict that a segment of the fandom would not be great. i think he was just surprised by how bad it got.

honestly, that could be possible. in all his interviews right after 7x04 came out and in cameos too, he was like guys i know you love buddie and it’s great and all but like.. can we appreciate the story right now for a second? but i don’t think he realised just how bad some people in that fandom could get, and he’s probably not had much interaction with online fans since not many of his past shows/movies had such an active (and young) fanbase.

especially after buddie wasn’t happening and bucktommy was still going strong. i know most people saw bucktommy as something short and just a stepping stone for buddie, and then when it didn’t happen around 7x06 and after, it got a lot worse.

it’s kinda crazy that actors of love interests for buck and eddie both get harassed or disliked for the mere crime of being a love interest. and i think he may have known that going into this, and once it started getting worse he realised he had to step back.

[moss-selfship]

So i wanted to make a reply to this since im part of it and wanted to show my side since ive reblogged this a bunch but never actually explained stuff in case my followers havent read it (thats on me, alot of tumblr users dont like to read XD) I was the one who goldie asked to reach out to this person to apologize, as she understood that if she tried to reach out to them that would have stressed them out and she didnt want that. this is because despite repeated proof of her showing love and support to trans selfshippers and trans people, this user kept spreading awful rumors from things years ago (as well as a friendship with an awful person that goldie has repeatedly shown to me she regretted) and it basically chased her out of the selfship community, this having gone on for well over 2 years now. I reached out and conveyed there message, this user while not accepting the apology. promised me that they would stop reaching out to people and saying these things (something they had tried to do to me when i first was posting here after coming back from deleting my blogs, an entirely different situation). and as they were my friend at the time i believed them. they deleted the conversation after as it was a store spot to see. However, this instead continued and has continued since then. after this i had cut of all ties with this user and continued to support my friend goldie. Ive watched this tear her apart over the span of 2 years, watched it drive her to mental breakdowns, made her isolate and be too scared too interact with anyone online, and how they were too scared to talk about it, instead hoping if they just let it happen then it would stop eventually and that they wouldnt be chased off tumblr. and ive hated seeing this and how badly it effects them. me and goldie havent always have had our ups and downs in our friendship, we have had some really rough moments but time and time again despite our arguments we have continued to stay friends and i fully support them and they are my friend (one i talk with every day). and i will say that i believe they are a good person who (much like everyone) grows and learns as time goes on. people make mistakes, but years old mistakes that people learn from shouldnt be met with insults and alleging a person is some of the worst things possible.

In relation to this post:

I would just like to emphasize again that if we are mutuals, you can dm me for the url and I will share it with you.

And God, if it happens that this person contacts you, please come to me and ask me directly instead of just believing their insane fairytales.🙏

[thimbleb3rries]

Scrolling through my drafted posts is so funny because most of them are just tiny text posts that I don't end up actually posting because I've convinced myself that no one wants to see them???

I'm literally so dumb like

It's my blog and I don't have to use it to serve an imaginary audience????

I don't have to be funny or impressive all of the time I can literally just post whatevers on my mind and I'll be fine

It's Tumblr 😭 of all places I'm allowed to have a wacky digital footprint here or be as myself as I want to be

I really need to get out of my own head sometimes

[oh-meow-swirls]

i think this was funnier in my head.

[ninjautizm]

Sam!- i didn’t know you had tumblr 2! :O

I DO!!! Hello!! I also have a bluesky! Since people were moving over there from twitter, I made one in case twitter actually started crashing down and everyone was removing themselves from twitter!

I mainly shitpost about Ninjago on twitter, which I use to do on here as well but then I eventually got lazy 😭

[mbirnsings-71]

Hey gang- Who knew my first art post to get to 100+ notes would be my parkciv doodles?? Cause I didn't- and as of posting this my shadowgast drawing from 2022 (Which I still really love tbh) just got to 100 notes so like,,, that's wild- So I really have to say thank you to the people who have been reblogging it and liking it!! Also to the people who have been here liking and reblogging my art for a hot minute- You all are very appreciated and I hope you guys have fun with my posts!!

The posts in question I'm referring to for this:

parkciv one

Shadowgast one

[j-esbian]

i lost the post but i saw someone talking about how some of y’all act like being weird is a choice and like. YEAHHHHHHH.

that’s fine, it might be for you. but i just live like this and don’t know any other way. like yeah i’ve worked customer service, i can do innocuous small talk, but anything beyond that, i don’t understand what i’m missing. and it’s frustrating to see the tonal disconnect especially from people who are like “uwu embrace weirdness!!” where they’re like. dressing quirky and talking about bugs and listening to obscure music and eschewing small talk to ask Deep Questions on the first date and unlearning their tendency to not infodump. and generally have an idea of what Weirdness is supposed to look like. idk man some of us wake up and get out of bed and can’t figure out why the rest of their coworkers chitchat with each other but when they join the conversation it dies.

weirdness is value neutral. let’s stop trying to turn it into a badge because quite frankly, it’s not a choice for everyone. it’s fucking exhausting to never be on the same wavelength as other people and they’re going to react the way they do and label you the way they will without any conscious actions on your end. it’s difficult to talk about this without feeling like you’ll be dismissed as immature, a teenager whining “no one understands me” but the thing is. sometimes you don’t grow out of feeling alone and different, and there’s no good way to talk about it without feeling like people will think you’re just fishing for pity.

[animalsandskyyy]

I will forever stand by the thought that simply “being online” and consuming or even posting content, takes a completely different amount of energy than messaging or interacting with others online does.

but that’s something I had to train myself to acknowledge and learn. because it used to hurt and make me overthink when i’d message someone and they wouldn’t respond, but would still be active or posting. like I wouldn’t say that to them, but it overtook my thoughts.

then somehow I just stopped and realized- maybe they’re just tired. or maybe they’re scrolling on the phone in their 5 minutes of free time. maybe they’re in the middle of 3 conversations and are trying their best. maybe they’re in the middle of making a post and didn’t see your message. maybe they’re deep into searching a topic and can’t be distracted. or maybe they just don’t want to talk to you rn, and that’s perfectly okay and valid.

all that to say- it can still hurt sometimes, but giving people grace and thinking the best of them and their intentions, and sincerely hoping they do the same for you, makes life so much more enjoyable, and I highly recommend ♡

[first-blight]

. . . i'm too aro for this

[electricpurrs]

i dont know i made a post about this earlier today and then deleted it but yknow. im often up to getting defensive of being "chronically online" because i am by all means chronically online for reasons way beyond my control. i dont have any real life friends and i dont know any other queer people irl. all for reasons beyond my control and very much against my will. but man i think im still like. a normal person. as in not an unpleasant rude online discourse obsessed weirdo. like i think theres a way to be online a lot and be an okay person i think whatever those people have is something even worse

[vse-kar-vem]

weekly breakdown post 😁 none of you hate me right !

[deathxproof]

hm, out of all of the things I was expecting when I slowly started putting myself back in fandom spaces, “unresolved trauma from being an autistic kid/teen who was always perceived as Too Much” wasn’t on the list, to be quite honest.

[tasmanianstripes]

Sometimes I remember absolutely batshit insane discourse topics I saw when I was a teen and I am just. Amazed

Also, the fact that adults also said this just adds to the insanity tbh

[occidentaltourist]

The way Taylor Swift's online superfans are constantly infantilizing her, as though she isn't grown ass woman running a billion dollar empire with an excellent family support system and every resource at her fingertips; and inserting themselves into her relationship like he needs internet advice on how to be her boyfriend:

And all the petty infighting about Who's a More Correct and Better Fan and whose parasocial speculation about her innermost thoughts and feelings is the most correct interpretation and 200% true actually: