#is this syscourse? i dont think so
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i hate seeing parts language vilified. i saw a super funny meme where op put a disclaimer saying “i dont use “”””parts”””” language this is just for sillies!”
but people DO use parts language. parts language helped us get to a point where some parts could self elect the language they wanted to use for themself. parts language is not bad or icky and i hate seeing people treat it like it is.
#plural#system#sysblr#parts language#headmate#alter#parts#multiplicity#is this syscourse? i dont think so#maybe i will tag just in case#syscourse#origin’t#pro endo
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sometimes pro endos and anti endos should just. chill. interact. don't limit yourself to only interacting with people with morals that are 100% the same as yours. everyone's all "no one is perfect" until the imperfection is that they don't agree with you on something. like no actually flaws aren't just skills people aren't good at, they're also moral things
tl;dr just chatting with people who disagree with you is ok and not everything is about syscourse
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#sorry anon have to disagree#we as a system refuse to talk to people who actively deny the existence and experiences of others who dont fall into their view of them#if an anti-endo talks shit about mixed origin systems we wont bother talking to them#our spouse is mixed origin and at that point they're insulting someone close to us#so no as a pro-endo system i refuse to speak with anyone who invalidates and fakeclaims anyone who doesnt fit their narrow views#on who is a system or not#if i meet an anti-endo in real life and they spout of nonsense we will walk away from them#like you act as if this is easy to do#its not and will not be because anti-endos are directly hating others for existing#nope sorry cant see this ever happening#makes me think you're secretly an anti-endo because you left out how they are hateful to others they don't agree with#just look at their hateful ass tags#like “endos fuck off” “endos not for you” “endos aren't real”#also this post is not an ok for anti-endos to start spamming asks because we will delete them#so yeah no not happening#endo friendly#plural community#pluralgang#plurality#pluralpunk#pro endo#mixed origin system#traumaendo#endogenic safe#syscourse
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always offputting to me how much people (journalists, medical professionals) put focus on appearance and aesthetics when discussing things like self-diagnosed and "imitative" DID. like i feel like i see a lot of. idk. "people on tiktok who dress in colorful clothes while calling themselves systems..." "the DID patients i treat are different from those people online, who have dyed hair and do cosplays..."
& like, the validity of these ppl's claims of having DID is always in question when these traits are being brought up. it just feels like a weird attempt to create a distinction between Normal, Reasonable People and Those Attention-Seeking Liars Flaunting Their Blue Hair Online.
this permeates DID spaces too. lost track of how many times ive seen someone on r/DID lamenting how they have to share spaces with "those weirdos who use neopronouns" and how they just want to find "other NORMAL people with DID"
#imitative in scare quotes here bc i dont think theres a consensus among laypeople what that term means.#i just read an article that described imitative DID as 'a form of malingering'. so#abyssposting#syscourse
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I just find the argument that endos are making us look bad to singlets so annoying. Like newsflash we're gonna look bad anyways. the majority of psychologists don't even think trauma-based plurality is real. endos aren't helping or hurting our case they're literally just existing
#syscourse#it reminds me so much of the arguments against including nonbinary ppl under the trans umbrella#like actually i dont think abelists are gonna stop to ask your systems origin before fakeclaiming you#a psychologist that doesnt believe in DID isnt gonna care what ur origin is before they insist your plurality isnt real#like who gives a shit anymore#i dont care if endos make us look bad im too busy paying taxes and getting therapy to care
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i truly dont understand how people can do syscourse ALL THE TIME. no matter what side ur on. isnt it exhausting? arent you tired all the time? dont you…have better things to do?
#ur not ‘fighting for ur rights’ ur arguing with tumblr user the-hazbin-collective#<- NOT A REAL URL I DONT THINK I MADE IT UP#even reading like one post its fucking exhausting#im going to tag this as syscourse but dont misunderstand#this is not a post for people to come on to and bitch at me#im mainly tagging it so ppl can filter it if needbe#syscourse#cal.txt#okay to rb
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i can't help but wonder if there is indeed a large portion of endogenic systems who have no struggles whatsoever and glorify being a system,
or if they just chose to not showcase their struggles (understandable, no one should have to) and then onlookers just assume that they don't struggle because they don't talk about it.
#syscourse#ok to reblog#mello speaks#this kind of thing has happened to us in the past a few times#people thinking that we dont struggle because we dont publically talk about it.#got our trauma fakeclaimed once because of that.#so i just cant help but wonder.
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Contest to find the #1 syscourser - every single syscourse blog gets sent an anon ask that completely misunderstands and misinterprets their posts in completely bad faith, whichever one let's out the longest, loudest, most irritated sigh wins the award /j
- Dominic (He/Him)
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I don't feel like traumagenic and endogenic systems should be grouped together because when they are, people get a misunderstanding of how complex dissociative disorders are work and what being endogenic means.
I've realized the reason so many people use the term system is because of how they define it. Some people may define being a system as just having alters but if you define a system as being multiple people, then yeah, a lot of experts fall under the label!
Even if you don't necessarily have DID or OSDD, you can still have an experience similar to alters. Whether it's because of your cultural practices or other disorders that cause you to feel like multiple people, it can happen and it never felt right to me when people just balantly dismissed endogenic systems as being liars or role-players.
From interacting with the endogenic community though, a lot of them don't understand that alters or alternate identities are so intertwined with trauma. You cannot separate a system from it's trauma, not because the system formed from trauma but because that trauma effects every aspect of being a system. At least for OSDDID.
So you can see how if people try to separate the trauma from the system, that'd cause a lot of fuss. I wish mental health professionals would study the phenomenon of having multiple distinct identities because maybe it isn't always because of trauma. Maybe it can be because of something else.
That's just me speculating but I don't think we should say anyone is faking their experiences just because they haven't been scientifically researched. DID itself is so under-researched, I'd be surprise if other forms of plurality got any attention at all.
#this is just me thinking#syscourse#discourse twt#anti endo#pro endo#i dont wanna clog up any regular system tags with discourse so thats why im not tagging a lot#mineshaftss talks#y eah
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me following pro and anti endogenic (system) accounts because syscourse confuses me and i dont caare!! SHOW ME THE STIMBOARDS I CARE NOT FOR YOUR SILLY DISCOURSE!!!!
#i am entirely neutral.#like i dont care!! i am a system btw!!#and it just doesnt effect me. im sorru but i donot care#syscourse tw#system discourse#syscourse#endo means endometriosis to me#i simply. dont have the mental energy. im already traumatized and have cptsd so i just genuinely dont care#i have mutuals who are endos i think?? and theyre not harming me or spreading misinfo#and honestly i dont see why anyone cares. if people are spreading misinfo then i see why! but. ehh#gef's hauntings
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ohhh do not look at the gotdamn tags unless u wanna see me complaining about syscourse ^_^
#[will.]#discourse#no but rlly ermmm why is. syscourse a big deal ..........#sorry plurality will never fully be known in a way that makes 'sense'#the entire point of plurality is that its something we use to COPE#<- primarily with trauma yes but.#guys. you are not their doctor#do you think its ok 2 just. go around and be like 'ermm actually!!! i think you are simply Faking this ^_^'#..NO?? ITS NOT..........#WHAT A BIG SURPRISE U GUYS...#but like.#ok. even if we fully 'understood' plurality#?? who gives a FUCKKKK#WHOOOO CARESSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#WHO FUCKING CARES THAT SOMEONE IS EXPIERENCING PLURALITY DIFFERENT THAN YOU.#NOT ME. I DONT#you guys sound fucking wild when you say 'noo actually ermm all endos r faking. real not true not fake im being so truthful ^_^'#????? ARE YOU THEIR FUCKING BRAIN. ARE YOU. BE REAL WITH ME.
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there is a huge accessibility issue around pluralkit/simplyplural culture ive noticed. idk, i dont use a screenreader so maybe i am wrong, but the amount of special characters used for aesthetics seems like it would break screen readers.
i was briefly in a system server on discord that required everything to be screen reader friendly and i honestly did not realize just how much extra flair people put on their pluralkit/simply plural profiles that make it unusable with certain screen readers.
#idk just something ive noticed#i dont know any blind people atm personally and i am not blind myself#but i do remember the server making people redo their pluralkit descriptions so they’d be plaintext#plural#system#syscourse#i think this is syscourse#accessibility#if theres any vision impaired systems out there i would love to hear your thoughts#pluralkit#simply plural
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some of us have been tempted to make one of those uh, "culture" blogs like fictive culture or system culture to help others also dealing with stuff
and also help us out too realize we're not alone
but also i know we don't know what to go for and if we should even do that
#crow.txt#i dont know how much good itll do myself but you never know#i also think theres a blog for anything wed want to do anyway#plus uh#some system blogs list their syscourse stances and we dont for safety reasons#so thats a problem
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>sees someone talk about a safe system server thats very small
>joins because we have been wanting more friends online in spaces we enjoy and are trying to find nontoxic syscords
>immediately gets yelled and cursed at by a mod for asking a question and ? misunderstanding what something was or using the wrong word because its a subject we actively avoid due to heavy trauma association
#quake (he/it)#nuke txt (general)#this is kind of a vent sorry im just really upset#syscord#syscourse#not naming the server#its very small and i think full of younger people so i dont want anyone getting harrassed#im just upset#osdd did#anti endo#actually did#did#did community#did osdd#did system#syscource
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syscourse stuff in tags
#feel like im gonna get crucified for expressing opinions on syscourse but whatever#i dont think endo systems exist but not in the sense of#'this person is faking being a system and invading the space of actual systems'#more like 'supposedly endogenic systems are probably just traumagenic systems who dont understand/realize that theyre traumatized'#i feel like the definitions of trauma are far too rigid. ppl think it takes a lot to be traumatized but its honestly very little#like. i dont know concretely what traumatized me. i have one idea but even that doesnt cover all of how im traumatized#does that make me not traumatized? no! absolutely not!#i still experience symptoms of trauma as well as having several trauma disorders. and i feel like the same can be said for a lot of endos.#ignoring signs and symptoms of trauma in favor of being like 'well i dont remember being traumatized so i must not have trauma' is. Not Good#and i feel like a lot of endos miss out on opportunites to better themselves and heal from trauma bc theyre so set on not being traumagenic#anyway. thats my ramble.
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Just saw a sysmed with "no fakeclaiming (except for endos)" in their fucking pinned and I'm losing it. Like. Your just saying "dont be a bigot to me and the people i like. Be a bigot to the people i dont like instead" GIRL YOU CAN JUST NOT BE A BIGOT?
#tw syscourse#this is wild#not including the blog name cause its run by minors and i dont want them getting harassed#they will prob grow out of it once they stop being so chronically into online discourse#then again they were also antimspec lesbians and said only transmascs that arnt men can be lesbians which. is weird? like#do you think only pple w pussy can be lesbians? thats how it was reading
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why??? did you just??? copy prev's tags?? not even properly you just kinda. copied SOME and edited some others???
anti endos thinking they're punk. lol. lmao even.
#this blog is so funny to scroll. they think they're doing somtehing#also op's right but i dont really get the is/isn't punk thing#punk isnt about syscourse punk is a genre of music#you can connect it to syscourse but like... do any of yall actually care about punk stuff outside of syscourse
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