#is there even still a bg3 fandom
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lightningarmour Ā· 2 months ago
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has anyone made this joke yet
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muchtooold2 Ā· 10 months ago
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Iā€™ve recently discovered the part of the internet deeply devoted to defending Mystra in BG3 and I get sheā€™s a long standing lore character but it feels like we played a wildly different game.
And I just know in my heart of hearts that if Mystra were male and Gale were female I wouldnā€™t have to keep reading some variation of ā€œwell itā€™s fine she did nothing to stabilize a ticking time bomb in the chest that would have wiped out an entire city because it needs to feed on the weave despite no real evidence this actually hurts her at allā€ or ā€œactually itā€™s Galeā€™s fault he tried to return what he thought was part of her to her because he was an grown adult who should have known better despite the fact she did not tell him and he did not know it would have hurt her and is horrified to learn this in act 3.ā€ Like, this isnā€™t me woobifying him. I love Gale and know he can be self-absorbed, his ego is big, and if left unchecked his personality leads him to become the literal God of Ambition. But heā€™s not like a power hungry schemer. His ambition and desire for knowledge (things Mystra likes!) got the better of him and since he is also insecure he decided to try to do an ambitious thing and prove himself to a goddess. He knows and admits thatā€™s on him! But he (and players) are still allowed to be mad at the fact heā€™s kicked to the curb to maybe blow up a city to learn a lesson Mystra does not bother explaining until sheā€™s literally forced to because he did not kill himself on her command. And people are allowed to find their relationship wildly inappropriate and toxic and abusive because based on the game you play, it is.
I donā€™t think itā€™s bonkers to say that in this situation, Mystraā€”a literal goddess who met Gale when he was probably somewhere between 17-22 years oldā€”was wrong to have a relationship with him, that it was a toxic and abusive one and that is on her as the entity with more power in every way, that she was petty for letting him languish for a year and being willing to potentially let him kill a whole city while he was trying not to die by eating magic shoes, and that telling him to kill himself is a dick move. And people are like ā€œwell according to DnD lore sheā€™s just protecting herself and she was only resurrected after he was a teenā€ are doubly annoying because bg3 doesnā€™t give a shit about the canon timeline considering Durge would be likeā€¦10 if they cared.
And I know it sucks if you like love Mystra in DnD lore and this doesnā€™t align with her or whatever but bg3ā€™s themes of ā€œhurt people hurt peopleā€ and ā€œpower over others is something easily abused if youā€™re carelessā€ also applies to Mystra. With the sort of exception of SelĆ»ne, the game also feels pretty clear on the idea that gods Do Not and Cannot Care About You. The game you play is showing a toxic relationship (and I will say she is not as bad as some people say she is, like she is a goddess operating with some blue-orange morality) and if the genders were flipped we would not be having this discourse.
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generaltulip Ā· 10 months ago
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Someone calling dragonborn x human bestiality in a game like BG3 is justā€¦ fuckinā€™ wild and bizarre to me. Thereā€™s elves, aliens, devils, tieflings, and illithids all that youā€™re able to romance/have sex with but lets draw the line at Dragonborns?? Theyā€™re not animals, thatā€™s a whole ass person with a job, emotions, and personality. Fuck they even talk like a British dude but you draw the line because theyā€™re a dragon man?
Halsin fucks as a whole ass bear, you can fuck a squid man, and a lady devil but Dragonborns? Thatā€™s somehow too weird??? Just say youā€™re boring and judgemental and be on your way because Iā€™m gonna keep shipping my DB with Gortie with no goddamn guilt or shame in sight.
Also a quick note and a friendly tip: you can dislike Durgetash without trying to villainize people who like the dragonborn x human ship. You can dislike durgetash without trying to villainize people in general. I donā€™t personally ship it, but I 100% can see the appeal and Iā€™m sure as hell am never gonna shit on it because Iā€™m not an asshole bent on ruining other peoples fun. Not to mention the people who do ship it have been some of the nicest and the most welcoming that Iā€™ve had the pleasure of interacting with.
Some of yaā€™ll just need to learn to dislike something without putting others down. Youā€™re not in a vacuum, be nice to each other and get along, because trust me, itā€™s a whole lot more fun when you do.
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flashhwing Ā· 5 months ago
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Iā€™m here to say that you may absolutely express negativity about veilguard to me as long as itā€™s not stupid. hate on it for real reasons, of which there are plenty, most of which Iā€™m ignoring because of the hype but would be glad to discuss in a civilized manner. no forced positivity in this zone this is a safe space. unless your criticism is dumb as fuck then I will point and laugh
#sorry people have been posting about how bad the ~discourse~ is#about everything under the sun#and Iā€™m starting to think that people are really just classifying like#ā€˜oh this guy has a different opinion than meā€™ as discourse#like. hm. hereā€™s an example from the latest and greatest#some people think a certain ending for Astarion is better than the others#they are entitled to that opinion! you are entitled to dksageee!#nobody is attacking you for your preference#even if someone says on their blog ā€˜oh if you donā€™t put blorbo bleebus through the bingly bop ritual youā€™re not a real fanā€™ thatā€™s still#not a personal attack! thatā€™s just someone Having Thoughts on their own blog#sorry Iā€™m just. sigh#you canā€™t post any analysis of the actual climactic event in dragon age 2 anymore without it being labeled discourse#and I think. hereā€™s my contribution to the discourse#you all are so obsessed with Avoiding Discourse that youā€™re not letting yourself feel the joy of getting stupidly invested in media#anyway. arenā€™t you tired of being nice. donā€™t you wanna go apeshit#ugh sigh DISCLAIMER because this is tumblr and you have to over explain lest someone take you in the worst possible faith#I am WELL AWARE of people who do actually like attack people and make online space hell for the differing opinions#tis why I specified people talking about their takes *on their own blog*#I am also WELL AWARE of pervasive issues in fandom. namely racism. Iā€™m talking about racism and looking directly at the way bg3 fandom#treats and talks about wyll. and the way they treat black fans who rightfully call that shit out#racism isnā€™t discourse. itā€™s racism#talking about racism isnā€™t discourse. donā€™t devalue the conversation like that#disclaimers over. I stand by what I said#this is a safe space to have opinions. even if I disagree. unless what youā€™re saying is really stupid#donā€™t fish for reasons to be a hater. haterism should come naturally or not at all#this has been a post
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minrathousrain Ā· 1 year ago
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It's actually insane that a modded scene of Wyll's dance with Astarion instead of him has comments like "omg he is so romantic, he would totally do that šŸ˜"
... Sure. How about you actually play Wyll's romance and see if he is still sooo boring instead of replacing everyone with "Asty" and stealing their personalities
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unreadpoppy Ā· 2 months ago
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i've seen too many people talking about the bg3 fandom dying within the a year and i do have to ask...have y'all never been in another fandom before???
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gallows-into-oblivion Ā· 2 months ago
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the extremely mild annoyance of discovering that i have forgotten to mute one of the veilguard tags by having veilguard fanart reblogged onto my dash
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chocolatecatcupcakecheese Ā· 10 months ago
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Tagging this with the fandom critical tag just to be safe but. I appreciate everyone who offered kind words not just to me but to each other yesterday.
Weā€™re a community. Itā€™s good to look up and remember just how many people are quietly doing their own thing alongside me.
I felt a bit guilty for adding notes to what in hindsight was just inflammatory hatred. I wonder if giving them attention didnā€™t just inspire them to be louder in their unkindness. But after hearing how friends, mutuals, and strangers were upset over the post in question? Worth the BS. OC fic writers get so much shit already. We should stick together, not ridicule and beat each other down.
I emulated their flippant tone as I offered my rebuttal. But genuinely, I do love your Tavs and Durgesā€” because even if I personally donā€™t enjoy a story someone is telling, I still know how difficult it is to tell it and how brave it is to share it where strangers can see.
I love that youā€™re creating.
I have a lot of opinions about what makes good writing. More opinions than that person, even. Iā€™m critical of my own work and Iā€™m critical of othersā€™ in turn. But at the end of the day, putting love into the world is more important. And thatā€™s what the connections of social media are meant to foster for fandom. Shared love.
So fuck Enver Gortash ( Ķ”Ā° ĶœŹ– Ķ”Ā°) And do it how you want. Love from me to you šŸ’ž
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seradyn Ā· 1 year ago
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I love getting bullied out of a fandom :)
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mercymaker Ā· 10 months ago
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sometimes i read some takes on this website and just think 'it's not that deep'
like.. people are SO quick to jump to conclusions about other people, it's wild
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ofwraithsandwords Ā· 7 months ago
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The bad thing about large fandoms is that if you come to dislike a ship thatā€™s popular, you essentially canā€™t escape it no matter how much you try.
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transkingcobra Ā· 3 months ago
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When you realize youā€™ve never actually looked up a favorite pairing for an old game because you just didnā€™t get into fandom back then
Only to find out it doesnā€™t exist at all
Cri
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loderlied Ā· 11 months ago
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posting on here is like my sisyphean boulder i'm constantly rolling tbh
#god i am trying so hard to just have fun and be myself#but when i do that i'm immediately a strange outsider creep#and since i can't really mask my version of masking is just not talking and then obviously you donā€™t find any joy in fandom spaces either#i will always be a shitty unlikable freak no matter how much i pretend otherwise. it was obvious from the start that getting involved in#fandom spaces was a fucking mistake. it's always a mistake because you're some laughing stock at best and a horrifying freak at worst#i don't blame people for not liking me i've realised what an awful person i am long ago#but it's always so hard witnessing something like fun social groups from the sidelines knowing you'll never be a part of it#this is why my mental state has been deteriorating so severely in the last few months. that Realisation once again nothing fucking changed#i know it's stupid to get so upset over fandom but it's only a pattern for me#i stopped trying to be friends with people when i was a teenager because it hasn't worked a single time#this attempt at integrating myself into the wotr and bg3 fandom by sharing my shit was just one mistake#gortash/zeke is so different from anybody elseā€™s work and i wish i could find joy in something that it isnā€™t fucking deranged but i canā€™t#like yes itā€™s just fandom bullshit! gortash/zeke is a fucking oc x canon ship! why am i getting so upset over it!#i love writing them. iā€™ve never been this happy writing anything. and itā€™s entirely indicative of a common pattern in my life#when i earnestly share parts of myself/things iā€™m passionate about people get creeped out. and honestly? rightfully so#i would leave the discord servers iā€™m in because itā€™s fucking crushing me dude. this is so petty but iā€™m so jealous of what you people have#but in one i am server owner and i donā€™t want to just dump that responsibility onto someone else and then dip#and in the other two iā€™m not sure anyone would even notice that iā€™m gone but i still worry about being rude#though iā€™m not entirely sure i didnā€™t get invited to one of those just so people could laugh at me. idk probably just being paranoid but i#itā€™s been gnawing at me#ok no if iā€™m being this vulnerable on tunglr.com i can also say that part of me staying is also still having the hope that i could fit in#one day. logically i know it wonā€™t happen but itā€™s nice to have hope sometimes#watching you all from through the window having fun like a creep#so yeah. iā€™ve always felt like this but itā€™s been rapidly getting worse with my failed attempt at the bg3 fandom#idk just been crying non-stop for the last few hours. went through an entire pack of tissues in an hour itā€™s very disgusting#theyā€™re all lying around me as iā€™m typing this like a pillowfort of snot lmao#so yeah. idk. if someone could come over and lobotomise me thatā€™d be nice. orin where are you when we need you most#i never had any friends irl so i foolishly gave this a shot. iā€™m sorry#also doesnā€™t help that i can see someone dropping me for people that are easier to be around in irl rn#it just hurts because itā€™s always like that. someone you are around when you have no other option at best. not even that sometimes
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bogunicorn Ā· 9 months ago
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how are we not all collectively past thinking it's ever acceptable to tell people to kill themselves over video game characters
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gaylittleguys Ā· 6 months ago
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itā€™s actually so fucked up and evil that random white npcs from bg3 that show up twice got more dedicated fans than Wyll
#racist fans will do anything to avoid actually engaging with a black character#like. no offense to normal people who like some of the fun npcs#thereā€™s a lot of them! I love all the detail put into the npcs!#but.#HUGE but#itā€™s weird right that there was more fandom about background guys than one of the major characters#and then people would go ā€˜ohhh but wyll doesnā€™t rly have any content :/ā€˜#like guy whoā€™s there for like 3 scenes max could possibly ever have more depth than A MAJOR CHARACTER#Iā€™m not even excusing it as oohhhh but people want hot tiefling characters bc WYLL#I will defend Wyll to the death#if thereā€™s no Wyll defenders I have died#if Wyll has a million fans Iā€™m one of them. if Wyll has 5 fans Iā€™m one of them. if Wyll has 1 fan that 1 is me.#like yeahhhhg Larian did him dirty with his storyline and fucked up that he was hours less content than other origin characters#Iā€™m not excusing that thatā€™s awful too#but like. idk if you say Wyll is boring while hyping up white npc no.324 Iā€™ll kill you#heā€™s funnyyyy and cool and kind and I like him#.doc#what everrrrr#Iā€™m hoping the bg3 has calmed down a little I donā€™t wish to be crucified for this but it shouldnā€™t be a controversial opinion#boring bg3 fans would throw up if theyā€™d see the shit I think about these characters#Larian let me have a go Iā€™ve got good ideas for his story#sucks that Wylls arc revolves so much around other people#I still think it would have been soo interesting to explore his ideals/alignment leading him astray like his misconceptions about karlach#like a whole if he belives what heā€™s doing is for good but itā€™s not where does that leave him how would he feel about that#whateverrrrrr#wyll my best friend wyll#my beloved
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master-gatherer Ā· 6 months ago
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I have reread what I wrote
It's not terrible
I'm still not happy with it šŸ˜
I may still be too close to it
Does anyone want to volunteer to beta šŸ˜¬ (mutuals only)
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