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wtchgrrl · 1 month ago
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i swear to god i fuckin hate being an intersex horror fan sometimes
like. you’re telling me that most of us were literally split open before we were given names yet the only “intersex horror” people seem to think of is “ewww this monster has a penis AND a vagina!!!!”? im gonna hurt someone
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Poem I found during my research that has nothing to do with the topic I'm researching but I thought would be nice to share:
Intersex Babies
The intersex babies born every day
Doctors want to mutilate, we say nay
Just boy or girl is what they're trying to sow
That fucked up binary has got to go
'cause male female or in-between
It all works out just let us be
Cuz we want long clits and short dicks and xxyy
Medical associations ain't got no alibi
Everyone deserves a choice especially the children
We demand a world free of forced genital mutilation
That means no circumcision no cosmetic surgery no clitorectomy no vaginoplasty
Just let the babies be
Foreskin is there for a reason! erectile tissue is there for a reason! mutation is here for a reason!
It's called ... Evolution!
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llyfrenfys · 1 year ago
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Diwrnod Coffa Rhyngryw / Intersex Day of Remembrance
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Diwrnod Coffa Rhyngryw / Intersex Day of Remembrance
Mae Diwrnod Coffa Rhyngryw yn ddiwrnod i gofio pobl ryngryw sy'n cael llawdriniaeth heb ganiatâd. Mae plant rhyngryw yn aml yn cael llawdriniaeth yn ifanc. Mae hwn yn broblem fawr sr gyfer y gymuned ryngryw ac mae llawer o bobl yn erbyn anffurfio organau cenhedlu rhyngryw.
Am fwy o wybodaeth a chefnogaeth, gweler Organisation Intersex International.
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Intersex Day of Remembrance is a day to remember intersex people who have undergone surgery without their consent. Intersex children frequently have surgeries performed on them at a young age. This is a big problem for the intersex community and many people are opposed to the practice of intersex genital mutilation.
For more information and support, see Organization Intersex International.
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lestcat-de-lioncourt · 2 years ago
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It makes me fed up that certain people are still like Nope about intersex people and promote intersexphobia, and are that way, yet are fully onboard for identifying as they/them, non-binary, etc. I mean I get why, it’s simple genitalia hatred/judgment. Same with transition surgery of any kind, usually focusing on downstairs once again. What’s the deal? Likewise people behave like there’s no such thing as toys to the moon and back, which are getting more and more realistic which are absolutely amazing for trans people to use which may not be able to afford surgery yet that everyone expects trans people to drop £50,000 as soon as a person comes out whilst also saying don’t come out. Barely anyone but intersex people seem to talk about the topic of intersex, except the people who try and force intersex people into whatever they want intersex people at birth. A child. A baby. Yet people go on about their hatred of letting kids be trans or even take puberty blockers yet support fully altering a babies sex themselves at birth to “be more cis”. People like that are so disturbed yet they have the audacity to be anti LGBT+, what, being happy? Give me a break.
There’s actually a lot of the community that get swept under the carpet even by other LGBTQIA+ people.
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heartgold · 6 months ago
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I think a lot about the way polydactyly is described in umineko ep1 because of the emphasis on the surgery to remove the extra digit often being done in early infancy (therefore without consent), with the intent of making the person "normal" while they grow up not even knowing about it...
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of course this hints at sayo having her extra toe removed to hide her relation to kinzo, but I can't help but think about how it's specifically described in a way that evokes infant genital mutilation, especially considering sayo's backstory. all of her character reads like an allegory for intersex experiences imo, which also adds to her trans narrative. a major source of her suffering lies in how her gender struggles were complicated further by the reveal that her body was operated on without her knowledge, which led to sexual dysfunction and infertility.
the narration talks about the polydactyly surgery and reiterates the topic of bodily autonomy (already a big topic in umineko's first episode with the discussion of reproductive commodification of women's bodies) by mentioning how infants can be operated on to "fix" a part of their bodies to fit the idea of what "normal bodies" are like. the parallel to the mutilation of intersex bodies is very obvious to me. in sayo's case it was done as treatment for physical injuries rather than a literal intersex condition, but the narrative centering the violation of her autonomy persists with how she has her body altered and is denied the truth, having never had any means to cope with the inherent trauma of it all because the priority of genji&co was always to cover up anything that could implicate kinzo. she gets everything on her birth records falsified and she is intentionally kept in the dark about her own life. her entire personhood is erased. again drawing parallels to intersex experiences, doctors and parents will lie about it your entire life if they can get away with it. it's not uncommon to only find out you were operated on and/or forced on hrt as an adult!
even umineko's overarching theme about the nuances of truth vs magic can be read as an intersex narrative... it's a common experience to find out you were being denied your truth and made to live a lie "for your own sake". that truth may be unrecoverable and kept from you forever and all you can do is grieve it. your body is made into a catbox. I don't want to get too personal but some parts of confessions were chilling to read because of how similar they were to my experiences as an intersex person and I had never seen these very specific things portrayed anywhere. of course I can't claim to know the authorial intent, but it hit hard even as an allegory.
intersex and trans struggles aren't 1:1 the same but they have a lot of overlap, especially in regards to bodily autonomy, medical abuse and the gender assignment of bodies upholding a strict binary. trans people are denied transition while intersex people are forced through it, so a character like sayo who portrays that intersection of being both with such care is very precious. her struggles are strongly rooted in transmisogyny, intersexism, class and family, all which had her systemically disempowered, dehumanized and stripped of autonomy and agency.
her actions are a desperate gambit to gain some control over her own life, to be in charge of the narrative even if it's through selfdestruction. the horrors in umineko converge into the theme of systemic powerlessness and denial of autonomy. to be made into a piece. all of it combined makes up the multilayered meaning of furniture.
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lycandrophile · 1 year ago
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as an intersex woman- it'd be real nice if these people stopped throwing around the word "mutilation" and ignoring IGM (which is still practiced en mass even in "first world" countries) and our lack of bodily autonomy. a trans person (or even a cis person getting elective reconstructive surgery for a myriad of reasons, including IGM) getting bottom surgery is in no way comparable to actual mutilation against your will and it's such a slap in the face to see these people bitch about it while ignoring us. our medical records are literally hidden, destroyed, and altered for the sake of non-intersex people never having to contend with the reality of sex variations.
I bet they'd probably look at the stats on Intersex human rights and try to justify it away though, they sound like the types who want Intersex people to fit into their two perfect sex and gender boxes and never complain! thank you for not backing down, muddying the waters on mutilation- while the intersex community is still trying to fight to get IGM recognized and banned- harms IGM victims worldwide and disgusts me to my core.
Not to mention how many recent american bills banning or limiting elective trans surgeries conveniently still allow for IGM and the pushing of hormones on intersex children and adults who don't need them (again for the comfort of non-intersex people and the assumption we must be "fixed"...) very convenient for these people to ignore!
all of this! these people will act like the “western world” was totally against genital mutilation practices until the big bad trans people came along, when in reality it’s been happening right here at home the whole time.
the only reason they don’t see it (or at least act like they don’t see it) is because of intersexism and racism — intersexism that tells them that whatever’s being done to intersex people must be beneficial and medically sound because of course intersex traits should be “fixed”, and racism that validates their belief that the things happening where they live must be better than what’s happening “over there” because of course there are more human rights abuses happening in non-western places than in their good progressive home.
fearmongering about anything that changes the clitoris or vulva in any way being a form of FGM + downplaying the harms of IGM and saying it’s just good medicine = the perfect way to uphold their precious pseudoscientific sex binary for another day, i guess. as long as we’re all living with the genitals they think we should have, they don’t care who it hurts.
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tampon-eater · 1 year ago
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ALSO!!!!! THERE ARE MINORS UNDER 16 OR SO GETTING NONCONSENSUAL SURGERY ON THEIR GENITALS!!!!! BABIES, MOSTLY!!!!!! BUT THOSE MINORS ARE NOT TRANS-IDENTIFYING KIDS! AND THOSE SURGEONS ARE NOT THE EVIL TRANS GROOMERS™️!!!! THEY ARE INTERSEX CHILDREN GETTING THEIR GENITALS DANGEROUSLY MUTILATED WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT BY CIS PEOPLE SO WE CAN PRETEND THE GENDER AND SEX BINARIES EXIST!!!!!!!
i need well meaning cis people to stop attemping to steelman trans healthcare conversations because it basically always ends with them just lying about easily checkable things "no minors are getting irreversible treatments" wrong not true "no minors are having surgery" also false, like instead just say the truth: currently some minors (few, but some) are able to access hrt that will have some irreversible changes on their body, some (even fewer) minors are able to access surgery.
the counter to transphobes screaming "these kids are being irreversibly changed" isn't "no children are accessing this care" it's "puberty is also an irreversible change" and "i think under 18s and even under 16s should be able to make medical decisions actually"
"no minors are accessing this care" means that transphobes can easily point to the examples of minors who are accessing that care, which just make us look like liar. sometimes teenagers and children need to make medical choices on their own. i think a 14 y/o should be able to get an abortion. i think trans kids and teens should be able to have the approriate care, which for some will just be like, picking a new name or haircut, and for some, sure, could be surgery.
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butchdykekondraki · 7 months ago
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when i mention intersexuality being brought up as an afterthought or gotcha i implore you to think about the way that everyone talks about it. its only ever brought up in discussions of genderfluidity or when talking about being non-binary, both things that (while common in the intersex community) are not fully related to intersexuality. it's just treated as some type of third gender, when in reality intersexuality has been medically prosecuted against (to the point of actual literal genital mutilation to make intersex children perisex/"normal"). it's never really spoken about, just mentioned briefly
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identitty-dickruption · 9 months ago
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hey dyadic people. you do know you're allowed to NOT mention genitals in the notes EVERY single post about being intersex/intersexism, right?
you do not need to bring up genital mutilation when a post is talking about a completely different form of intersexism. you do not need to bring up how fascinating our bodies are when a post is about intersex positivity. you do not need to ask intersex strangers what their genitals are. you do not need to do this shit
please. I am begging you. see intersex people as more than our genitals. see intersex people as more than our medical trauma. obviously genital differences and medical traumas are real parts of the intersex experience, but it cannot be the only context you can ever bring yourself to see us in. see us as real human beings
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lokiinmediasideblog · 1 month ago
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So some months ago, I was minding my own business and encountered the following joke:
"Do not destroy that twink I have needs for his conniving eunuch ways."
I was like "this is loki-coded " and tagged it as loki. And then it kept haunting me...
as of now, I'm having unbidden thoughts that are all a variation of "Loki is a prince whose kingdom thinks of as a royal advisor rather than a heir." Lots of people in fandom that think of the brodinsons as platonic speculate and are even convinced that Loki was meant to be Thor's advisor after Thor took the throne. The following excerpt is from the Thor (2011) script. Why are they counting on their spare/supposedly younger son to reign in the heir to the throne? Why do they act like he'll always be at Thor's beck and call to provide advice? (It's also why I vehemently disagree with parentified!Thor HCs, but this is not the place for that rant...)
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What's interesting is that it's a very common position/occupation for queer-coded villains in fantasy/monarchy settings. The royal advisor role is often associated with eunuchs who came from poor backgrounds and were coerced/forced into being mutilated and this dynamic is present with loki in a rather subtle way that is framed as merciful (loki was from a ravaged realm and his birthright was to die; he was found in a war zone).
Additionally, there is quite a lot of fic(some of rather questionable taste) that focuses on Loki's unusual alien "parts". Sometimes his alien parts in fic resemble intersex conditions or he happens to have both perfectly functioning and proportional sets of binary genitalia simultaneously. Regardless, in both of these cases, his genitals don't fall under the typical binary.
There's also fic where Odin changes Loki into an Asgardian form with genitalia that conform to the binary, but Loki discovers this was not the case in his Jotun form... Doesn't this have implications of intersexist medical sexual abuse?
not to mention, there is cannon genital torture in the series… and i went like "huh, this is surprisingly myth-accurate. what an odd choice..."
Genital injury(but it was Loki's idea; were they attempting to improvise an orchidectomy or did they not care bc shapeshifting heals them and or their balls are ridiculously durable?) is also present in the myths when Loki attaches their testes goat's beard to make Skadi laugh... It's noted as one of the events in which Loki "loses status" due to the emasculation they showcased in front of the rest of the Aesir.
I went in detail in the MCU!Sif=Sif + Skadi post I made some time ago where I cite Lindow mentioning that in for the Norse castration was a punishment associated with slaves...
I'm not saying that he is a eunuch, but there is coding. Probably because a lot of queer-coding may be based on perceptions (unfair) of eunuchs in royal courts.
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dhddmods · 5 months ago
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Sex Alteration Guide (Bottom Surgery, Top Surgery, & Beyond!)
Hello! Just wanted to share our compiled list of sex alterations that can be performed. Thought it might be interesting for people who want to know.
If you want to learn about intersex types, we recommend reading our post here! And reblog it, please, to share awareness on intersex topics!
Trigger warning for mentions of genital mutilations on children, sexual activity, and sexual assault.
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Tracheal Shave: A procedure to shave down an Adam's Apple. This is done for aesthetic/personal reasons, or chosen by transfeminine, non-binary, altersex, or intersex people that were unhappy with their Adam's Apple.
Feminizing Laryngyoplasty: A procedure to shave the voice box, reducing the size of the Adam's Apple and increasing the pitch of the voice. This is chosen by transfeminine, non-binary, altersex, or intersex people that were unhappy with their voice, and elected for a permanent change instead of vocal practice.
Breast Lift/Mastopexy: A procedure to lift sagging breasts. This is done for aesthetic/personal reasons by people that were unhappy with their breasts.
Breast Augmentation: A procedure to (re)create breasts or reshape/increase the size of breasts, using implants or fat transplants from the thigh, buttocks, or abdomen. This is either done after a breast has been damaged/removed, for people with amastia or tubular breasts, or for aesthetic personal reasons by people that were unhappy with their breasts. It may also be chosen by transfeminine, non-binary, altersex, or intersex people that were unhappy with their chest. It can also be done to create extra breasts if desired.
Breast Reduction: A procedure to reduce the size of a breast. This is done for aesthetic/personal reasons, due to injury/damage, or to reduce the weight of large breasts. It may also be chosen by cis-men with gynecomastia, and transmasculine, non-binary, altersex, or intersex people that were unhappy with their breasts.
Mastectomy: A procedure to remove a breast. This is done for aesthetic/personal reasons, due to injury/damage, or chosen by people with accessory breasts that wish to have the spare breasts removed. It may also be chosen by cis-men with gynecomastia, and transmasculine, non-binary, altersex, or intersex people that were unhappy with their breasts.
Areola Reduction: A procedure to reduce the size of the areola. This is done for aesthetic/personal reasons by people that were unhappy with their areola size. It could be reduction of the size they were born with/developed during puberty, a reduction after pregnancy and/or breastfeeding caused nipple stretching, or it could be done to someone who had nipple (re)construction and were unhappy with the size the surgeon created.
Nipple Reduction: A procedure to reduce the size of a nipple. This is done for aesthetic/personal reasons by people that were unhappy with their nipple size. It could be a reduction of the size they were born with, a reduction after long-term breastfeeding caused nipple stretching, or it could be done to someone who had nipple (re)construction and was unhappy with the size the surgeon created.
Nipple Excision: A procedure to remove a nipple. This is done for aesthetic/personal reasons, due to injury/damage, or chosen by people with accessory nipples that wish to have the spare nipples removed. It may also chosen by transgender, altersex, or intersex people that were unhappy with their nipples.
Nipple (Re)construction: A procedure to create or recreate a nipple, using the skin from the chest, abdomen, inner thigh, buttocks, or (if present) previously existing nipples. This is either done after a nipple has been damaged/removed, for people born with athelia, or for those unhappy with inverted nipples. It can also be done to create extra nipples for aesthetic/personal reasons, or for non-binary or altersex people that wished for their body to have a specific appearance. When created from scratch, tattoos can be given for pigmentation of the nipple.
Vastectomy: A procedure to snip the vas deferens, in order to prevent the release of sperm (or eggs, in some cases of ovotestes.) This is done as a form of birth control, and can sometimes be reversible.
Tubal Ligation: A procedure to tie or snip the fallopian tubes, in order to prevent eggs from being fertilized (or sperm from being released, in some cases of ovotestes.) This is done as a form of birth control, and can sometimes be reversible.
Salpingectomy: A procedure to remove a fallopian tube. This could be done due to injury/damage or as a form of birth control.
Orchiopexy: A procedure done to move an undescended testicle into the scrotum. It is done on intersex people as a way to prevent testicular cancer, preserve fertility, and/or prevent inguinal hernias. It is one of the few intersex surgeries that are acceptable to do on infants.
Gonadectomy: A procedure done to remove a gonad (ovary, teste, or ovoteste.) When done to an ovary, it is known as an Oophorectomy. When done to a testicle, it is known as an Orchiectomy. This is done due to injury/damage or as a form of birth control. It may also be chosen by transgender, altersex, or intersex people that were unhappy with their gonads.
Hysterectomy: A procedure to remove the uterus. This could be done due to injury/damage, as a form of birth control, to stop painful menstruation, or to stop a uterus prolapse. It may also be chosen by transmasculine, non-binary, altersex, or intersex people that have no desire for a uterus, or have a uterus incompatible with pregnancy.
Trachelectomy: A procedure to remove a cervix. This is done due to injury/damage, a deformed cervix, to remove a hypoplastic cervix that does not release menstruation efficiently, or to remove a second cervix in cervical duplication.
Cervical (Re)construction: A procedure to create or recreate a cervix. This is either done after a cervix has been damaged, or for intersex people with cervical agenesis or cervical hypoplasia (to prevent menstrual fluids from getting trapped inside and/or to allow for easier pregnancy.)
Hysteroplasty/Uteroplasty/Metroplasty: A procedure done to those with a bicornuate uterus, septate uterus, or uterus didelphys to merge both sides/remove any blockage between them. This is done to lower risk of miscarriage and premature birth.
Prostatectomy: A procedure done to remove the prostate. This is done due to injury/damage.
Penis Splitting: A procedure done to split the penis (or ambiguous genitalia that has a penis-like structure) open. It could be done for aesthetic/personal reasons, for additional sexual enjoyment, or to assist with urination in those with a shallow, blocked, or absent urethra. It may also be chosen by trans-women & non-binary, altersex, or intersex people that were unhappy with their penis.
It is also explored as a cultural practice in some Australian, Africa, South American, and Oceanic locations.
Meatotomy: When only the urethral area of the glans is split open.
Subincision: When only the underside of the penis is split open, but the top-side is left closed. This split can give the penis a labia-like appearance, and allow for easier time with sex toys that do urethral penetration. This could be only on the glans or down to the shaft.
Genital Bisection: When the penis is split open completely. This could be only on the glans or down to the shaft.
Perineal Urethrostomy: A procedure done to open a urethra beneath the penis, on the perineum. It could be done for aesthetic/personal reasons or to assist with urination in those with a shallow, blocked, or absent urethra. It may also be chosen by transfeminine, non-binary, altersex, or intersex people that were unhappy with the placement of their urethra.
Urethroplasty: A procedure to create or repair a urethra. This could be done due to injury/damage, because of urethral blockage or an tight urethra, chosen by those with metoidioplasties/phalloplasties or vulvoplasities, or chosen by intersex people with urethral traits. For intersex people with urethral agenesis, it is necessary for urination.
Circumcision: A procedure to remove the foreskin. This could be done for aesthetic/personal reasons, due to injury/damage, or to assist with urination and hygiene if urine was consistently trapped in the foreskin. It is also done as a cultural practice in several African and Oceanic cultures, as well as a religious practice for Jews, Muslims, some Christians/Catholics, and a couple smaller Abrahamic religions.
Dorsal Slits: A procedure to remove a piece of the foreskin, leaving a slit on the upperside of the penis that exposes the urethra on the glans. This could be done for aesthetic/personal reasons or to assist with urination and hygiene if urine was consistently trapped in the foreskin. It is also explored as a cultural practice by some Filipinos and Pacific Islanders. A Ventril Slit is the same, but on the bottomside of the penis.
Prepuitioplasty: A procedure similar to a dorsal slit, except the top of the foreskin isn't cut, and after the slit is removed, the foreskin is sewn back together. It is done to make the foreskin looser, to treat those with phimosis (foreskin that will not retract).
Hoodectomy: A procedure to remove part or all of the clitoral hood, or to reduce its size. This could be done for aesthetic/personal reasons (for example, someone with a long clitoral hood may choose to reduce its size) or due to injury/damage. It may also be done as a form of circumcision or dorsal slits for transmasculine, non-binary, altersex, or intersex people who wish to indulge in those practices.
Labiaplasty: A procedure to remove, reduce, or create labia (usually the labia minora, but this could apply to the labia majora too.) This could be done for aesthetic/personal reasons (for example, someone with labial hypertrophy or stretched labia may choose to reduce its size) or due to injury/damage. It may also be chosen to create labia for transfeminine, non-binary, altersex, or intersex people that wished for more neutral/feminine genitals, or alternatively to remove labia for transmasculine, non-binary, altersex, or intersex people that wish for more neutral/masculine genitals.
Labia Stretching: A procedure to stretch out the labia minora, gradually increasing its length. This could be done for aesthetic/personal reasons or for additional sexual enjoyment. It is also explored as a cultural practice by some African communities.
Vulvectomy: A procedure to remove part or all of the outer vulva (labia, hood, clitoris, & hymen.) This could be done for aesthetic/personal reasons or due to injury/damage. It may also be chosen by transmasculine, non-binary, altersex, or intersex people that were unhappy with their vulva.
Infibulation: A procedure to stitch close the vulva, leaving open enough for menstruation and urination (and in some cases, penetration.) In some cases, the labia, clitoris, and/or hood may be removed as well. This could be done for aesthetic/personal reasons, however it is sadly usually done as a form of genital mutilation of AFAB/AXAB minors in some African, Asian, and Middle Eastern cultures.
Hymenotomy: A procedure to open up the hymen of an intersex person that has a imperforate, microperforate, cribriform, or septate hymen. This is either done because of menstrual/sexual fluids getting trapped inside, to allow for easier penetration, or for aesthetic/personal reasons.
Hymen Reconstruction Surgery/Hymenorrhaphy: A procedure to create or repair a hymen in those with a vagina. This is usually done as a way to fake virginity or "become virgin again", which is influenced by the logical fallacy that hymens break/are stretched during penetrative sex (which is not always the case. They could remain intact, or be stretched by activities like stretching, gymnastics, yoga, horseback riding, etc.) It is sometimes done as a therapeutic procedure for victims of sexual assault/abuse that experienced hymen tearing/stretching during the attack.
Vaginectomy: A procedure to close, tighten, or remove a piece of the vagina. This could be done for aesthetic/personal reasons, due to to injury/damage, or to to block of prolapsing organs. It may also be chosen by transmasculine, non-binary, altersex, or intersex people that were unhappy with their vagina.
Vulvoplasty: A procedure to create or repair a vulva. If this includes the creation or repair of a vaginal entry, it is called a Vaginoplasty. This could be done due to injury/damage, or chosen by transfeminine, non-binary, altersex, or intersex people that were unhappy with their genitals. Labiaplasties and clitoroplasties are often a part of these procedures.
A Phallus-Preserving Vulvoplasty/Phallus-Preserving Vaginoplasty is when a person with a penis chooses to have a vulvoplasty/vaginoplasty, while keeping their penis intact.
Clitoroidectomy: A procedure to remove part or all of the clitoris. This could be due to injury/damage or for aesthetic/personal reasons. It may also be chosen by non-binary, altersex, or intersex people that were unhappy with their clitoris.
Clitoroplasty: A procedure to create or repair a clitoris. This could be due to injury/damage or genital mutilation. It may also be chosen by transfeminine, non-binary, altersex, or intersex people that were unhappy with their small or absent clitoris. For those that had a penis/psuedophallus pre-surgery, either the head or the shaft is used to create/repair the clitoris. For those that lost their clitoris, the recreated clitoris may just be for appearance - it can only be sexually stimulating if the internal clitoral tissue remained sufficiently intact. For those born without any phallus (clitoris, penis, or pseudophallus), the clitoris is created from the labia or scrotum, and is only for appearance.
Metoidioplasty: A procedure to "release" a clitoris enlarged by androgens, by cutting the ligaments that attach it to the pubic bone, allowing it to stand taller when erect, like a typical penis. They can choose to have a scrotoplasty (possibly with prosthetic testes) and/or a urethroplasty (where the urethra is opened on the head of the phallus) if desired. This procedure can be chosen by transmasculine, non-binary, altersex, or intersex people that had a large clitoris.
Phalloplasty: A procedure to create or repair a penis. When done only for the glans, it is known as a Glansplasty. When done only for a scrotum, is is known as a Scrotoplasty. This could be done due to injury/damage, or chosen by transmasculine, non-binary, altersex, or intersex people that were unhappy with their genitals.
For those that had a vulva (or vulva-like genitals) previously, they can choose to have a scrotoplasty (possibly with prosthetic testes) and/or a urethroplasty (where the urethra is opened on the head of the phallus) if desired. If they had a clitoris/phallus previously, the penis is crafted using either some or all of the nerves to induce sexual sensation. If erection is not naturally possible, an implant is placed inside of the penis, in order to activate it manually.
Penectomy: A procedure to remove part or all of a penis. This could be done due to injury/damage or aesthetic/personal reasons. It may also be chosen by transfeminine, non-binary, altersex, or intersex people that were unhappy with their penis.
Genital Nullification: A procedure to remove the genitals, creating a smooth area in its place. Only the urethra (and optionally, sexually stimulating nerves) are left behind. If the sexually stimulating nerves are kept, they can be tactile (buried under the skin, but stimulated through touch) or visual (a lump of nerves, similar to a clitoris.) It may be chosen by transgender, non-binary, altersex, or intersex people that were unhappy with their genitals.
Genital Beading: A procedure to insert beads into the shaft of a penis/phallus or labia. It could be done for aesthetic/personal reasons or for extra sexual stimulation during intercourse (like ribbed condoms/ribbed dildos), almost like "built-in" sex toys. It may also be chosen by altersex or non-binary people that wished for their genitals to have a specific appearance. The beads could be any shape, though they are typically round.
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clowncary · 25 days ago
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Wifmüll Transition Guide
Following links are resources, posts, medical + social transition guides.
They refer specifically to honeybees, wifmülls, and transfems that were assigned female and unfortunately does lean towards those modifying, keeping, or transitioning from their vulvas (intersex or perisex). If you have recommendations, send me them! This will not include exclusively conformant labels, surgeries, etc.
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Resources
https://www.intomore.com/culture/identity/afab-transfem-means-doesnt-mean/
https://lgbtqia.wiki/wiki/AFAB_Transfem
https://www.tumblr.com/our-honeybee-transfem-experience/756384799403491328/oh-yeah-i-was-talking-about-this-in-a-discord
https://www.tumblr.com/genderstarbucks/765435092757856256/afab-wolffian-flag?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/intervex/763635511362486272?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/varsex-pride/762924196235001856?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/genderstarbucks/762629512980791296?source=share
(mentions genital mutilation, possible reasoning that one might be a honeybee/wifmüll)
https://www.tumblr.com/dhddmods/762393666474131456?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/idolki/758373784835227648/cosmos-transfeminine-a-space-based-transfeminine?source=share
https://afab-transfem.carrd.co/
Posts
https://www.tumblr.com/our-honeybee-transfem-experience/763156440083988480/for-the-perisex-people-on-this-blog-since-i-keep?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/our-honeybee-transfem-experience/762460044131434496/alr-i-think-the-discord-is-good-to-be-open-heres?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/smilepilled/762534829682262016/for-as-long-as-ive-been-alive-i-have-been-afab?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/isabellascarlett1/732261606472466432/your-intersex-awareness-day-reminders-that?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/deadc0py/762153105832935424/i-was-thinking-more-on-the-afab-transfem-discourse?source=share
Transitioning
https://www.tumblr.com/clowncaraz/765914331391148033?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/dhddmods/758514755449356288/multivulva-multiclitoris-xenovulva?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/varsex-pride/764193037566050304?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/varsex-pride/730488058481426432?source=share
https://diyhrt.wiki/index
https://www.reddit.com/r/altersex/comments/1dhs3nu/sex_alteration_guide_bottom_surgerytop_surgery/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TransSurgeriesWiki/wiki/srs/introduction/#wiki_non-binary_surgery
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baroque-hashem · 4 months ago
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Presumably, you believe in bodily autonomy, just the same as me -- of women who desire to get an abortion, of trans people who desire to transition (socially, yes, but since we are discussing *bodily* autonomy, medical transition is an appropriate analogy), etc. Keeping this in mind, do you not think it violates the bodily autonomy of a person to have them undergo a surgical procedure on their genitals (that is, circumcision) when they are a newborn and as such unable to consent to such an action? I mean, presumably, you'd also (correctly, to be clear!) be against it when it comes to intersex children being forced into procedures to make their genitals align with their AGAB. How is circumcision any different? Should we not seek to protect the autonomy of children -- one of the most vulnerable and systematically repressed populations -- by leaving it up to their own decision, when they grow older, on whether or not they should undergo circumcision?
P.S. you should do more research into the function of a foreskin. It is by no means "unnecessary" -- it serves to reduce friction during intercourse, and it contains many nerves that enable sensory input.
Speaking as an intersex person, circumcision is completely different than corrective surgeries for intersex children. Sometimes, corrective surgeries are medically necessary. You're comparing apples to oranges.
Circumcision is really not a big deal. Why do you care? The child doesn't fucking care, and most people don't live to regret it. It doesn't damage your life at all. There is literally almost zero difference between living circumcised versus living uncircumcised. Telling me to do more research? Oh trust me, I know what I'm talking about lmao. Maybe you should actually know what you're talking about before you come screeching into my inbox like some arrogant condescending SJW.
People who believe in the sanctity of nature are fucking ridiculous. Nature is not a god. Nature is not perfect. Nature is an impersonal force which can and does frequently fuck up.
And why is it only a process predominant among Jews that people have a problem with? I don't hear people kvetching about female genital mutilation by Muslims, which IS completely unnecessary, nearly as much as they kvetch about circumcision.
What are the negatives of circumcision? The only one anyone has ever been able to find is the tiniest most miniscule chance that sexual intercourse will feel different. Maybe. Or maybe your piss hole will shrink, which can be fixed so fucking easily with a simple procedure, and this problem can occur in uncircumcised people too. And wow, THAT'S a good reason for shitting on a thousands-of-years-old religious practice? Because maybe your putz won't feel as fucking good while fucking? Fucking fakakta, man.
Circumcision is not a big deal. It doesn't hurt people. Fucking get a life. Go worry about something that actually matters.
And I love when people prove my points. I mention that people are weirdly hyperfixated on circumcision, and here you are, kvetching about a non-issue.
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osokasstuff · 18 days ago
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i'm too pissed off to sleep so i'm going to bitch about some takes and overall transphobic shit i had to see lately. this post isn't directed at anyone here, "you" used in general sense and only directed at people who said quoted shit.
tw transphobia, intersexism, exorsexism, terfism (all of it in quotes), mentions of igm, racism, and genocide, tons of caps, me being very aggressive and bitchy
> "trans people uphold gender stereotypes"
wow today i get to know the demographic that is literally seen as failing to perform both gender roles at the same time actually upholds gender stereotypes. and the same person said, "if you wear the skirt, your dick won't disappear." how gender non-stereotypical. /sarcasm
genuinely fuck you. have you ever considered the fact that maybe, MAYBE man = dick and woman = vulva is a gender stereotype too? or are you too coward for this? /rhetorical
i'm so sick of this argument, really. it sucks itself. i'm tired of its inevitable bullshitness. i have neither energy nor desire to destroy it properly. i'm so tired.
> "men in dresses in women's bathrooms"
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU. maybe we live in different worlds with these people because in my world there's no gender policy that stops everyone with man gender identity from entering women's bathroom. like. cis man without dress can actually enter, you know? nothing prevents them, you know? sorry for destroying your nice illusion of security, but if someone wants to enter any bathroom with malicious intentions, nothing actually stops them. so you're doomed to pee in fear until the end of your lives. just like we do.
> *unquotable whining about how everyone protects the rights of people who label themselves as gender-neutral pots*
HAVE YOU EVER SPOKEN WITH A TRANS PERSON IN YOUR LIFE??? and if yes, where the fuck you live because i want to move there! NEUTRAL GENDER MARK, NOT XENOGENDERS, NOT EVEN DIFFERENT OPTIONS, SIMPLE NEUTRAL GENDER FUCKING MARK IS LEGAL IN APPROXIMATELY DOSEN OF COUNTRIES!!! where have you found these mythical places where you're FORCED to respect xenogender people because i want to go there and stay there forever! even in trans communities, xenogender people are often mocked and ostracized! do you think xenogender liberation is the only our problem? YOU LIVE IN THE FUCKING COUNTRY WHERE TRANSITION IS PROHIBITED! and so in lots of other countries! and even in countries where it's allowed, there are always tons of assholes who want to ban or restrict it again! YOU CAN'T STAND THE IDEA THAT THE PRECIOUS GENDER (TM) CAN BE ANYTHING BESIDES MAN AND WOMAN AND WE'RE THE ONES WHO UPHOLD GENDER STEREOTYPES? and moreso, you think the binary gender system is a NATURAL ORDER OF THINGS? genuinely go fuck yourself.
> "but there are only two sexes!"
YOU THINK LIKE THAT ONLY BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE WHO THINK LIKE THAT SUBJECT INFANTS TO GENITAL MUTILATIONS, AND LATER PUT INTERSEX PEOPLE ON "CORRECTIVE" TREATMENT WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT. you don't even KNOW about HORRIBLE LEVELS OF VIOLENCE that are used to uphold your nice sweet idea about only two fucking sexes. go fuck urself, SEX IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT, moreso, IT'S A VIOLENCE-BASED CONSTRUCT, and if you're not aware about it, you're not allowed to bitch about gender being a social construct. binary sex and gender systems are based on unbelievable levels of violence, on literal genocide and erasure of intersex people, poc, and trans people. THAT are actual social constructs, and they are made FOR YOUR COMFORT by YOUR FRIENDS who are happy to murder, torture, and erase MILLIONS OF PEOPLE for your ability to never reconsider your understandings of sex and gender.
> "i don't like trans people but don't misgender them"
oh THANK YOU YOUR PRECIOUS GRACIOUS MAJESTY for your GENEROUS DECISION to not misgender us, MISERABLE FREAKS who definitely don't deserve SUCH A NICE TREATMENT. should i start to kiss your ass immediately or wait until you finish your condescending reasoning about why you're so PATIENT AND UNDERSTANDING towards us? /sarcasm
i swear, one day, i'll start to treat them like they treat trans people. /not serious
you know, i don't get all this stuff about being perisex cis, i mean, they just kinda... take what they're given from birth and use it? without any reflection and, you know, actually thinking about it? don't you think it upholds gender stereotypes, like, if you were assigned [insert], you live your life as [insert], isn't it kinda... stereotypical? maybe they should at least try to live in a different gender? to know for sure? i mean, i can't even imagine how it is to be perisex cis, so it's probably really weird, and maybe they'll change their mind when they get older? of course, if they're nice and don't ask too much, i will use their pronouns... maybe, but do you agree it's weird, not to say gross, on their side?
i'm so fucking done with this shit. i know most of the people who say shit are not genuinely malicious and are deeply uneducated or misinformed, but it's so heartbreaking, triggering, and exhausting to see this shit everywhere. i'm done with having to tolerate such a bullshit or leave spaces/lose connections and live in constant fear of revealing another transphobe-exorsexist-intersexist in my surroundings. sometimes i wanna people to consider the fact that trans, nonbinary, and intersex people are around them, can hear their bullshit, and have feelings about it. at the very fucking least. i'm done being discussed like i'm a fucking exotic thing and not someone actually existing in public and online spaces.
sometimes i wish some people a very nice shut the fuck up.
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baeddel-txt · 1 year ago
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Genuine question but whats the point in baeddels using the terms "camab" and "cafab?" doesnt it mean the exact same thing as amab and afab? why do they use it?? where did it come from? just genuinely curious
I have no idea where “CAGAB” comes from. The first time I encountered it was on tumblr circa 2010. Prior to that, all I knew was “FAAB” and “MAAB” (fe/male assigned at birth).
There was discourse over the terms “CAMAB” and “CAFAB” back then, with mostly trans radfems arguing that a trans woman coined the terms, and transphobic intersex people arguing that the terms belonged to intersex people. Neither side was able to provide any evidence for their claims. That said, I did do my own research into it at the time and the earliest usage of “CAGAB” I was able to find was from TransTorah in 2002.
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So take that as you will.
That said, as time went by, and this particular discourse became more widespread, most people ended up taking the intersex side. It is from this where “AGAB” and “DGAB” (designated gender at birth) come from.
Initially in the discourse the argument was that endosex trans people could not be “coercively” assigned anything, only intersex people could, as supposedly the “coercively” referred specifically to intersex genital mutilation. People accepted this, and dropped the “C” giving us “AGAB”.
Of course, goalposts move, and so the discourse changed to how endosex trans people cannot be “assigned” a gender, only intersex people can, because, again, of intersex genital mutilation. So that killed “GAAB” and, briefly, “AGAB”. In its place was coined “DGAB”.
People tried to move the goalposts again over “designated”, but people saw what was happening re shifting goalposts, and so this never got any traction. Not to mention how trans radfems were gaining more ground in social justice circles so people were more willing to listen to them now. People instead just continued to argue over “coercively” and “assigned” until the Baeddel Crew broke up. How much of that correlation is causation I know not.
As for why baeddels prefer “CAGAB” over others, well, it’s because the “coercively” connotes that the gendering was forced upon you against your will, it implies violence, which the “assigned” alone does not. There was also some shit about how “AGAB” and “DGAB” are harmful because they lump trans people in with cis people.
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complicitsacrilege · 3 months ago
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You're wrong about MGM. Do you honestly think that mutilating a child's genitals PREVENTS infections? Girl that's an open wound on a child that pisses and shits in the same diaper. And are you unaware that we have this thing called ANTIBIOTICS. Those help against bacterical infections, not open wounds. Babies die from complications after genital mutilation, not to mention the times it goes wrong and they end up with no penis left (ask David Reimer, oh no wait, he killed himself after being forced to live as a girl after they mutilated his penis). We don't live in the middle ages anymore, so get your head out of your ass and stop promating middle age practices. BABIES CANT CONSENT TO COSMETIC SURGERY. And fuck your religion argument too, BABIES ARE NOT RELIGIOUS THEY ARE BABIES THEY CANT EVEN TALK YET
Hi, hello, wow that is a lot of anger. Maybe it’s time to log off for a bit and breathe. But if you insist on flipping the hell out in my ask box, here you go:
A: do NOT fucking refer to me as ‘girl’.
B: I never said anything about agreeing with ANY kind of surgery performed on nonconsenting parties (child or otherwise), circumcision included. I can understand why it is done for both religious and medical reasons but I’m not sure you comprehend the difference between understanding and agreeing.
C: wow, have you considered not attacking random strangers on the internet without having an OUNCE of reading comprehension? These were my exact tags:
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Easy to Read Translation: circumcision is its own issue. There are reasons, both medical, and obvious cultural/religious, why it is done. When are we going to talk about the shit that is done to intersex people (by the medical community - prob should’ve specified that I guess)? (Which is a completely separate issue.)
When did I say that I agreed with it? And when did I ever say that surgeries should be performed on intersex people? I do not see where that is said here. I can understand misunderstanding my words but like… where did you get the entire opposite meaning? Also like… I rarely ever bring it up, so most people don’t know, but I’m an antitheist, so joke’s on you about the religion argument. I think all theistic religions are unethical to some degree, but that doesn’t mean I can’t respect the people who practice them or the cultural significance that they hold.
D: again. I do not agree with performing surgery on infants or people who cannot consent in general, but the CDC has stated that circumcision does, in fact help reduce the risk of some types of infection. This is something for consenting individuals to discuss with their doctors. Obviously. https://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp-newsroom/factsheets/male-circumcision-for-hiv-prevention.html#:~:text=Circumcised%20men%20compared%20with%20uncircumcised,%25%20to%2047%25%20percent).
E: Kindly fuck off because this is all the attention you will be receiving from me.
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