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me every time i remember achilles dragged hector’s body around the walls of troy
#just like#the iliad is a war story#the odyssey is a man’s story#but war is made by men and god does it make them too#and such cruel and open disrespect#that is sickeningly personal#in this literal epic#i just feel crazy about the magnifying glass of grief and rage that is achilles dragging hector#marble woes#the iliad#achilles#hector of troy
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ares slays his daughter’s rapist
#ares#alcippe#greek mythology#art#the illiad#the oddyssey#epic the musical#tw sa#he is a grildad and a-dot is a boymom#good on him for doing the bare minimum unlike literally everyone else in his family#u know that family dinners are a nightmare#he got taken to court but the judge was literally his mom#she took one look at ares’s dad and was like yeah no i get it
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Telemachus, crying that he finally gets to meet his dad: “For twenty years, I never could outgrow you”
Odysseus, the short king, also crying: son, you are several inches taller then I am
#he definitely says it while in tears tho#we love our short king#Telemachus: stop giving literal answers to rhetorical questions!#i can’t help but wonder#the ithaca saga#epic the musical#epic#epic fandom#epicthemusical#odysseus#epic musical#odyssey#epic odysseus#epic the ithaca saga#odysseus of ithaca#epic telemachus#telemachus#telemachus of ithaca#who else had this thought
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I Can’t Help But Wonder
Odysseus, who just violently and mercilessly murdered 108 or so men, who claims in the next song that he’s no longer a kind or gentle man, actively listens to Telemachus and kindly and gently responds to everything his son’s expressed.
Telemachus asks, “Am I like you? Am I strong like you? Will you embrace me? Will you love and accept me as yours?” He says, “I’ve felt so alone.”
And Odysseus claims him in a heartbeat, answering, “My son. My boy. My sweetest joy I’ve ever known. I embraced you twenty years ago. I’d do the impossible for you. I’d die for you.” He says, “Seeing the men here today, I can only wonder what you’ve been through for twenty years. My son, you’re already strong. You’re my own. You’re not alone. I’m home.”
And then they fucking embrace.
#don’t mind me I’m just over here sobbing#something something Odysseus being an attentive loving father drenched in blood#the way he literally responds to everything#he says ‘you are MY SON I’ve never stopped embracing you’#‘I may be deranged and unhinged after years of torment but I’ll be damned before I let you think you’ve ever been unloved by me’#the instrumentals reflect it too#Tele’s piano is hesitant and very faint during his part overwhelmed by Ody’s guitar#the moment ody starts singing the piano blends immediately#Ody’s got open arms for his son#epic the musical#epic#odysseus#epic odysseus#epic telemachus#telemachus#epic the Ithaca saga#the ithaca saga#ithaca saga
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Poseidon screaming "Monster" at Odysseus has the same vibe as Victor Frankenstein calling his creature inhuman and disgusting and un-alive. My brother in Christ, you created him.
#epic the musical#the vengeance saga#frankenstein#the line between man and monster baby#my literal BELOVED
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The sillies
When even Athena the Virgin goddess whose most intimate encounter was stabbing her bff thinks you’re cooked, you’re definitely cooked
#Odysseus (virgin) asking Athena (virgin goddess) for romantic advice is so funny to me#like it’s literally the blind leading the blind#I like to think even after days of strategizing with Athena ody still has 0 rizz#yes he’s trained in tactical seduction and yapping but up against someone he actually likes?#Penelope is just amused and charmed by his rizzlessness#0 rizz#epic the musical#epic odysseus#epic athena#epic penelope#odypen#fanart#xria art
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trick or treat!!!!
UHHH IDK HAVE THIS GUY OR WHATEVER
#my gods have golden blood btw#I was gonna make the blood white but it looked very inappropriate and I literally screamed in horror#gigi's asks#epic the musical#epic the vengeance saga
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Epic crew: Lets travel to Ithaca to livestream the premiere of "How Fucking Difficult it is to get to Ithaca" the Musical! What could go wrong?
#epic the musical#i love this so much they literally triggered the gods#jorge rivera herrans#epic#bloopnik rambles
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I think, perhaps one of the funniest things to come from EPIC popularising the Odyssey is that now a ton of people think Poseidon wanted to kill Odysseus.
In the Odyssey, Poseidon has no intention of killing Odysseus. In fact, part of the whole reason Zeus lets Poseidon do whatever he wants even though he thinks Odysseus is rad and should get to kiss his wife is explicitly because Poseidon had no intentions of killing Odysseus. Poseidon wanted to pay back the suffering/inconvenience blinding Polyphemus would have caused. It's a really abstract thing tbh. How do you pay back someone permanently disabling your son? Poseidon's solution was just to amputate Odysseus from his other half; i.e. Penelope. The end game was never murder, it was always an endurance race.
(Od. Book 1: Zeus reassuring Athena that he is not, in fact, a part of Odysseus Hater-Nation. Trans. Robert Fagles)
Also, for those wondering if there's any sort of in text reason for why Poseidon wasn't around in God Games - at the time in the Odyssey when Athena petitions Zeus to let Odysseus leave Calypso's island, Poseidon was -checks notes- on vacation in Ethiopia. Yep. He left to Ethiopia for a festival and thusly was very much absent for Athena's whole "please let Ody go? Please? 🥺" request.
(Od. Book 1: While Odysseus was suffering, Poseidon went to party in the east)
I am begging y'all to read the Odyssey. It's a comedy for everyone except Odysseus and Penelope who are, in fact, suffering 24/7 365.
#ginger rambles#ginger chats about greek myths#Sorry for the quality of the quotes but I'm too tired to google a pdf vers of the Odyssey and then edit those so y'all are getting#my crunchy pictures from one of my physical copies of the book lol#it's reiterated multiple times that Poseidon doesn't want Odysseus dead too#he is literally just driving him mad on the ocean because that's what Odysseus condemned Polyphemus to by blinding him#Also there's no good way to mention this but the Odyssey starts#by Zeus lamenting how mortals blame all their troubles and miseries on the gods when that's just not fair#because the gods go out of their way to warn the mortals that will be saddled with the most wretched fates#and they ignore the gods and do whatever they want anyway LMFAO#It's a really smart way to tie in the whole Orestes plot that would have wrapped up in between Odysseus getting stranded on Ogygia#and Odysseus getting off of Ogygia#epic the musical#epic the wisdom saga#zeus#athena#odysseus#poseidon#the odyssey
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Someone should really draw Ody and Zeus like this as a part of (the amazing) @anniflamma 's manwhore saga 😂
#epic the musical#the manwhore saga#i would literally die#Odysseus#zeus#epic odysseus#epic zeus#manwhore au#epic#epic fanart
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I fully think Odysseus expects to never see Athena again after he turns down her offer. Yes, it’s clear she’s changed—the Athena he knew would never say something so sentimental—but he’s familiar with her nature. She won’t be back now that he has no use to her.
I also fully think that Athena would absolutely rock back down to Ithaca after a week of letting the family reunite (she’s taking this empathy thing seriously, guys) and just be chilling at the breakfast table in the morning. Just visiting. No biggie.
(This becomes a regular thing.)
#tagamemnon#greek mythology#epic the musical#odysseus#athena#headcanon#odysseus is flabbergasted#and he half thinks this is some long-winded ploy to get him to work with her again#but she’s not#she’s literally just there to hang out#casually becomes the local deity#odysseus watches athena help telemachus find rare flowers for penelope#and he’s like#i’m either hallucinating or dying
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JORGE YOU BEAUTIFUL SON OF A BITCH
YOU PUT OLIVE TREE
YOU MADE PENELOPE YELL AT ODYSSEUS
THE BREAK IN HER VOICE
THE HIGH NOTES
IM
ALSDJKLFJALSJGLAGJ
#epic the musical#epic the musical spoilers#epic the ithaca saga#odypen#the literal HOW DARE YOU SAY YOU ARE NOT YOU#IM UNWELL
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I find this dichotomy so funny:
Odysseus, who has been in war for years and is quick to be crafty and trick his enemies: *laments and mourns giving up mercy and being forced to become the monster*
Telemachus, the one with a reputation of being small and weak with a good heart: *kills a man from behind while they’re distracted without any hesitation or remorse*
#like#granted#Telemachus does offer to spare the next ones and that backfires on him#but I’m pretty sure he did kill that first guy#and he said he wanted to fight monsters (literal and figurative) to bring light to the world#so he kept the mercy and kindness while also doubling down on the evils#like ody#I get why you went the way you did but#your son figured out how to keep both lmao#ah well#he’s home so now Telemachus can work with Athena on that kinder world she was talking about#so good for him lol#epic the musical#epic the ithaca saga#ithaca saga#telemachus#Odysseus#the odyssey#Athena
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Me when "touch her and ill kill you": well thats problematic
Me when "you ploted to kill my son, you planed to rape my wife, ALL OF YOU are going to die": seem like I dont have an option but to fall in love
#mithology#greek mythology#greek myth#odysseus#odyssey#epic the musical#epic#the odyssey#epic: the musical#the ithaca saga#epic the ithaca saga#epic: the ithaca saga#i would literally die if my husband say that
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I watched Starship Troopers tonight.
#personal#dumb#my art#immediately after finishing i was pumped to watch some analysis vids on it#cuz i heard a lot of the drama about the original author being a pro military fascist and the director going “fuck that” and making a satir#scrolling through youtube search results was not promising. lots of male film buffs i would Not trust even on a first glance.#“The Critical Drinker” (pfp of a bearded man drinking alcohol) lol.#and then I saw cinemawins did a video on it and was like oh nice i haven't seen his stuff in a while but he's a pretty leftist creator#scrolled through the comments#second panel face#this sucks i'm outta here.#just leagues and leagues and leagues of anime pfps and right leaning people dogpiling on him for “not understanding what fascism is”#idk it's pretty alien and weird to me watching this movie and going “wow yeah that was pretty obvious huh” like literally the from opening#to the teacher preaching militance and only giving voting rights to “those who serve their nation first and earn it”#and then seeing droves of people online going#WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? It's not anti-fascist and even if it was it's#the director's fault for desecrating heinlein's incredible sci-fi epic vision. ermm media literacy is dead.
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Au. Before the Trojan war when Ares and Ody are asked to try to get along.
(Ares and Ody are sitting awkwardly across from each other.)
Ody: So, Athena asked us to try finding what we have in common.
Ares: We both want this to end. Done. (Stands up)
Ody: Yeah, but I don't think that's what she meant....uh, I love Penelope and you love Aphrodite.
Ares: That's true. (Sits back down) Aphrodite's amazing.
Ody (with a goofy grin): Penelope just has the brightest laugh.
Ares (head in hand): Aphrodite's so smart and pretty.
(Hours later, they're kicking their feet in the air while on their stomachs)
Ody (gleefully): And then this one time, Penelope made this little snort sound!
Ares (gasping): You're kidding! Aphrodite does that too! It's adorable!
Ody: I know right!
(Penelope and Aphrodite are about to enter the room. Athena stops them.)
Athena: Don't do in there. You'll be a distraction.
Penelope (confused): There's so much giggling in that room. We wanted to see what was going on.
Athena:...bonding.
Aphrodite: Between who?
Athena (directing them both away from the room): You wouldn't believe me if I told you.
#epic the musical#greek mythology#athena#odysseus#epic athena#epic odysseus#epic ares#ares#aphrodite#epic aphrodite#penelope#epic penelope#odysseus x penelope#ares x aphrodite#they can finally bond#hope no one needs that room#this might literally never end#the Odyssey doesn't even happen#Ody just spends the rest of his mortal life fanboying over Pen with his new bestie#then Ares goes to the Underworld when he dies so that they can keep sharing stories
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