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Just a Man and I Can’t Help but Wonder have the same melody in their intros except in different keys and different tempos UGHHHHH
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Telemachus, crying that he finally gets to meet his dad: “For twenty years, I never could outgrow you”
Odysseus, the short king, also crying: son, you are several inches taller then I am
#he definitely says it while in tears tho#we love our short king#Telemachus: stop giving literal answers to rhetorical questions!#i can’t help but wonder#the ithaca saga#epic the musical#epic#epic fandom#epicthemusical#odysseus#epic musical#odyssey#epic odysseus#epic the ithaca saga#odysseus of ithaca#epic telemachus#telemachus#telemachus of ithaca#who else had this thought
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Ironically, after having obsessively listened to the entire saga on repeat last night, my favorite song was I Can’t Help But Wonder. It was my least favorite on my first listen through, but the more I listened to it and absorbed all the meanings and implications? I just. Loved it so much more 😭
There’s Odysseus finally meeting his son for essentially the first time (yes he held him as an infant, but he doesn’t know him as a person), there’s the fact that he spent twenty years wishing he could know his son. And then there’s Telemachus on the other side of the conversation who’s been dreaming of knowing his dad for twenty years and is worried his dad won’t love him?? Devastating. Imagine desperately loving and wanting to meet your child for twenty years and being told they worry you won’t love them??
AND THE LINE ABOUT ODYSSEUS TELLING HIS INFANT SON HE WOULD CAPTURE THE WIND AND SKY FOR HIM?? Guys. Odysseus literally captured the wind and sky to get home to his son and wife.
And then we have the reunion with Athena 😭😭 They don’t even talk about anything that happened?? I just imagine this scene of Odysseus saying, “Show yourself. I know you’re watching me,” just like he did when they first met, and neither of them say a thing about their argument, nothing about Athena fighting for him and saving him, nothing about everything that happened between the last ten years.
And without saying any of that, Athena goes straight into a roundabout way of saying, “You were right, I was wrong, and I led you astray.” She said, “I’m sorry,” without saying it. And there’s a beat of silence. Odysseus sighs. And essentially tells her, “No, you weren’t wrong. And I wasn’t wrong either. That world could exist somewhere far away, but it doesn’t exist here. I’m too old and tired to ever find it though, so you’ll have to make it exist someday for both of us.”
He forgives her in un-said words. It’s an absolution of the wrong Athena feels she’s committed. A goddess apologized to him, and Odysseus absolved her of her sins. Just. AHHHHHHHHHHH.
And then they part ways 😭😭😭 and there’s a tone in their voices that says it’s really their final goodbye this time. And they didn’t even say goodbye.
#brb gonna go cry about this#and probably lay on the floor for a bit#i can’t help but wonder#the ithica saga#ithica saga#epic ithaca saga#epic spoilers#epic athena#epic odysseus#epic the ithaca saga#epic the musical#epic telemachus#odysseus#athena#telemachus
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He’s home.
I am such a sucker for tender parent-child moments. And this one was beautiful.
#epic the musical#odysseus#telemachus#epic the musical ithaca saga#ithaca saga#i can’t help but wonder
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Which song do you think Athena will turn up in?
#I think she is going to appear at some point for the record#Epic the musical#poll#epic the Ithaca saga#the challange#Hold them down#odysseus#i can’t help but wonder#Would you fall in love with me again
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Telemachus’ little “Of course” when Ody tells him to go tell his mom he’s back in I Can’t Help has been driving me insane for days because it was so familiar and I couldn’t place it.
And I finally figured it out. It’s the the exact same “of course” that Siren!Penelope gives when agreeing to answer a question.
This means it’s probably an actual vocal tic that the real Penelope actually has. One that she uses often enough that it’s one of the things that both the siren picks up on( over the fact that they have a son not a daughter) and her son has picked up the same vocal tic with the same inflection.
It’s not important, but I thought it was cute.
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“Father?”
“Son.”
*sobs*
#epic the musical#odysseus#odysseus of ithaca#epic the musical fanart#epic the ithaca saga#i can’t help but wonder#telemachus#telemachus of ithaca#young artist#artists on tumblr#traditional art#really proud of this :3
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This is absolutely the song I’m most exited about in the Ithaca saga, I will be weeping !!
Obviously this is all very inspired by the amazing @gigizetz , those epic animations are incredible!!
#this is my new obsession#epic fanart#epic the musical#epic odysseus#epic telemachus#I can’t help but wonder#epic the ithaca saga#digital art#art#digital drawing#drawing#fanart#procreate#odysseus#telemachus#trans artist#athena#epic art#epic comics#epic the musical comic
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What gets me every time is that in I Can’t Help But Wonder, even though Odysseus really just wants to see Penelope after everything, he still hangs back and talks to Athena, despite the way they left things (as far as he knows) after Polyphemus. He’ll take time to speak with her and delay his reunion with Penelope because he always saw them as friends
#epic the musical#odysseus#the odyssey#greek mythology#jorge rivera herrans#epic the Ithaca saga#Athena#athena epic#epic the Ithaca saga spoilers#epic the cyclops saga#I can’t help but wonder#my goodbye#warrior of the mind#it was so bittersweet and perfect but i kinda wish they addressed god games#think that’s soemthing that might be added into the libretto maybe#or just post epic saga
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I was just listening to I Can’t Help But Wonder, and when Ody and Telemachus embrace for the first time, Odysseus sings “Telemachus I’m home” and Telemachus sings the “home” part, like he’s finally home now that he’s with his father gjekdfb
#odysseus and telemachus#epic odysseus#epic telemachus#epic the musical#epic the ithaca saga#the ithaca saga#jorge rivera herrans#miguel veloso#I can’t help but wonder#odysseus#telemachus#epic
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#epic the musical#jorge rivera herrans#epic the Ithaca saga#the ithaca saga#epic ithaca saga#epic musical#epic odysseus#hold them down#the challenge#odysseus#i can’t help but wonder#would you fall in love with me again#the odyssey#telemachus#odypen#penelope of ithaca#odysseus of ithaca
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i am weak to parent-child relationship in media… specifically Telemachus’ and Odysseus’
i think i was on the verge of tears on “I Can’t Help but Wonder”
#epic telemachus#epic odysseus#ithaca saga#i love epic your honor#epic the ithaca saga#epic the musical#i can’t help but wonder
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I Can’t Help But Wonder What This World Could Be
Happy Holidays! Here is the first of a couple Back Up Secret Santa gifts I have planned! This first one is for @theduckwhostoleyourbread! Here is a drawing of Athena!
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i love the line “you were never one for hellos” cause she is one for goodbyes
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Ithaca Saga Rankings:
My personal rankings are:
1. Would you fall in love with me again -AUGH IT WAS SO SWEET and the harmonizing?? The lyrics?? The instrumentals??
2. Odysseus - Love how Odysseus is in this, the part where he calls Telemachus “My Boy” and the bloodshed?? The screaming, the guy who couldn’t say mercy??
3. The Challenge -Penelope solo song!!! Vocals were incredible like always, love the lyrics - especially with the shroud part, so sweet.
4. I can’t help but wonder - I LOVE TELEMACHUS AND ODYSSEUS BONDING, I didn’t think that it was on the same level as the other songs, it felt a bit…out of place in the sense that the rhythm & beat didn’t seem consistent
5. Hold Them Down - don’t get me wrong, this song is incredible. An incredible villain song, but the animatic plus the lyrics made me sick, props to Jorge for showing how the suitors were in The Odyssey but genuinely made me sick (especially with my own trauma with SA) so it’s last, unfortunately
Feel free to reblog with your rankings!!
#epic odysseus#epic the musical#jorge rivera herrans#epic the circe saga#epic the cyclops saga#epic the ocean saga#epic the thunder saga#epic the troy saga#epic the underworld saga#epic the wisdom saga#epic the ithaca saga#epic the healing saga actually#or cuddle saga#jorge when i catch you jorge#can’t wait to see what’s next for Epic#the oddyssey#epic the vengeance saga#epic fandom#rankings of Ithaca saga songs#WYFILWMA#would you fall in love with me again#Odysseus#the challenge#I can’t help but wonder#hold them down#hold them down made me sick but it’s a damn good song#personal rankings
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OH MY FUCKING GODS I CAN’T HELP BUT WONDER AND WOULD YOU FALL IN LOVE WITH ME AGAIN KILLED ME I AM DEAD GODS I NEED 3 TO 5 BUSINESS WEEKS TO RECOVER JESUS
#wendy’s stuff#wendy rambles#epic#epic musical#epic the musical#epic the ithaca saga#ithaca saga#the ithaca saga#epic ithaca saga#i can’t help but wonder#would you fall in love with me again
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