#if they or the content is harming other ppl in some way then they should definitely step back but if its harmless then who cares
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snowstories · 8 months ago
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[Image: Tumblr tags reading: #just the words 'content warning' should let you think long and hard about everything that's wrong about how people approach media nowadays #like it's just feed that's gotta be as sanitized as possible #not inconvenience you in the slightest #my brother in christ art is like an earthquake it must make the ground you stand on shake so violently #and make everything you collected in your safe little room of safety fall down and apart #do you understand me #do you want to be shackled forever in a dark cave or do you want to see a sun so bright your eyes burn and you're forever changed. End description.]
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soooo glad we're doing "content warnings bad" in a blue hair and pronouns way now /sarcastic. content warnings aren't "sanitizing" things, they literally exist so the content can exist without triggering people or dropping something on them unprepared. "your safe little room" do you not see how this is the exact same rhetoric conservatives use mocking "safe spaces" and how the dumb liberals don't know anything about the Real World. some people like being warned before they hear about heavy topics. some people want to avoid some topics altogether. that is fine. and it is morally neutral to not want to consume triggering content. hope this helps.
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devildomwriter · 9 months ago
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*TW*- i*cest, r*pe, g*re, p*dophilia, some general discourse
Ok so I am trying to ask this in the most respectful way because I don't wanna snowball this into a huge discourse; but I wonder if you've been seeing the Dark Content Discourse here on Tumblr?
It basically entails that despite your personal preferences, attacking/ demeaning other ppl who create/ consume dark content is a big no no because it's their safe space to be able to explore these topics. This includes all sort of stuff like i*cest, r*pe, g*re and even p*dophilia. Now you may not agree with any of these things, most ppl don't, and they might disgust you; which is totally fine. But there is a huge leap b/w something that is fictional and something that is real.
Fictional characters are literal lines on a paper. Doing anything with a fictional child does not mean you are harming a REAL child. This might still disgust you and that's fine too. You can block that person so you don't have to look at it again but to call everyone like this and start a campaign against them is well...
I just want you to know that I am not defending that person. I didn't even know them at all before this...Neither I am advocating for anything they are saying or confirming/claiming that they are good irl. I don't know them.
I just want you look at this from a different perspective and know your thoughts about this ordeal. Like for one moment step away from your pre-existing feelings and bias and look at this objectively. Everyone likes something that's even a lil problematic, so if we went on these campaigns every time, literally no one will be left in fandom. I don't agree with p*dophilia but I don't agree with this either...AGAIN THIS IS NOT MEANT TO CONDONE ANY OF THIS BEHAVIOUR! But to paint someone as a bad person for things they do in fiction in their safe space no matter how problematic, is somewhat disconcerting.
I again wanna say that this is not any hate against you or anyone else. I don't want to cause any discourse myself . I think you are an amazing writer and a valuable member in our fandom. Which is why it's important to me to hear your stance on this. But if you'd rather not answer this at all that's fine too! :>
I appreciate your perspective and I sometimes enjoy certain dark content as long as they warn others but pedophilia— fictional or not— should never be written/glorified/accepted. If it’s written as a horrible incident or traumatic backstory (like Lolita) then I understand why it’s written but glorifying or romanticizing it in any way is unacceptable.
If no one is left in the fandom after going on these “witch hunts” then the fandom is toxic, preditory, and unsafe.
As for the huge leap between fiction and reality, everything starts as a thought or fantasy. The more you think about it the more likely you are to commit or watch such an act.
Tumblr should under no circumstances be a safe place for pedophiles.
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booksandpaperss · 2 years ago
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idk who exactly on this tag needs to hear this but it’s definitely a lot of you:
it is perfectly okay for a fanfic writer to have Mike and Will having physical and sexual thoughts about each other. They are teenagers and it completely normal for allosexual and even acespec teenagers to have sexual thoughts about the person or people they like. Yes adult fanfic writers can do this too it’s literally not weird as long as it’s written respectfully and accurately, and I’m actually so fucking tired of all this discourse that is so clearly rooted in people feeling uncomfortable with two boys being sexually attracted to each other, or even queer teenagers in general having sexual thoughts about each other.
I do think it’s weird to write explicit sex scenes between minors and especially in this case when these characters are represented by real people with real bodies who were minors while filming the vast majority of the show, but honestly anything suggestive between two 14/15 year olds and up that’s not explicit and/or sexualized is normal. And before any of you come at me saying I’m sexualizing minors, you can fuck right off bc I am 17 and I am sick and tired of teenagers and especially queer teenagers being shamed for sexual thoughts that are perfectly normal.
I understand if you personally are not comfortable reading and writing anything suggestive, that is fine bc I have a solution for you! Wanna guess what it is??
Just. Don’t. Read it.
If it’s content u don’t like, simply don’t interact!!! No one is forcing you to read or write anything that you don’t want to, so simply don’t. It’s that easy 😱
I will say though, that if reading an even vaguely suggestive thought in a byler fic makes you extremely uncomfortable, maybe you should take a moment to ask yourself why that is. Bc love between teenagers is not all fluffy and pure and innocent, and its honestly way weirder to have that ideal than to write teens having sexual thoughts, so maybe do some self reflection. If you’re ace and suggestive content in general makes u feel weird then that’s different, but if that’s not the case then if you’re allo and u still feel this way… idk just take a moment to check and see if you’re internalizing anything before complaining about it and spreading legitimately harmful discourse.
So, to recap:
-it’s normal for teenagers to have suggestive thoughts about each other and it’s normal to write it
-writing teenagers having sexual thoughts and making out with each other is not sexualizing, fellow queer ppl who think this literally why do u hate ur community so much 😑
-anything short of an explicit smut scene between minors is fine as long as it’s done accurately and respectfully
-it is still weird to write explicit smut in the byler fandom specifically (and any other ship between teens in ST) just bc you’d be describing the bodies of real people that were minors until very recently with actors who have stated that they’re not comfortable being sexualized like that, but first and foremost…
-…if something makes you uncomfortable or you don’t like it, simply don’t interact
-stop shaming queer teenagers for being physically attracted to each other, and stop idealizing teenage queer love as something completely pure and innocent, if you’re going to do that, please keep it to yourself
If after reading this post you 1). want to block me bc you think this whole post was sexualization or 2). plan to use this argument as an excuse to actually sexualize minors and write hardcore explicit smut between them, block me. Weird reformed purity culture is not welcome on my blog and neither are people who enjoy sexualizing minors. Fuck you ❤️
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notmyprey · 4 months ago
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Small vent cause I swear I keep seeing this, and it just bugs me. Im not angry, I'm mostly just sad that this is where we are right now.
Guys, can we not harass others. Unless they are hurting others, what is harassment going to do? Make them sad? Make them hate themselves?
People can, in fact, have different likes and opinions than you. As long as they are not actively hurting people, hating others, or being mean, what is wrong with what they are doing?
Liking sfw vore, extreme cuddling, or any of its other names is not something that one should be harassed over.
Likeing vore in a sexual light is not something to be harassed over.
Liking it both ways is ok, too.
Also, the fact that some people are going out of their ways to harass people who like vore (sfw or nsfw) in a fatal/digestion context is so sad.
I personally dont find vore sexual. I personally dont like fatal (in the sense that the prey is dead completely and isn't a ghost or anything that still has a presence).
But here is the thing. I dont need to like and/or understand it to respect it. I dont need to like spiders to respect people who keep them as pets. I dont need to like the idea of having children to respect those who do.
People. You dont need to understand their feelings. You dont need to feel the same way. But they are people too. They have feelings. They are more than just text on a screen.
I know I may seem like a flat, one dimensional person since I post 1 type of content here, and thats how many people who like vore make their blogs too, but I am a human behind the screen.
Just, please. Respect others. I know, many people here are hurt. I know many people here have trust issues, and unfortunately, a draw of the vore community is that need for trust. But having healthy boundaries, having a healthy outlet that's not an anger filled rant (*will elaborate on what I mean at the bottom of this), and having someone to ask "can you make sure this is me talking, and not just my initial reaction" are things this community needs to work on.
If I were to give any advice, it would be to wait a minute before you post a vent, rant, or anything along those lines. Walk away for a minute, come back, and reread it. You may find that some of what you type is your initial anger, fear, or hurt speaking, not you.
I want your real voice to be heard, yall, and sometimes to do that, you need to step back for a moment. So before you send that hate message, before you post that rant, please ask yourself:
"Is that me, or what I was taught"
* I want to elaborate on what I mean by anger filled rant.
What I consider an anger filled rant is when someone finds something they dont like, and decid to attack it.
Instead of making something informative, they make something emotion filled. This isn't always bad. But this can be bad if the thing they are attacking is something that is not hurting others or themselves.
So in short, what I mean by anger filled rant is, a rant that attacks something that is not harmful.
I dont condone harassment towards anyone, but I do understand an angry rant if it is about someone who is hurting others. Again, that is not the thing I am referencing. I am not saying someone being angry at another for hurting people is wrong, it isnt. People should be angry at people getting hurt.
So yah, thank you all for reading this. I just needed to get this out there.
Guys, btw, this is not sfw interaction only for me (if you're rb you wanna make sfw only thats ok, def enforce your own boundaries) cause:
1. I feel like this is important for both sides
2. I have a 'if I dont see you, I dont care' rule cause I have given up on trying to blog all nsfw ppl lol. Sides they aren't monsters or anything. Just ppl. Still dont want them rbing or commenting, but liking my stuff is fine.
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destinyc1020 · 8 months ago
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Tom's fans are different, but they speak the facts. It's absolutely normal to want a successful project for your favorite actor because his work and talent should be recognized. It's also normal when you want to see activity on Tom's part. Sometimes some of Tom's fans are negative, but in many ways they are honest, to me they are much better than some hypocritical TZ fans who claim to be equally staned Tom and Zendaya, but in fact they are Zendaya's fans first and foremost. By the way, your theory is very interesting and I think to some extent I can agree with it. But at the same time, it amuses me how sometimes you are too optimistic or do not notice serious problems with some things related to Tom
I mean, I don't mind if fans are honest about their faves. I've always said that I'm 100% honest here on my blog about how I feel about a variety of people and topics. 🤷🏾‍♀️
But to me, it seems as though some fans of Tom (notice I said SOME) can be a bit harsh on him, or complain about things that in the grand scheme of things, really aren't big deals in the long run. 🤷🏾‍♀️
Or, they'll make blanket negative statements that aren't even true, like, "it's normal to want a successful project for your favorite actor" (as if Tom hasn't had MULTIPLE successful projects already?? 🥴🤔), or, you"want to see activity on his part" (as if, we don't get Tom content either through himself, friends, and or family on a REGULAR basis). Look, some actors out here don't even have social media at all, or never post, or don't have their parents posting content about them. 🤷🏾‍♀️ Yet, ppl are still their fans.
I've already made peace with the fact that we're not going to get the same social media happy Tom that we got in 2017. I've made peace with that with both Tom AND Zendaya tbh. If smthg harms my fave and their mental and emotional health, I'm not going to be upset if they're not posting on social media.
I will agree with you that a lot of Tom's fans are actually fans of him by extention of Zendaya, his gf. But he can't help that. 🤷🏾‍♀️ Their stars happened to rise at the same time due to their Spiderman movie that they were in together. Many fans of Z were fans of her BEFORE she got to the level that she is today though, but it's not a bad thing imo?
But at the same time, it amuses me how sometimes you are too optimistic or do not notice serious problems with some things related to Tom
I just feel like Tom's fans are a bit hard on him, and undermine his success already in the industry all the time (his R&J PLAY sold out in like 2 hours!!!) Like, c'mon. 😏
And what "serious problems" are there related to Tom exactly? Is he on drugs? Is he wilding out? Does he look depressed? Is he looking homeless? Has he lost a ton of weight in a short amount of time? Is he acting crazy out in these streets? To me, those are "serious problems" and signs that an actor is going through smthg. All the other stuff you've mentioned aren't "serious problems" imo Anon.
Yes, we all want great things for our fave actors, and of course we wish them the best! 😃 But unless there are some serious issues going on in that actor's life, we need to know our place as FANS, and let an actor live his (or her) life! Actors usually only film about 1 or 2 films a year (if THAT), and the rest of the time, they're working bts, negotiating other future projects, promoting current projects, or simply just taking a break. When you're at Tom's level of success, you can afford to take longer breaks if needed. He's been working and going non-stop for over 7 years. If the man wants to take a break, his fans should be okay with that. Jmho 🤷🏾‍♀️
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ca-suffit · 6 months ago
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I generally *don't* dislike devils minion as a ship. I like it even...But sometimes I think about blocking it even though there is good content i like to see on it.
But the tag is filled with people who hate loumand, people who try to put shippers down. I don't see that much hate even from loustat fans.
One of the things I repeatedly see that gets on my nerves is the "armand pays more attention to daniel in dubai then he does to louis" take.
I understand they probably will happen in following seasons. But to think that armand was secretly in love with daniel the whole time in dubai is such a weird take to me. Do you think it has any base or is it just the fans trying to push their own narrative? Am I crazy to think that armand looked like he was completely in love with louis in dubai, despite their problems, and didn't really care about daniel outside of louis?
I get that they will get together in the future and i will support them and nod along when that happens. But they clearly didn't happen in season 2. There was just too much resentment on both sides and they both clearly cared more about louis. Am i crazy to think that?
I think first of all that ppl should relax trying to attack each other over which ships they like or not. it's pointless and everyone is with everyone else eventually so there's no reason to be going at each other about any of it. this was way less intense before the show aired bcuz everyone was white. now it's insane bcuz there's a lot of racist motivations fueling the protection or rejection of these ships. we can all just breathe (this is a general statement, not rly aimed at u).
secondly tho. I think the show has made a lot of things intentionally ambiguous. I can't say one way or another what armand is thinking bcuz the way he looks at daniel at times could read either way. he *is* focused on daniel in one sense bcuz daniel is *the enemy.* once armand was no longer rashid, he could more directly confront daniel and he did (not like being rashid stopped him fully anyway but lol). but there's times he's uncharacteristically gentler on daniel than louis is, like during the engagement mind-reading fuckery. I think it's meant to read as both, if u have awareness of DM. I don't think it's meant to be THERE there rn but a detail to notice and think is kind of fun (hard for this fandom to do tho, ik lol).
idk when DM is meant to take place in this universe, but I think there's something to be said about viewing all of them after 2x5. armand has remembered that entire thing the whole time and yet they're back here again. he'd otherwise erased both of their memories so neither one remembered the "fascinating" segment and he prbly figured the risk of louis thinking that again after so much time and in a different mindset was v low. but louis is still talking to the man he said was more fascinating as a stranger than armand had been for decades. and they're talking about lestat again. "ur going to teach me how to be fascinating" is prbly still in there somewhere. armand is always watching both of them bcuz he still wants to know what this means and why it happened.
it kind of mirrors jonah in S1. even tho louis doesn't explicitly tell lestat not to touch him, we learn that he lived to old age too. it makes claudia's death even worse but anyway I'm getting kind of OT.
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but he definitely is v invested in louis too and is putting a lot into making the relationship look good. some of my fav parts are from some of those scenes tbh, when he's just smiling and recounting memories with louis in front of daniel. or even when he runs out as rashid to stop louis from attacking daniel again over claudia's diaries in S1, which now has more context knowing their history and louis' desire to not have harm come to daniel.
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enemywasp · 7 months ago
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OMFG A PROSHIPPER !!+! SAME BUT I HAVE TO HIDE MY IDENTITY BC EVERYONE HAS DNI PROSHIP IN BIO LIKE WHY?????
UMMMMM ..... Rant bc it's so rare to find a kindred spirit in this shitty immature ""war""
it fr just means i believe we should ship and let ship??? why is the "i don't judge u for your preferences" thing seen as bad idfk like. it's fucking fiction.
if it's problematic then I don't condone it irl. but I'm human. I have curiosities and shit. Like,, ppl don't listen to true crime bc they condone murder and ppl don't go calling true crime fans murderers. so WHYYYY is shipping any different, in fact it's b e t t e r bc at least fiction. isn't. real.
like why tf is what i ship anyone else's business??? unless it's bc we have smthn in common to bond over, why tf do ppl care abt the ships we don't have in common.
istg ship wars are crazy af and this whole pro- anti- ship shit is just another way to try to control smthn that doesn't need controlling.
it's like U said no one fucking cares abt it irl and the damn DEATH THREATS ppl get over **not giving a damn what other people ship** instead of being the fucking fandom shipper police or smthn is disgusting and i hate that im never allowed to talk abt this w/out ppl hating me and calling me a disgusting monster.
why can't I just do what I fucking want when in my own privacy while not causing any harm???
like ppl are so damn delusionalllllllll!!!!.!.!.!
-> some proshippers just mean they support any and all ships bc fiction is fiction
-> some proshippers ship "problematic" ships and that is FINE because it is NOT REAL and THEY ARE NOT HURTING ANYONE and i meannnnm ppl are curious right. they gonna explore alien concepts some way or another. why tf would ppl stop them from exploring it in a safe. healthy. fictional. harmless. way.
why is it that it's okay to consume problematic content but not okay to ship problematic ships?? literally what is the fucking difference ships are a subgenre of content.
if you think it's okay to be a fan of lotr or american psycho or some shit then it is damn hypocritical to say it isn't okay to ship something problematic. same thing if you think it's okay to stan/simp for a villain character.
it's only even called ~problematic~ bc that's how the relationship would be if it were real. which it isn't. so it isn't fucking problematic bc it's fictional content and the ppl shipping it do not condone the irl versions.
also sidenote,,, why tf are proshippers and multishippers grouped together in the dni stuff?? they are not related. a multishipper just. ships the same character w/ more than just one (1) other character. how is that problematic too?????
okay sorreryyyyyy i just have so many thoughts on this that im never allowed to share pls feel free to let this one collect dust in the inbox. or just straight up delete it lol.
Do not apologise! I love a good rant!
If you want to interact with proshippers more the tags "proshipper", "proshippers pls interact" and "proship positivity" are usually very nice and lots of wonderful people post there!
And you could always make a side account for proship stuff if you want to be able to take a break from the intense pro vs anti stuff if and when it gets too much, whilst still having a place to enjoy that stuff.
Honestly I think a lot of the issue is people seem to take the word "ship" as their ideal relationship. Less so than a dynamic they enjoy in fiction. But I don't know, I can't pretend to understand the mind of antis.
Proshippers and multishippers getting clumped together is probably linked to the idea that a ship is a pairing you want to see canon and shows actually pandering to ship wars lately. Or maybe people are just weird!
Everyone takes shipping way too seriously now and acts like a fictional pairings existence will romanticise the topic and brainwash kids. My general rule is that its for fun, who cares ?
And feel free to rant in my inbox whenever! It's always open to anyone. Glad you could get that off your chest :)
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hanasnx · 1 year ago
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some updates while i’m here. i miss you! whether you’re a casual enjoyer of my blog & i see you in my notes, or my mutuals, or my followers, i’ve been thinking of you :) rare vulnerable moment i do cherish this blog and all your well wishes. thank you very much. i was right, typing is a huge strain and taking a break has been very good for my hands, so i’m going to keep at it.
some things:
don’t be afraid to keep sending me asks! they’re a great joy to me, i love seeing a notif in the inbox. i’ve gotten a fair few already that i’m excited to respond to when i can come back.
i did post a fred weasley drabble and not that i have to explain myself but i wanted to say i’ve been watching the harry potter movies. i’ve never seen them in their entirety, and the earlier ones have always been christmas movies in my house so to speak so i figured id give them a fair shot. i did read the books, and i’ve seen bits and pieces of the movies (hence my interest in fred weasley when i was a tween, but seeing him again made me wanna write for him for the first time in years)
also! a very kind anon told me earlier that my response to someone wrongfully making an ai chat bot of my content was an overreaction. it was “not that deep,” i believe was the colloquial term used. so the inherent content theft of ai invading free creative spaces is solved everyone! well done! very special thanks to the anon that let me know i was overreacting towards something i am passionate about and had a strong feeling towards! wow :) i never would’ve seen it like that. genuinely i am sorry anon that you’re ugly irl and your mommy doesn’t love you, which is why you feel like you can’t have a backbone over certain things. maybe you should stop consuming the free content creators provide on tumblr because you feel so secure in criticizing the selfless service <3 it’s giving: “im an old bigot that thinks ppl must be talentless and stupid when they work at mcdonald’s, but i’m still going to eat the food from there.” you’ve been blocked btw so you’re not offended by my use of free will when making free content on the internet for your grubby little hands to get a hold of and your smooth brain to criticize my right to share my personal opinions.
because the internet is the way it is, getting “hate” online has never really bothered me since i’ve always been a person with a large enough platform for years. it’s very easy for me to ignore and block and never answer whoever has decided to send some worthless hate message. which is probably why i almost never get hate anymore but it does happen occasionally. this was different since it wasn’t an attack on me per se, more so someone trying to admonish me for having a fair reaction towards something offensive. so i’m here to tell you it’s alright to treat strangers on the internet as strangers. you’re allowed to reinforce boundaries. you’re allowed to tell people you do not appreciate their actions towards you, and don’t leave room for argument. i am a very direct person, which means i told that person firmly that they needed to delete that ai chat bot they made of my au without my consent. and i did it without remorse. and i was told “it wasn’t that deep.” well it was. and it is. it is that deep because it’s deep to me, and i know it’s something that happens to others and it is that deep to them too. so what’s the problem in it being that deep? there is none :) let things be deep. be sincere. it is very important.
also if you make ai chat bots without creator’s consent when using their content you’re a piece of shit and doing a disservice to the very person you’re trying to exalt. take a step back and reevaluate how ai harms your interests rather than progresses them as well as the creators you claim your respect and cherish. you’re a victim of propaganda, my friend! and i prolly wouldn’t have made this post if anon hadn’t said anything. so maybe they should’ve kept their mouth shut since they didn’t wanna see shit like this so bad lmfao
now that that’s out of the way, i am sending wet fat sloppy kisses to everyone’s lips tell me when you receive them
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macrotiis · 5 months ago
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I do kinda think there is a thing in kink where it's different in fantasy vs reality, but I also don't like the way some ppl approach that subject in that they think it means they can just do whatever they want.
Like I guess you kinda can, nobody can really force you to stop, but I also think it's dumb to act like other ppl are bigots if they want to avoid you for your pedo incest fantasies, real or not.
I don't think ppl should like seek out that material & publicly expose you for what you do in your own space if you are being responsible, or harass you. But I do think some responsibility on your part is required to keep that in spaces where its allowed & out of places its not, & that you should respect that most ppl have their reasons to hate it.
I also think it's on you to think about the kind of audience you're cultivating if & when you post such content online. It's niave & dangerous to act like there aren't predators online who are drawn to your content. I don't think you're fully to blame if these ppl do use your work to harm others, but I do think you should at least try to minimize the chances of that happening in any way that you can.
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ilikeyoshi · 1 month ago
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also hiiiiii it's been a while so i wanted to make a post for newer followers about how i tag words like q***r/d*ke/etc!!! 💞 (and also solidify it for myself hehe. i've censored them here to ensure ppl see this and can block whatever tags they need/want to!)
i usually tag non-malicious uses of these words with "q word", "d word", etc, as over the years i've come to the general conclusion that i think ppl whose identities are described by these words can reclaim and use them non-maliciously, and it feels weird to call them slurs in that context. this is just a me thing; i completely understand and sympathize if you feel differently, which is why i still tag it with something for those who don't want to see posts containing those words at all!
IN the unlikely event i share something including any of those words used maliciously/inappropriately (whether in a hypothetical quote or a real quote), i tag it as "q slur", "d slur", etc, in cases of people who don't mind it being used in a reclaimed context but DO mind it being used in a bigoted context. this includes posts where the word is used with the intent of doing harm, as well as posts where the word may be being used in a friendly or memey way but by a person who cannot reclaim that word (whensoever i am able to confirm this is the case).
i mainly used q***r/d*ke as examples because those are words i can and feel comfortable reclaiming (meaning i also use them casually at times myself, but i still tag them!), but this goes for any reclaimable word/slur! you might see "t word/slur", "f word/slur", "r word/slur", "n word/slur" and so on. my goal here is to try and accommodate as many people as possible, as these words can, have been, and still are used today to hurt members of marginalized communities. i do not take a particular side on whether or not these words SHOULD be reclaimed, as i think that's up to individuals and not something anyone can decide for a community at large. but i AM sympathetic to people who've been hurt by these words, many of whom are some of my dearest friends, and it's important to me that i can both respect people's choice to reclaim AND people's trauma.
furthermore, if there are any other words like those i've listed that i haven't or am not tagging, i'd appreciate a message about it! i'd also appreciate any insight on including the n word the way i have, as while i think it might be applicable in the same way, i am white and am therefore far more divorced from the history of that word than any lgbt+ or abled words with a malicious history. (to be honest, i don't see myself reblogging a post containing that word used as a slur to begin with, as i try to avoid platforming bigots' own dialogue, especially against groups i am not a part of. but i'd still appreciate any insight regarding these kinds of far-removed-from-my-experience words!)
i'd also like to say there are certain words i probably will never tag, such as "gay", "lesbian", "cis", etc. this is because these words either were never slurs, or their usage in malicious ways is largely archaic or significantly overwhelmed by how they're used neutrally/descriptively. the words i choose to tag in this manner have been chosen based on their modern usages and my own discretion. i hope that makes sense! you can always still block the words themselves in the content blacklist, and i'm open to polite discussion about it; i do not know everything and am open to the possibility there are things i should be tagging by my own described criteria and am not.
okay thank you have a nice rest of your day!!! 🙇‍♂️
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murachinchi · 1 year ago
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Hello, I'm only sending you this because your posts randomly appeared on my Tumblr feed when I followed the tag tanjirou kamado here. I understand that you might have your personal reasons to post this sort of content, but it just disturbed me. As you are aware, Tanjirou is a 15 year-old boy. I think it is harmful for the community of KnY for such content to be posted online where teenagers or anyone could see. Not to mention that you do not only ship Tanjirou with who we assume to be an old man, but you often infantilize him. You draw him excessively small in comparison to Hantengu, and even his body (which is the body of a 15 year-old male) is feminine and childish. If you compare Tanjirou from the anime with your version of him, that should be clear. You also posted Hantengu having s*x with him, which is far from acceptable. Considering you are over 20 years old, you should know that this contributes to the problem of child p*rn being accessible online. You might not be aware of it, but your type of content is consumed by predators. I am not calling you one, but I think I should point this out. My intention here is not to offend you or harm you in any way, but rather to voice my frustration. And if you post this online for others to see, including people like me, you should expect to be held accountable for such issues.
hi pls don't compare drawing of fictional character to actual CSEM it's very disrespectful and inappropriate 
as of my stuff, you spent some time enough to scroll through my feed to even find nsfw instead of just blocking me. i get that ppl find it disturbing but all u can do is block me or just scroll pass it. i don't even use his tag when posting nsfw stuff its all sfw. I also don't understand ur infantalize bit. if u don't like my depiction of tanjiro the block button is over there. 
also predators "consuming" my stuff is out of my control. those ppl would seek a perfectly normal and innocent stuff for their sick behavior.
i get being frustrated cause i was like that too. blocking and muting tags and accounts works wonder cause then i don't have to see it anymore. it's the internet u cannot stop ppl from posting smtg u don't like no matter the reason. all we can do is curate our own feed and do our own thing.
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natashasbitxh · 11 months ago
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this is gonna be long, but,
i used to be into youtube fandoms alot but the only ones ive retained are dan and phil and smosh. i was big on phan but i fell out of it years ago, i still like them but im more of a causal viewer than a rabid racoon frothing at the mouth every time some content drops.
(and also realised, as im no longer a teenager anymore, how shipping real people together is tricky and there are boundaries you dont cross and should be handled a particular way)
smosh ships were cute but nothing really stuck to me. don't get me wrong they all have chemistry but GOD DOES SHAYNSE GIVE!!?? IM A RACOON ONCE AGAIN
oh my god the way ive been sucked into shanyse. the smosh pit theatre was my awakening LIKE WTF THERE'S CHEMISTRY?? then i did the customary tumblr tag search and now im re-watching every video shayne and chanse has appeared together.
im sorry for all this but i gathered you were sort of a pioneer for the ship, so it felt right to confess on here
I relate so hard with ur comment on phan, I feel the fandom has gone thru a massive transformation and feels so much for chill now! Ppl have grown and are taking into account Phil and Dan a lot more!
Yes! Rpf is a tough area! I've said it before but the most important thing is the ppl themselves and their feelings! If Shayne or Chanse (or anybody from Smosh or that knows them tbh) asked me to stop, I would in a heartbeat! I, of course, would never intend any harm! And we see such a small snippet of their lives, its truly just based off their internet personas. My one rule is that u shouldn't go out of ur way to shove rpf into the ppl's faces unless they've said their okay with it! (Example: Them finding a fic by themselves is not the fault of the author, but the author sending it to them constantly crosses some boundaries)
Okay sorry, just wanted to make my thoughts clear!! Back to shaynse!!
OMG I'M SO HAPPY U FEEL THAT WAY!! I have felt that way since I thought of the ship but back then there was NO content for them!! Not even a ship name! (@jovenshires came up with the ship name). So it almost made me feel crazy or wrong for thinking of it, I'm so happy it's been well received!!
I feel like once u see it, u can't unsee it! That theater vid has done sm for shaynse nation! However, its just below the love is blind vid because that is literally shaynse day🫶🫶
Never apologise!! I love hearing other ppls thoughts and discussing!! And thank u for calling me the pioneer for this ship, it truly is an honour! I've been called it a couple times now so I might add it to my blog, I just hope I don't look big-headed 😭
And just an overall message to anybody that sees this, I welcome conversation abt ANY smosh ship, as long as it's appropriate! (I'm not sure what to give as an example, but I'd let u know if it's not appropriate)
Thank you, anon!
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11queensupreme11 · 1 year ago
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Dude idk if you have seen this TikTok before but it was basically some random utahime x gojo shipper saying that while heading to the gojo vs sukuna fight the way utahime was standing next to gojo apparently meant that they were married and that the way utahime was dressed meant that she was pregnant so that means they banged so they can continue the gojo bloodline??? 😭😭 and then I saw that I was like “wtf dude is heading to the biggest fight of his life and y’all are just thinking he just had time to bang and marry someone” Their whole ass page was DEDICATED to saying that gojo x geto never made any sense and that utahime and gojo are better and have better chemistry💀… I swear utahime x gojo shippers are another level of delulu
for me, it was always satosugo that was "delulu" (and this is coming from a stsg shipper too!) and just mlm shippers in general. i've noticed a lot of stsg shippers (on twitter) harrass gojohime shippers ("they don't even LIKE each other" "they barely interact, why would you ship them" "you guys are just homophobic cuz wtf is this") and act as if their ship is the superior one. a lot of mlm shippers in general like to act as shipping two dudes together is a form of activism and anyone who doesn't have an mlm ship is a homophobe 💀
ever since i got a twitter, i've slowly delved away from shipping cuz man can shippers be TOXIC. shipping's supposed to be fun. it's literally just us making two barbie dolls kiss and make up stories for them, THATS LITERALLY ALL WE'RE DOING 😭 but so many ppl are being so cruel over it by doxxing and making up lies about other ppl cuz they don't like their ships
as long as the tiktoker stayed respectful and didn't harass anyone or say anything homophobic towards stsg shippers, i don't really care if they're "delulu". shippers like to ship stuff after all. they can do whatever they want with their fictional characters, but if they start harming REAL PEOPLE over their nonexistent uwu babies, then you should report them or block them
but if they're not harming ppl, then just ignore them and don't interact with their posts. tiktok algorithm will assume you enjoy gojohime content and show you more on ur "for you" page
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rad-lightning-boy · 1 year ago
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what exactly did frank iero do. other than problematic tweets that he made in like 2009 (over a decade ago). like people intentionally try to engage with him in a way where he gives them ‘sass’ or rubs them and that’s his brand
TW. harassment, suicide, self harm, cyber bullying, death threats
Before I get into it, I'm really glad that someone asked about this because I've been meaning to make a post about it. Thanks for asking about it.
I'd recommend checking out @ patheticjunkievampire on Instagram (and possibly twitter? I'm not completely sure if they've said much about it on there) they mostly talk about that incident when frank made a tweet saying smth along the lines of "is you see any accounts saying that they're me reply with "STRANGER DANGER"".
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The account he was referring to (patheticvampirejunkie) was literally just posting MCR themed photography- they never claimed to be frank and yet he sent his entire fanbase to essentially harass this person (again, all they did was post photography.)
If you go back and check their first post, a lot of the comments are just "STRANGER DANGER". I know that might not seem like a lot rn but it gets worse.
They posted a lot on their story after they finished the set (I'm not sure what the word for that is. The MCR themed photos they did all counted down from 64 (the beginning) to 1 (the end)) they talked about how the MCR fandom and specifically frank Stans have made their mental health significantly worse than it was when they started posting.
They would post screenshots of interactions they've had with Frank Stans and it's sickening. They received death threats, and messages like "you should kill yourself" and ppl would tell them to cut themselves.
Patheticjunkievampire has also stated before that they've struggles with suicide and self harm in the past, so the fact that these hardcore stans used this against them is sick.
A few people reached out to patheticjunkievampire and told them about experiences they've personally had with Frank. This person gave a platform to people who have had bad experiences with him (ik you cant tell whether someone is a dick or not purely based of some people's experiences, but there were a lot and they were all relatively similar. So to me, these stories that people shared seemed extremely possible since the things he did just suddenly seemed like something he would do.)
The frank stans didn't like that this person was giving a chance for people who had bad experiences with him to express their feelings. They received so much hate for simply saying their opinion.
This all took place on Instagram and Twitter. Obviously depending on what platform you use and engage with MCR content, you're gonna be around different people. The ppl on Tumblr seem way more accepting and open to criticism of their fav band, the ppl on twitter and Instagram are way different.
In my opinion it's kinda weird that frank hasn't really said anything about it. He's literally always online, how tf has he not even heard of any of this??
Another thing I just wanna add (doesn't have anything to do with patheticjunkievampire but I still think it's worth adding) frank sold a bunch of his old stuff. Which isn't inherently bad or anything but...
He was advertising a bunch of old clothes and instruments he had during the MCR era, so he was clearly targeting his fans (his young fans). He was advertising extremely old shitty clothes (that you can find way cheaper literally anywhere else) and he sold them for like X4 (at least) of the original prices. He claimed (for the instruments at least) that he wanted to know that they were being played, because he obviously can't play all those instruments at once.
In that case, if the main reason that he was getting rid of all these instruments... Why didn't he just donate them?? Why did he have to heavily advertise his store to his fans and then sell all his old ratty shitty clothes for such a huge profit? Just doesn't seem ethical to me tbh...
TL:DR
My main problem with Frank is that he, not only, picks on people on twitter, but he makes that kind of behaviour acceptable. By not apologizing or taking accountability for these things, he makes this behaviour (harassment, death threats, cyber bullying, telling ppl to kill themselves or hurt themselves) an okay thing to do. His fans are so toxic and will defend him so much to the point where if you literally just say that you don't like him, they will harass and spam you with really triggering things.
I really hope this clears that up. He's definitely done other things but I couldn't remember them- if anyone has anything else to add please do.
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scourgefrontiers · 1 year ago
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not to be that guy again
but i also dont fuck with anybody who talks about "anti culture" or anything like that when it comes to how shit's portrayed in fiction. i super try to stay out of "proship vs anti" discourse bc its stupid as shit and i have other things to worry about than internet discourse. but i still cant help but express my beliefs which relate to the core argument
dont make me tap the sign. fictional exploration of pedophilia/incest/abuse/etc at all isnt the problem, its the way its portrayed. if youre out here portraying that shit as bad and inexcusable, then youre fine. if youre exploring it in a way that doesnt defend it, then youre fine. if youre out here saying that a 40 year old man getting it on with a 14 year old is cute or sexy, or that two brothers having a sloppy makeout is hot, then yeah im going to burn your house down with you in it
the thing about the "what about fictional murder??? ppl romanticize that all the time and you dont see people turning into murderers irl!" argument is that. well. people dont groom people with murder fics. ppl dont show others art of their favs getting murdered and then try to use that to justify them murdering someone. that just doesnt happen. what Does happen is that ppl use incest/pedophilic ships and art portraying it in a "cute" or "fun" light and they use that to justify their grooming actions. that does happen. ive Seen it happen.
and no, im not saying that getting rid of this depiction of these subjects in media or fanworks is going to Stop All Grooming. thats silly. i know that if theyre going to groom someone theyre going to find a way to do it anyway, im not an idiot. but all im saying is that this shit makes it easier, makes it more accessible, and may even make it more normalized, which i hope you can agree is a bad thing.
exploration is one thing! lots of gothic media has "problematic" shit like that in it. lots of fiction has gross shit that the author doesnt condone irl, theyre just exploring it through writing. however, romanticization is another thing. portraying it as cute and fun is another thing. trying to excuse it by saying its fiction is another thing. thats when you ascend to freak status in my book.
youre not ~making a statement~ by declaring yourself a Proud Proshipper--at least not the one you think you are. youre giving me the signal that you dont care about how certain subjects are portrayed even if theyre harmful, and youre telling me that i should stay far the fuck away from you.
last thing i'll say on this is that for the record i am also against purity culture. i dont think ppl should be watering down media to be Acceptable and Pure all the goddamn time. i dont think ppl should stay away from "problematic" media entirely as long as they can use their brains and be critical and not excuse or defend said problematic content. everything is problematic bitch lets get you some fruit. yknow? theres nuance and context to everything; things arent black and white. trying to take the problems out of everything is a waste of effort and frankly makes everything boring as shit. having said all this, the way things are portrayed and how you interact with them are still important factors and i will stand by that
aight rant over o7
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dearweirdme · 1 year ago
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Hi i'm the same anon that talked to you about jk not seeming like a good bf.
Thank you for your answer but I think i may not explained my idea well, I didn't mean it like he should try to look a certain way in his relationship with tae bc I understand the closeting, what I say it's that based in some of his actions he in a personal level to me, doesn't look like a good bf and not even as a good friend (for the ones who don't want to believe that they are together) and that's bc he chooses to do things that at large harm tae and I know some of you don't think he 'feeds' jokers , that may not have been the correct word for what I want to say but he must know how the fandom reacts to anything jkook and how they twist it for their fantasies (and yes sometimes they themselves do feed the fantasy but lately not as much as some ppl think)
And I know they know bc tae definitely knows, we all have see him react to jkookery before and I suspect that tae even knows that he is massively hated by these shippers and that might be some of the reasons he doesn't mention jk like before and it's very careful and if tae knows there's no way that jk who very clearly shares a life with him and it's constantly in soc media doesn't know too, they all know and yet he is still does things that will have the same ppl who hate on his partner or friend content and happy.
So tae has to limit himself when it's about him and be hyperaware bc he will be hated and harassed but the others can do whatever they want even when it will result in the same ppl who hate on his bandmate feeling braver and affirmed, why does tae have to be aware of repercussions of such a simple thing like him talking about jk and the others don't?
I even suspect that jk isn't saying anything about tae's release rn even though he is in social media commenting stuff and liking things bc it will attract the negative attention of #those fans to tae when this is such an important moment of his career but in this scenario it means that jk is aware of the hate tae receives and that a lot of it come from these shippers and he still isn't being careful of the repercussions.
I also don't think is casual that the jkookery ramped up during Jm's debut where jjks were targeting jm harshly and during jk's were it was expected as they did that they would retaliate, even jokers were leaving jk... and pjms were instigating the hate towards jk even getting hit tweets talking bad about him of up to 5k likes, even before his debut they were harassing scooter Braun on Instagram, my guess it's that jkook are wanting to show their closeness to their fans to try to attenuate the insane hatred and competition their fans have and that is potentially dangerous for them. I mean jjks really made a mess during jm's debut and pjms were doing hashtags, trying to get blinks on their side and even planning something for jk's ikingayo and jokers were leaving jk and shading him all along. If not for that shirtless live a lot would have left and it happened just before his ikingayo so my opinion is that jkook are protecting themselves but where does this leave tae? For them to protect themselves they choose to make happy and brave the same ppl who harass his bandmate? Knowing they will twist every little thing for their fantasies? Idk I just find a lot of things unfair, and if that's the case I think is very dangerous to allow a group of very sick delusional ppl to fester without any measure to shut down their delusions, they are already rabid and next time that they have to acknowledge Tk's intimacy they will have a meltdown that will harm tae and spike the hate towards him as it usually happens but worse bc they are feeling in heaven rn and when reality hits they will be mad and we know who will be the target, i mean nothing has happened with tk and they won't stop targeting
This turned so long sorry if it's all over the place I hope you understand
Hi again anon!
No, I did understand you the first time. I was trying to convey that we cannot really say anything about what kind of boyfriend/friend Jk is, because we don't see that part of his/their lives. We don't know if Jk makes a bath for Tae every night, or if he brings him breakfast in bed, or how he supports him during hard times (though I think we've seen hints of it, that you might not have picked up on). You are basing your thoughts on Jk as a boyfriend on what you do see, and that is just not representative of their private lives imo. If he can't show his relationship in public, and if we don't see much of their private lives... then how are we able to qualify his boyfriendyness?
You think Jk feeds shippers, I don't. I think he does engage in fanservice, and maybe that is what makes you think he feeds shippers. But, Jk engages in fanservice with all members, even Tae. His close bond with Jimin does make the lines blurry, I agree... but I don't think it is Jk's intention to make Jkkrs hold on to their believes. Think of what the alternative would be. For instance, you probably look at the Jimin live he did and the instance of him asking Jimin to do a live together a week or so ago as feeding shippers. I think Jk just loves Jimin (platonically) and therefore wants to do these things. It's not premeditated, he sees Jimin online... and thinks "there's my friend, I want to react." . He does not think, 'yes, this is a moment Jkkrs will like". He's allowed to freely interact with his friend the way he chooses. Their friendship should not be under the influence of shippers. If he were to consider shippers in everything he does, all spontaneity will be lost.
I think you presume that vminkook haven't talked about these things. Those three men are in a weird position. Neither ship can be denied (assuming Tae and Jk are in fact together). Tae and Jimin get strong hate from the other ship's side, while being close friends. Jk is always in the middle and is being seen as a bad boyfriend by both sides. It's not a nice situation. But, you are forgetting that these men have known each other closely, as best friends, for more than ten years. Jimin has seen Jk and Tae fall in love. He has seen how hard it has been. He has supported them through it. Tae and Jk have seen what this meant for Jimin as well. I am sure they have talked about how to deal with this. I think they have decided to let their friendship come first, which means that Jk and Jimin do not have to hold back on their interactions. Tae knows what fanservice is and he knows that Jimin is not actually a risk to him. Jimin isn't going to steal Jk. Did Tae have trouble dealing with Jikook interactions, yes.. at times he did. We have seen jealousy and moments that made it clear Tae did not like what he saw. I think the problem in those moments was that he was unable to just tell them in the moment "hey, that's my man". And probably some times his tolerance for Jkk interactions was high, and sometimes it was low.
From our side things look very different than they do from members' side. We only see what it's shown. And since the company has favoured Jkk moments over Tkk moments, that is what we see a lot. It feels unbalanced. But for the members, this is probably completely different. They have seen each other every day for hours at a time. They know what the real balance is like. So they don't judge situations the same as we do. I have talked about the Taekook stare from the vminkook live recently. That to me is very telling about how fandom and members differ in judging situations.
It's a tricky situation anon and there's really no easy way out of it for them. I think that's why Jk said recently it's better not to adress these sensitive topics, because it will be mayhem if they ever do. It's not great for any of them, including Jk, because he get's hate himself and he has to stand by and watch his bf and his best friend get hate because of it.
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