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I FINISHED THE THING (part 1)!!!
My brother's gf asked me for a sort of book-shaped container to put in her bookshelf as a Christmas gift, so she can put bookmarks and other things inside it. She wanted it to be Gideon themed and wanted me to design the cover, including the Ninth skull and a bone design plus the logo title, also asked for all the skulls of the houses in the spine (this was a lot of work so if you don't like how they turned out, don't tell me) and also wanted me to do the back blurb in the style of my recaps (here's what it says).
It took me longer than I thought it would but here we are, I really hope she likes it. I added felt in the bottom so it doesn't harm the bookshelf and it is less likely to slide or move. For some process description and photos, here's the read more.
I built the base with mdf wood and glued the pieces together, then used cold porcelain to sculpt the book over it. I designed the illustrations and drew them on pencil when it dried, then painted it all (the text for the back cover took a WHILE). Once dried, I varnished and then glued the felt piece in the bottom.
#luly reacts to tlt#gideon the ninth#my crafts#long post#the locked tomb#tlt#I also finished the enterprise bridge for the tree but I'll show you that maybe tomorrow#I was going to include a photo of the back with all the text#but 5 pics was too much lol idk
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I am not surviving this
#colors will most likely change for vist's clothing#i literally kept on going back and trying to change stuff while guessing wich tool did wich-#WIP#I'll finish the titna tomorrow..... maybe.... someday....... possibly in the ner future........#oc: vist#my art#posting this now because idk if i'll actually work on it tomorrow
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during her morning jog in the snow, arlie decided that today would be a good day. what better way to start it off than a coffee date with friends?
#chardonnay legacy#CL: G1#ts4 legacy#ts4 gameplay#going back to my roots of letting the game decide the story#played a longgg time today! which means friday#this should post tomorrow#but i think this weekend after i finish editing i'm just gonna NOT do sims lol#maybe i'll finish my book#oh and i need to wash my laundry#oh and we are starting the garden tomorrow#LIFE
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No way my dad just recommended Roswell new Mexico because "it has gays and aliens, you'll like it"
#I love him#Maybe I'll check it out#I'll go back home tomorrow so I can back on my usual shit posting and answering messages ❤️
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watched donington 2005 bc of your rec and loved it! do you have any more recs for interesting (and/or messy) wet races?
sure do! we're going to take a broad definition of 'wet' race here... there's also been some major rule changes this century, like bike swaps didn't used to be a thing - plus I'm not particularly inclined to check how each race was actually categorised. so for our purposes here, any race where I remember the track being wet playing a significant role counts
in honour of being incredibly inconsistent with the asterisk system, this time I've added * or ** by how much of a definite recommend it is as a wet race (also to be complete I'll include donington '05)
donington 2000*: valentino's first premier class win and a very valentino way to do it. absolute horror show of a start that drops him to thirteenth on lap one, and he picks his way through from there on the damp track. lovely little comeback ride as they wobble around - crucially at a time when vale did not have a good reputation as a wet weather racer. fun 3-way fight for the win
suzuka 2002**: the first ever motogp race in nasty nasty conditions, and features an unexpected starring performance from japanese wild card rider akira ryo who was very familiar with the track and where all the puddles were. valentino sticks behind him for much of this race, watching and learning. showcases valentino's approach rather nicely
le mans 2003: this one isn't wet for most of the race, and when it starts raining the race is interrupted. that being said, the sete/valentino duel in slippery conditions after the race resumes is fun and fiddly enough to justify its inclusion. banger of a last lap
mugello 2004: same as above - interrupted a few laps before the end for rain. the conditions are very uncertain when they resume, and the last few laps involves a multi-rider scrap between riders on slicks on a track that is very much not dry. fantastic race
shanghai 2005: conditions proper nasty start to finish, crazy amounts of spray. vale does the thing where he gives himself a bit of work to do and is 6th at some point during the first lap, though he's soon up to 2nd and goes about hunting down kenny roberts jr. in the end he disappears out front, so it's up to everyone else to make it exciting (mostly by struggling to stay on track)
donington 2005**: this one's a go-to pick for a reason. horrendous conditions, high attrition rate, lairy saves, a tense fight for the lead before valentino eventually feels comfortable enough to pull a painful margin on the field. classic race all round
phillip island 2006*: first ever bike swap race! late in the season so it's all very dramatic with the title fight - you've still got several different contenders at this stage with constantly changing fortunes. drama up and down the field until the very very end
donington 2007**: proper wet race and exactly what you want from these things, with the run order constantly chopping and changing. the winning rider spends a lot of time in a lot of different positions, great ride to fight his way through
sachsenring 2008: dani's leading the championship, vale crashed the last time out at assen before recovering to 11th, casey's won the last two races... all three of them have very different races in the full wet conditions. incidentally the last race before laguna
indy 2008*: proper fun scrap in appalling conditions! the usual suspects and also some more unusual suspects (that year anyway) scrapping it out at the sharp end of the race - and they really are going for it given the conditions. once stopped, there isn't a restart, though there's still that fun bit where casey joins valentino to (presumably) tell ezpeleta that they are not going back out there
le mans 2009*: my pitch for this one is that it has a claim to being the most embarrassing race of valentino's career. everything that could possibly go wrong did go wrong. I laugh every time I think about this race, but I suppose you have to admire his perseverance
mugello 2009*: yeah, this one's fun! bike swap race right after le mans so Certain Riders are playing it a bit safe... some great tussling and mixing it up and odd run orders in this one, just what you're looking for. incidentally the last race before catalunya
donington 2009*: another one for people who sometimes want to watch some very talented athletes embarrass themselves. casey has the mystery illness excuse for making a ridiculous tyre choice, but the others? lemme not speak. great chaotic shenanigans
sepang 2009: valentino's first matchpoint race, but he has a horrendous first lap (after qualifying well for once) that makes it look like the championship might not be quite done yet. great race out front from casey, though a lot of this one is about tracking vale and jorge's progress through the field. good fun!
le mans 2011*: plenty of talking points post-race, with some riders perhaps not balancing risk/reward quite right on the slippery track. a fierce fight for the final two podium spots behind casey
silverstone 2011*: the signature casey wet weather performance, and it's just too good from him to be exciting out front. still, the conditions are nasty enough there's plenty of peril behind - which two riders in particular discover while attempting to take on dovi
valencia 2011*: unpleasant first corner pile-up, but it's a nice little race from there in tricky conditions that get worse at the end. an extended dovi/dani duel that has real stakes for championship standings and pride. also you get a really dramatic ending out front, kinda out of nowhere? worth sticking with this one
le mans 2012*: jorge's in that stage of his career where he's a decent wet weather racer, and he very much disappears out front as battle rages behind. valentino fights with casey, fights with dovi/cal, fights with casey again... the last vale/casey duel featuring a last lap overtake
assen 2014: wet to dry bike swap, with more rain threatening. it features the first real dovi/marc scrap (doesn't last long, but they have a 2nd go at it as marc hunts dovi down). plus there's also an impressive comeback ride from vale after a poor tyre choice
aragon 2014: rather a nasty valentino crash close to the start - but once you're through that, you're in for quite a silly one. let's just say the dominant rider that year does not have a particularly dignified day in the office. dry to wet bike swap race, which some perhaps grasped a little too late
silverstone 2015**: first race in which valentino lost the championship lead, but this is the bounce back race in the soaking wet. marc puts a lot of pressure on valentino here, it's 2015, what more do you want? late pressure from other riders too, a signature valentino wet weather ride
misano 2015*: big twists, big turns, massive title fight implications. a flag-to-flag race where both title contenders perhaps don't get it quite right... a lot of chaos where bike swap timing makes all the difference. a truly excellent performance from the winner
sachsenring 2016: no prizes for guessing who won this one, but way more jeopardy than the average visit to the circuit. marc just got these flag-to-flags bang on so often, and it's fun watching him secure what at one stage looked like rather an unlikely victory
brno 2016**: if you can, go into this one without being spoiler-ed, because I promise you that you will not be able to guess the podium combination after the first few laps. a lot of this race ends up being about tyre choice. a slow burn but a goody
misano 2017**: in that stretch of 2017 where every race is a Big Title Fight Race, which makes it so fun 2017 had so many of those in the wet. a fun race throughout, but the last lap is particularly daring and memorable. a signature marc performance
motegi 2017**: a race that gradually builds to a dovi/marc duel - and the additional jeopardy added by the conditions makes it something special. one hell of a last lap
sepang 2017**: first match point race, just to add a little extra drama to proceedings. a lot of tense wobbling about as dovi attempts to navigate his way back to the lead of the race - including past his rather stubborn teammate. excellent performance under high pressure from dovi
valencia 2018*: the conditions get so poor you do get several crashes that just make for unpleasant viewing... when they finally red flag it, the field is severely depleted, then it's broadly more of the same. defo a good race if 'chaos' is what you're looking for
le mans 2020*: entire race on wet track. I don't remember the 1st half of this being all that exciting, but once it gets going it's just SUCH dumb chaos, in a title fight that's all about dumb chaos
austria 2021**: a race that will be remembered more than anything because of the crazy way in which it was won. the whole race is fun, but the last few laps are kinda unforgettable
motegi 2023*: quite fun to have a flag-to-flag this late in the championship fight! the title contenders feature heavily in this one and there's enough shake-ups in the order to keep things interesting. psa: this race doesn't get restarted. pretty short
honourable mentions: valencia 2001, estoril 2002, jerez 2004, estoril 2005, le mans 2007, assen 2011, phillip island 2011, assen 2016, le mans 2021, argentina 2023
#right that's it I think I need a race rec tag#race rec tag#I astound myself with my creativity#eh I'll back tag tomorrow#motogp#//#brr brr#batsplat responds#glad you enjoyed donington 2005 anon!! one of my very favourites#the first time i watched it i was going 'THIS is supposed to be valentino's all time great wet weather performance?? what's he DOING'#which in retrospect was maybe a tad unfair. i thought he'd be gapping the field by a minute and he nearly fell like sixty times#i feel like most of his great wet weather rides are like that... he really needs to work his way into a race. you learn to appreciate it!!#anyways i'm personally a bit more of a full wet enjoyer than flag-to-flag but that bias hopefully shouldn't be reflected in these recs#word on the street is assen might be quite wet this year#i'm gonna be honest here my memory on quite a few of these was quite a bit shakier than say for sete/valentino races#my notes for everything post 2019 are AWFUL. marc really got injured and i just. gave up
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finally updated
#you could say that I like aki#okay you guys can't say I didn't go crazy#this looks so good#I'm so proud of myself and my extremely mediocre decorating skills#the acrylic risers turned out so nice#I'll maybe post some closeups tomorrow#and now that I'm sitting down... I'm noticing problems with it....#but I'm too tired to get back up baaaahh#aki aki aki aki I am insane#I'm already starting to worry what will happen when I run out of space...... lol#aki <3
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hehe me and g.arrus plushie are cuddling!
#ash rambles 💚#can't calibrate this one 🌌#kissing his round ass head as we speak!!#comfy <3#i know sometimes I'm kinda mean to g.arrus and I'm stubborn about liking him#hell i even threw g.arrus plushie against a wall.. maybe I'll post the video lol it was pretty funny#but i really do love him so much#him and ash dont fall in love for quite some time and it's just. man. they always have each others' backs#i love him so much#usually i think about us with s.hepard since you know polyship and all but#he was my first m.ass effect love and there's always gonna be a universe in which it's just the two of them against the world#and their adoptive kiddos <3#we have a turian named aster#he's a boy and he's really smart!#and we have a human girl#her name is k.irrahe#named after ofc the character#she's a biotic and has really cool red hair and stuff#and despite being adopted siblings they both happen to have purple eyes- so they always joke about how they were meant to be siblings#i love my kiddos ajdhajs so happy to be their mama#anyhow. long day tomorrow. time to go back to cuddling g.arrus plushie!
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Updated my pronouns on my Unitarian church's website, and immediately after I did it I was like shit, shit, is that really what I want? Is that really what I want? I'm so hesitant to commit to anything. I know what I don't like, and I know what I'm comfortable accepting based on how people clock my gender presentation, but actually committing to something on my own? Aaaaaaugh!
#Prophetic thoughts#lol I say my Unitarian church like I actually go there#haven't really been back there in years#still on their mailing list/in their directory though#and popped in on Wednesday night for a post-election vespers & grieving service#am thinking about going back more full time#maybe I'll go tomorrow morning#lol also I don't want word of my other pronouns getting back to my family#on the internet at least I can use those without that worry#irl I've been leery of that#my family doesn't attend the Unitarian church but still
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sitting waiting for someone to text you bc you wanted to make plans with them almost 4 hours ago but now you've just wasted 4 hours bc you couldn't do anything bc you were waiting for them to text should've been a circle of hell in dante's inferno
#i also was on the phone with my mom for a bit so maybe i wasn't fixated on the waiting itchiness for all 4 of those hours but i still#haven't done any of the work i need to do for tomorrow :/ and i don't want to start it bc i'll have to stop in the middle of it except i#really do need to start it regardless of when she texts me back but she hasn't texted me back yet and we're trying to meet up to get food#but we hadn't decided on where to go so idk how long it will take so my window for doing any of it is rapidly shrinking and i can feel it#closing in on me bc it's been dark outside for an hour and i'm still just fucking. sitting here.#also unrelated i figured out this morning that i've been taking tylenol instead of my antidepressants for the last several days! which helps#to explain why i'm suddenly experiencing such a sudden uptick in my depression symptoms but also doesn't help me get back any of the days#i've spent in stasis bc apparently my adhd meds aren't enough on their own (bc i'm depressed) to allow me to do anything easily including#but not limited to getting out of bed#i've also discovered recently that just expressing that i've had difficulty with something to someone at all helps dissolve the mental block#that's kept me from doing it which has been massively helpful for me but maybe annoying to my friend who i usually text about it <3#megan you're a real one and i love you#a post
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FINISHED MY TAR'X DRAWING. gonna post about him soon <3
#I'm not very happy with it because I tried a bunch if new stuff and I'm very meh on some parts bUT i only wanted to#get the idea of his design across soooo it think it does an okay job at that So I'm Satisfied Enough.#tomorrow I'll write down the first part of his story and maybe 1 mission hihihi huhuhu#then I'll go back to vegoia and kalusna; ny haunted girls <3#g posting
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well, i've either been out of it from needing more sleep-- taking a nap-- and just plain floaty today-- and have managed one (1) post draft this evening lmao-- (tho it wasn't even to any proper threads or asks, aaaa--)
but seeing as i think that tapped out my writing juices for now, think i'm gonna maybe grab a snack, and then hop back on my watch of HB...
#{|ooc post|}#i also wanna go ahead and mention (tho i'll likely post about it later as well)--#that come sometime tomorrow-- i'll likely be back to hardcore lurker mode-- as i've got plans to go visit friends for a little while#(probably for about the duration of a week-- maybe a little longer--)#but i'll still pop around for things when i'm able~ and will likely lurk a lot via mobile u v u
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I actually realized i hate work. Won't be putting any effort into this anymore ♡
#sure whatever#it's funny because when i applied there i really really wanted this job#and it had nothing to do with that one person i got a little overly attached to#and when i started working there it was fine but i think really the only reason i liked it was because of that colleague#and now he's gone there's only annoying things left#also maybe i got too cuddled by him because he's always had my back until now#but i have to try to get things from the design team now and they just straight up ignore me lmao#like. my colleague asked me last week if i could ask them to edit some images which i did and they ignored me for 2 days#then HE sent them a follow up message and surprise surprise the images were there within 30 minutes#now again. he asked me to request some images and then built them into the journal#i request them. i hear nothing back. i send a follow up saying it's kinda important. i get nothing#oh well sorry man. guess you'll have to do that yourself after all (:#(i think it's really nice he's trying to give me so much more responsibility and all but if he's not there to back me up#it's literally not working because Everyone Is Ignoring Me :)))#also two weeks from now I'll be alone in our office because my other colleague who's in the same office as us#has announced she's gonna go share the office with someone else because she's gonna be alone otherwise#lol thanks#also some other shit someone posted in the group chat today which really pissed me off#AND the fact i got ignored AGAIN when i asked for work :) like bitches. i literally just watched netflix on my private laptop#while wiggling the mouse on my work laptop until i got off lmao#i won't go to the office tomorrow either#i was gonna go but i can't do shit there if i get ignored again#at least at home i can do whatever i want when they decide i should just get money for wasting my time ♡#i might actually just not work tomorrow#I'll probably log in just to see if there's any updates on the images situation but if not I'll fuck right off#fun times#(also maybe just maybe I'm generally a little negative these days. that may play into it. I'm sensing that sweet summertime blues ♡#((who cares if it's because of my father's death or because of my colleague's going away or because of general existential despair due to#university.... i'm just annoyed) )#void screams
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s1 episode 23 thoughts
back at it again with another post surgery painkiller and x-files combo, let's goooo!
i'm almost done with season 1, only 1 more episode! i'll have to see how long it took me to get to this point and then update accordingly- but i might finish today- which will be bittersweet
(update! i started watching 20 days ago, so a i'm at a little over an episode a day! wow, time flies. and yet it seems they have always been at my side)
anyway this episode was again Problematic but i did chronicle my journey like always. i am a citizen journalist.
episode opened with some math words, math words which i definitely knew the meaning of (/s)
then the scientist we see working on a sort of jet thing gets sucked into his jet- he was locked in there by the custodian- with a sound the closed captioning described as a "squishing thud" which was. unfortunate.
enter our duo! "how was the wedding?" "you mean the part where the groom passed out or the dog bit the drummer?" (mulder, teasingly) "did you catch the bouquet?" (scully, teasing back) "maaaaybe :)"
(your honor i would die for them. no hesitation. mulder, what do you care if she caught the bouquet? dreaming of her as a radiant bride or something? scully, you stringing him along with that imagery? lol. lmao, even. i need to put them in a bottle and study them)
another scientist is killed when the custodian puts him into liquid nitrogen which is not something i can endorse but he WAS rude asf so i get it. and then his ear falls off and crunches which was nasty!
scully says she has seen this happen on a fish before! mulder responds that this is not something they'll see on "beakman's world" (had to google that one but it seems to be a contemporary children's science programming of some sort. and there was a man in a rat suit playing a rat. which is absurdly funny to me. hold on NEED to get an image of him for you)
i'm. gonna fucking cry why does he look like that. need to end this line of commentary here before i start begging for explanations on what the hell was going on in the 90's
so mulder seems to think that the custodian killed his boss and all the other members of this team working on the fancy jet stuff, which we know to be true but we don't know Why. turns out our custodian, roland, is the twin brother of the head scientist, arthur, who died a few months back, and has since had his brain placed in a cryogenic freezing chamber. JUST the head!
i love when scully and mulder need a visual on what a person would look like so they go to the woman in the fbi that presses some buttons on a computer and generates a dude. it brings me pleasure to no end. then they look at the guy like :0 yup that is exactly who we are looking for. i eat it up every time.
! SCULLY LORE REVEAL ! she has two brothers, one older and one younger! (she's a middle child omg.........)
mulder thinks siblings have a psychic connection (which is actually deeply tragic if you consider his circumstances) and that the ULTIMATE psychic connection is between twins. so the twin that is currently in an icy soup is somehow connecting to the other twin to get him to kill all the other scientists and finish his research. sure. why not.
there's then a scene where mulder tries to walk in the wrong direction and scully has to correct him, which recalled him getting lost in the woods in an earlier episode i had No Positive Feelings Towards, but it does make him always driving funnier. like, can he follow a map but has no internal sense of direction? was the gps still in its early days? did he have one at all? how is he getting places? a lot of people want to know
the last remaining scientist who was not killed lowered the temperature on brain soup twin, which was stored in another part of the university campus where they worked. man my university campus has no jet propulsion wing OR brain soup section. did i get ripped off? what is my tuition even for?
anyway, the episode ends with the seeming psychic curse of soup twin being lifted from custodian twin, which we can hope to mean positive things moving forward
overall, like i said, any episode of a show from the 90's with the words "mentally challenged" in the description is bound to have aged poorly, which i am not surprised by- up there with the earlier Indigenous appropriation episode and the aforementioned episode i Shan't Name- but, we did learn things! for instance, that scully has 2 brothers (!!!), just went to a wedding where mulder teased her about maybe catching the bouquet (and also a dog bit a drummer, drop the full story time scully don't be shy), mulder believes in the psychic connection between siblings, and that there was a rat on a kid's show that was a mere man in a suit. that i'm still gonna cry laughing at.
#the damn rat. i had to stop myself from looking at pictures just to get back to finishing this post.#i will never be the same.#sigh. scully has two brothers. i will tuck this information carefully into my brain and store it on a high shelf.#i think when i'm done watching s1- which could be today or tomorrow- i'm gonna go through all my notes#and make a big “favorite s1 moments” list. one for scully and one for mulder.#there's some stuff i want to dive deeper into and remember moving forward#so maybe i'll do one just for scully and one just for mulder and then one for their interactions together#because it is hard to separate them! but there are individual things that deserve highlighting as well#like sleep deprived mulder telling scully which station the sports show is on. or scully raised catholic reveal. or her befriending a horse#anyway. much to look forward to moving ahead.#juni's x files liveblog#1x23#the x files#txf
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Your Weekly TV Guide
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2:30 PM: Solanaceae
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2:30 PM: Die Anstalt - Psychiatrie für misshandelte Kuscheltiere
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2:30 PM: Star Control II - Helix
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2:30 PM: SCII - Helix (blood warning)
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#Weekly TV Guide#Another one that is *probably#I have Most of a week queued up to go but Sunday's is still a bit of a question mark#Hopefully it will be SCII! I have more stuff in the works!#Had a Very busy week that allowed No time for any digital art so :P My poor ideas have had to be back-burnered noooo#Tomorrow would normally be my offline day but I'm making a slight exception since Things Posting Funny lol - one of my behind the scenes!#Glad to finally :)#There's actually a lot of Digital Art posting this week despite not having had the chance to work on any for a bit :0#Definitely three maybe four - depends lol#Oh and Thursday's blood warning is For Realsies - red and lots#Friday's is black and white but still <3#Feels like I've been holding onto or working on some of these ForEver!!! Will be nice to have them up ♪#Hopefully this week will be a Touch more chill and also I'll just - draw more lol#Want to! Need ideas and thoughts and feelings Out of me!
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The grind just never ends OT2
#luly talks#wip#i love posting shit here bc it helps me see things i won't otherwise#like how the torso looks a little squished does it? it'd do w a little expanding#we'd go for a stronger hourglass shape w a little back reinforcement#on the right. the left is covered already#my new lineart looks Bad btw ik bc i forgot what i was doing for the first 😭#i think i was doing the 1 pixel trick. maybe 2?#like there's always one of two i either go very small and build up or i go normal and shave off#i think i was going on the building up route#I'll revisit tomorrow#btw isn't the head good? <- what your mom hear yesterday#no but fr i worked hard and im pretty content ^_^#i fucked the belly up a little btw i know ill fix that tomorrow too though idk how exactly#still struggling w the outfit btw. idk what I'll do 😭
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i miss akechi goro so much. maybe even enough to finally finish that ladue chapter 3
#speculation nation#ladue shit#listen hes such an asshole and i NEEEEEEED to channel his voice for a bit again#if this urge persists to tomorrow i'll crack open the fic again. for a little reread.#this will satisfy only approximately 53 people (the total subscribers to that fic)#which ok that's actually a good few people when i think about them as actual people#but it's the least amount of subscriptions i have out of most of my multichapters#EVEN STILL. it's a matter of pride and self-satisfaction.#and god fucking damn i have 18k for chapter 3 already written. i literally just need to close the damn scene up#it's been over a YEAR NOWWWWWWWWWW like holy fucking shit. i need this OUT ALREADYYYYYYYYYYY#ladue chapter 3 i will free you into the abyss. i cannot promise more than chapter 3 but i can promise a chapter 3 at least.#i had a whole plan for the fic but idk if i'll ever be able to write it#considering it's taken like. ... years. between chapters.#it took me 2 years to post chapter 2 and it's been a year now since then. ugh.#see the thing is chapter 3 closes the initial arc of them starting to date. and then there's more stuff.#maybe i'll keep it open just in case the urge strikes me to continue it eventually.#and if it never does. i might make a 4th chapter that outlines the eventual plans i had for the fic. so that people know at least.#ive seen that a Few times for discontinued fics.#....but the thing is i dont want to mark any of my fics discontinued!!!! theyre all my darlings!!! i want to go back to them all eventually#i'll just have to see. if a chapter 4 ends up taking several more years. well. maybe it'll be time to call it there. who fucking knows lol#i'll try to get chapter 3 finished sometime soon though. i really want to have it out already.
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