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elmaxlys · 1 year ago
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I need translation notes
Valam called Redin "boy" in Taravangian's interlude when he asked him to kill him, and Mélanie Fazi translated that as "mon garçon" -- but then what Dalinar calls Kaladin in 76 when confronting Amaram is also translated as "mon garçon" except it's not "boy" in the og but rather "son", and I could go on about how it totally makes sense to be translated as it is and how it's not a complaint at all but it does make either Valam more affectionate than he is (he does call him bastard right before) or Dalinar less so but mainly, like. I need translation notes.
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zuzu-draws · 8 months ago
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So after the spoilers for Chap 257 dropped, I saw some tweets clarifying the meaning of the Kanji Sukuna used in the chapter when referring to his mother, and the overall reveals in the chapter got me thinking.
I’m making this post as a way of gathering my thoughts, personal speculations and where I think all of this connects to Sukuna’s character and the information Gege has given us over the years. Nothing I say is by any means new information, but like I said, I’m just collecting my thoughts here. By the way, just a warning, this post contains SPOILERS for the JJK Manga! If you don’t like that, please don’t read this!
Something I’ve noticed is that the theme of “Hunger” and symbolism of “Cooking/Food” is heavily referenced with Sukuna throughout the Manga. Gege in a previous Fanbook has disclosed Sukuna’s favorite Hobby to be “Eating”.
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This theme is again very much ingrained within Sukuna’s cursed techniques and even his Domain Expansion, the “Malevolent Shrine”. With his two main techniques being “Dismantle” and “Cleave” are cutting-type attacks. He is also able to use a Flame-Arrow, and Fire is essential for making Food. The Shrine in his Domain Expansion literally has mouths on all sides, looking eager to chew down anything in-front of them!
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This symbolism also heavily influences Sukuna’s own manner of speech, and the way he speaks to other characters in the series as well. With his post-fight chat with Jogo before his death, Sukuna mentions Jogo lacking the “Hunger” to take control of his desires, preventing him from reaching the heights of Gojo Satoru. Before the Start of their fight in Shinjuku, Sukuna called Gojo a “Nameless Fish on top of his cutting board”, and that he was going to start by “Peeling off the scales”(refering to Gojo’s infinity). There’s also further symbolism that supports this by analyzing the Kanji and meaning of Sukuna’s “Malevolent Shrine” but I’m not very educated on that so I won’t be opening that point here.
What all of this points to is that Eating and Food……is extremely important to Sukuna, to the point that it literally affects him in manners innumerable.
Eating is an instinct, a necessity for the survival of every single living being.
And In the face of extreme Hunger and starvation, even those with the strongest will could lose their Humanity and revert to the basic animalistic side of their existence. (The Heian Period also had a Famine, although I believe the timing to be a bit off, but do with this info as you see fit)
In JJK Chapter 257, it is revealed to us that Sukuna and his Twin were most likely starving in the womb of their starving mother.
On the brink of starvation, Sukuna had to consume his “other self”(his twin), so that he could survive.
Btw, this tweet and this thread gives additional characterisation to Sukuna:
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Link to the original thread: Link.
More context (and reactions :P):
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Link to original thread: Here
This reveals to us that indeed, Sukuna was born a twin. And as we all know, “Twins” are seen with extreme scrutiny in Jujutsu Society, they’re not well liked. This too in a period where Cursed Spirits and Jujutsu Sorcery was at its peak, it is not far-fetched to assume that his Mother may not have been treated very well by the people in her surroundings, especially as she bore twins.
When Kashimo asks if Sukuna was born the Strongest or if he made himself the Strongest, this is the response Sukuna gave to him:
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When you think about it, how do you think the people around them would have reacted when the woman: who was supposed to birth two twins, gave birth to a single child instead? and that child had consumed his other twin in the womb itself?
No doubt people would’ve been horrified, disgusted and even revulsed. With the woman and her newborn child.
This would’ve led to their further ostracisation in the already very close-minded society. Unable to fend for herself and her newborn child, it must’ve been difficult for Sukuna’s mother to survive. I feel like somewhere along the line, Sukuna was left alone to fend for himself at an extremely young age. To protect himself from both Curses and Society alike.
This is why I believe Sukuna knows what true starvation, weakness and hunger feels like. Both in the emotional and literal sense. He was left without another person caring about him or his well-being, in a cut-throat period where it was “Fight or be killed”.
Powerful curses roamed all across Japan, nowhere was safe. Simply be strong, or you'll die. There's no room for weakness. And initially, a kid!Sukuna was weak, as anyone would be in the beginning when they're just starting out in this world. (and maybe, he didn't have much to eat, leading to long periods of starvation? :') )
I believe it is this debilitating hunger, and feeling of weakness that eventually led to Sukuna’s current Hedonistic mindset.
He’s essentially traumatised by it, and believes that it was his own weakness that led him to experience this sheer starvation. That he deserved to feel this way because he was weak then. Perhaps, the people around him were right, that as long as they have the power and strength to overcome anything, they’re free to do as they please; And there is nothing anyone else could do about it.
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I feel like the irony here is that Sukuna himself, must’ve been a “weakling” before eventually rising the ranks to become History’s Strongest Sorcerer. This is also why he values Strength so much.
Ultimately, Sukuna has decided that there was nothing more important than being strong enough to fulfill your own desires. And “eating” is one of his most important desires. It’s his favourite thing to do, the one he derives the most pleasure out of. And like an animal, whose main focus is to consume, consume and consume. He too, simply consumes.
Most morals likely have no meaning to him. He doesn’t care who he hurts, what he does, as long as he’s able to get what he wants. And this isn’t limited to eating.
This is why people referring to Sukuna as a “Natural Disaster” is so befitting of him. Because Natural Disasters also don’t care about what or who they’re destroying, they just come and go, wreaking havoc appropriate for their nature and magnitude.
I believe Sukuna himself has said lines similar in nature, when talking to Kashimo:
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Now I’m not sure how Sukuna perceives or even experiences this “Love”, because I think he has a rather very warped idea of it. I do think that this definition of love is similar to the one that Gojo also understands, but I don’t think he knows what “love” truly is. I’m not sure how I could comment on this, but I do think that Sukuna’s emotionally starved, whether he realises that or not.
Because, like Kashimo himself asked Sukuna “What is the point of dividing your soul into 20 different parts and then traversing across time if you’re satisfied with this?” we do not know the answer to that yet.
But many people have speculated that “Black Box” panels in JJK manga represent a curse (either self-inflicted or put by someone) on the speaker. Like, take a look over here where Sukuna reiterates the same dialogue, except it looks like he’s trying to reassure himself:
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This once again shows that Sukuna has only ever strived for himself, in the same hedonistic fashion, to a very very extreme degree. It is possible that he's been lacking something, and he himself does not realise that he’s lacking it. Maybe it was this subconscious feeling, that led to Sukuna agreeing to Kenjaku’s plan of dividing his soul into 20 different parts, and to traverse across time as a Cursed Object.
Sukuna’s an incredibly complex character, and I’m excited to see where this goes. Gege has put extra care in the way he characterizes and depicts Sukuna, and again, I’m really sad that a lot of that characterization gets lost in translation. Still, I’m going to try my best to understand and get the most accurate feel of his character as I possibly can.
If you made it this far, Thank you for reading! And if you would like, please do leave a comment in the tags or replies because I would love to read what other people think of this and just Sukuna in general. I do not see a lot of people doing critical analysis of him, and a lot of his actions are seemingly swept under the rug. I don’t like that, so hopefully this contributes to people focusing more on Sukuna and his character. (/^v^)/ <3
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u3pxx · 2 months ago
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oh i should share this old doodle of when i was watching the tagalog dub and my friend and i were talking about tsukki and weaponized politeness LOL
(mano info for yall unfamilliar ✌️)
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forcebookish · 2 months ago
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whumptober no.7: (alt) forgotten
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thisonelikesaliens · 3 months ago
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finally tracked down the post ep9 IG live and wanted to expand on this scene with some additional insights from Tim:
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during those 6 years Orca would fly to Taiwan randomly for a day here and there just to prepare a meal or clean the apartment for Reese without even seeing him. Orca continued to learn Chinese and Reese kept studying Thai in those years, but to fill in the gaps between languages they picked up pen and paper and started drawing
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i just think it's a beautiful thing when you pick up new habits because you love someone and want to do everything you can to be able to communicate with them
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astrallogic · 17 days ago
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i tried drawing some dn characters in arcane style. in the end it's kind of a mix because i used dn proportions and stuff and just tried shading it like in arcane 💀
i'm not happy with how misa turned out but i'm too burned out to redo her. probably my last dn fanart for now.
at first i was only going to do higuchi but i wanted to make a post so i made my top 3 characters. the theme is uhhhh pre timeskip kiras. i guess.
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skitskatdacat63 · 11 months ago
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"Non paeniteo potitus."
+ details & process
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And, process !!
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The jump btwn the second to last and last always surprise me whenever I make one of these because I always forget to take snapshots after I start painting. It's always like: oh yeah heres the lineart with some colors- BOOM fully finished✨️
What he's holding are the Austrian imperial scepter and orb, seen below:
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I was going to draw the crown too but decided I don't hate myself that much(maybe some other day), and gave him a golden laurel crown, bcs I'm obsessed with that as a motif, and also its very remincient of the boy king statue that started this whole thing!
There's some symbolism of this, both intentionally but also just historically. I love that the orb represents that the monarch is holding the world in their hand, basically every old monarchy has one of those, and I think it's very cool for symbolism. But also bcs of that, I was forced to basically draw catholic fanart so, you win some you lose some. The star halo above him head is both to reference those religious statues with star crowns(I saw them a lot in Europe and they imprinted onto my brain), as well as: his four championships of course!
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sysig · 9 months ago
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Getting up to trouble is his speciality (Patreon)
#Doodles#SCII#Damned#ZEX#The Captain#Mixed set! :D Lots of singular doodles - one-offs or ones that apply to a few different scenes#The kiss is random tho <3 I still haven't gotten to ZEX showing off his uniform to Zelnick! I want them to!!#Him seeing his Captain in his uniform was so lovely tho <3 I love Big Love and that was so <3 Hehe#Smooch ♥#ZEX does not eat enough ;; He eats like a bird and it's highly distressing#I actually wrote in my notes that I was surprised he wasn't hurting In The Same entry as when he was experiencing hunger pangs haha#It doesn't help that he tends to talk through meals rather than eat - he's so much more interested in making connections with humans!#As far as metaphors go - killing himself for the sake of trying to bridge that gap - I mean it's apt but ZEX please#I think it was while he was talking to Wally at one point that he framed the War in a very flippant light-hearted way which was funny to me#I don't think that's the descriptor most people would use haha#Swearing <3 <3 VUX terminology <3 <3#I want a VUX glossary of terms so badly hehe I've been slowly compiling a few here and there :3 Direct translation! The dream ♫#Him getting stressed enough to swear is very endearing haha ♪ What do you mean I'm endeared by everything he does don't be silly#The next one of me deeply enjoying when he's creepy is not proof of anything! Just because I Happen to also like that!!#I do really love when he's creepy tho agh <3 <3 The mental image of him as The Hunter - casually cornering and capturing his prey <3#In that instance he was interrupted pretty quickly but the setup was there!! And it was extremely good!!!#I love how huffy he gets as well haha ''All these humans interrupting my seduction attempts >O( ...Wait O|'' lol#And finally an exchange on the board between him and Scarecrow haha so many fun faces around!!#I love him being completely baffled by a non-mechanical construct it just short-circuits his brain haha ♥#He's so intelligent but there exists things unknowable!#The image of him tapping his pen is so Incredibly cute ah <3 Where did he learn such a thing! Does it translate from his VUX form to this ♪#Anything everything ♥ Learned or known! It's wonderful
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airenyah · 2 years ago
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i think i found a way to bring up bad buddy in my bachelor thesis, but i'm gonna have to restructure half of my plans
#originally i wanted to analyze the difficulties that come up when trying to translate thai pronouns and honorifics and polite particles#but then i was like ''shit i only got roughly 9000 words i'm gonna have to get more specific'' so i decided to focus on pronouns only#but unfortunately in bbs there isn't really something relating to pronouns only that causes difficulties in translation#there is plenty of other things that can be tricky to translate like pat's line username or the thing about pran's password#or in ep2 when pran's friends are discussing pat's note and how it's gotta be a guy from the use of ครับ (krub)#anyway if i somehow manage to restructure my thesis in a way where i actually CAN go back to my original plan#on focusing on all 3: pronouns and honorifics and polite particles#then that scene in ep2 pt3 where patpran are teasing each other about the dumplings/green tea drinks is actually perfect for my thesis!!#now i just gotta figure out how to talk about all 3 of these topics and still keep my thesis at around 9000 words....#airenyah plappert#adrm#bbs#i have until friday to figure this out bc that's when i'm gonna have to hand in my exposé#edit: i'm so stupid if i go back to my original plan then that plan included bringing bbs into it anyway#that ep2 scene where the architecture gang is discussing pat's note is the perfect example#of a tricky spot when it comes to translating thai polite particles#usually when a sentence includes a polite particle you'd try to express the translation in a polite register too#but that's a moment where they're explicitly referencing a linguistic concept that just doesn't exist in english#so how are you gonna translate that for an audience who has no idea what polite particles are#and have the translation make sense for them#although on my bbs rewatch the past two nights i found one or the other moment relating to pronouns#that i might be able to use#we'll see
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solradguy · 1 year ago
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blade tried to take credit for nainsoo’s friends’ translation of justice for who? from the overture artbook. i reblogged the tumblr post of naisoon’s complaint and of the old translation a while back but i suggest you take a look for yourself
I've seen those translations on the Dustloop forum, credited correctly. When I was still working on my translations of those stories I actually had a link on my directory page to that thread haha
Hilarious Blade tried taking credit for them though. I'm not going to bother looking into it further. It's in the past, and we're all aware of Blade's nonsense by this point.
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distant--shadow · 2 years ago
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you lot have been leaving the loveliest notes in the tags on my last picture, so thank you so much for that.
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this one in particular hurts. here's hoping!
#My 'job' doesn't involve digital art but it does seem like the approach is inevitable#And I gotta say this whole thing had really made me reevaluate what I considered as passion jobs and jobs that surely no human wants to do#Outside of the obvious capitalism stuff#Ask yaself#What are you tryna free time up for?#Why the rush?#So you can spend more time detached from the physical?#Nah#He says in the notes of a social media (sorta) post#It's a collective effort to get us all distracted and plugged into the matrix (those who can afford it) whilst the world crumbles#Anyhow happy new year#Go outside if you can#Read a book or some poetry under a tree#(who designed the cover of that book? who styled the typeface? who set up each letter individually for the printing plate?)#(who translated it into a language that you can read?)#(who turned the tree to pulp and pressed it into paper?)#Engage in some physical hobbies and make something with your own hands#Just for the satisfaction#Of creating it in an image of your choosing#Of putting it on your shelf and showing your friends#Or crushing it between your fingers and palm#Go to a gig and feel rather than hear the sound as it moves through your body#Get a meal or a snack from your favourite spot#(did you know that sign above the window was painted by a guy with a brush and a stick and a steady hand over 40 years ago?)#Think about all of the hands that item of food had to go through to reach your mouth#Think of the time it spent basking in the sun and blanketed in the soil being nourished by decay#Hands that turned the dirt. Hands that turned into dirt.#Enjoy and support the human touch#No I will go on a tangent this is my void thanks
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mymarifae · 1 year ago
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why don't you like blade :(
oh i don't dislike him! i just don't care. totally different thing
everything i've seen of him in game so far PLUS alllllllll those leaks hasn't been enough. like. as of Right Now there's nothing for me to latch onto and pick at. the whole "dan heng's past life's ex-husband/fiance" may be enough for some people but i just do not gaf 😭 i need. to see quite a bit more of him before i can even start getting into the territory of actual like/dislike
#and i probably won't dislike him when i do get the additional context i need to understand his character properly#because overall i Really enjoy the character writing in this game so they'd have to fuck up catastrophically for me to Dislike him#mailbox#you know what i do dislike though. renheng. or whatever you people call it#like ok YES i see that they were probably married in dan heng's past life#but#i don't... dan heng has made it extremely clear that he is NOT dan feng and he really hates engaging with any part of that life#because he wants to move on and establish himself as a new person and be SEEN as Himself and not have to shoulder dan feng's shit forever#and i don't understand what blade's deal is. like if he's also a reincarnation or. idk kafka was like 'mara' but like#either i skipped something in that cutscene or it was not elaborated on Yet or it wasn't translated well OR all 3#regardless i do not get what's happening. with him.#so maybe he can still love dan feng and it really fucking sucks for him that dan heng looks so much like him but *dan feng* is dead#he's not going to find his husband/fiance in dan heng again. like blahblahblah the vidyadhara's reincarnation is weird#and undoubtedly parts of dan feng will live on through dan heng but they're not. the same person#and yknow blade isn't (checks notes) exactly yinxing anymore#like that's kind of the entire point of this story line. it's supposed to be tragic because they're not the same people anymore#and they're not going to just fall in love all over again at the drop of a hat#like i thought you guys loved doomed yaoi. why do you keep making it un-doomed#it's not a big deal or anything like do what you want forever. if un-dooming the doomed yaoi makes you happy then ok!#but it's not for me and never will be it just requires ignoring such an integral part of what makes dan heng. dan heng.#blade's fine. silver wolf is like his niece now or something he can just go take her to mcdonald's he doesn't need a husband again
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thisonelikesaliens · 5 months ago
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xiao bao's sidekicks are named 招財進寶 (usually as new year greeting to wish people prosperity and wealth) which also can be combined like this (you might see banners like these around lunar new year in asian communities)
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which seems pretty accurate since they share half a brain cell
I'm gonna have fun with this show
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o-wyrmlight · 2 years ago
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Cookie your tags are so good ssjkfdkfhskdjh
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Thanks I grew them myself in my garden
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byanyan · 1 year ago
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when u've been writing the same reply for two days in a row...
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hirookouji · 1 year ago
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hndrdsnj i bought the knb art book and the end is a section w a bunch of text and hopefully i can find a way to upload it or post it just as. documentation or something.
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