#i have a lot i can say about Bucktommy mostly because i feel like so many people are misinterpreting or just not seeing things that i think

[johanna-swann]

Okay, so this is going to sound very conspiracy theory like, but here's what I think happened (in regards to Bobby's death, Tommy being back, Eddie still not being back and a general outlook on season 9).

I think Tim Minear came back to the show, they moved to a different network, they churned out half a season somehow between multiple strikes and other adjustments. They put a lot of money into the opening disaster which worked and got fans excited. They peppered in soap opera style plot points throughout the rest of the season (wedding episode, Buck coming out, Doppelgänger plot, reintroducing Bobby's background, new Henren kid) because the fans care about the characters and what happens to them. There was barely any procedural in this drama throughout most of season 7, it was 90% the characters' personal drama they showed.

But people were willing to overlook this because at least all the characters had stuff going on and there were extenuating circumstances. Then season 8a rolled around. Once again they went big on the opening disaster, after that though?

Most of the plots introduced in season 7 were dropped immediately. Bobby was suicidal at the end of last season, he's fine in 8x01 though. The conflict between Eddie and Christopher is mentioned here and there, but we don't see Eddie working on his issues. Ortiz is defeated and written out of the show in the very first episode after the opening disaster. Athena gets her thriller plot in the opening disaster and then gets sidelined for the next idk how many episodes. Maddie and Chimney are barely main characters at all, they mostly just exist in the background. The only relevant plot they kept going was Bucktommy, but even they only got insubstantial comedy side plots until they were suddenly broken up. The mid-season finale was a huge let-down and there was barely anything interesting going on in the show anymore.

Here's where the conspiracy part begins: Without the distraction of at least one engaging plot to follow and the lack of new episodes coming in viewers started to notice that the show was treading water. Then the feedback started to trickle in and it wasn't good. I think that's when they decided that they really had to do something that would shake things up and change things permanently. They had already filmed the serial killer two parter though, so they only made small changes / additions (Buddie goodbye scene) and started to really write stories with a lasting impact again post 8x10.

Call me crazy, but I think they really didn't plan to bring Tommy back, not so soon and not as Buck's love interest. That's not what the interviews sounded like back in November. But then, only a few episodes after the break-up suddenly Tommy was back, they showed how both Buck and Tommy still have feelings for each other and literally made Buck say the words "I am not in love with Eddie". There will be no more "will they won't they" "queerbaity-ish" plots between Buck and Eddie, that conversation is over. They gave a nod to the fandom by bringing it up like "yeah, we see you" and at the same time let them down gently by saying "we're going another direction though". That is a very permanent decision for a show that doesn't like change. The way they keep bringing Tommy back, even when he's only mentioned, could very well also mean he's here to stay which means giving Buck, the resident perpetual bachelor, a permanent love interest. Another huge change.

The second thing they did was remove Eddie from the equation. Not completely, not permanently, not yet. But let me just throw the idea out there: What if this was a test run? A "let's not get rid of him just yet, let's see if we can manage without him first". So they sent Eddie to Texas. Finally did something with that plot, even if it was severely disappointing and made no sense. (The problem was that Eddie had issues he didn't work on and in the process hurt his kid and broke his trust. Then we see them in Texas, but suddenly Eddie's mom is the actual problem while Christopher is super chill around Eddie? When the last time we saw them speak to each other Christopher barely wanted to talk to Eddie? Make it make sense.) Anyway, Eddie still got his screen time, but they kept him firmly separated from the 118. Buck was on the phone with Eddie a few times, mostly so Eddie would have a scene partner who he could talk to openly, nobody else even mentioned Eddie. Bobby accidentally called Ravi "Eddie" twice, but I think that was more about Ravi feeling like maybe he doesn't belong rather than Bobby actually missing Eddie. So yeah, maybe this was a trial run to see if they can do season 9 without Eddie and so far I have to admit, I don't really miss him? I'm sure they could've worked him into the recent two parter, but they definitely didn't need him.

Third they brought back Ravi and this time everyone is happy to have him there. Buck tries to actually be his friend this time around, gets to be a mentor figure for him and Ravi has his small "maybe I'm not cut out for this" to "I'll commit domestic terrorism if that's what it takes" arc. 8x14 really cemented that Ravi is a part of the team and he chooses to be a part of this team. He's a pall bearer in Bobby's funeral for god's sake, he belongs to the 118 - a 118 that needs new members because they're losing at least one this season. So. Ravi main season 9?

Big change number 4 - Bobby's death. A main character death is a big, big stunt. If they decide they don't like Tommy for Buck after all, they can change their minds later. If they decide they want Eddie back, they can leave options open to bring him back later. Bobby's death? They can't walk that one back. Bobby and Buck are probably the most central characters for the firefam (Bobby as the patriarch and Buck as the link between all sides of the family) and Peter Krause is no small name on tv. This is not a move they would've pulled if they weren't committed to making drastic changes to a show that previously had come to a bit of a standstill. They want to change the very foundation of this show. If they're willing to kill off one of the main characters among main characters, what else are they willing to change? Some of the above? All of it?

The final piece is still very vague, but they also said they wanted to keep Athena connected to the 118 in a tangible way. People have suggested that May might become a firefighter, but tbh I don't think it would fit. She already was a part of the first responder network for an entire year and then decided to go to uni anyway. Athena went to uni and then decided to become a cop instead, May did it the other way around. Why would they change that again now? I think it's more likely that a) Harry graduates and applies to the academy or that b) they'll make May and Ravi a couple. The latter could also make sense if they're trying to keep the same amount and kinds of couples around. If Buck and Tommy really get back together and become a permanent fixture in the 911 universe, May and Ravi could be the new "will they won't they" couple who keep running into stupid hurdles because they're not sure what they're doing while Bucktommy slowly settle down.

Conclusion: Big changes are on the horizon for 911, they already vaguely teased that there may be cast changes other than just Peter Krause being gone for season 9. I think they decided that some major changes needed to happen during the winter hiatus and then talked about a few possibilities, tried some of them and are now ready to finalise those decisions. Maybe one of the reasons that filming is coming along so slowly is that they weren't sure yet which route to go, had to re-shoot scenes or filmed several versions to choose from. (There are soooo many stills that never showed up in an episode.) Idk, but what I do know is that there are a lot of possibilities for permanent change to choose from and they seem committed to actually go through with those changes this time.

[m--rtyr]

i honestly think there would be less bucktommy hate if we had an 18 ep season and had them have some of the important conversations that people want them to have. like about Tommy's past behaviour.

like i think if Buck just kinda went up to Chim and hen after him and tommy started dating and was like 'you guys are cool with this right?? like i know you're friends with him but i know how he used to be with you two as well' and then we had Chim and hen reassure him that Tommy did his part to improve and has shown that he's learnt from his mistakes (and i'm fully saying that these two would've jokingly pressured him into paying them repairations during Black History Month/Asian Heritage Month/Pride month) and that they're happy they've both found someone,

and that, y'know, they've both found themselves and a way to be comfortable in who they are. i think the couple would be viewed more favourable.

i'm not saying the fans would all rush to love him, but i think a lot of the hate wouldn't be as severe if we got more time to know him/see how other characters were about him, and we got his former behaviour more directly addressed.

i do think we are shown that he did change over the begins episodes, and the fact that Chim begins was roughly about 20 years ago + Tommy is clearly friends with/friendly with Hen and Chim now (willing to potentially die and/or lose his job for them, at the least) like theres definitely implied improvement.

but media literacy is dead. you guys saw two fully grown men mutually flirting and went ' >:( i can't believe tommy made a joke in this really emotional moment' so like yeah maybe it did need some more episodes and more explicitly stated improvement for Tommy.

and if i end up doing my '118 out of hours' fic i'll definitely write some more stuff that i think could've helped them out a little

[nquesoxlies]

Hi, how are you? I don't know if it counts as an ask, but I saw someone venting or something like that here, and I would like to do something similar.

First of all, Aisha Hinds, the woman you are! That episode was amazing. Aisha has a big talent! I think it’s in my top five episodes of the series. She really put in an effort, and it really paid off.

But let's move on to Buck and Tommy. The whole hookup and kitchen scene was wild. It was so sexy, so cute, and it finally gave us some angst and some clarity, although I have mixed feelings about the reasoning. The whole thing about being jealous of your partner's best friend is valid. I mean, the 7x04 "My attention?" now makes more sense because we know this is the beginning of Tommy being unsure who Buck actually wants. Buck and Eddie's relationship is viewed by some fans as romantic, so it’s not impossible for Tommy to see them as more than friends too, especially since he doesn’t have the same perspective as the viewers.

But then I can’t stop thinking that this reasoning might have been added because 9-1-1 finally wanted to shut Buddie down. And maybe it worked for some, but my god, they still believe Buddie is happening, even though 9-1-1 literally broke the 4th wall to say it's not going that way. It reminds me of that moment in Glee when Brittany and Sam wanted to date but Brittany broke the 4th wall and said, "lesbians of Twitter will be mad" if she and Sam got together.

On top of that, we have Aisha’s interview where she said the door for Buddie is closed and that it’s not the story the show wants to tell for Buck. And somehow, they still believe Buddie will be canon soon. Wow and they dare to talk to us about media literacy.

Speaking of interviews, I saw some people from both fandoms being scared or hopeful because of Tim’s interview. My honest opinion is that, with all due respect to Tim, we shouldn’t listen to anything that man says when he’s talking about what’s to come. I mean, he’s the producer of the show, so he can change his mind about something from day to day. And it’s not his first interview. A lot of things he previously mentioned never even happened in the show.

Also, I think I’m gonna puke when I say this, but I have to use one of the arguments BoBs used a lot. I don’t think Tim would spoil anything. I think that’s why he’s so distant and, I don’t know, skeptical about BuckTommy. They are literally in the middle of a "will they/won't they" storyline, and if Tim said they are in love, viewers would know they’re getting back together. But now, we have to wait and see.

Of course, they might not end up together and might not be endgame (which I really hope they are), but if it happens, I just hope they finally give Buck someone who loves him and whom he loves, because seeing him in yet another relationship would be so boring. The only thing I can’t justify or explain is Tim saying Buck needs to "find out who he is alone." I think we’ve seen enough of that. We already know he’s a great friend, an amazing firefighter, someone who loves his job, who is kind and selfless (mostly). We’ve been there. I don’t know if Tim forgets that or if it’s just his standard excuse, or whatever.

And finally, I would love to see ABC actually do something about those "journalists" who get screeners and share them with fans in their group chats. This isn’t the first time we’ve seen random people leak spoilers. I don’t know, I just think it’s really disrespectful to everyone involved in making the show and to the viewers because spoilers take away the excitement.

Wow, I didn’t think this would be so long. Sorry for any mistakes, English is not my first language.

I love your cheese blog and I hope you are well <3

English isn't your first language? I wouldn't have thought that at all! Your ask is well thought out and I agree with everything you said!

Biggest take away from you that I want to comment on is the argument that Tim won't/can't spoil anything. You're right. He's not going to come out and say, "yes, Tommy is the one for Buck." He'd not only ruin the ride but he would also piss a few fans off, a huge "No no" in Hollywood.

[mpregbuck]

I feel like atp even if there were plans to make bvddie canon theyre gone now. if tim minear is even half as petty as I am he would see that reaction and go u know what fuck you u actually don't get what you want now cause ur acting so goddamn entitled. like when tarlos fans got mad about the deleted scenes instead of appreciating them being released and his reaction was to say "okay fine then I just won't release deleted scenes anymore" (like I'm sure it was mostly a marketing decision but part of me thinks they intentionally released a scene about bucktommy just to prove a point.) idk man it's just really upsetting as a bi man to see the absolutely vile shit bvddie stans are saying and even tho I love the ship I now never want it to go canon cause they've fuckin ruined it

hey anon, at first let me agree with the fact that i do in fact also love bvddie a lot and i still love reading fics for them, the edits of them are fantastic and the fanart is S tier. it’s a great pairing with a lot of potential there IF the writers decided to ever go there but…

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yeah, i agree. i honestly think before tommy was introduced again in 7x03 and the kiss in 7x04 that in my brain, bvddie was the most logical endgame for buck until it wasn’t.

i came into the show shipping bvddie much like a lot of new fans to the show but instead of hopping onto the tommy anti express hate train i found myself falling in love with buck and tommy together. at first i was still on board with bvddie still being endgame but as each episode aired after 7x04 i became faced with the reality of the situation (at least the way i see it) that bvddie might always be fanon and that’s ok because fandom keeps ships alive whether they’re canon or not. some of the biggest ships EVER are non-canon (i mean, cmon spirk? one of the OG MM ships?) so it didn’t really deter me from enjoying bvddie to this day. what HAS deterred me from interacting with bvddie content is toxic bvddies. i don’t like using the lil nicknames, idc if other ppl do, whatever, but i prefer just referring to certain kinds as just toxic plain and simple.

toxic shippers have made it difficult for anyone who multiships to interact with bvddie content. while there are incredibly nice & welcoming bvddie endgamers out there, it doesn’t overshadow the hateful ones in my online experience at least. i’ve blocked so many ppl over this ship discourse, which ive never had to do with any other fandom before the extent i have with 911. everyday i still find new ppl to block, you go under almost any comment section on the 911 insta and its filled with nasty comments abt tommy and only caring abt whether bvddie will be canon in s8. people projecting their hatred of tommy/lou onto the cast/crew of the show when it’s be said and proven time and time again that it’s quite the opposite. now im certain there’s bad apples in the bucktommy side as well, but from what ive seen online so far it is not nearly to the caliber of the bvddie side. ive blocked maybe a handful of bucktommy’s for being hateful towards eddie or being toxic overall, but ive probably blocked over 100+ toxic bvddies. i can only imagine it’d be worse if i was active on 911 twt which i’m not (thank god) but i have ventured into the tags before on there and let me tell you, it’s fucking horrifying how gross ppl are over there. twt is a cesspool for fandom anyways tho, the fucking asshole of fandom, it’s a septic tank really.

now im my own opinion which could be completely untrue of course, but just basing my thoughts on what i’ve seen online and interviews and such, tim seems to be really happy about bucktommy and idk how ppl believe otherwise. tim has expressed he loves LFJ and wanted him back on the show. tim showed up on set for the kiss scene. tim posting an entire youtube vibe abt bucktommy being soulmates that touches on the invisible string theory and explains how they accidentally found buck’s perfect match. tim sharing the deleted tommy scene is also huge but im waiting to see if he releases more (because i remember seen somewhere that he said there’d be more?) and if he does then great but it’s also still pretty telling to me after the whole karaoke fiasco.

oliver has said nothing but praises towards buck’s queer storyline. he quite literally said if you dont like it then watch something else. despite ppl saying he’s never interacted with bucktommy content online, that’s a lie because he has liked fanart of them.

aisha, kenneth & tracie have all expressed how they like tommy/lou and love working with him.

jlh said she loved bvddie before but is excited to see where buck and tommy go and then on an insta live said she doesn’t think bvddie is happening and was bombarded by toxic fans to the point of ending the live early.

ppl think it’s all some ruse to make it seem like bvddie is never happening so when it does happen it’s a “surprise” ……..

the nasty hate comments are doing nothing but exposing these types of ppl for who they are and that honestly to them, 911 is just the bvddie show to them. the people who run these social media accs for 911 are looking at these comments and cringing, they aren’t running to tim and abc being like “we must give these crazies what they want!” they’re mostly likely being ignored or honestly, as you said, being looked at and just reinforcing their decision to most likely make tommy buck’s endgame so as long as his schedule is open for filming.

what gets me the most about the hate these types of shippers spew online is how they aren’t embarrassed because they are so sooo convinced they will be right one day and therefore their insane, nasty behavior online will be justified. oliver stark literally left twt because of fans like this, people act like he was joking around, that he was shooting the shit probably because “he’s british and british people just have that kind of humor” which yes to a certain extent but let me just add these posts to set an example to why if oliver were still on twt he absolutely would not be happy with the way toxic bvddies are acting right now.

oliver (and ryan&other cast too) being positive abt bvddie never meant it was going to be canon of become canon one day. they do not decide these things, whether they believe it should or not. a lot of bvddie shippers come from previous fandoms where queerbaiting was there, where they were made fun of by actors of their ships, by the creators of the show! so i understand the frustration but oliver is not queerbaiting and buck is not a queerbait character when he quite literally is now confirmed bisexual and in a relationship with a man.

he’s just not the “correct” queer to these people. despite headcanons (hell even i hc eddie as queer!!) eddie so far, in canon, is not queer. by the end s7 he is still shown to not be over shannon and ruins his relationship with his son over this. ryan has stated in interviews he sees eddie as heterosexual, possibly pushing this because of the influx of ship discourse, and he’s glad to see a vulnerable and deep friendship that buck and eddie can have as a straight man and a queer man and how important he thinks it is.

every single thing that points to bvddie never going canon is like they’re being shot point blank in the chest. i get it, your ship not becoming canon sucks, but again, that is what fandom is for! shipping has never been about how canon smth is, there is 20k fics out there for bvddie and they aren’t canon. they can turn that into 40k, 100k, 1M if they really wanted to! instead they use their time and energy posting death threats, wishing death upon a gay character, bullying ppl online for enjoying a ship.

meanwhile from what ive seen bucktommys are rolling with goofy ass spy tommy theories created by antis and making jokes for our own fun.

so yes, i agree overall. they truly don’t deserve what they think they do. we didn’t whine and scream for a deleted scene. they did. we got ours without even expecting it and are having fun.

maybe if they behaved better i wouldn’t be so petty abt it. it’s a shame because of how much potential it has, unfortunately it is just not going that way atm. and even if it does one day, it is not because they paraded online with hate, it is because that’s the story tim and the others wanted to write and abc approved it.

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[kinardsevan]

How confident are you about BuckTommy getting back together? How do you think it might happen?

I don't know that I've put a number on it. And on one hand, it's because I live in this weird limbo where I'm positive they're getting back together because that's just how you tell a story. but I'm also one of those people who struggles to trust the writers not to fumble shit. So... I mean it's definitely more than 50/50. if I had to choose a number, I guess somewhere around 85/90%. because realistically, that number has only strengthened with my resolve over time (aka the hiatus).

now, I don't have a crystal clear idea on when they get back together. in fact, I spent roughly an hour on a video chat last night throwing out all the various scenarios that I think play into how it happens. hear me out:

so I think I was the first (and possibly only) person who commented on the fact that 806 being when they broke up signaled the end of the opening arc of the season. we're now in the midseason, telling that part of the story, and then obviously 807-812 will be the mid-season, and so forth with 813-818 being the final third. You can even arguably flex the middle part back into 811 if TM really wants the finale to be a multi-episode arc, as has been suggested. that all said, I think there are a few things that 805-808 set up for the rest of the middle of this season.

we got a lot of suggestion toward something happening. I'm really kinda sold on a helicopter crash actually happening midseason, mostly because I feel like holding it off for the finale would piss off the people who would be like "Tommy's not a MC". I also think that (unfortunately) not everyone views Tommy in the same blorbo shape we do, so as much as we would enjoy a three episode arc with a helicopter crash, coma, etc.,....it's just not going to shake out that way. Not even if all of this has been done (the break up I mean) as a push for the network to pony up more money to add him to the main cast (that's my own theory, there's absolutely no proof of it).

I know I've listed all of these in previous asks, but just in case this is the first one you're seeing, let's go through the list:

805: "having a crew like this around you when things go wrong" "especially when things go wrong" // "our people are what make our lives worth living

806: "no matter how badly I want it to be, I'm not your last" "they can be the same thing" // (Buck's entire understanding by the end of the Glee scene that yes, he is in fact in love with Tommy, even if he didn't say it)

807: ALL the baking. We have to reference back to 705 when Buck told Eddie "I kinda can't stop thinking about him", which then translatd in 807 to "whenever I think about calling Tommy, I channel it into something positive" (i.e., the baking), and we also know he's constantly baking. Even in 808, he has the entire basket that he shows up to Eddie's house with, which very much suggests, he's trying to move on, but is still very much in love with Tommy. ALSO, the "what if he's hurt and needs my help" 808: I honestly feel like the only real scenes that we got in this entire episode that moved the plot forward at all were the scene (sort-of) with Eddie and Brad (which honestly should've been Bobby/Eddie, but whatever), and the scene with Buck and Eddie. There's also this fascinating conversation that could be had about Buck with the whole "I'm still jonesing for it"/wanting to keep baking. There's so much out of 807 and 808 that really point to Oliver's commentary with the post-806 interview where he talked about Buck swinging like a pendulum, trying to figure out if he should reach out or just let go. But here's the thing: there's no closure on this. Given that we follow the story through Buck's eyes, the show is telling us that Buck has not been able to shut the door on this relationship, which really serves us (the audience) then, with the need for this to be hashed out, for Buck to say his piece, and then let pieces lie where they may.

Now, the naysayers will argue that this could just be a final conversation of goodbye, and they're welcome to feel that way. Except.

"No matter how bad I want it to be" // "We don't have to get engaged or married" -- Even as a general audience member, I think people can understand that these are serious statements. They're both saying that they want a future together, but Tommy's fear (and Buck's steamrolling) have (temporarily) put a stop to that. I think there's also a point in some of the statements that came out of that same post-806 interview, where TM said Tommy was setting Buck "free" to explore his sexuality and learn more about himself.

now, there are a million and a half interpretations to this. some people think that Buck absolutely needs to seek out and understand more about himself (and by extension, Tommy). some (like me) don't feel that this is a show that's ever going to publicly acknowledge Buck having a scene where he says the words "I'm bisexual" out loud. I've also seen a take recently that was half meta/half fic kinda looking at the idea of Buck's questioning in 806 being because he didn't fully understand the engagement of the outside world to their relationship. the only problem with that rhetoric is that we have 705 and 706. we have the coffee date, where he holds Tommy's hand and publicly asks him on date, and then we have him kissing the other man in public. if he's done it once, he's done it a million times after six months, so I don't think you're facing a situation where he's uncomfortable with who he is, especially when he openly outed himself to every person he loves with said boyfriend. (granted, there are complaints about the whole "I noticed you didn't" conversation, at which I feel the need to remind people that, in the grand scheme it may not seem like that conversation makes much sense, but Buck is the vehicle through which the show was using to get to the story about Abby; also there's a difference between asking someone about their sexuality versus asking them if they've ever been with x gender. I also cannot stress the importance in that particular scene of, Buck is and always has been bisexual. Even if he's only recently come to understand that's what it is, he has ONLY EVER KNOWN having the concept of being sexually attracted to both genders, even if he didn't think that dating men was an option before Tommy. [and also, there's such a full-on essay I could write about this issue alone, given his upbringing]. I think in relation to that, you have to be understanding to his "I noticed you didn't", because he probably can't conceptualize a version of people who are only straight or gay, because he's always looked at both the same way.)

THAT ALL SAID:

obviously I've commentated on the fact that we're going to get some kind of injury/accident/etc. Another quote that stays in my mind with the interviews post-806 was the final line in one where Oliver made the statement that "it's 911, there's always trauma coming". (I'm butchering that, but it's the general point). granted, we can take that as we choose/view it through the lens of Maddie's kidnapping... except, someone asked @nqueso-emergency recently about the episodes that had been directed by the directors of 809/10, and looking at that list as I was literally watching several of those episodes really led me to the idea that there's the possibility that we're been fed a swerve with what we know about the coming episodes. we've been told Maddie will be kidnapped, and even shown those scenes. I've personally questioned/theorized whether that will somehow feed into the b/t of it all, and Buck's situationship he's going fall into. obviously because we don't actually have answers, there's a million different ways that could pan out.

when I tell you I have a million and a half theories... I have a million and a half theories.

Like... what if Buck also gets kidnapped and it has to do with the situationship? Or what if it doesn't, but he still gets kidnapped? Or what if Tommy is kidnapped along with Maddie, and it is or isn't related to the situationship, but generally has something to do with Buck and Maddie? I just keep coming back to this thing of the eventual rescue that has to come out of the kidnapping, and the different ways that can play out. One of the things I was thinking most about lately was how I feel like you could see the episode end similarly to 610, where things feel like they've settled and they're going to be okay (Maddie's been found; Tommy and Chimney going after the Buckleys to bring them home, helicopter crash being the final scene of the episode), which would then tee up an entire episode where you can play out the drama of the break up, whatever confessions came through the kidnapping, etc. because that's my other thing: I genuinely feel like whatever disaster is going to befall Tommy that leads to him realizing that these people are also his people, is going to be with Evan. TM has done this before (most notably with Judd, from my own memory of LS). crashing the helicopter with the two of them together and forcing them to survive while having unresolved issues really forces them to lay things out to one another. now. will that necessarily be how the show does it?

who knows.

I've also flirted with the idea of Chimney and Tommy going after Buck and Maddie (because at the end of the day, this is a rehashing of Doug kidnapping Maddie, so we know Buck will go after her), and there not being a helicopter crash, but Tommy getting into trouble for taking government property (again), but this time getting in actual trouble for it. if they wanted to play into the entire "Eddie going to Texas" storyline, they could demote him, ship him back to the 118 (I just keep hearing Chief Alonzo tell him "since you love the 118 so much, you can go back there"), and the following episodes really playing into OS' slow burn of them not being together but also having forced proximity, which obvs would ultimately lead to them getting back together by the end of the season. this also really tees up the option that people like where we get storytelling on Tommy's past through him and Buck just generally being forced to engage more in a way that isn't romantic. and then obvs by the end of the season, Eddie would come back, Tommy would do some heroic shit that would get him back to the 217, and so forth.

the last little idea I've played with most recently, post-810, is the idea that they do the kidnapping, the resolution (without Tommy at all), and we see a massive time jump. Truth be told, I don't think they'll skip over baby Han #2's birth, but I also was kinda like "...but what if they did?" what if we skipped ahead in the timeline a year or two? Eddie going to Texas, Madney having their baby, Bathena's house being finished, Henren having their time with their kids, and Buck having his "discovery stage".... only to circle back around to the fact that over the course of a year (or two, etc), he's still in love with Tommy. Sure, the infatuation is quieter now in his head, not as prominent and the grief doesn't hurt as much... but any time they run into each other on-scene or in public, that pang is still there. the love is still there. you could really parlay that into something akin to when Maddie went back to Chimney in 218 to reconcile, which I think is an option. Maybe even twist it into a version of "you were my first, and I still want you to be my last".

the only other version of this I have personally conceptualized is the idea that the kidnapping happens (once again without any involvement with Tommy), things are working out, Buck is having his situationship... and then the helicopter crash happens. I've definitely flirted with idea leaning towards Buck/Josh because I think the bones are all already there, at which point you then get some level of a scene where there's a group scene, the news of the crash is heard, and you swiftly get this acknowledgment of "welp, that's over". because I am not at all putting it past this show to use a NDE to be what pushes b/t back together. especially because, at the end of the day, these are two people who told each other they want to spend the rest of their lives together (refer back to my barriers comment above). I will not put it past them to have what shakes Tommy's resolve is one of them almost dying and realizing he'd rather be scared and alive than know one of them could be dead and not have had that time together.

anyway....i've word vomited for ages now. this took me like an hour to write. you're welcome.

yall really gotta stop sending me these asks b/c then I just hyperfixate and go all "look at my brainmap!"

[weewookinard]

The saddest part of me (chapter 11)

It turns out I love long chapters and breaking hearts.

This chapter is really important to me and to the story: it deals with rejection sensitive dysphoria, and there is a flashback about the proposal. It has been an intense writing so feel free to comment and give me some love ❤️

This fic has: ex to lovers, BuckTommy, angst with a happy ending, a depiction of ADHD and rejection sensitive dysphoria, platonic Buddie being bestfriend because Eddie FINALLY went to therapy, Hen being worried for her friends, Madney original child character, Tommy has a boyfriend, everyone is sad, mostly the author

You can find my work on AO3

Excerpt:

“Darling, my love, please, let me explain. Please look at me, just, Evan.” Tommy kept trying to have him look at him, cupping his face in his hands, but not bold enough to force Evan into it. Which Evan was glad for, not ready to see the truth in front of him. He suddenly realised that he was still holding the little box. He dropped It and the ring fell. The jewel looked so small now, and yet so big. Big enough to destroy his world. Bigger than the wave that destroyed the pier. Evan had known for a while now what it was like to drown. It hurts. A lot. “Say something before I lose my mind.”

I'll be a little bit bold tonight and i'll tag all the people that seemed to have an interest for the fic, feel free to dm if you are mad at me ❤️

@goldenhxurs @captainwitharedstar @girlwonder-writes @xofemeraldstars @do-androids-dream-ao3acc @searching-for-the-moon @shaunashipman @nymeria1105 @typicalopposite @kinkley-are-adorkable-flirts @rdng1230 @leandra-winchester @aaronntviet @bangpop91 @theotherbuckley @v88sy @banxnq @laundryandtaxesworld @kinardevans

[arabella-s-arts]

Okay, since I haven't really shared my thoughts on Buddie here yet. I thought I would share them, not for any particular reason, mostly just so I can get them out of my head. I will also briefly talk about my queer Eddie headcanons.

Okay, let's start with Eddie. Look, I would say that that man is gay, but the way he reacted when he first met Ana was not very homosexual of him. So based on how he acts in canon, I either think he's aromantic bisexual, or homoromantic bisexual (which is rare, but does happen). Personally I'm leaning more toward homoromantic (maybe that's just because I ship him with the hot priest), but I keep aromantic around for funsies.

Anyway, now I'm going to talk about Buddie. I don't ship it. I don't hate the ship, I totally get why people want them together, but I went into the show knowing about Buddie and expecting I would also ship it just for me to not. I tried to ship it, but I never really got into it. When Eddie was first introduced it felt like it could go the romantic way, but then their relationship settled into friendship, and that's all their relationship felt like to me, friendship. I mean, I would joke that they should just kiss already, but not because I actively wanted them together, but because I like drama. I know there are things that aren't typically seen as a friends thing, but a romantic partner thing, that they do. But I kind of loved that Buck and Eddie were doing all these non-traditional things together because they were friends, and that's just how their relationship is. Anyway, I was trying to be in support of Buddie maybe eventually going canon for a while, because I know how much it would mean to other people. But once we were reintroduced to Tommy, all that went flying out the window. Because Buck and Tommy's relationship were giving all the things I felt like I supposed to be feeling about Buddie. I know polyamory is a thing, I think it's great that people ship Buddietommy, but I don't personally have a lot of polyamorous ships, just because I always end up shipping one couple in the trio more than the others, and that doesn't seem fair to the third person. Anyway, I think Buddie got permanently ruined for me after Bucktommy, and especially after how a lot of Buddie fans treated Lou and that relationship. And I know that's not all Buddie fans, I am not judging a whole based on a fraction. I still think Buddie is a good and valid ship, it just isn't for me.

[kocch]

this is a rambling post no one is gonna read but I GOTTA WRITE IT because i've watched the whole 911 show in the past five months and never really talked about it, so i gotta say some things that are important to me (some might be unpopular opinions idk i don't really know the fandom, i've only checked the tag in the past weeks for s8 and all i can see is mostly annoying fanwars about which ship is better)

my dash could be biased and tumblr itself could be biased for mlm ships BUT WHY DID I NOT KNOW THIS SHOW HAS LESBIANS. like. i'm gonna use the few screencaps i posted here on tumblr while i was binge-watching the show buT

they're everything they're the best they're all i've ever wanted and they're not talked about enough, i don't know if it's because they're a wlw ship and they're a BLACK wlw ship or it's just that they're an enstablished couple and all, but damn i wish i saw them more in my dash and here on the freaking gay website because they have given me so many emotions through the seasons and they're SOLID and i just love them so much :( of course i know karen is not always present because it's a procedural show and sometimes the characters disappear for episodes, but they've solidified 911 in my heart . because damn this show is QUEER and it has been queer since day 1

my top faves are chim maddie hen and buck ok i don't make the rules they're the best but I LOVE THEM ALL and i think one of the best things of this show is the found family concept. you just gotta love them all. even if sometimes they have crazy writing moments through the seasons (like when buck tried to sue 118 or when eddie left 118 jfefhrf)

i love LOVE LOVE 911 because of all the feelings, the found family, how inclusive it feels with all the queer storylines and how diverse the main cast is (but also the case-of-the-day cast too... i'm a fan of another procedural like fringe, it was the 2010 and it was the whitest thing ever, (and the production was racist too) things have changed) BUT IT'S still copaganda. athena grant is a lot of copaganda. the two things can coexist i can love her and despise her story at times ok.

i hope we get a great henren/madney storyline in season 8 because (they're literally my faves) they're the best. i kinda wish for chim and maddie to long for a second children, now that they have mara in their lives? I'm not sure, i just know i need more of them. they're literally . so good to me. they've captivated my heart in s2 and they never left. the potential chim and maddie had was so great, but timing, trauma, depression, many things were keeping them apart, and every win felt EARNED. i just think sometimes straights have rights and that's madney's case.

i love buck like anyone in the fandom, but i think part of the craze on tumblr is due to his bisexual storyline and i gotta say... i do enjoy bucktommy. atm they're cute. being silly and in the honeymoon phase. do i ship buddie? i do, there are so many GREAT things through the seasons that make you feel - wow they could be perfect together - but that doesn't mean i will hate on bucktommy for now (yeah, i know, tommy was horrible in the past, yeah he was closeted and repressed, yeah he could have been better, he was racist and homophobic, i know, but i guess he got better since the characters are ok with him? sometimes we'll never get that resolution on screen) (i think all of them had their bad moments as characters, i mean, i could open a whole file about athena being a bad cop and still she's everyone's faves)

getting back to buck i did love his bisexuality storyline and i love him BEING BISEXUAL, it's not about tommy or about eddie or about anyone it's about him being bisexual. in his early 30s. BUT I gotta say, for how writers have written these characters, for me it made so much more sense for eddie to turn out gay than buck having his bi moment (and it's because of the writing). it makes sense for buck to be bisexual because he has always loved women and he's tried to make his relationships work, unlike eddie, but then he found out he also like men. he had soo many queer hints around him and it's just. fitting. i love him to bits. i wish s7 was longer so we could get things a bit slower, the pace was fast but i loved it. AND DAMN buck was jealous of eddie because of tommy? or of tommy because of eddie? I wonder.

i'm not sure 100% they'll go with buddie for now, but maybe it's just i am not an optimistic per se and i wanna see where they go with eddie's personal growth BUT eddie is gay. he gotta be gay. that man only had one love in his life, shannon, and that love is an idea he has. he thinks they had a great love story, but the truth is that they met when they were young, she got pregnant, he ran away from her for years with the military stuff, then he came back and she ran away, then they got together but still she asked for divorce and then she died. he denies her leaving him because of an idea of something that never really existed. even if he loved her, i'm sure he did love her but, it wasn't something perfect or functioning like bathena henren and madney. eddie is a terrible romantic partner (he's a good dad, but a terrible guy to date lbr) and it's because he's gay. i know everyone in the fandom agrees but i gotta write it down ok. when he's forced to date he feels like he has to perform? he self-sabotage all his relationships with women?? his love stories always end because of him? he had panic attack because of committing to ana??? come on ? the marisol storyline?? That shit is insane if he isn't gay

and that's why i'm asking for eddie to come to terms with who HE REALLY IS without christopher in his life. he's not just chris dad. he gotta stop running away. they have the possibility to make a great storyline for him, after several weird seasons for the poor guy. he gotta understand and accept himself and then maybe he'll work out the things with his son. this is one of the most exciting storylines for s8 and i really hope we get it. if we don't we need a PROPER story that makes sense with all of that tbh.

i'm ok with buddie happening in another season tbh i just want eddie to come to terms with his sexuality. i just love good writing and this show has its great moments with characters and that's why i love it, because it has heart. it has incredible characters i love.

i do love bathena and bobby and athena even if it might not be obvious in this post hahah and i wish we could get back may and henry, i miss athena having actually children

[azaharinflames]

To me, it feels like the lingering threads in the next few episodes are:

Athena grief

Ensemble grief

Madney baby

Bucktommy

Gerard/who is captain next

Eddie's career

The captain question should be a hen SL but who knows with the black mold making decisions on this show.

The eddie thing will probably be, like, two scenes if that (given that his relationship with Chris is narratively resolved atp). It'll be either a brief "hey eddies back for *handwave* reasons" or "eddies got a job at the el paso firehouse".

Athena and the pregnancy SL will probably be the major beats we focus on after the funeral, with some time for bt but I can't imagine a lot.

Remember that this show hasn't actually given them that many scenes in any episode outside of masks. I think they can do a lot with little screen time so I'm not too worried.

(Also I personally do want whatever we get to be tied up with some high stakes earthquake disaster because I'm a sucker for that, but I'll take what we get tbh)

You actually brought up a great point, Nonnie. BT has shown that they can do a lot with little screentime, and that fans will eat it up. Not to say they won't give them more come Season 9, but somehow they've manage to establish themselves in such a short time that a short reconciliation scene could work, because Oliver and Lou sell the shit out of their scenes together. It's insane to me that they weren't chemistry tested lmao.

As for the rest - look, I've said it, I think Hen is the right choice for Captain and the person that makes the most sense. But the black mold is the black mold, and I saw it taking a shape during 815 I didn't necessarily like.

Eddie's SL with Chris is mostly closed by now, so my current bet/theory is that we will see him dealing with his grief/being away when the emergency happened in 816 (also putting my bet out now that the person he talks to about finding out via phone will be Father Brian, and not anyone from the 118 and adjacent), and then we'll see him back in Texas, still dealing with it. My personal theory is that he will have an open spot at the firehouse in El Paso. Don't know what the show will do with it just yet though.

And I do agree that the main attention / most screentime will go to Athena and Chimney (+Maddie and the pregnancy), which I'm genuinely happy and excited for.

[funnylovepuppis]

I should probably shut up about it because there is so many other people talking about it. But I can't stay silent about it. I can't stress enough how upset and uncomfortable I am with being here in buddie fandom right now.

As a bisexual myself, I agree with the importance of its representation in mainstream media. Especially when it comes to male characters, who are really low in static speaking. We can all agree on this, and hopefully, we can all see it. I'm really thrilled about Bi Buck's journey and about finding his happiness. He's not fixed, he just found out about his other sides he never knew they were existed before. As @m3r1m4r5u333 said in their post, bisexuality is not a personality, just a small piece in whatever color that is a part of many more pieces of soul. Buck, like many real-life people, is trying to figure out himself. I honestly don't think that self-journey will ever stop, not just on sexuality but on many other things. That's how living is, right? So yes, it's very exciting and kind of carefree for him, and I'm truly happy. He deserves it big time after all that he has been through. And I really think that Tommy is genuinely the right person for him at the moment.

But aside from me being bi, I'm also demisexual. Honestly it's more than that for me, because besides the need for emotional connection before sexual intimacy, I need some degrees of emotional connection before even getting into dating. So as you can see, I'm very much attached to Buck and Eddie relationship. I'm mostly finding myself a lot in Eddie's character. I do feel a lot of pressure on starting to date someone nowadays. And I'd probably be single for a long time because that's kinda how how people go to date. You meet someone you like and interested to explore the romantic dynamic and that someone is a completely stranger to you so it's kind of scary and stressful.. I'd rather be someone's friend and then lover..

Yes, best friends have a different kind of love than just two friends. That doesn't necessarily mean that it must have a romance subtext or under the surface, especially when it comes to two people of the same gender. And sure, all the things related to buddie are open to interpretations and any ways that people who see it differently are pretty legit.

We can argue about why things are the way they are. I can acknowledge that Eddie is not in the same emotional place as Buck, and it can be taking a long process for him, if at all, to realize his own feelings about himself and Buck. But at the same time, I can say that although it seems like Buck and Eddie communicate in a very healthy way, there's a sense of underground miscommunication that leaves both of them scared to make a move or talk about their deep feelings and observations on their own relationship. Because what they have is great, so why ruin it for a good change, right? And there is lots of evidence that saying buddie are partially soulmates. Having back from each other. Their reactions are when the other one is in a dangerous situation, such as the firetruck, the wall, the shooting, and the lighting strike. The will. The family moments of Buckley-Diaz. Going to each other's home as a safe place. The teasing from surrounding people about them. The jealousy. Their parallels to other couples on the show/

I guess I'm trying to say to the people who are feeling like some people are not very happy about Bucktommy because they are not appreciative of the new queer couple or the very fact that it's B-Buck canon. I understand the need for bi-representations and am happy to see that. It seems very worth the long wait for this. And yet, I want to say, give buddie stans time, including me. Because our feelings are legitimate and matter, too. It may come as rude or not excited about Bucktommy, but I think this is coming from being afraid and uncomfortable with how quickly many people from the fandom are shifting from Buddie to Bucktommy, even if they still believe in Buddie Endgame. Give us time to fall in love with this couple and connect with them. Give us time to warm up for them. Give us time because we have been attached to Buddie for 5 long years. We have been memorizing all of the episodes, plots, and quotes. Writing for 5 years, Buddie fics. Making beautiful gifsets and fan art.

Thank you for reading this if you have reached this far. 🩷

[tommykinard6]

I hope your weekend won't be bad but just in case I have some questions (mostly about fanon and not canon) to distract you. Pick and choose whatever interests you:

- How/ When do you think bucktommy will make their relationship official? Is it after dating for a longer time or will it be immediately after the wedding?

- Ignoring canon drama, what song should their dance at the wedding be to?

- What was the biggest lesson Tommy learned in therapy?

- Is Tommy still in touch with Sal?

- How would you like Maddie's and Tommy's first meeting to go?

- How would Buck react to Tommy getting injured on the job?

You’re so sweet! And because I definitely need the distraction, I’ll answer them all!

I feel like canonically speaking they’ll put a label on it in one of two places, either right after the wedding or somewhere around 7x10. I’m not sure which one I’m leaning more towards, but I think they won’t wait too long because they know the risks of the job.

Ooooooh I have three possible answers to the dance question. And I don’t listen to a lot of good wedding dance songs 🤣. Either Perfect by Ed Sheeran, All of Me by John Legend, or Halo by Beyoncé.

How to forgive himself. I was going to type how to love himself, but I don’t think he could love himself until he forgave himself. Forgive himself for how he acted, absolutely, but also for all the pain he caused himself. All the stress and the heartache and low esteem that being closeted brought him. Forgive himself for making himself into a person he could barely recognize.

Ooooooh good question. Canonically, probably not. If he’s out, canon Sal would’ve dropped him like a sack of hot potatoes. In my headcanon, it depends on the story. Either no or yes but they talk very little. I feel like Sal being away from the 118 and growing older, maybe having some kids, might have made him into less of an asshole. Or maybe he’ll always be an asshole. Im not sure. Tommy could’ve also chosen to lose contact with him. Again, depends on the headcanon.

Tommy and Maddie’s first meeting! Well we all think that Chimney is being rescued by Tommy, so I can picture them rolling up and Maddie throwing himself into Tommy’s arms, thanking him profusely. Later over the wedding, maybe over the dinner or the dance, she takes the time to get properly introduced and talk to him a little.

Depends if Buck was there! Let’s assume he wasn’t. When he first hears the news (going back to my emergency contact headcanon), he goes still. He vaguely registers that Bobby is telling him to go. Maybe Eddie or Bobby or Hen or Chimney drive him to the hospital. Buck paces around the waiting room. Depending on how serious it is, the 118 might wait with him. Tommy has no family that would come/is close enough to, so when Tommy can receive visitors Buck is first in line to go in. And seriousness of the injury can vary, but let’s say it’s an observe overnight deal, so Tommy’s got his room. Buck barely touches him at first, eyes memorizing every detail of his face. But then Tommy mumbles, “Evan”, and Buck places both hands on his face and gently presses kisses all over it, ending with one to his lips.

[ironworked]

The 911 Tag Game

Tagged by: @hehasacleft (thank you!)

Rules: answer your opinion on these nine topics, then tag nine other people to give their opinion as well

Favorite Character: main character, Buck (I've loved his journey and how he interacts with everyone and has a variety of dynamics with them). Recurring, Tommy (great chemistry with everyone, hinted but still-mostly-untapped potential, ridiculously charming, fantastic sense of humor...).

Character you relate most to: Tommy is both relatable and inspirational to me.

Favorite episode: I'm going to say a few -> Chimney Begins; Buck Begins; Jinx; Treasure Hunt; Tomorrow; In Another Life; Buck, Bothered and Bewildered; Masks.

Hottest take: Athena is not a paragon of virtue as a person or a professional (all that @hehasacleft said). Buck isn't more immature than the rest of them, he's just the one who gets called out for it (when he's actively trying to improve!). On that note, Eddie's only real progress in all 7 seasons has been making up with his father.

Favorite Lone Star Character: Carlos and Tommy, and kudos to the actors because they do a lot of heavy lifting.

Favorite Ship: Bucktommy.

Most underrated character: I'll talk about the show because I don't know fandom's feelings on this; I keep to this little Bucktommy corner and you all have good sense/taste. So.

Main character, Chimney (the writers clearly think of him as Maddie's partner most of the time, it's so clear when you go back and watch s1) and it's a damn shame because Kenneth Choi is one of the best actors they have and there's so much left to tell about Chim. Recurring, Karen. Like Choi, Tracie Thoms is one of their strongest actors and does wonders with what she's given, yet 8 seasons in she's still severely underutilized and we know very little about Karen.

Most underrated ship: Eddie/Taylor (I fully maintain it could still work. Wouldn't be traditional but it'd be interesting and also good for Eddie), Buck/Albert -- Wait shit, I just realized... Sal/Josh. Is anyone doing that?

One thing you would love to see: payoffs for the storylines they start? :P I want Buck and Tommy back together. I want it for them as characters and for what it means to me, but also because at this point it's a litmus test for if this show can be trusted at all. Other than Bucktommy, this: I want them to show us different combinations of characters, and more variety in the kind of drama they're each immersed in (personal vs romantic vs professional).

Tagging anyone who wants to do it! I think most of you have probably done it/are on it right now!

[toxicpositivitybuddie]

i had a long ass anon written you that pointed out a bunch of the hypocrisy coming from bucktommy shippers who demand buddie shippers call out every bad thing that allegedly has come from a buddie shipper while remaining suspiciously silent when there's hanious shit being thrown at buddie shippers (probably by bucktommy shippers) and you don't see buddie shippers demanding an entire fandom apologize for it.

I deleted that anon before I sent it because it felt mean when i reread it and i'm not trying to be mean. i've just seen your post reblogged a few times (because hey fun fact i'm also a multishipper) and every time I see it i get a bit frustrated by the tone and premise. when i say there are shitty shippers all around i mean that and it isn't just about their "opinions" it's about the death threats, racism, wishing ryan had actually taken his own life, and so on.

i’m not demanding anyone apologize for anything for one thing.

i’m saying can we as a collective fandom say “don’t do this”. i called out buddie shippers bc for me personally it’s the majority of what i see - maybe it’s because it’s the bigger group idk but the point is, that’s mostly where i’ve seen it from and that’s specifically what i’ve seen. im a multi shipper. i’m actually MORE a buddie shipper. i think as a buddie shipper i feel better if i say please dont do this when something happens.

i think there’s a big problem in fandom when simply saying if you’re doing this in the name of a ship we like i just want you to know let’s not be friends. it feels very much like everyone saying if you speak out against this you don’t get to play with us go find some other playground. legitimately. it makes me uncomfortable and i’m going to talk about it.

no one has to read my blog. if you think it’s unfair to say i think there’s a problem in fandom when i feel like i am legitimately not allowed to interact with a lot of buddie fandom because i also like another pairing or because im friends with bucktommy shippers that’s your right but it’s how i feel.

for what it’s worth, i have acknowledged this in other asks, but if any bucktommys out there think it’s okay i don’t want to know them either and im sorry if that wasn’t clear. i think its abhorrent behavior. i dont want to be friends with abusive bullies no matter what side they’re on.

[air--so--sweet]

All. Of. This.

Also not to shit on the entire fandom, because I do mostly have fun here, but I've been always been a someone who saw fandom as a fun and was always confused by people saying stuff like 'I survived superwholock tumblr' because I was on tumblr then and in two of those fandoms (and had a lot of stuff from the third cross my dash) and I never encountered whatever it was that was bad enough that people felt they survived it.. I was just happily reblogging gifsets and minding my own business.

And now, even when I'm more involved in fabdom spaces and fandom tumblr, I've mostly been having a wonderful time and the odd occasion I have come across something I dislike for whatever reason I've been able to just scroll on past.

And then I became part of the 9-1-1 fandom and I finally get what people mean when they complain about fandoms. Again, I mostly have a great time here, but the ship wars and sniping and people twisting the narrative, taking things out of context or just willfully and intentionally perceiving things incorrectly to fit their narrative and ideas of the show is exhausting. I have the tags bucktommy and tommy kinard filtered, not because I have Tommy or bucktommy as a ship (I don't hate either by the way, I think most of their relationship is fine and Tommy is an okay guy because I do believe people can and do grow and change over time) but because it was always either a buddie shipper shitting on Tommy and their relationship or a bucktommy shipper moaning about he was so much better for Buck than Eddie and he better come back and be endgame and the ship is so so superior to Buddie in every way. Why, why does this have to be a fucking competition? Why can't we just ship who we ship and let others ship who they ship and scroll past their posts if they come across our dash. Also I wish people would understand that any character who is romantically linked to your character who isn't who you ship them with, isn't the devil and they can add value to the narrative and the help move the story along, maybe even in the direction you want? Because Tommy being there in 8x11 actually furthers the buddie canon arc. But people are too busy shitting on him to stop and consider that (and/or they lack to media literacy to understand that).

While I'm here I'm also going through out another unpopular opinion because why the fuck not? I don't hate Taylor Kelly and I think the scene where they say I love you is awkward but cute and I do believe Buck was in love with her. I have issues with some of the writing of their relationship but I rarely see people complaining about the writing, they just don't like that she had a relationship with Buck and so focus on any minor tging she did that they can make look negative so they can act like she treated Buck terribly (don't get me wrong, she deserves criticism for some of her actions but Buck also deserves serious criticism for things he did in that relationship and never seems to actually get any).

I feel like I'm going to get shit for this and I also feel like maybe I shouldn't post it because I try keep my blog as free of negativity as possible but dear lord I am tired and I've been biting my tongue way too long.

the best part about tommy being back on 911: tommy being back on 911 the worst part about tommy being back on 911: watching my whole dashboard start shitting on a character I really like again, and having to decide if this or that post was mean-spirited enough that I should unfollow about it

[rainbowsandchocolate]

Ok, so I thought about this for a bit and I'm gonna preface it by saying that I am not very much into shipping anyway (this is probably somehow related to being aroace), which probably influences my view here. I also totally think they were setting up Buddie in 704 but it'll take some time.

However, for Bucktommy. Firstly, I think Tommy is a fun character and I'd love to keep him on the show but that's not my main reason here. I also think it would be really really good for Buck to have a person outside of the fire family to trust. The only person in his life that isn't his coworker is his sister, who is engaged to his coworker. Tommy is a fire fighter but he doesn't work at the 118 and I think that's probably a lot healthier for Buck. And unlike all his previous relationships (except maybe Abby until she basically abandoned him) Tommy seems to genuinely care about Buck as a person. (This can be a whole other post).

My main point is something else though and we're kinda circling back to what I said about how I don't enjoy shipping as much. (Don't get me wrong, I still think it's fun and Buddie is a cool ship - this is just my personal view.) But basically we have two paths in front of us right now. In case 1 Buck dates Tommy for a bit, they break up, maybe they will still be friends, but most likely Tommy will mostly fizzle out of their lives. (kinda sad because he's cool) And then Buck dates Eddie and we get Buddie wedding (yey). In case 2 Buck and Tommy keep dating - and crucially, setting this apart from all other relationships we had - Tommy is also friends with Eddie and seems like he recognises the importance of Buddie-friendship. Which means, we have the chance of having very close platonic relationship that can coexist with a romantic relationship (if done well). It means that Buck can have a boyfriend and a best friend and the best friend is more or equally important. (They could also become a polycule which would also be neat, but I think that's even less likely.) If this arc continues with Buck and Tommy together we can get an example of a very intimate male friendship that doesn't abide by the arbitrary rules and limitations of society and television ("there is in fact a platonic explanation if you aren't a coward").

Do you understand, where I'm coming from? I am overjoyed that we got bi Buck. I would still enjoy seeing Buddie together. But I would be even happier if Buck is dating a guy and still has a super valuable friendship with another guy - and a boyfriend who doesn't feel threatened by that. In my book, that would probably be much more revolutionary than two people dating because "friends can't be that close".

we finally have bi Buck!!!!!

okay so ik we're all like omg at buck in 7 x 04 but am i the only one who kinda ships buck x tommy more than buddie now??? like i dont know what it is but smt about them just

also plz dont br mean to me for this