#i hate katsuki so much

[flying-cat]

people who undermine the importance of izuku and katsuki's relationship throughout bnha because of "annoying shippers" or because they just don't like katsuki are insane because their relationship is literally so? important??? to the entire story???? katsuki is the deuteragonist of bnha. he was one of the first characters to show up. he was the first other person to know about OFA. so much of the manga is spent showing his development. if you deny his character development and relationship development ("relationship" does not always mean romantic relationship) with izuku, you are quite literally denying a massive part of the series. the manga starts with them and ends with them. you're allowed to dislike him but if you dislike him so much that you, in turn, start hating how izuku is a "punching bag" or a "doormat" for the entire series because he doesn't stay angry and vengeful at people even though a massive part of his character is that he's compassionate and kind even to people who aren't to him or used to not be, and you seriously think that that makes him weak, and you just start to dislike the main two characters of the series, i think you should. idk. stop reading, probably. read the revenge fantasy shit that you obviously want to read. there are like seven million manhwa available to you where the character gets the revenge you so desperately want to see.

[aromanticannibal]

while I see the appeal of izuku calling kacchan katsuki I think if he does katsuki should be allowed to burst into tears immediately

[harukamitsuki]

Ugghh been consuming some bnha stuff and I'm reminded of why I largely prefer fanfiction over the actual story. I have so much hate and pettiness within me. Even so, I am never going to change my mind on how much I hate how bnha is just an amalgamation of wasted potention. Search the definition of wasted potential up and there's just an image of bnha.

I remember watching it as the first season was coming about because it was made by Bones and I just have to watch it in that case. I watched episode one and was so excited.

We have our mc, Midoriya Izuku, being powerless in a world full of quirks.

His childhood friend turned bully, Bakugou Katsuki, is shown to be favoured by literally everyone and this feeds into his ego.

All Might, the number one hero, is jaded and powerless for 21 hours of the day because of a fight nobody knew existed. Izuku is attacked and helpless, but saved by All Might. All Might tells him he can't become a hero. A much needed reality check because Izuku didn't work out a single bit before then and it's so incredibly hard to fight someone who has something you lack.

Then Bakugou is attacked and helpless. Bakugou, who is so much stronger and who people love, is left useless, only able to make the situation worse with his explosions creating a fire hazard. The pro-heroes can't do anything. All Might and Izuku both hate themselves for the part they played and how useless they are. Then Izuku sees how scared Bakugou is. He runs in, inspiring All Might as he mocks himself for breaking Izuku's dream yet forgetting the core of heroism.

Then, after all is said and done, All Might goes back to Izuku. And he tells him he can become a hero.

...

Then he offers him One for All. Now, when I was watching this for the first time, I was so disappointed. You set up a powerless mc in a world full of powers and you just give him the power of the strongest hero? Great. But, I kept watching.

I watched Izuku work to get his power, struggle even after getting a quirk. I watched as Izuku finally stood up for himself and win against Bakugou. I watched as the series went on and I... I started noticing more and more missed opportunities.

See, bnha is supposed to be a zero to hero story. It's supposed to be about the mc going from powerless to powerful. But it does it so quickly. Suddenly, it's not about Izuku finding his own form of strength, or realising how being quirkless may not give any advantages but it also has no disadvantages, or even any commentary on quirk discrimination or fantastic racism or anything.

It turns into a story about controlling your power. It's not what I signed up for.

That's just one missed potential. There's so many more. Horikoshi clearly tries to make some commentary on quirk discrimination and female heroes/sexism in the workplace and entertainment over peace. There's some effort put into making a comment on how heroes are glorified and people don't see them as public workers, they see them as celebreties.

But it's never delved into. We don't see how bad people with mutant or 'villainous' quirks are treated, and we don't see how people with weak quirks are treated, or how the quirkless are treated (because the only reason Izuku was treated so horribly was because of Bakugou). We don't see how female heroes need to have a bit of allure in their personas to have any sort of support.

Yuuei is literally a camp for making child soldiers, yet there's no controversy over it? There's no such things as heroes having to take lethal action and no moral dilemmas over it? There's nobody speaking out about how Midnight flirts with students?

We have literally no information about how heroes work. We don't know how their salaries are decided, how they're ranked, how undergound heroes work. if twilight heroes are a thing, how anybody but Rock Lock feels about bringing children into adult matters, (seriously, why do people hate Rock Lock for being rightfully worried about having 15 year olds in a raid against the yakuza), we don't know how villains work and how to decide if one's a criminal or a villain.

Heck, the only laws we know of are fanon, and the canon stupid idea that you can't use your quirk in self-defense.

It's just. Incredibly infuriating.

Also, analysis as a whole is so under-utilised. Both Izuku and Shigaraki are deemed creepy for their analysis, which is such a useful tool. I mean, Izuku accurately guesses Stain's quirk, which is useful because, otherwise, they wouldn't be wary about Stain licking their blood or cutting them. Shigaraki accurately guesses the time intervals between Aizawa's blinks, which helps him a shit ton.

But is it ever used outside of these situations? No. The thing is, quirks are scientific in nature, not magic. Therefore, they're not restricted like magic is. Fire doesn't always have to be fire, it can be smoke or just heat. Ice can be water or steam. Acid can melt through anything or just be used as a mario kart banana peel.

There was so much missed potential and that's exactly why there's so much fan content.

Horikoshi leaves so much out, and everything he misses tends to be the interesting parts. He willfully explains Bakugou's quirk in detail, but everyone else? Nah. Fuck them.

I mean, let's look at Ochako's quirk.

Gravity negation. Or is it? See, if it were just gravity negation, then two things, in particular, would happen. First of all, Izuku would have fucking died when she saved him from falling. Second of all, she would not have been able to get infinity in the ball throw.

Negating gravity does not negate the forces. Therefore, when she saved Izuku from falling, he would have still been affected by the force of his fall. It would have been no different from hitting the concrete. Additionally, when she threw the ball, it kept going. Air drag would have made it so that she couldn't possibly get an infinity.

More accurately, rather than force negation as some fanfics suggests, she's telekinetically accelerating whatever she touches. She telekinetically accelerates Izuku's body to stop him falling, and does the reverse for the ball, making it so that it continues to accelerate after she throws it.

See what I mean? Because Horikoshi gave Bakugou's quirk a scientific explanation with him sweating a nitroglycerin-like substance and being able to spark it, you have to look at every quirk with scientific knowledge. He could have said 'oh, yeah, I store energy from my quirk in these gauntlets' but Hori just had to be a smartass.

By the way, because of Bakugou's explanation, it's possible that his quirk is not what is named. Yes, it's possible to have two sides of a quirk, as we see in Shouto, but Bakugou's quirk isn't explained in the same way.

Rather than his quirk being creating explosions, his quirk is more like creating sparks in his palms. Why? Well, you see. Bnha never delves into actual quirk theory, but there's more than enough canon evidence that you have one main quirk and then one or more quirk mutations. For example, Ashido Mina's quirk is secreting acid that she can manipulate the acidity and viscocity of. Her appearance is not related to her quirk at all, meaning it's a quirk mutation from her parents. Same with Tokoyami Fumikage. Quirk is Dark Shadow, so there's no need for the bird head.

Why does this relate to Bakugou? Let me explain: Bakugou explains that he recieved a mutation from his parents with his mother secreting glycerin and his father sweating acid with combustive properties. In other words, Bakugou inherited nitroglycerin-like sweat from his parents, but his actual quirk is being able to create sparks.

His quirk is 'Sparks'. Not Explosions.

Why am I ranting about this? Because bnha completely misses all of this! It makes no sense which is a shame because the concept is so interesting! But then it throws away any scraps of potential left when it becomes 'My Kacchan Academia'.

Seriously, why do people and why does Horikoshi love abusive pieces of shit so much? Why did he throw away the potential to look into Shouto and his siblings' feeling about Endeavour? Why did he make Dabi's plot all about Endeavour instead of Shouto?

It's so easy to compare the ways Dabi and Shouto handle their trauma and their ways of revenge. It's so easy to look at Dabi and think about how easy it would have been for Shouto to become like him.

Shouto was transfixed on Endeavour. Everything he did related back to his hate for Endeavour. Using his quirk, fighting, grades, social interaction, everything. His only reason for becoming a hero is to spite Endeavour. It's only because Izuku reaches out to him and saves him from his own toxic mindset that he's able to move one and do things for himself.

Dabi, or Touya, on the other hand, doesn't get that. He doesn't get that person who recognises how far he's gone, how, in trying to spite Enveavour, he's living a life centred on him. How he's jealous of his little brother for being abused and tormented.

While Shouto became a hero to spite Endeavour, Dabi became a villain.

They're both full of hatred at first, but Shouto is saved from that spiral. Izuku helps him. Dabi doesn't have that. It would have been so interesting to see these two face of as parellels, but nope. It's all about Endeavour. Shouto is nothing more than an accessory.

I understand Dabi being hung up on Endeavour, but to outright replace Shouto with the abusive flaming trashbag? No.

Also, if Horikoshi wanted Dabi to be seen as sympathetic or redeemable, don't make him kill innocent people. Don't make it so that he unlocks an ice aspect to his quirk in a life-or-death situation because all that means is that Endeavour was right to hurt Touya the way he did. All that says is Endeavour should have hurt him more.

AND DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON BAKUGOU.

This piece of shit bullied Izuku relentlessly for years, used his quirk on him (yes that is canon), told him to end his life, tried to assault him in Yuuei, tried to kill him, threw a tantrum at an abused kid for not being magically okay with using a quirk that reminded him of his abusive father, assaults Izuku when he tries to work together but still magically gets a pass for being carried out unconcious which Sero was failed for, and the list just keeps growing.

Oh, but my bad. He has a sad backstory. You see, he fell in a river.

[lynnielle]

ive seen too many people get katuski's and izuku's dynamic wrong so let's clear smth up: THEY WERE NEVER ENEMIES. hell they were barely rivals i feel like, it seems like only katsuki saw him as a "threat" while deku saw him as motivation to get better. deku looked up to that dude even tho he was like the worst person ever to him, bc he could still see how amazing a hero he was. and katsuki, was insecure and jealous. deku still wanted to be a hero, still wanted to rival against him even tho he was quirkless. he HATED that. because it was so admirable. and someone weaker than him had no right to try to be as good. he had tons of shite to work through that we literally see him work thru and people are STILL mischaracterizing him I'm losing my mind here. deku always has, and probably always will, look up to katsuki. katsuki will do the same. thats just who they areeeeee. they were never enemies. i love their dynamic a lot and how hori displayed everything so i HATE to see people simply dumb it down because they want them to be perfect lovers. i dont even ship bkdk like that but holy cow i have a better understanding of them compared to some shippers.

[luffythinker]

let's talk about the epilogue

i haven't been active here for a couple of weeks, but I feel like I need this space to vent a little. I'm very passionate about bakudeku, I love their friendship, their dynamic the way their relationship grew with the story and of course, I'm a shipper so I also love the innuendos and allusions to their potential romantic relationship. I NEVER expected them to become canon, this is shounen manga, I'm not losing chess to a dog here, but to me, the final chapter (430) was great because it left it open to positive interpretations for whatever we wanted to envision about their futures (either for bkdk or izch).

I've also been an Izuku fan since the very beginning, I love him so much, he is so often misunderstood by both the fandom and people in the anime community, I have always defended him with everything I got. So imagine my sadness and frustration when I see these leaks and fan translations and I can't even recognize Izuku anymore, because the Izuku I knew would never reject Katsuki's offer to be hero partners and/or be in agency together, yes i've seen the more positive interpretations of it all, but honestly, I think we only get there with a lot of copium and hope that we cling to on what horikoshi might have wanted to mean and what is actually displayed in there.

The topic I'm most upset about is not even the ship or izch being canon, it's that you can't deny that bkdk either as friends or something else have always meant a lot to each other, so it's honestly horrible to see izuku treating katsuki like there's barely anything there, can they even be called friends? and this just makes no fucking sense lmao cause they are intertwined, their stories have been growing together, Katsuki put his career n hold for 8 years to have izuku be a pro hero again by his side, just for it to all mean nothing? I'm sorry but i just can't see how the izuku that was written for the past 10 years could ever behave like this, i just cant claim this epilogue as a proper ending for them

There was just so much i wish we could have seen Izuku handling or at least something that would explain this drastic change on his behavior, he has always been a character with a lot of thoughts, but suddenly we have no idea what he's actually thinking anymore, and to me, that is the most frustrating. I also hate, that out of everyone, Bakugo did not get his happy ending... he deserved to smile, win to save and save to win, just once I wanted to see him being truly happy, but I guess at least in canon, we will never see it.

[evelynpr]

FINISHED WATCHING MHA MOVIE 2: HEROES RISING!!! SPOILERS AHEAD IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED IT

OH MY FUCKING GOD THIS WAS SO GOOD YO HOLY FUCK I LOVE IT AAAAAAAAAAAAA

This was truly My Bakudeku Academia. Watching that final battle felt like a religious experience- as if I was watching the birth of Christ. Holy fuck if that really was the original ending, with Deku passing OFA to Kacchan, and the whole "Oh it actually stayed with Deku and Bkg got amnesia" didn't happen, this would have been a dramatically different story moving forward.

Horikoshi really loves Bakugou- like absolutely no question. The story following this kind of ending would be about him continuing OFA's legacy with the guilt of a thousand suns on his shoulders for "taking away" Izuku's dream. Izuku would have continued the hero course as an actual quirkless student. I would love to see aus of this being canon and continuing their story from there.

I'm guessing Nine here was supposed to be AFO, and he would basically be gone too. Katsuma is perfectly set up to be the next protagonist (I can already imagine him using Cell Regeneration as Super Regeneration- he could become invincible while also healing others. Incredibly amazing quirk).

NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT I HAD WAS ADDRESSED. THE REST OF THE CLASS ACTUALLY DO FEEL STRONG AND USEFUL AND EVERYTHING AS SHIT I LOVE IT AAAAAAAA

YES MY GIRL OCHAKO FINALLY HAS HER BIG MOMENT FLOATING SO MUCH DEBRIS!!! I'M SO HAPPY- EVEN JIRO, AOYAMA, SHOJI, TOKOYAMI AND MORE HAD LEGIT GOOD SCENES AND FIGHTS I'M SO FUCKING HAPPY YEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHH THEY ARE SOOO COOLLLLL THEY GENUINELY GAVE IT THEIR ALL FUCK YEAHHHHH

(note. THAT WOLF GUY CALLED SHOJI UGLY- A FELLOW HETEROMORPH, CUS HE WAS PROJECTING HIS "MONSTER" ISSUES ON HIM HOW FUCKING DARE YOUUUUU)

THEY ALSO MAKE IT ACTUALLY MAKE MORE SENSE HOW THE WHOLE CLASS IS SEPARATED ON AN ISLAND TOGETHER AS A WHOLE CLASS THIS TIME TOO (and not just half like last movie). They even managed to tie it in to AFO, the LoV, and Hero Society. Like it actually feels more grounded and reasonable why the class would be here alone with supervision.

They even add hints of Touya Todoroki with him having a short battle with Endeavor, Hawks spying in the LoV, the HSPC head cameo, and other little things too. Man I loved this fucking movie I would watch it 10 more times right now.

[ko-odi]

here with a heavy heart to inform everyone that im currently cursed with mha hyperfixation

yeagh

ok bai :3

[seagreenstardust]

Anyone still calling late game Katsuki an abuser in 2024 is just not paying attention. Full stop.

[chatdae]

okay GENUINELY what does "We call everything on the ice 'love'" mean??

I am not certain what Yuuri means... maybe that all of the collaboration, competition, and sharing of ideas that takes place in skating is all a form of showing love? Enough to make me shake and cry and fall over, but i'd still love to hear if people have other interpretations

[happypeachsludgeflower]

Okay so legitimate question here, but is bkdk canon canon or heavily implied but with plausible deniability fanon canon now? I know it’s some flavor of canon because I��ve seen some panels and it looks super extra rainbow gay in the epilogue, but I can’t tell if Hori actually made them gay, or if it’s heavy handed queerbaiting that we’re all just running away with as the new canon. Like did we kidnapped the characters and declared it canon no matter what the official story says, or did the man actually say it??

[bisexualmultifandommess]

I’ve seen angst posts about the idea of in a fic or in the show someone tells Tommy that Buck doesn’t really like being called Evan and Tommy feels so bad so he tries calling him Buck (even though it sounds so strange to him) and Buck is upset thinking he’s done something wrong or Tommy isn’t really interested anymore even though he very much is he just didn’t want to make Buck feel uncomfortable.

But the comedy element instead where he still tries to call him Buck but Buck is like yo wtf and is like “why are you calling me that? You call me Evan” and Tommy is just like “oh the others said you don’t like that name I’m so sorry” and so Buck is half heartedly annoyed now because he had a mini heart attack and goes to tell the others he’s fine with it and like jokingly tell them off.

Meanwhile Chimney is just chilling in the firehouse and is like why do I hear boss music? Buck just comes in like wtf did you do???

[marimeeko]

Like don't be dumb, people, everyone knows that there is only ONE season of Bnha! And in that seaeon, Bakugou just HAAATES Izuku! Hates him so much he cries and becomes vulnerable in front of him....wait that doesn't sound right... and he also saves Izuku from an attack at the USJ...wait hold on...

Oh wait but Izuku! Izuku hates how Bakugou bullies him! But....wait, he expressly can't keep a secret from him...hates him so much that he...emulates him in battle at the USJ...?

Um there must be SOMETHING....

Oh! A BIG ONE:

When he was about to give up the entire idea of ever being a hero, the second he saw BAKUGOU, his bully, his estranged childhood bestie, was the one being slowly killed by a villain, he...

*checks notes*

Oh wait...

ANYWAY YEAH THEY TOTALLY HATE EACH OTHER

[harukamitsuki]

Why does the fandom find the jokes about Bakugou attacking Izuku or even trying to kill him so funny? Like, where's the fun in that? But when Izuku rejected Bakugou's offer, everyone thinks he's the worst person in the world… I've already accepted that the fandom doesn't care about Izuku, they only remember him because of the ships, other than that, they don't care about him.

Because they want to undermine his abuse. They don't want to acknowledge that he is a piece of shit who continues to abuse his victim in public and gets away with it. They don't want to admit that he's another Endeavour.

They don't care about Izuku. Not even the B*kuD*ku shippers care about Izuku. All they care about is Bakugou and that he gets what they believe is best for him.

They acted like Izuku committed a grand sin, an irredeemable act towards Bakugou for rejecting his offer... while ignoring how Bakugou did worse to him for fourteen years. Probably more, let's be honest. He probably continued to treat him like shit during the rest of their U.A. days.

Bakugou fans were more concerned for Bakugou after Izuku lost his quirk, because they don't care about Izuku. I saw someone comment that the reason they feel more bad about Bakugou is that 'he'd go through more without saying a word'.

Izuku went through more. Izuku was bullied since the age of four. He was beaten up before he was five. He was hurt by everyone around him, emotionally and physically, when he was still in pre-school. He learned before he was in U.A. that the world is not fair.

But Bakugou stans choose to ignore this, because if they did acknowledge it, they'd have to deal with the fact that Bakugou was the cause of most of Izuku's pain.

They tell people who hate Bakugou that they're 'stuck in chapter/episode one' without realising that it's everything afterwards that makes him so hateable. It's the fact that he didn't deal with any direct consequences, and that he continues to hurt Izuku even after they've 'made up'.

He threw an iced-over snowball at Izuku's head. He threw a spiky, sharp item at his head which imbedded into Izuku's head. He dragged Izuku out via blackmailing him with OfA only to beat him up instead of just talking things out. He got everyone in 1-A to beat up Izuku instead of just reaching out to him to apologise for something NOBODY knew about and make everything about him.

And more. There are many moments which proved that Bakugou never changed, but people either laugh it off or construe it as '10/10' writing. There are people who ranked Izuku vs Bakugou 2 as the best in the series, because they can't fathom the idea that it was just Bakugou beating Izuku up, then Izuku somehow sharing the blame despite being the victim AGAIN.

They laugh it off and treat it like a joke, because they don't want to deal with what it means if it isn't a joke. They don't want to acknowledge how harmful their favourite is.

In other words, they take the older generation's go-to phrase, "You're too sensitive."

[comfortyart]

Oh my gosh. Love your art.

Would love to see a busted up kacchan holding his arms open in awkward invitation to a suprised and emotional, and also kinda busted up, deku.

Thanks for the feels anon 😩

[dabirdpoo]

Happy birthday Victor!!!

[pjs-everyday]

prototype 😬😬😬 (they all HATE each other lmao)