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"Mastermind" review

Surprised to see this? Same here, as even though it has been a little over a week since I said I needed a break from Helluva Boss canon, I have had a lot to say about the recent Helluva Boss episode that I saw when skimming it the first time and heard since then, as I still personally don’t like it. Luckily I got some free time and after realizing I wouldn’t want to review back to back episodes I’m not interested in again; I thought I at least do Mastermind as I’m not likely going to do Sinsmas due to an upcoming busy schedule and it’s pretty clear how that Octavia centered episode will end but more on that at the end of this review.

This is my longest review yet but hopefully I can make people understand why I personally think this episode could have been better.

Nothing new with the ticking at the disclaimer. Maybe in the S2 finale.

From Stella and later Andrealphus’ comments, it sounds like Stella’s divorce with Stolas got finalized. That would have been nice to go over in an episode, cause how is Octavia dealing with all of this now? What about Hell society, as I feel like royal divorce would be a big topic there. They could have at least added in a joke about how it was popular till Ozzie revealing he loved Fizz made people forget that.

Even Andre’s breathe can make ice and freeze things, causing me to wonder if he has an unnaturally low body temperature as a side effect of his ice powers. You think if someone force fed him hot sauce and spicy foods it would cancel out his ice powers? XD Keep that in mind in the upcoming fight with him writers.

This is what turned me away from the episode when it first came out. We all knew it was only a matter of time before IMP and Stolas got caught going to Earth illegally, yet instead of having build up to this somehow like Andre hiring spies to get this info and evidence, we just have Stella (whose’ total screen time so far in the series likely adds up to less than 6 minutes) just blurts it out and then her more competent, main antagonist worthy brother does all the work after just being given this info. I’ll be going over this throughout the review.

So Andre is still giving Stella those kinds of comments. Still gross but recently Vivziepop loved a comment someone made that theorized Andre is making these kinds of comments because he is trying to hide the fact that he is canonically gay as seen in that pride pic Vivzie posted this pride month. It makes an odd kind of since given goetia society still follow old traditions and with how power hungry Andre is, I think he knows that if he revealed he was gay he would have trouble gaining political power via marriage. I also think it would be funny if later on its revealed that everyone knows he is gay, but they are just playing along to see how far Andre is willing to go with the gag and unknowingly make a fool of himself. Still the fact he is dumb enough to not double check on what it means to be heterosexual is proof enough to me that he his Stella’s brother considering how dumb she is as well XD. Still I think it would have been more fitting if instead of a compliment, Andre says something implying that Stella needs to wise up as her looks are starting to fade. Not only is that proper sibling banter and possible foreshadowing, but it would be hilarious to see how Stella would react after being called old XD.

The Imp talking looks familiar. Isn’t he the OC of a Youtuber? I also love the idea of I.M.P. getting more employees besides the popular Stolas as a secretary idea, as after 2 seasons it would be a great way to mix up character dynamics. If it does happen I hope they get some employees that aren’t Imps or Hellhounds, maybe even succubi (excluding the one in the hiring scene XD) and hire new kinds of hellborn demon race so we can learn more about them, like an aquatic demon.

Is Blitzo referencing how he bankrupted the company last episode? Guess this disproves the theory of the shorts taking place after that episode.

New demon race. They look like grim reapers with a bit of the Dementors from Harry Potter. I do recall Alastor’s prequel comic confirming cops existed in Hell, making me wonder if there is an department run by cops that are sinners instead of Hellborn demons.

This was pointed out by a Youtuber I occasionally watch but the illusion these reaper characters used to when giving I.M.P. their charges use old pics of the crew except for Loona which is the most recent.

While fun the “Imp trying to erase everything and run away” scene does take time away that could have been used for the actual trial. This is what I meant by buildup as the writers should have had one episode end with the cops coming up to arrest I.M.P. and then the next episode starts the trial.

Loona saving a pic of the crew’s first job is cute, reminding us of her growth since then.

Just wanted to point out that the cops are Baphomets. This combined with the fact that most are doctors makes me wonder if they mainly take up jobs that are important to a community, like I bet some are lawyers and fire fighters, though yes I do recall season 1 having Imp firefighters.

That door has the symbols of all the sins. Lucifer’s is showed to be crack making people think it represents his depressed state he was in before season 1 (and likely still has a bit of it after the season) or that he could die one day. I really hope it represents the former as having Lucifer die would be to cliché, though I wouldn’t say no to having him suffer something really bad that forces him to retire as king of Hell and placing a not ready Charlie in charge. I also want to point out Mammon’s symbol. It looks like a centipede when I thought he was supposed to be a spider. I did have this theory of the sins being hybrids of various things so maybe Mammon is a spider/centipede hybrid that didn’t fully transform in his special. More on that later.

Blitzo references the HH pilot by bringing up his IMP commercial about him burning an orphanage. I’m hoping he was just fooling around and that was special effects or something as some people are debating about if that is canon or not.

One thing we can all agree about this episode is that it was awesome that we got to see not only the rest of the sins, but see most of them in the same room. Sad we couldn’t see Lucifer due to legal reasons but it is nice Vivzie was still able to references him with the rubber duck on his throne. I’m hopeful one day Amazon Prime will allow Vivzie to have HH characters in Helluva Boss one day or vice versa. After the leak they should as a way to cheer her up, apologize, or as a way to bring more traffic to Amazon Prime so people can watch Hazbin Hotel.

The remaining sins have interesting designs. Satan’s appearance is good and fitting with his dragon appearance with hints of bull (Bull King anyone?) in my opinion, having lava like veins, and having a punk/delinquent style with a tattoo on his shoulder.

I think he is a bit too tall though, but I only point that out as the sizes of demons have been all over the place from seeing Imps so small they can fit in purses to giant shark demons. Then there is the fact that the sins can alter their size as seen with Bee becoming giant enough that I think she could equal Satan in height, Ozzie taking on a smaller form where he doesn’t have his other heads out, and my recent thought that Mammon didn’t fully change into his demon form in his special. I think it would be funny if Satan was just flexing during the whole trial to look more intimidating and off screen he is about the same size as Ozzie. That or make it so that all the sins can be as tall as Satan (except Lucifer) but they choose certain sizes to feel more comfortable. If this is true this could possibly add more confirmation to my theory of Charlie having various forms.

The design of Belphegor is honestly disappointing. I was kind of hoping she would have a chimera like appearance, with the 3 heads being a sheep, goat, and snake in this case with each head having its own personality. The chimera in myth breathes fire making it more fitting since she has the lit candle. We only see her upper torso and other Baphomets have had snake tails before so maybe she does as well. Also what is she when it comes to the circus theme of the sins, a fortune teller or the odd looking animal cliché?

I was also hoping she would wear a doctor’s robe since most Baphomets have been doctors, and having bags under her eyes implying to be overworked and tired, hence her sleeping during the trial. This does give me the theory that the sloth ring specializes in medical practices because she ordered them to find a cure for her narcolepsy, with no success so far and over time the ring just became focused on medicine. I also wished she had a small role in the case as I feel like she would have great psychic powers like being able to project an astral form so her body can rest but her mind will still be paying attention, and more importantly having the power to read minds or make memories viewable to make sure no one is lying, as this is Hell so they should expect such things.

Leviathan’s design is very interesting. In the past I pictured a male sea serpent who along with being the tallest of the sins instead of HB’s Satan and kind of animalistic, was semi sentient who would talk similar to the Hulk or Transformers Grimlock and while having the title of a sin wouldn’t really have political power as others would take care of the government stuff for him since he wouldn’t understand most of it anyway, and couldn’t do much as he was mostly water bound.

Vivzie’s design is interesting as it plays off Lucifer’s circus theme by having her be a two headed lady, with each head representing a different kind of envy. While she also doesn’t have much screen time or much to do with the story, we do see enough that it has given me some interesting headcanons, one obvious one is her being friends with Bethesda von Eldritch.

Some people have debated on if Leviathan counts as two people or not. I think she would be given she acts like any other cartoon character with multiple heads with each head having their own personality, so I’m going to do that too and I’m going to differentiate the heads based on their color meaning Purple is the eel head while White is the piranha/goldfish head.

We see other royals of Hell like a dark hose (Blitzo’s horse in disguised?) wearing a Bill Cipher charm and a demonized Sneech from the Dr. Seuss book. I also thought I saw one shaped like a canine in a queenly outfit during that scene of Satan flexing his wings before we got a close up of the other sins.

I’ve seen other point this out but I hate how Bee doesn’t do or say anything about getting the muzzle and extra security taken off Loona, as not only are they both Hellhounds (kind of in Bee’s case) but she knows her and I think saying she trust her enough to not fight would be enough for the court to give her a break.

That vulture goetia seems to be a Goetia/Baphomet hybrid given the candles on his head. I wonder if that makes him less royal then Stolas or Andrealphus by comparison. Also the black crystal refence?

Bee and Ozzie noticed Andre’s comment about Stella, and seeing Ozzie smile gives me hope that he and other are indeed just playing along just so Andre can make a fool of himself.

Original storyboard art for this episode showed that other characters like Stella and Fizz were supposed to be in it, and I think that should have been kept in. It would have been really fitting as this episode should have had various characters reappear to give testimony to either defend or make IMP look bad. Stella could lie about things like how she never knew Stolas was giving Blitzo the book until recently, but mainly uses her time to embarrass Stolas like saying he begged for them to spice up their marriage after their anniversary until she caved to shut him up until she saw him bring an Imp. Fizz could have been brought to the stand so Andre could try and get him to convince people Blitzo is a bad person since he was the one to cause his accident. Of course Fizz turns this around by saying the two have made up and that if it wasn’t for Blitzo he and Ozzie wouldn’t have gotten together, giving us a scene where royals are mixed about it as some find it cute while others are disgusted. Fizz could also have a role for when Striker appears as he would reveals he will do anything for money and shows photos and video of him not only being the one to kidnap him but also audio where he says a “bird bitch” payed him to kill Stolas. Course this could go sideways when Andre makes it so that Crimson is to blame for the assassination attempt, but also bring up how he, and thus Ozzie, also knew about Stolas and Blitzo deal and even brings up the Asmodean Crystal Blitzo is wearing the whole episode.

Yogirt is a fun character. I’ve seen people compare him to the concept of a shoulder angel given his appearance but he also reminds me of Jimmy Cricket. I’ve also seen people starting to ship him and Satan which while adorable, I personally like the idea of them being or becoming best friends. We already have 2 sins in relationships with the lower class so I think it would be a nice change for the canon storyline. Besides Satan X Susan would make for a better ship XD.

It is also interesting to see the embodiment of wrath taking his advice on calming down, as this implies that his angers has screwed him before and realizes he needs someone to keep him in check. It shows off screen growth then just being the constantly angry guy.

Vassago is an interesting new character that has been around longer than others thanks to originally being an Overlord, but they never explain who he is specifically as a Goetia. Some say he is a “good natured” kind of being so he could be one of the more compassionate demons, but I mean is he somehow related to Stolas? Given he was able to make a star construct I think he is since Stolas is the only goetia so far with astronomy themed powers. Plus Paimon did imply to have many kids. Where is Paimon anyway? Is he dead at this point?

This was pointed out by YouTuber ClassicMan D (I recommend checking his channel) but Andrealphus plan with Blitzo is indeed really flawed. He made it clear that he wanted to get Stolas in trouble yet he makes the case all about Blitzo I.M.P. and keeps stating that Stolas shouldn’t be involved even though he plays a big part of the charges AND his original plan to gain Stolas' stuff. Now some could say Andre knew Stolas would watch the trial or maybe the sins would go after Stolas next, but that is a BIG gamble and a flaw in his thinking/this episode’s story.

What if Andrealphus and Striker pinned the assassination attempts on Crimson? They could lie about how the Imp crime boss wanted Stolas dead so he could gain the book or power, and knew about this possibilitythrough his son Moxxie. This gives Moxxie a role in the trial and adds another connection between I.M.P. and Stolas as Andre could state that all of this wouldn't have happened if Stolas hadn't given I.M.P. the grimoire in the first place, adding more to his goal of getting rid of Stolas.

We got some more interesting royals like a dark fire person and a guy with a saber tooth skull head and a low tech robot arm compared to Fizz’s arms.

Striker and his new scar. He got lucky everyone seems to be either too dumb or bigoted to notice any connection between him and Andre.

I’m glad Blitzo pointed out he could have rephrased his comment about being able to kill Stolas. I also feel like with his whole gimmick being strength, the idea of an Imp trying to kill a royal would impress Satan or someone in the court.

Finally the other sins speak.

Mammon’s insult to Ozzie and Bee implies that Bee and Vortex’s relationships is seen the same way as Fizz and Ozzie’s. I have seen a video around YouTube about how someone didn’t like how up till now Bee and Vortex by demon society got a pass while Fizz and Ozzie didn’t, so I bet the creator of the video is happy that this clears it out. It does make it a bit odd to me as with Bee being part Hellhound and being the party girl who has likely done a lot of crazy stuff in the past, her dating a Hellhound probably wouldn’t be anything new to royals. Maybe she has learned to tune it out? I think this could lead to an interesting future scene like maybe in the past Ozzie made fun of Bee for doing just that but now that he is in the same boat, he apologizes and the two become friends. It also just adds more to my personal belief that Bee and Vortex should stay together and not have Loona date Vortex.

Ugh not only is seeing Mammon flirt gross, but it seems like the White head of Leviathan is into it! I mean it makes some sense that there would be some connection since Greed and Envy both involve the feeling of wanting something, but still I really hope this is a one episode thing, and I do have some headcanons about Leviathan that could explain what was going on there, one also involves an fun idea for an OC that could be her love interest.

I think Yogirt’s advice is working as I could have seen Satan yelling at the sins to stop, but instead he just suggest voting in a calmy manor. I’m impressed and its part of something I will bring up later.

“insert real life justice system joke" here

Verosika! Now if this episode had been better, she would have made for an interesting witness, as she also knew about Blitzo’s Earth activities. Maybe she would have kept switching sides throughout the trial as she is still hurt by the breakup but by that point they have made some great mending between them. I also would have loved to see a scene of Leviathan being envious of her looks and popularity.

One of Fizz’s’ text says he is ordering sushi and joking says Ozzie can’t stop him. One of my early headcanons for Ozzie was that he is allergic to fish, and I just wanted to point that out as I wonder if he still is but is allowing Fizz to get it cause he loves him. Maybe we learn that he is allergic to a unique kind of fish or can’t stand the smell of it as I think that is what happened in the story I got this info from. If any of the “Ozzie has fish allergies” thing is right, then I like the idea of Leviathan having a few of those fish around in case she/the two ladies needed to deal with Ozzie or for protection against him Batman contingency plan style.

I know I’m not alone when I say that I don’t like how Satan has all the power in the court. Charlie’s story showed that Lucifer didn’t like how Heaven didn’t take his suggestions when making Earth, so when he fell, you think he would make Hell’s government be fair to everyone. Maybe it was for a time but after who knows how long of being depressed, Satan used his absents to take over and change the system. At least HB Satan isn’t 100% a jerk I thought he would be thanks to Yogirt. I think it would have been better if we found out that he was in charged because the trial was mainly about Imps, but if it was about someone else like an aquatic demon or a succubi, Levi or Ozzie would have taken over as each sin is in charge of the main races that live in their rings. Sure this would make a plot hole when Stolas gets involved but I bet they could have worked something to go around that.

Satan confirmed my theory of him making the Imps. This must mean other demon races were created by other sins like Bel created the Baphomets and Leviathan (mostly Purple) creating Ronaldo’s species (as I still think Infestors are a unique case). HOWEVER there are some exceptions, as Hazbin Hotel showed us that Heaven has their own equivalent of Hellhounds I call Heavenhounds, meaning some of their ancestors likely fell alongside Lucifer. They should make this canon as this could prevent the gross idea of Bee being Vortex’s great great X 1000 grandmother.

Again the original storyboard has Stolas with Octavia when watching the TV and leaving to save Blitzo. I think this would have been a good scene as we could have seen a dramatic scene that symbolizes Stolas breaking his promise to be there for Octavia, and Octavia seeing her fear of her father “running away with Blitzo” coming true.

I’m going to bring up something related to Blitzo’s “fighting the rigged system” at the end of review.

Aw man don’t make Loona cry!

Oh crap guy they are going to kill the main character. Seriously this is going to change the entire series, and I don’t think anything will stop it. Are you getting the sarcasm?

Of course they had to include a scene of Blitzo’s face touching Stolas’ butt XD. Same with Stolas explaining what is going on in song.

While it is nice to see Stolas take the blame for the Imp he is still clearly in love with (as seen with his pupils) for the Grimoire, he never does give a reason for why he was allowing Imps to kill humans. Heck there was once a fan theory stating that every soul I.M.P. killed made Stolas stronger through use of his book, so the writers should have stated that as fanservice as I personally think they refence more of the HB fandom later in the episode. I also feel like someone would realize he was lying liking Vassago, Ozzie, and Bee and try and help him. We should have gotten a scene like that. I also don’t see why Stolas doesn’t try and follow it up with proving that Stella was the one trying to assassinate him. I wouldn’t be surprised if Stolas had a power that showed Stella called Striker to kill him during dinner or Striker from “Western Energy” saying his wife wanted him dead but changed her mind. This could have worked with what I said about Bel revealing memories. Maybe Andre “accidently” proves Stolas is right, thus resulting in Stella also being in trouble. That last part comes into play later.

Stolas says he wants to be the master of his fate. S2 did bring up the concept of prophecies possibly being real (again more on that later) so I wonder if that is a refence to defying such things if they are true?

Again betrayed how exactly? This is another reason why this episode needed more time to cook, as they should have added in a line for Satan saying that Stolas should have known better then let Imps kill humans or else it could get all of Hell in trouble with Heaven again.

Yes I know about Vivzie’s response about Satan’s comment about ruling Hell before Lucifer being a lie. While a nice refences to Lucifer and a bit of a relief as this implies that Satan believes he would be a better leader of Hell then Lucifer (maybe having pulled a Starscream in the past) I am also kind of bummed out as this could have meant Satan was involved in that story Charlie read about her father and mother, which implied evil existed before Earth and humanity was made. Viv does seem to go back and forth on things.

Loona called Blitzo dad again.

It was pointed out to me that Stella forces the hug onto Octavia, but I didn’t notice until watching this that Via step backs when Stella starts to get closer, implying that their relationships may have not been great. Course now Octavia doesn’t have a choice as her heart is broken and Stella is going to use Octavia’s state for her benefit.

GOD canon Stella is so boring IT HURTS! I think I’ll make one of my DA goals for 2025 is to try and convince some Stella haters to admit that Viv kind of squandered her potential and that something like my version of her would have made the show more interesting.

I can’t imagine how sad Octavia must feel right now, and sadly things are only going to get worse. Also I apologize in advance as I am going to make 2 sad deviations involving Octavia’s sad state in the future.

Again “insert real life” joke here.

Andre, the ice bird, was able to BURN what I don’t think are strong angelic chains off of Stolas. Does this mean he has other elemental powers but prefers ice? I did read about a demon with weather/elemental powers (even made him Stella and Andre’s father in my Helluva Boss rewrite) but could Andre be based on him in a way? If those were angelic chains then that means Andre must be so evil he can destroy purity/pure holy metal.

I stated earlier that a lot of people are being dumb, which benefits Andrealphus here. I bring this up as I strongly believe that this episode will start an arc for Andrealphus where he believes with the right moves he could become an even bigger ruler of Hell that makes Stolas’ title and royal position look like an internship, and I have an new idea for how I think he will go on doing this.

I totally called Stolas’ punishment happening! Admittedly it also involved Stella losing her status, but that can always happen later thanks to her brother.

By lose everything, that means Stolas no longer has his book. This makes this pic kind of canon now. I do hope that Stolas did something so that only Octavia can use the book to its full potential, or hopefully in the next episode. I mean I don’t think we have to worry about Stella since I don’t think he has any natural magic, but Andre with it is worrisome.

Wait does this mean Stolas lost his pet Venus fly trap, the one he has had since childhood too!!!! Oh god Andre and Stella are going to kill it aren’t they! It’s the Targ from Star Trek: Lower Decks all over again! Can there please be a loophole where he gets to keep it, or Octavia takes care of it despite her feelings for her dad?

I think Andre ripping his fur coat off was a loose refence to a HB fan comic, as there is this comic where after Octavia reveals she is marrying the artist’s OC (who is a nice guy) Stella shrieks with joy that she rips her own shirt off, revealing her bra and chest XD. You should see what Stella does during their wedding XD. This wouldn’t be the first time the writers referenced the fandom, heck later Andre refences “horny jail” to Stolas which is part of another popular Helluva Boss pic on the internet where you see Stolas in a cardboard box labeled horny jail

Those rings that were used to strip Stolas of his powers had symbols related to the sins on it. I think it would make for an interesting arc if Stolas did stuff that made the sins proud of him and as a result they give him some of his power back.

At first I thought Satan was being dumb here thinking Stolas could live for 100 years, but now I think it is possible. Being a demon (especially a goetia) Stolas could have a longer life expectancy then Imps. However now this brings up the sad possibility that if Stolas and Blitzo end up together Stolas could possibly out live him, and we already have to worry about that happening with Fizz and Oz.

Part of me obviously feels bad about Stolas being scared about Octavia living with her mom, but like I said before it was inedible since the few times on scene they were together he mainly chose Blitzo over her. More on this later.

When Mammon is eating, you can see both Leviathan heads being disgusted. Hopefully this means White isn’t into him anymore, if she ever was. Also are people seriously cheering for him gulfing down the food! XD

Well Stolitz fans now Blitzo and Stolas are living in the same place. Your thoughts?

While people are hating on a former royal, Blitzo gets praise. This will be related to something for later. Also that sign with someone covering up the O in Blitzo name XD.

That look on Stolas face. That is the look of a broken person.

Another example of the higher ups being idiots and the episode needing more work, is that they never tell IMP that if they ever try to go on Earth again for any reason outside of being ordered by royals, or continue their business they will face consequences. Again I’m surprised no one pointed out the Asmodean Crystal Blitzo was wearing, let alone connect it to Ozzie and Fizz. Personally it would have been interesting to see IMP have to figure out what they would have to do for a business now.

(Blitzo kisses Stolas) And thus Stolitz fans rejoiced….kind of.

And that was my LOOONG review of Mastermind and why I didn’t like it, though I feel better towards it now then I did last week. Again such an episode was always going to happen, but I think it happened TOO early in this case especially since we have 2 whole seasons after this. Also again giving this episode more time really would have made this better from having proper build up and making it possible so that this episode could have had a lot of returning characters with a role in the trial.

Some people are saying that this episode is going to build up to a upcoming storyline where Blitzo’s actions will start off a chain of events where demons will try and change Hell’s system so Imps and such are treated better. This does indeed sound interesting, and could fit with my idea of Andrealphus wanting more power, though I can’t help but see Hazbin Hotel inspiring such a thing as that is what Charlie is trying to do with sinners. Admittedly in past reviews I might have overexaggerated when I say something in Helluva Boss is similar to Hazbin Hotel, but I know I’m NOT here.

I will admit that I did love seeing the other sins, how this seems to have ended the Stolitz break up arc and starting a friendship arc, AND brings my personal idea of Andrealphis becoming the main antagonist of Helluva Boss one step close to coming true, But still this episode made me have a hard look at the entire season so far, and it made me realized that it has been pretty bad from focusing too much on the Stolitz and their “break up" arc, having episodes with repeating storylines and similar plot points of things from season 1, and things that were just unnecessary or need more time to develop like instead of Crimson forcing Moxxie to marry Chaz he should have tried stealing Stolas’ book from them to commit crimes.

Does this mean I hate the series and the creators? HELL NO! However that’s not going to stop me from pointing out the flaws of something, especially something involving a big plot point. Like I said in previous stuff, I still think the trial should have been about Mammon suing Ozzie over Fizz. We still would have gotten a look at how Hell’s justice system works, and this would have given all the sins development since they would be hearing from two of their own. It would have ended with Ozzie winning but facing some consequences but this would be good foreshadowing as if a sin can face challenge and consequences, then who knows what a group of Imps and a Hellhound will face. I just don’t want Helluva Boss to be another show I will like at first because it started off good, but turns bad because of factors like random changes or drop in quality writing. I also hope Hazbin Hotel doesn’t suffer from this.

There is one more episode left of season 2, the holiday special Sinsmas, which again I won’t/can’t watch due to a busy schedule and needing a break but I think I know what is going to happen, and sadly it will have another sad ending for Stolas and potentially have a big important moment that will effect the rest of the series.

It a demon holiday in Hell and everyone is happy but Stolas as he wants to see Octavia, but can’t as even without the law Stella and Andre obviously aren’t letting him and are starting to manipulate her into hating Stolas. Blitzo, feeling bad decides to break the law again and help Stolas see her, where they also get a second objective to get some of Stolas’ stuff, especially his grimoire. Here they could what Stella and Andre are doing to Octavia and IMP learns Stella was the one who hired Striker to kill Stolas, and eventually we get a fight where we see IMP fight Andre and holding their own, as while Andre is powerful I don’t think he has any fighting experience. We also see Stolas and Stella physically fight, that would be cool and hilarious to see.

The episode ends with Octavia stopping everyone, likely using some powerful raw magic to prevent her uncle from attacking a cuddling Blitzo and Stolas as seen in the S2 trailer. She then rants to her father saying that he never cared about her but only Blitzo, making Stella and Andre happy as their manipulating seems to work, but I think Octavia would also go off on them as well but sadly still trust then then her father. Stolas is heartbroken but Blitzo promises that they will try and save Octavia, which cheers up Stolas and we seem Blitzo and Stolas hang out as friends for the holiday, but imply that they could date next season. I'm hoping for a scene where Loona either makes Octavia realize that if Stolas hadn't saved Blitzo she would have been without a father, saying she sees him as a hero. This combined with Octavia starting to realized her mom and uncle are using her (either by hearing something they said or being warned by Loona/IMP) starts to doubt if she was wrong about her father and starts to care for his Venus flytrap plant.

I also see this episode being a good way to start off the “Andrealphus power seeking” arc, as I recently I had an idea about how he could use Octavia for his gain. Going back to the possibility of prophecies being canon in Helluva Boss, what if in the next episode Andre learns or recalls a prophecy about a powerful female goetia that would bring greatness to Hell, and he believes Octavia is that goetia. I recall an old post from the Helluva Boss writers saying Octavia was born when strange circumstances were happening, like I think an eclipse happened that day. That’s definitely a sign implying that Octavia isnt be a regular goetia. If there is a scene where we see how powerful Octavia is, I could see Andrealphus pull a Emperor Palpatine and tries to control Octavia so she will work for him and advance his own agenda while disguising it as mentoring her/family care.

If you have made it to the end, I thank you as this was a lot of work especially in such a short time, so let me know your thoughts on this review and on the episode itself.

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childotkw · 2 years ago

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YOO... i just sped read chapters 25-39 of CS and I'm absolutely. blown away. i know my last ask was pretty recent but i need to immediately run to your inbox. i don't think this is as long as the previous one but it is pretty lengthy, take ur time to respond :>

first off, rita skeeter gets on my nerves oh my god she is so annoying... i find it so entertaining watching hadrian using jacob for info though. i'm kind of a jacob sympathizer - he did mess up really bad but i do like that addition. i don't expect them to become buddy-buddy though,, LMAO hadrian blackmailing skeeter is also really funny imo

the ball was cool and fun and all, loved the interactions between adalard and hadrian. it was very? relaxing? adalard is probably one of my favorite side characters. hadrian being drugged and then being yanked into riddle's office and then. they almost kissed was absolutely wild. it compares to the 'sleeping in riddle's office' scene. then hadrian's dread when he realized what he did was absolutely hilarious.

THEN hadrian finds out about the order and lily's affiliation with them,,, hadrian meeting sirius was amazing i love sirius he is babygirl. later his interactions with the other members of the order are really cool. he knows them but he doesn't - he only knows them through the lenses and stories of lily's but there's no real connection. i think that's really sad :(( tonks and remus are so cute also. it's been years since I've read the books and i don't remember ever really getting the chemistry between them until i read that small scene you wrote of them !!!!

oh jesus when lily and riddle meet,, bringing her to the place james proposed to her was just downright cruel man. i SWEAR the shock i felt when he took lily.... hadrian realizing like a day after and just GOING off to find her.

i originally thought that hadrian's patronus was a dog?? like sirius dog?? because he said 'good boy' to it and then sirius commented on it and i thought it was a dog. black panther is really cool though !!!!

THEN the scene with the woman and,, i forgot to mention her in my last post but lowkey she is way more intimidating than voldy for some reason. its the mysteriousness or something man,, and how she takes voldy not seriously at all. "little lord" is what really gets me...

the entire ball-doppelganger thing was cool as hell !! i love the dance between hadrian doppelganger and bellatrix . harry finding lily and going back - i felt really bad for tonks with what hadrian said though hadrian is entirely justified to what he said. he doesn't even know them.

honestly i was very very afraid for hadrian when voldy went to severus for the numbing cream and then talked about ... dark mark stuff. hadrian put himself through that - just so that lily could awake from her coma-sleep-whatever.

pleasantly surprised that it was not a dark mark though,, i wonder what effects that thing will have throughout the story. severus' discomfort while watching hadrian and riddle's interactions are hilarious. oh yes hadrian big brain realizing he has some of riddle's blood as well. however. let's get to the big thing

“Are you insane?” He whispered, voice cracking. “I’m me, mum.”

OH MY God that line. i've seen it in another one of your asks before HOWEVER it hits so much harder in context. earlier sirius had reprimanded? scolded? lily for dismissing hadrian because of his age and referencing his own fallout with his mother and it hits so hard when hadrian and lily have their own fallout. .... .

i want to strangle lily,... she has the audacity to say shit like that after hadrian did so much to save her?? and like, she just doesn't even consider the amount of hurt she'd cause by saying that... GJJDHJHSHGAGSDG

anyway, im going to continue reading so have my kudos author-nim !!!! ur fics make me feel so many things

Oh you are flying through the chapters!!

Rita Skeeter is the bane of many peoples' existence I feel 😂 while she only pops up once or twice, I'm glad I managed to get her unique brand of obnoxiousness right.

Jacob's actually a fun character to see the reaction to over time. He started out as someone most were chill with, then the goblet happened and it was all fire and pitchforks, and then slowly over time he's largely now become a tolerated presence. It's genuinely so much fun to see the progression.

And I'm glad you liked the Yule Ball! It was such a fun chapter to write! Adalard got a chance to shine, and of course, The Interaction between Hadrian and Riddle 😂 fond memories

The Order and Lily and Hadrian is such a mess, but the conversations in those early scenes really set things up for future events 😉 and I'm really happy that Tonks/Remus worked for you in CS! I know wolfstar is usually the default ship, but I actually really like Tonks and Remus so I couldn't resist haha

And the kidnapping of Lily...you can't say she wasn't tempting fate there 😂 Hadrian going into mission-mode to rescue her, creating his doppelgänger, invading Riddle manor, snarking with Bellatrix - he was so fun to write hahaha

The Lady is an ongoing mystery in CS - discord has a whole list of potential suspects lmao. I'm holding my cards close to my chest on her though. Her lack of concern over Riddle is such a boss move though - she basically speaks about him like he's a misbehaving toddler 😂

And oof yeah the mark - people were losing their minds when that happened! Hadrian sacrificing his freedom for his mother, and then having her spit in his face...that was brutal. That whole fight, and Hadrian's poor little heart breaking...I felt so bad for the boy.

It's wonderful from a writer's perspective though to hear that the fight between them, and that line in particular, got you good. All the context in that scene, and all the little things that had been building up since the early chapters - it was very very satisfying to write!

Thank you again for sending in your thoughts! It's always a delight to see your username in my inbox, and reading your reactions never gets old!! 🥰🥰🥰🥰💕💕💕💕💕

#flourdove #HP #consuming shadows

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gladiolidiaries · 2 years ago

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sorry i know that discussion must be annoying since it appears all the time but i kinda needed to 'rant' a little. because i actually recently lost my hyperfix because of the lack of content so i was finally able to take a really big step back while still learning about recent things that happened etc and i just realized that i don't understand why most people don't think dnf are dating?

like, ive been in the fandom since 2019 so i know all about the dnf history but i couldn't come up with even one good reason that could explain why most think they aren't dating. and i really insist on GOOD reason because at most i saw people say that they're not dating because dnf is a joke but like. dnf was a joke in 2019 & 2020 and maybe a little part of 2021, that's it. it hasn't really been a joke in 2/3 years

i even tried to compare them to others and lbr if people of opposite genders did kissgate, bedgate, the chain, etc, everyone would say they're dating. and dnf are queer guys so being of the same gender shouldn't change anything but it apparently does

i'm just. idk i had that thought earlier and i'm just still surprised that i really couldn't find a good reason sorry 😭 i don't even know if i'm making sense i'm like

flabbergasted (first time i ever use that word)

i doubted their relationship way more when i actually had an hyperfix but now? now i don't anymore and yet i still have the same infos about them you guys all have here, feels weird tbh (but also i'm finally free)

honestly idk. its funny cause as i said i was into dan and phil years ago and while i was in the fandom i really always had doubts about whether they were together or not, and thats despite an actual leaked video of phil saying he's in love with dan 😭 i was still a doubter just to protect myself i guess. but then when i lost interest i was like wait wtf obviously they're together 😭

maybe it's similar for dnf. as you guys know i'm more of a fwb truther cause it's less painful if it turns out that i was a clown. but january really made me think that there's more going on but i flip flop a lot

#sorry i took over 12 hours to answer this lol

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tavtarnish · 2 years ago

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So I was looking at soap's wiki page and it says that he visited his cousin in the SAS many times and also tried to join under aged a few times, right? Well it doesn't say why, tho. And any normal person would assume that he wanted to join so bad because of his cousin. But im not normal so I got to thinking.well even if he did join just because of that cousin, that doesn't explain why whe tried to join early. Multiple times. So obviously there is atleast another factor in this situation. And we've all established his thing for hating himself, just a bit, and he's definitely not a straight man. And well homosexual and military down exactly sound like a the most delicious martini. And I'm not exactly caught up on Scotland's ally status, nor have I found much info about his family. So what if this was his way of self punishment for being a gay man?

But, El, what if he didn't realize his sexuality until aftet he joined? Or his family was supportive? An excellent question. If it wasn't that maybe it was because he had no direction in life. Perhaps he felt lost. Academics maybe weren't his strong suit, or he burnt out at somepoint, so college (university?) Wasn't an option. Maybe his parents said either higher education or a job, right?(yes I'm heavily projecting onto this poor man, I'm sorry but you also can't stop me) In today's day and age it is becoming increasingly difficult to find a job without a college degree. And jobs like that can always be unstable or underpaid or overworked, understaffed, unnecessarily dangerous, and a multitude of other things. But the military? Well you know what you're signing up for, you really only have to do as your told and no more, and you can do alot of good. Plus he already has a cousin in there.

Or maybe its as simple as his family has/had money issued and the military gives good pay?

Also apparently I left a comment on the latest chapter of I.S.B.T.P.K.F.T.S and I don't remember lol. Also I promise the next part of my favorite moments is coming out. I've been very busy lately. Sorry for the long ask

I've had SO many thoughts about Soap joining the military ESPECIALLY the fact he tried to join at 16 but was refused. You are allowed to join the military at 16 with parental consent, so I've come to the conclusion that his parents wouldn't like the fact that he wanted to be in the military - this tracks considering many Scots who see them self separate from Brits aren't typically the biggest fans of joining UK collective things like the military (this is coming from my Irish bg so it could be different).

As to why he wanted to join, I think there are multiple reasons, but if his queerness is a reason I would think its less to do with punishing himself (though sometimes it may feel like a punishment being around Ghost when Soap wants him so badly) and more to do with him possibly avoiding telling his family. Scotland as a whole recently is quite up there in ally status but that 1) doesn't reflect how the 2000's/2010's were 2) doesn't mean everyone is an ally ofc. Anyway, the MacTavishes aren't homophobic in any regard but that doesn't mean Soap knows that or isn't scared (either bc he's never seen his family react to queer people irl or, if he has, he'll think he'll be an exception).

Other causes likely are due to his school career: he was a footballer, but I don't think he ever tried to go pro, and in ISBTPKFTS the backstory I've given him wouldn't allow him to (W.C status and home life). And you make a great point with burnout - if we're sticking to real rules of the army, he wouldn't be able to be medicated or have lesson plan adjustments for his ADHD if he's diagnosed (i think I read that somewhere) so he's either not diagnosed or he never had accommodations so burnout is very likely. Uni, of course, would seem like a horrible thing for him, even if he was like many ppl who go to uni for the experience or bc of the job market.

But the idea that his parents expecting him to get a job or go to uni is very real (dw I'm also projecting here) and the monotonous work/life balance sounded like hell. Knowing his cousin's life in the army definitely planted the seed, and I think (in the fic at least) he'd visit his cousin to get some free time away from home but it ends up convincing him of what he wanted to do with his life. Like you said, you know what you sign up for with the army. He probably didn't expect the RSD to follow him especially if he isn't diagnosed, or if he's not very clued up on that part of his ADHD,hence why he can't rationalise his own feelings when they start to overwhelm him

Also dont be sorry and there's no rush I love that you even want to make those posts in the first place!! Thank you

#tav answers things #isbtpkfts stuff #sorry for any misakes / rambling sentences

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lovinglifewithlight · 4 months ago

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No resolution to current relationship with a fairy friend I, for years now, have considered a best friend. Its been painful to seperate after so long.

After a final outburst of emotion, during a very energetically charged and trying time in which I honestly could have use her support. (This post for info on my episode:)

Instead I ended up being the one to apologize and explain, as I had admittedly lost my temper. But what for? After answering as honestly as I could, she was unable to explain how this had affected for or what she was going though at all. I never have heard how she felt or what her story was. I'm completely unaware of how to reconnect and unsure of the reasoning I have for doing so. As I now have strong reason for questioning what the relationship was and how it impacted me, both negatively and positively.

I don't believe they will ever read this so I'm going write as if that is true even though it's public technically. If they do they probably need the answers but are too afraid to ask for them in person. Either way, I deserve a space of my own to e press myself free of people I know and the social pressures on other social sites that are more connected. This space isn't for attention its for processing. It's helped me in the past to be able to reflect on what I felt more closely in moments in which I was feeling or thinking.

What made me choose and realize the relation was ending and that I should let go, and move on without regret?

How negatively I've been feeling about it. How easily anxious and traumatizing it is to feel confused and bamboozled, or manipulated. To realize through speaking with others how irregular the relation standards are, be that this person claims they are diagnosed with schizophrenia. Which until recently I didn't know much about. Now I realize that much of our friendship base opposes what we should be doing if she truly has this disorder. I do still have major doubts abouts the validity of that however. Its also just as possible in my reality that she has a different disorder or none at all. It's not for me to judge but it does make a difference as to how those disorders have different needs, requirements and symptoms. My aim was to learn more about them, to better support her. But without the willingness to speak openly, it's impossible to know those things, let alone trust in its validity. Ive met many people now who falsely claimed to have an issue (mental or otherwise) or crisis, simply to find that such an event or issue never existed and was falsely created via theatric drama to cause massive amounts of attentions and at a times resources. Unfortunate she would not be the first to be unable to admit their story honestly, and choose to instead ask me to turn away or refuse to speak again all together. It's complicatedd this time with a know unwillingness to say goodbye to anyone. So its another set up for me, to have to walk away when I don't really want to do so.

Id much rather sit it out, work it out, be close. However I doubt that is the choice she has made ar this point. Its been about 4 months since she has responded to messages. All of which I've felt lost and confused about. No more though, thats long enough to continue my own negative self talk and blame when if I'm honest with myself: the only thing I can think of to do are desperate. If she doesn't want to or thinks it's not what will benefit her, then this friendship has nothing more to do.

We were never able to talk about spirituality, business or even music openly. Let alone talk about our story. So, I am moving on. Letting go and on my end, saying and accepting goodbye. I sat with someone and asked them to hold space so that I could chose closure for myself. I feel better about this now. And I feel that this is the beat decision for me, and probably for her also. Especially if she's unable to come clear with herself about her feelings. I'll never really know unless she's able to do that. Thats gotta just be okay with me, there's no use over thinking, wondering or even feeling about it. I feel its better to accept my reality as it is now, without her in it.

Update: I addressed a hand written letter with items I needed to return to her. Also a personal signal of my moving on. I was very hurt when she decided to message me on Facebook of all things... just to set boundaries... again with boundaries she hasn't learned to respect or follow herself. Choosing instead to reveal what I already knew and nothing more. It hurt incredibly. She didn't acknowledge 😕 anything at all that would matter, no explanation, just a cut off. I impulsively messaged back and blocked her. I have since removed the message but I don't think she has any idea how harshly she has judged me. The lack of support, encouragement, and belief in me is notable. She has caused more doubt in me than I even knew I had. After closure and letting go, I have realized how strongly her closing down light language was. As well as how she wrote everything about her vision and made all business decisions with out consultation. I wanted so badly to share, to contribute more and was not invited to do so.

We weren't able to openly communicate. Especially spiritually... she said often that I was judging her but I feel that the judgement was coming from her. I was not openly allowed to speak about or use the name of God, pray, or speak about abrahamic concepts or mysticism at all. However I supported her rituals, protection and didn't question her more pegan interest, esp on alters or doeties. Howver o didn't not receive that same support unless it was a common interest. It hurt that many times I'd introduce her to something and she'd either dismiss it or claim ownership over the topic after a few months... (ie: Light language and twin flame in which she never believed me yet she has had i think three different people she believed was her tf....) And it hurt that she would then no longer be able to share much about it, as if it felt insulting or rude for me to share what I knew... often she would change the topic when I was excited, or passionate about a subject... She told me once after a sound bath that "other peoples beliefs don't enter her, it's like she lives in her own world" which after what I was sharing made me feel like she was saying "I don't belief you", "I don't care about your belief or opinion, only my own" and that "the only spirtual topics that matter to me are ones I already know about so that I can educate you on them". It really hurt the way she said it, it really made me feel like she actually didn't care about what I thought and was the first time I really began to question whether she had the capacity to share, listen or communicate effectively with others enough to run a spirtual business after all. Let alone friendships.

After the episode mentioned in first paragraph (my episode), about a month later my sister (special needs, has I.D.) stayed with me and was reigned by the third serious psychotic episode lasting weeks. I highly suspect (and we got her into counseling asap when mom returned) that she will have a diagnosis for schizophrenia, or somewhere on the spectrum among others (including my other sister who's a counsoler). So, tbh, I learned a lot about this. My friend doesn't know about this as she was not returning my messages for about 3 months most recently. Luckily meds have helped, they had to increase what she was already on since last episode by x3. And those are now being lowered slowly as she has gotten more stable again.

I know now that my friends social behaviors such as changing topics and inability to express her story well, this may or may not be a symptom of her diagnosis but I wasn't able to ask... and therefore - I am left with much hurt and confusion. Walking away again, for the betterment of myself and others without regret. I feel I have done all that I could to resolve issues that required open and honest communication to retain the friendship. She was unable to do that. Theres nothing more I can think of other than this, and to continue to offer prayers, giving it over to source.

I can't help but feel that our spirituality is not compatible at this time.

Either she is disturbed by her scitzophrenia, by continued belief in Patrick regularly in which nearly all members in her life are required to support. Which goes against the recommendations of supporting family and friend roles, which is typically not to support the delusion but to ground into reality.

Or she does not have this disorder. In which conversations could be entertained about our spirituality openly. However whatever reasons she has for provoking the belief in the disorder should cease. I have never heard any family member mention the disorder, not once even when her mom called concerned through out the years. I never once saw her take medicines, even on camping and over nights. From my understanding for most with this disorder it is persistent without meds, and therefore would be noticeable trends with and without meds. Ive never seen her hallucinate. Ive only been able to recently identify social and negative symptoms. It is then difficult for me to belief that she is indeed one of the only (very rare) cases of child-pychiz before age of 16, even more rare due to her female gender. The fact that she states its from drug use before she had Michael (15) (which is kind of possible). And recentl did meth out of the blue is a massive red flag.

If she didn't have this disorder at all and was never lying about it (neither is the actual case irl):

I would call out the fact: there's no excuse for drug use considering her teenage trangressions.

Her spirtual path as a "shaman" or wise woman would usually insist on a life based in purity and self resepct; if she was serious about these trainings she would consider not dating and having sex often with insurable and impure/unspirtual beings. The same is true for abusive substances, including alcohol.

Her work with the fae may have spirtual negative impacts she is unaware of: everything has a cost. I don't condone spell work, especially that which is done with the help of lower, demonic, djinn or chaos.

I find speaking with the dead to be rude and usually negative. Unless you are born into spirtual communication and have family ties to ghosts and spirts, I would heavily resist this type of communication. Therefore continuing attachment to Pat will not serve your or his souls. It is more likely from what I have witnessed that she has an EBS that is presenting as Pat from her own memories. I have yet to see anything that would prove it was Pat or Pat's ghosts. However the evidence for an EBS was strong including cold Temps, negative comments, ideas and manipulation.

I feel I cannot voice these openly due to her belief/front of her disorder. As me yelling her these things may increase her levels of paranoia, stress and spirtual "foundations".

Therefore, I decided not to discuss them until after I learned more about her, her disorder, and confronted the doubts I had about it. Since we were unable to do that. I feel that it was the right thing to keep these opinions to myself. I was concerned for her because of her actions and personal-choice beliefs and paradigms. Rather than judging/having issue with any aspect of her spirituality which I am very supportive of in general.

I found that her breaking her own boundaries so often changing them, is what I found the most difficult part of being friends with this person for so long. It is what cause confusion and doubt, and eventually eroded trust.

While being unable to handle, hear or accept others boundaries let alone respect them. She often finds herself in difficult situations, moving her own boundary lines depending on the person and circumstance, rather than a place of will power and personal conviction. So when I say in this post, I kept my opinions of spiritual things like ghosts to myself, rather than enforcing them on someone. However, I should be able to express without upsetting her than I am not supportive of the ghost. I didn't though, because I am concerned for her mental health. What excuse could she have for not discussing things with me though? The only answer I know of is: Fear.

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celestialvexation-arch · 1 year ago

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hi this is the anon before who said their only criticism for tmc was the timeline, but after al3x’s recent twitter qna i suddenly have a few others things i want to say about this series that i’m not sure where to share so i’m going to dump it in your inbox if that’s ok <3

anyway first things first i just want to say i love tmc, it’s one of my favorite analog horror series, i love the characters and the aesthetic, i love getting on discord to watch the newest videos with my friends, but even as my favorite series i’m still willing to criticism it (excluding the timeline thats already a mess).

and lately i’ve been thinking about it after rewatching the latest video a few times and seeing other content creators react to it, i’ve just now realized that the series… doesn’t scare me anymore? maybe its because i’ve been watching it for a while, but probably not because the old videos still ruin my insomnia after i watch them tgouivrfi but aside from that ever since vol4 was released i just haven’t gotten scared by anything presented in the new videos at least once.

like the latest video didn’t give any horror vibes for me especially when adam namedropped god like ok cool (although i did love the sarah+evelin interactions we were given and hope there’ll be more of that duo), and the diary thing just idk its interesting but meh. this is just my opinion tho i hope no one attacks me for it

then i saw al3x say in his qna that vol1 was his least favorite video overall and tbh that… kinda makes me sad? because i still love that video since it still frightens me to this day, and seeing him not like it and make a new version that had some good parts removed + make it less scary just ehh this series really isn’t as frightening to me as it used to be…

its probably because of everything that’s gone with crewdela, with gab3 being fired and the community being infested with minors who want to sanitize horror (and a certain person in the crew who shall not be named) so this is just the end result…

but at the end of the day this is al3x’s series and he’s free to do what he wants with it and i will be seated for vol5, its still an interesting series to watch at the end of the day but just not as scary for me.

anyway sorry for traumadumping LOL /j

ohyah, you're free to info dump w/e thoughts you got! :3

i was honestly in the same boat as you, where tmc used to be my top series of all time cause of the usage of religion here, instead of the cookie cutter aesthetic of haunted animatronics or aliens invading the earth. while rlly not scary to me overall, the unsettling nature behind was enough to spook me!

however, as you've mentioned, it just stopped being scary overall when not only god was namedropped like that but....the intrigue around the series was just gone when "gabriel" revealed who he rlly is after all this time. the reveal happened way too soon, and using the usual "THE DEVIL WAS BEHIND IT ALLLLL" is just eh :/ could have made it where it could have been something else puppeting the body of the archangel gabriel??

and tbh, with how much lore and attention is given to emo fuck ( adam lmao ) here, it's feeling more and more like a damn soap drama that your grandparents would watch lmao nothing rlly horrifying, unsettling, or even violating in the sense that it's supposed to be intimate given the core concept that used to be present in early vids ( there's a reason why intimacy and religion tends to go hand in hand )

all the biblical horror flies out the window when we're seemingly supposed to care about adam here -- i honestly don't give a shit about the guy atp lmao i was here to watch some actual frightening shit, not...this

yeah, alex has mentioned several times that vol 1 wasn't his fave but goddamn, did he just...rlly made the scare factor and nostalgic elements even worse. nothing there to grasp you except "LOOK! THE ANIMATION IMPROVED!! :OOO"

those are my thoughts there lmao x3

#Anonymous #forever salty that this series just got *so sanitized*#religious horror is such a good concept #that when you fuck it up or just drop it entirely; it's like ''well what's even the point for caring?'' :/

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restricted-on-13th · 7 months ago

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I actually agree with this post, not villainizing a child here but with the recent info from book of bill, it's more understandable why the twins acted that way in the end of the 2nd season.

Mabel, as a child, was understandly codependent on Dipper with their parents fighting (while she doesn't know about this, it doesn't really mean she can't feel it. Don't underestimate a child's sense of other's emotions, especially their family)

She probably felt like hey, I think there's something going on and it feels bad but I'll ignore it cause all I need to do is be happy and jolly to help bring smiles to their faces.

So she tries to compensate for it by doing things like dragging dipper to something so that they could hang out (for her but for dipper, it would just be humouring her, not actually choosing what he wants to do) I'm not saying this for all the episodes but it just crops up whenever I watch Gravity Falls that I feel like Mabel chooses more of what they do than Dipper gets to. I know that Mabel just wants to be good and help by doing those but its how a child thinks and I can't fault her for that.

It's a bit obnoxious, yes, but it's how a child thinks, they're obnoxious and naive. Dipper isn't excused from this too, he's sometimes portrayed naive in some episodes (like with Ford) but its so miniscule that remembering that yes, this kid that follows and solves paranormal cases, also seeks out parental figures in other people (the stans: even though, from an objective standpoint, I don't think being parental is in their lane, Uncles? Yes but parents? No)

Ford's just came out of a divorce (lmao but seriously, no person that just came out abuse should go be a parent, for the sake of their mental health and of their child) plus Ford is too out of touch with other people (man just came out of an portal, he needs time) while Stanley have been swimming in guilt, despair and depression trying to get back his twin (also from the post at the top (book of bill excerpt on dipper's hygiene)

Now getting back to Dipper and Mabel, Dipper is always portrayed as a nervous (wendy) but surprisingly steadfast pre teen in the face of weird stuff in gravity falls. He's always portrayed as a mature kid and a bit of a motherhen to Mabel (I can understand why Mabel imagined Dippy Fresh, cause Dipper is sometimes too much of a Motherhen, but it still puts me off for how different Dippy Fresh is from Dipper and its weird cause, is that how she wants Dipper to act? Cool and not a nerd? Cause, that just really puts me off even though I understand that Dipper can sometimes neglecting talking or even noticing others by being too invested in the Journal)

....... (Dipper hates Dippy Fresh, its on the wiki page of gravity falls, I can see how 'Dippy Fresh' as a whole offends him, even I am)

Is it a bit annoying cause he's a Motherhen sometimes? Yes but ever since Book of Bill gave a hint about their family situation, it's much more understandable now. He's mature cause he needs to be (not only for himself but Mabel) cause he realizes the situation and is trying to keep a part of his life together by taking a parental role. When he found the Journal and those mysteries came for him, Mabel and Stan, he found a guide in some unknown Author in the Journal that slowly, to that point of how much that Journal saved them, he saw the Author as an idol. Then he found out about Ford and just latched onto him, finding a parental figure in him through the Journal that indirectly helped Dipper but Dipper doesn't realize that he idolises (seeks a parent) in The Author, not the human Ford.

Of course, they got to know each other (Ford being put off by the fanboying yet flattered at the same time) and Dipper slowly learned to connect those views he has on the Author and Ford and just realising that yeah, this is a man, a man that while I admire, is also My Cool Uncle. (I still standby my notion that Ford can't be a parent for Dipper, it would be damaging for the two of them)

I'm glad though that Dipper found someone's who would at least indulge in one of his interest cause, look, in most of the episodes, we never get a clear glimpse of what Dipper's interest is. Like we know so much about Mabel, her love for boys, scrapbook, her talents and artistic skills, sweaters and puppets! But Dipper? None. He's only a nerd with a journal thats goes searching for the paranormal and a twin sister, nothing explicitly stated about him and we'd only find out about some of his interest in context clues.

Like seriously, the clone episode, we only found out Dipper can play instruments (with S cause it's 2: a banjo and another I forgot the name of) plus the Mason fact? Knowing that other characters (Stanley? Really, come on man) don't even know Dipper's real name just....it kind of drives home how Dipper is sometimes brushed off when he brings up his interest that for 2 entire seasons, no one even knew "Dipper" was a nickname.

When I look at the Gravity Falls Bible, it always suprise me that some facts about Dipper were shown (some are context clues, sometimes not even explicitly stated or shown) and it sometimes comes up to me that, do the characters even know that tid bit of fact about Dipper?

I don't know about you but I just feel bad for Dipper, not only for taking the part of mature parental twin but also for how much of his interest is brushed off since he's just "being nerdy" instead of a kid just wanting to discuss and share what he likes.

Looking back the ending of Gravity Falls while thinking about endings of other series like Amphibia and The Ghost and Molly Mcgee, Weirdmageddon has a message that is underwhelming when it comes to Dipper and Mabel's relationship and Mabel's potrayal in the show.

This isn't about Mabel getting tricked by Bill. She is a 12-13 years old that in that context she was feeling really bad and not thinking well what she was doing. That isn't relevant to the topic at hand and honestly it isn't a problem she did that, it does makes sense in the episode it happened.

What i have an issue is how the narrative makes Dipper feel bad about considering staying studying with Stanford. This is something that Dipper was interested in and he was very fascinated by anything that was paranormal related. Stanford himself told Dipper he had a lot of potential and the kid was digging into it.

Mabel lashing out and not liking the idea of Dipper staying with Stanford is understandable in the episode Dipper and Mabel vs. the Future. She doesn't seem to have much friends back in her home and her parents are implied to not be the best. She gets scared of Dipper leaving, that's a reasonable fear for a kid to have.

However, as i mentioned before, Dipper is made feel bad about considering choosing something he wants to do. It isn't Mabel who has to learn that things change and sometimes this brings things we don't like. She doesn't exactly consider what Dipper wants for himself, she mainly cares about how ¨she is going to be alone¨ and making her brother feel selfish for choosing his own path or do something that could make him happy.

Yes, she learns that things can't stay the same forever and they are growing up, that itself is a pretty good development for her and overall a good message to teach.

Yet her being codependent on Dipper doesn't get brought up nor addressed, in fact the series seems to praise this behavior of hers. In how Dipper has to do what she wants if not he is a bad brother. Mabel's clinginess and controlling behaviour to an extent isn't called out, which that itself is a problem.

Small: I want to add an extra point here that Mabel does have a short scene near the end of the episode that she tells Dipper that she won't get in his way if he wants to stay with Stanford and she was ¨acting nuts¨ in the dream bubble. This is good for her but it does still feel in part that her issues weren't fully acknowledged and it doesn't help she didn't say until after Dipper told her that he was going to stay with her and not be with Stanford, which is rather questionable in my opinion.

In contrast in Amphibia, Marcy Wu has a similar arc about change. The series explores how she can take her escapism too far and how she can be very selfish in plenty of ways, something that is potrayed as an aspect she has to learn from and realize that it isn't healthy.

Her being too codependent on Anne and Sasha and their overall friendship is potrayed as toxic and the series explores this relationship a lot, having the girls grow over time and think about different aspects they have to work on.

In ¨True Colors¨ it is revealed that Marcy Wu learned about the Calamity Box the same day she got told by her parents that they were moving away. Very afraid of having to leave her friends behind and having to be alone in a new city, she found the Calamity Box and told Sasha and Anne about it. Worth of mentioning she didn't know if it would work but it was a desperate act of her just to not having to move away from her friends yet.

When Sasha and Anne find out about this they are, not surprisingly, very pissed and push from Marcy away for a moment, making Marcy realize her mistake and eventually apologizes for what she did.

In ¨All In¨ Marcy finally comes to terms with how she can't force Anne and Sasha to be the way she wants them to be and that her codependency on them isn't a good thing. She realizes that has to move away to her new home at some point, that things change but that doesn't mean the three of them have to stop being friends.

As you can see, there is a clear difference between how Mabel Pines and Marcy Wu’s characters and flaws are potrayed in the narrative. While Gravity Falls makes Mabel’s codependency and controlling behaviour to be something acceptable and that Dipper should conform to, Amphibia does the complete opposite and presents Marcy Wu’s actions as flaws she has and that can hurt other people, including her friends. She is the one that has to make a change and understand she has to work on herself if she wants to have new friends and keep these relationships as times moves on.

Since we are on topic, one thing that really bothered me is how Mabel created a version of Dipper that is ¨cool¨ and says yes and goes along with everything she wants to do. (Weirdmageddon Part 2)

This has… interesting implications of how Mabel believes that relationships should work, or at least with her brother twin Dipper. A lot has to do with how she and Dipper have very different personalities and she maybe wishes that he was more like her, but expecting someone else to say ¨yes¨ to everything you want is a toxic mentality to have. And the episode itself doesn’t address this enough, it doesn’t bring up to Mabel she can’t expect people to work like this and she should try thinking more about what others wants.

Lets talk about The Ghost and Molly Mcgee. In this series Molly Mcgee often has episodes where she has to learn certain lessons. One of them she learns over time is that often she has to give up control and let what others want to do instead.

A good example of this is ¨Ready, Set, Snow!¨ in which she is constanly trying to make Libby and Scratch to go and play outside in the snow with her without considering they would rather stay inside and sit near the fire for the moment. She spends most of the episode trying to find ways to make them go outside until she gets angry and goes out on her own. She has… quite of a mental breakdown in a sequence song. Scratch goes to check on her but he tells to her that she can’t do always what she wants and what it is important is for her to be spending time with her friends. Molly realizes she was wrong, goes back to the house and she apologizes for how she acted.

Molly has quite a lot of episodes like this, and all this becomes important in the series finale ¨The End¨ when she sees that Scratch has to go back to be Todd even if that means forgetting the memories he got as a ghost, her included. She tells Scratch that she is going to miss him a lot but she knows that forcing Scratch to stay wouldn’t be right. She encourages Scratch to go and ¨live his life¨ because she cares about Scratch being happy.

Similar to Marcy Wu, Molly learns that she can’t force people to do what she wants and she has to let them choose for themselves. She knows that encouraging Scratch to do what he always wanted to do as human is the right thing to do, even if it means saying goodbye to him.

I do understand the idea that Gravity Falls was doing at with something among the lines of ¨Dipper and Mabel not repeating the same mistakes that their uncles did¨ but that doesn’t mean Dipper has to give up his dreams at expense of what Mabel wants. As Dipper said in VS The Future episode: he can still visit and they can still talk to each other. They don’t have to fall apart the same way Standford and Stan did. Just like in Amphibia, if Marcy still was able to remain friends with Anne and Sasha over the years, the same can be applied to Dipper and Mabel as siblings.

If not, it could be rewritten in a way that makes Dipper reconsider that he would like to wait a few years before joining Stanford in his adventures. That he is still a kid and wants to spend a while longer figuring himself out and be with Mabel before making a decision. That way it feels more like a decision he wants to do for himself and goes along with his character arc that he doesn’t have to rush to grow up.

As for Mabel, she has a lot of growing up to do. She has to learn overtime that Dipper is his own person and he can take is own path. That if she wants to have friends or have in general healthy relationships with others, she can’t make it always about herself and people have their own needs as well. She would have to work on her codependency and clinginess she has on others, specially her own brother. This would help her with being a more mature capable individual when she grows up.

This post on itself isn’t me hating on Mabel’s character since she has moments she can be good and i feel a lot of her behaviour comes from not being taught properly and being a teenager. The problem is that the series doesn’t address this behaviour enough and, as result, it comes off as the series giving an unintentional underwhelming message of potraying Mabel’s issues as something that should be acceptable and not her having a dynamic with Dipper that comes off as toxic. It is important to understand to learn to support others and not always make things about ourselves. That sometimes relationships change and we can’t force people to be in a specific way.

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bonesblubs · 3 years ago

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hey there c: I was going through your art and I realized, specially with your latest WWX post (!!! which I love with my heart and soul btw) that I really really love the way you draw expressions and angle the head in general? like, your expressions are so in point and they literally make you feel the emotion hfkdbf if I may ask, do you have any tips or advice on how to get better with expressions and head angling? ;-; or like, how do you approach it? specially the head angling… totally cool if you don’t feel comfy about it tho!! hope you’re doing great!! c:

(ps. I recently became your patreon and I’m in love!! keep up the amazing work!! ^-^ I’m so happy to be able to support you!!)

Oh no by all means, I’m happy to attempt to explain!!! So this question in particular is pretty hard to answer for me, cause a lot of it IS just doing it a lot and experimenting with different angles and expressions!!

When I would get stuck, I often practiced from reference photos I took of myself or online- especially odd ones- and just did a bunch of these. An exercise I found particularly useful was dividing your canvas into 4 sections- draw a single image in 5 minutes in one, draw the same image in 1 minute in another, then 30 seconds, then 10 seconds. This helps to both loosen you up and also forces you to determine what is most essential about the image and distill it to its base features.

I sketch head angles and expressions pretty loose, so that the personality isn’t lost in the details. Once the base expression is down, I can refine it and make it look good!

Here's sort of how I personally go about constructing a face and come up with angles-don't forget that the angle that you're choosing to depict the expression also adds visual info! I like to think of the head as a 3-D object that I can turn around wherever- the nose sort of acts as our compass. I use it to home in on the other features!

I hoped that helps, happy to clarify if needed!!

#ask box #bones rants #thank you for your support!!!#sorry im not great at explaining- it is a lot of observation and practice!!#have fun with them!!#this is a long one boys #it wouldnt let me put the images together

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tunapesto · 3 years ago

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meta/dump about how much i love deltarune and its friendships just cause why the hell not. copy pasted from discord with some fixes in grammar/formatting but eng is still not my first language so be wary. i wanted to post it here because i think it sums up a lot of my thoughts :)

you know ive had a realization recently due to personal events etc etc and like. i keep thinking about "you can't choose who you are in this world" and how much it connects to the theme of being a teen... that whole vessel thing.

I know I know it's supposed to be an intro to how the player is involved in the story but it reminds me so much of being a teen and trying to change yourself and imagining who you are ideally, but you're still you.

You can't choose who you are, you're just you.

the main cast is a bunch of teens with a bunch of issues regarding family or lack thereof, some unhealthy coping mechanisms and how you act around people that happen When You're A Teen

susie being seen as scary and mean, when she’s everything but that, decides to just accept what people think. act tough so they cant do shit to her. she's scared of being hurt and being vulnerable so she makes sure not to show that.

ralsei has been under pressure to live up to the prophecy best he can all his life, and given that he’s been all alone all his life, he just doesn’t want them to be disappointed. hes so scared of deviating from being the "good person of the group" that any act of selfishness or being rude is practically a foreign thought for him. he even has to learn how to be comfortable with these things.

kris tries to be edgy and all that sometimes bc they like joking around but really they're very meek and soft inside. They're a bit introverted but once you get to know them, they're a solid friend and they aren't afraid to stand up for you and they don't want to step over people's boundaries because that's their friend.

We don't have much info on how kris feels over their parents' divorce but it's probably not good. asriel going away, them probably being a bit distant with noelle ever since dess, and the awkward relationship they have with both parents because the toriel just refuses to be in the same room as asgore anymore. they probably feel like after that divorce, and how everyone got a bit more busy, they don't feel like their own family knows them very well. except for asriel at least but hes still really busy.

And then there's Noelle. the holiday family has all sorts of vague fucked up shit but the most interesting thing to me is dess. she was her guardian, her best friend practically, she defended noelle and looked out for her and even though they all went out in the woods being scared shitless, noelle would still be comforted by her big sis who was there for her. and now she isn't. that sudden loss flipped the balance in the family and, you'd understand, a missing child would not do any good for any of the family members. noelle finds comfort in scary things like a memorium of dess and how she felt about her. she finds them nostalgic, and even sweet, as long as there is someone there. it even plays to how she interacts with people.

ever since dess' loss, carol (noelle’s mom) probably worked her ass off to find her, and after a few years of trying to find her missing daughter, then giving up, deciding to just bury herself in work to forget. there was a lot of things that needed to be done about the town anyway. rudy, like the story, lead the pack of reindeers in the night with a brightly lit red nose. he was the light of the family. kept some of the balance with lighthearted humor, banter and all stuff dad-like. but then he got sick. and then it was noelle and her mom all alone. all that stress probably sucked a lot of emotion from carol to actually properly look out for her child in a caring way and how she's always so busy.. and then noelle is alone again. sometimes she stays over at catti's, shes a close friend, and over the years theyve probably considered her as part of their family.

so all these teens, going through all these problems, they meet each other. they interact, they grow, they become friends. my point is that deltarune as a story has friendship and coming of age as one of its cores and its so beautiful. the cast learns how to make friends, to be vulnerable with one another, to let their guards down and just hang out. they have their first crushes, they find out a few things about themselves, and sort out some of their own issues too.

obviously deltarune isn't finished so this can all be thrown in the gutter and I don't want to be sappy but i truly truly appreciate deltarune as a game and as a story, it's just so personal to me over the past few months and it's so fun to analyze all these characters and explore their pasts and relationships, and how much I relate to them.

like.... take the fun gang, for example. including lancer here. they all learn or gain something from each other in a sense, y'know? They're a nice group of friends. susie and lancer are just having fun being themselves, and lancer learns how to stand up for his friends. he wants to help them so he attacks his own dad, which he himself wanted to protect, and then gathers all citizens of the town so he can help them. susie decides not to fight because she doesnt want to hurt her friend because she cares. then she puts her full trust in kris to do the right thing. she does not fight until the king prompted them to.

susie and kris. they start off as cold as can be, but it seems like kris wanted to be friends with susie at some point before dr took place or at least just didn't think of her as a bad person. and then, at the king fight, where the king tricks them all and hurts them badly. the soul has no control in this cutscene. and yet, despite being hurt, they defend susie. They stood up and shielded her from the attack. when the king takes kris to finish them off, susie pays the favor in turn and calls them her friend. that cutscene was just fucking glorious man.

and then we have susie and ralsei. again, they start off on different ends but at the fight... susie remembers ralsei's pacify spell. and of course she did. in dr chapter 2, where their friendship really shines, susie thinks ralsei is really fucking cool. aka his healing spell. And she took the opportunity to hang out with ralsei on her own and asked about how healing spells worked and they ate cotton candy together!!! ... susie teaches ralsei how to banter. how sarcasm works and all that. ralsei's sarcasm isnt exactly very top tier or comedic, but it's genuine, and thats what ralsei is. ultimateheal isnt the most 'helpful' at this moment in time but as chapters keep going and their bond grows stronger, that spell probably grows stronger too, because that was how she learned that spell in the first place. And of course why the hell would susie pass on the opportunity to improve this spell. She's Susie, after all!

im mainly talking about susie's friendships here btw bcoz to me she's the very heart of the group. she's a very wonderful and multifaceted character with many traits and how she joshes with other characters it just.. meshes so well. she's very likeable and fun. she's the powerhouse, the comedic relief sometimes, and when needed, she can be very mature and caring. she's the core of all these friendships and its very sweet. I wish I could talk about other relationships here but like my brain juice is gone. also some friendships like kris n ralsei, ralsei n lancer, aren't particularly very fleshed out yet. noelle and kris, i think, deserve their own essay. noelle and ralsei haven't interacted much lol. i really do look forward to the upcoming chapters of this game bc i adore it with all my heart.

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miscmonstro · 2 years ago

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The Uno Reverse Adoption Saga Comments Q&A

I’m so sorry I took so long :(

questions and answers below the line

Firstly: Things I clarified and feel could have caused some confusion:

Clarification 1: I do take suggestions! So long as no one is rude I love hearing other people’s thoughts/ideas/feedback/speculations/etc. ^_^

Clarification 2: The trio are all halfas. How? Why? What am I basing their abilities off of? Go read Third Time by DarkNympha, I genuinely cannot write anything better than that to capture the astoundingly awesome ideas and emotions than they did. I tried to write my halfa trio as close to how they were depicted there as possible because it is such a work of art. 20/10 would recommend!

Secondly, Questions:

1 Q: How did the trio die?

A: See 10 Q or refer to Clarification 2 :)

2 Q: What was the Scramble Incident?

A: A plot device. The scrambled tech is a challenge for the trio and it does indirectly cause a lot of opportunities/problems I can capitalize on in the story. Currently, fleshing out the incident over time and defeating the scrambler is planned be sort of like a “look how everyone’s changed” deal.

3 Q: Sam and Tucker have mechanical parts integrated to their ghost forms- do they get special functions?

A: Yep! Sam’s camera can take a picture of a person and the picture it shows is of their death! If it is a place it will show who or whatever died their last. She can control it to some degree by filtering out certain kind of death, like if she only wanted to see victims of drowning at a place, or if she only wanted info on cats that have died recently instead of whatever has died recently in general. They mostly used the camera in the scant old, unsolved cases to help some ghosts find peace (No one really gets murdered in Amity now a day so its old cases).

Tucker’s PDA is a living extension of himself and so it can’t really be hacked since he can just adjust things on the fly. Anything he has on his PDA is something he can remember. Say he used his PDA and texted someone a month ago- he’d remember the conversation clearly. Additionally he doesn’t have to focus as much as other ghosts to overshadow tech since the PDA acts as a catalyst (in a sense). I haven’t planned out the details of Tucker’s PDA as much as I have Sam’s camera as the camera becomes important sooner rather than later. Don’t be surprised if I tweak what the PDA can do ;)

4 Q: Has Jason mentioned Sam to anyone from the family yet? The Anti Ecto Acts seem like something Batman should know about.

A: He hasn’t! He looked through the acts, read the Fenton’s ‘research’ and realized that he fits the description of a violent non-feeling (he only really expresses anger or irritation these days) ghost pretty well. He doesn’t trust the others, especially Bruce, to see that ‘research’ and still think of him as a person. He’s not going to risk subjecting the trio to Batman either. It gets worse once he has access to the Amity side of the web and reads whatever bs the GIW has been spewing. It’ll get better though

5 Q: Danny has an ice core, so what cores do Sam and Tucker have?

A: I’ve combined strong electricity and fire into a plasma core, and that is what Tucker has. Sam has an earthy leaning nature core. Bonus info- Vlad has either a frail plasma core or a strong combustion nature core, Dani has an aqueous leaning nature core, and Clockwork has a temporal core.

6 Q: How old is everyone?

A: The trio are 16 and that makes Jazz 19 as she is 2 ish years older than them. Jason is legally 26, and I know that he was dead for 4 years so he’s arguably 22. He and everyone else considers him 26 in story though. I haven’t decided on anyone else’s ages as of yet but Damian is probably going to be 14 because Jason needs more crises for me to address later on.

7 Q: Are the Mansons/Jason worried that Sam is gone?

A: Addressed in the last 2 chapters! Directly: Jason was worried and now he’s… still worried. Indirectly: The Mansons, and the other party guests, are unconscious/unaware and are being carted off to hospitals. This’ll come up later.

8 Q: Is this on AO3?

A: Yes! You can go here and if that doesn’t work here is the link:

9 Q: Sam is Jewish. Why are her parents so concerned with Christmas?

A: This is less about religion and more about influence! They worry about the Christmas Gala because it’s a prestige thing to be invited and they care about their image too much not to go. It can be seen as a snuff if you don’t go and then Upperclass Politics Occurs. Additionally it’s a great time to socialize and do fancy rich people connections stuff. So yeah, their approach is based more the social aspect of the party than a religious one.

10 Q:

Referring to this I assume: “People who died with conviction strong enough to become an obsession or who died traumatically enough to became ghosts did so with fully matured cores.”

A: When I wrote that I was focusing on how someone died and the events leading up to their death in my mind. For example, if someone was convinced they were being stalked for days beforehand and then is murdered they might have more emotional buildup than someone who gets murdered suddenly out of the blue. I feel like there would be a limited window after a person dies that outside events could still impact if they become a ghost- like if the murderer from the previous scenario hid the body after doing the deed the person might gather more ectoplasm and linger because they want their body to be found (more emotions basically).

The death of the trio is the portal accident but Sam and Tucker got hit. I used Third Time as the basis for the trio (I highly recommend that read, I enjoyed it a ton). There are differences in abilities but for the most part I yoinked the fic as the background for the trio. I just… I did try to write a one shot in the same vein and then later when I was working out the details for the Halfa Trio I found myself just regurgitating Third Time in various ways. DarkNymfa knocked the ball out of the park. I just can’t do better than the original.

As far as Jason and his resurrection goes, I have not yet worked everything out and don’t want to say much on what I have decided on as that mystery is something that can act as a great tool to move the plot forward. Mysteries aren’t fun if they are figured out too quickly.

11 Q: Is Scarecrow a ghost?

A: Nope! He is liminal and the reason the trio mistook him for a ghost (besides his ghostly appearance) was that Jason, who was in the attic below them, triggered their ghost senses. They realized their mistake when Scarecrow/Crane didn’t fight Batman like a ghost would’ve. No intangibility, telekinesis, etc.

And that’s all. I’m sorry that some of these have been sitting in the comments for for months ^_^’

I’m going to try to get back into replying to comments so we’ll see how that goes.

#Miscmonstro writings #danny phantom #dp x dc #jason todd #danny fenton #tucker foley #sam manson #dp x batman

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