#i don't want discourse just want to vent

[mother-of-houseplants-2]

when will people stop talking about 'former gifted kid syndrome' like it's just "i used to be smart and now i'm not wah wah wah" and start talking about what it really is, which is "people expected perfection from me my whole life with no support and now i'm struggling as a grown up with no support"

[if-loki-was-a-fox]

it's always a little frustrating to me when aroallo people don't understand or care about asexuality

I know that aroallo-ness has it's own struggles, amatanormativity and heteronormativity hate us all in unique and intersecting ways and it definitely sucks for aroallo folk (especially with how I've seen plenty of people talk about how they get the least explicit canon rep in fiction out of all the aro/ace combos) ...but sometimes it feels like a lot of aroallo people start taking that frustration out on aroace/ace-ness, instead of amatanormativity/heteronormativity and the aphobic/uncaring allo folk who enforce it. Y'know, the people who actually dislike aromanticism and asexuality, and who really don't give a shit about nuanced and varied aro rep.

(presumably there's also alloace people out there who are the same about aromanticism too -- I'm just talking about aroallo people because that's what I have personally been seeing, and I don't want to just make shit up about the alloaces.)

[satorus-little-monster]

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I keep seeing the discourse about nonsharers and honestly, the people bitching about nonsharers need to fucking chill out.

This is coming from a sharer, by the way.

Nonsharers and their feelings are fucking valid. They're allowed to vent and they're allowed to block doubles or anything else that makes them uncomfy. Y'all bitching about them can't tell them to curate their space, much less HOW to curate their space, and then get mad when they do curate their spaces so they don't get upset (i.e if they blocked you, etc).

I'm sorry, it just gets me so heated seeing nonsharers get shit for their own valid feelings for their ships.

[tsundereition]

omg guys proshipper isn't "basic dni criteria", like that list is supposed to represent actual irl issues(*), not some 2020 internet discourse. you guys are so annoying like if you're uncomfortable interacting with proshippers i understand and respect it, although you probably have a very twisted idea of what the word means (would make a separate post abt it but there are hundreds already). but please don't equate it to actual crimes. (*)also do you seriously think that a bigot troll is going to read your dni and be magically expelled from your strong aura. if anything it's going to make them want to harass you more. it's obvious that those lists are just a pose like "if i don't put racists dni they're gonna think i'm racist" NO aaagh you don't have to over-specify(?) everything about you when interacting online can we please go back to being normal istg. reject modernity embrace not writing a dni list and just blocking people like a normal person <3

[bunnyburrowsys]

i despise those who say taco is an abuser and then don't listen to those who try to say their point of view

"im not reading that" go fuck yourself then.

(this is about a certain microphone fan that i will not name but if you know, you know)

(and NOT targeted at any of my moots i will love and cherish you till the end of my days istg)

Fronting: Lollipop ~ She/He | Julius [He/They/Mew]

(lolli is the one who's typing she's uh filled with hatred and anger)

[whumpster-fire]

Just saw some grade-F Discourse about smoking indoors and I now really wish it was possible to build up an Iocaine Powder style immunity to mustard gas and chlorine that also let me get high on it specifically so I could go into crowded public venues and vape copious amounts of that shit then call people pussies and posers when they don't like my WWI chemical weaponry. If blister agents cause you "health problems" you should just wear a gas mask or stay home. You fucking weenie loser.

[jinxed-sinner]

begging other aroacespec Alastor fans to stop acting like the aroacespec community is a monolith

Before I go any further this is a vent so please keep that in mind. Additionally this isn't targeted at anyone specific, I've been meaning to make my stance on this clear since I first got into Hazbin but anxiety's been kicking my ass. So fuck anxiety, I'm getting tired of implicitly being treated like I'm not aroacespec just because I ship Radioapple.

I've mentioned To Preen An Angel's Wings here a few times, but I am very much respecting Alastor's aroace identity while still making it a Radioapple fic because I'm using it as a way to explore my own identity as demiaroace. Hell, I even make it clear that I acknowledge that Alastor is aroace (I literally have Lucifer saying “I know [Alastor]’s not into romance or sex" in the first chapter, within the first 800 words even). Demiaroace is still aroacespec. Asexuality and aromanticism aren't a one-size-fits-all experience.

I still crave a romantic relationship, but due to a combination of social anxiety, being demiaroace, and just anxiety in general, I don't have that yet. My anxiety prevents me from getting to know anyone so I can form the connection required for me to feel attraction. Additionally I have a habit of purposely ignoring red flags in my friendships, which also makes me nervous about being in a romantic relationship. Me craving a romantic relationship doesn't suddenly make me not aroacespec. I'm still aroacespec. Hell, I'm even sex repulsed and think sex is gross but have a high sex drive. How does that happen? Your guess is as good as mine.

I genuinely don't know what it is about the Hazbin Hotel fandom, but I've never been in a fandom that gets this bad about respecting characters' canon sexual/romantic orientations to the point of harassing people over it or feeling the need to comment on everything that can potentially be read as ship, and I've been in both the Sonic and the Undertale fandoms. It's so fucking bad that I've genuinely questioned if some Hazbin fans have ever participated in fandom spaces before.

I'm not saying other aroace people can't project onto Alastor and I'm not saying people have to ship him with anyone; I am however saying that going after people who project onto him differently or going after people who do ship him is not fucking okay.

Act like a fucking adult. If you see something you don't like, just block it like an adult. Stop reminding people every time you see someone say "ship" and "Alastor" in the same post that Alastor's aroace. It's fucking exhausting to me, as someone who is aroacespec, to see other aroacespec people constantly remind others that Alastor's aroace. Nobody's forcing you to do anything, Vivziepop liking Radioapple doesn't mean it'll become canon or that she retconned Alastor being aroace, and fanfiction and fanart aren't canon. Additionally, people shipping something doesn't mean they want it to be canon. I ship Radioapple purely in fanfiction and fanart, I don't want it to be canon.

Grow up, be mature, stop reminding people Alastor's aroace every time a post can vaguely be read as shipping Alastor, for fuck's sake. If it bothers you that bad just block the person who posted it like a mature fucking adult. I will not be budging on this and if you try to start an argument with me about this I won't hesitate to block you because I'm sick of this

[if-loki-was-a-fox]

Ugh I really don't like complaining about random stuff people do, but the guilt-trippy and hostile variations on "reblogs are better than likes" messages on art really bother be so much they trigger my anxiety and make me feel awful every time I see them and I can't freaking filter them because everyone always phrases it differently

[zhoras-bitch]

The problem with Kamal in KFS to me is that in another story I would be all over him. He fits my type to a T, I always love the sweet protective gentle giant trope. And RC hasn't really done an LI like that yet, so my excitement should be through the roof right now.

But I cannot stand the way Remy writes his romance. Whyyy does she have to remind me time and time again that he knew MC as a kid and has only seen her like that until very recently. The comments of him realising how mature Devi has become and how much she's grown and how she's a woman now like uuuugh. I know what she is trying to do here, but it's only achieving the effect of making me feel icky.

[phantom-fleetways]

Honestly, as much as it would be neat that Surge and Kit are kidnap victims. I would actually hate to see it come to pass. And I do mean hate.

Like listen, I'm not good at explaining things. But you all do realize the level of cop out that would be right? So what if they're kidnapping victims? That makes them no more interesting than the people Eggman has harmed or even kidnapped himself.

Surge and Kit are supposed to be impressive to Eggman. Not run of the mill. Any old annoying bad guy in IDW can capture someone and put cybernetics in them! Hell! Sonic Lost World is canon to IDW. And Tails was like half robotized or whatever they called it in that game. If Surge and Kit are two kidnap victims who have metal skeletal structures and generator's forced into them, then they are no different then a cyborg.

Like... Do you genuinely believe Eggman, the man who invented robotatization itself, would be impressed by something like that? Impressed by a Cyborg?

I honestly believe that the two aren't. Mostly due to two different factors.

Starline sucks at kidnapping people. (Even with help he's only half decent at it.)

Starline was more than happy to own a DNA sample of Tails.

Not to mention the fact that he most definitely looked into Project Shadow. Something we know impressed Eggman in the past (and maybe still does. Seeing as Shadow really is an interesting foe for him.) Or the fact that he wanted Belle's coding to help make a personality.

Like I'm not saying that they can't be kidnapped. Frankly if you want to believe they are kidnapped Mobians. Go ahead. I won't make you change your headcanons. I might not agree, but you can have them. And they don't inherently clash with my idea. I just refuse to believe the Surge and Kit we know and see are kidnap victims. Maybe they once were, many many many experiments ago. But the ones we got right here? They're test tube babies to me. They just sorta... Have to be.

[demodraws0606]

Warning : Salty Rant below

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This is gonna be slightly irrational but this weekend has been very shit and I need to rant right now.

The amount of salt I have for the horrendous q!BBH takes that have come ever since his team has been betrayed is enormous right now.

Lord help me to conjure all the self control I have not to yell at people that maybe they should listen to cc!BBH when he says that "he would kill the ENTIRE SERVER if it means getting the eggs back".

I was so happy to see cc!BBH gaining another reason to make his character spiteful against the other islanders but now I can't stumble into Tumblr without people making q!BBH out to be this pillar of morality again.

Like I'm sorry that I think q!BBH indiscriminatly terrorising people like q!Slime and killing them is like worse morally than killing a Stone Egg that we have no evidence to believe is actually connected to the real eggs (even more so that in some people's case they think they would've been forced to do it anyways).

It was shit that they betrayed their words and I do like how it kinda flipped the q!BBH's dynamic with the entire server on it's head making him look like the only rational one.

Even then GGN didn't even think they were betraying the deal since they were going by the logic that if they didn't kill the egg it was fine (at least q!Etoiles did)

However now I'm stuck again with the fandom treating BBH's characters like poor little victims who did nothing wrong which is a thing that I hated ever since the DSMP. Except now there is even less justification for it because the cc! straight up told us in our face that his character isn't moral by any means.

[thissying]

People happily shipping Max with other drivers but Max being called girldad weirds them out. Make it make sense 🤷🏼‍♀️

[star-burrow]

So fucking pissed at people who say that hyperspecific labels “make the queer community look bad” or “is just pure attention seeking”, NO MF I JUST LIKE HAVING A NAME FOR THINGS I FEEL.

Like, my situation with gender is so fucking complicated that having a person coin something such as “dazegender” was so good to me, and I still have a complicated relationship with gender !! I’m so glad for whoever coined the term “Omnisexual/romantic” because it would've been a living nightmare to do mental gymnastics to feel like I fitted pan or bi.

“But those are spectrums” do people treat them as such ? Do they really ? Plus it's just difficult to my head to grasp the concept of “spectrum” it either is or is not, that's how my brain works personally. (My brain needs to be able to name things, basically. And also to know exactly what to do, if we're talking about chores, per say).

In today's generation so many people (me included) just find it SO HARD to put their feelings into words that it is genuinely a blessing to have labels that can label what we feel so precisely (to us, at least), “but you're overcomplicating something that should be simple” feelings are so far from being simple, honestly, and what is simple to you may not be to me, and that's okay, just don't call me attention seeking or whatever.

Also, also !! Hyperspecific labels/flags just make me (at least) feel more validated, since it makes it clear to me that I'm not alone in the way I feel and it kinda validates me (in a good way) :] And it's the Queer Community after all, so I think it's past the time we start actually acting like that.

[mrstsung]

Look mk shipping discourse ahead

So warning ya before you kontinue. These are just my opinions. Plz dont take them so to heart ok?

Cw: vent,discourse

If yall gonna actually do subscorp.....

Bi-han and hanzo have more sexual tension than kaui ever fucking did but y'all aint ready for that conversation. ☕ *sips coffee*

Kuai and hanzo had misunderstandings and genuine friendship. Could it be something more. Sure but it doesn't need to be to be interesting or even wholesome.

Meanwhile bi-han og subzero and hanzo had this love hatefuck in their eyes. Good fucking god like y'all be shipping the wrong subzero brother.

But y'all just only like kaui cuz he's the quote unquote "nicer" brother. Meanwhile what actually happened could male for better and classic AND REAL ENEMIES TO LOVERS TROPE. i mean it's right fucking there. Kuai and hanzo were never enemies. Let alone friends till waaaaaaaaay later. And even then....they had better things to do than each other. Sorry not sorry. Kaui and hanzo were just damn to platonic to me. Meanwhile bi-han and hanzo be like "bitch" "bitch" and then internally probably all like "💖🔥🔪"

And hanzo and kaui couldn't work because of that tension hanzo has with bi-han. Mostly on bi-hans half than hanzo. Cuz y'all conveniently forget. Hanzo killed bi-han over a misunderstanding,yeah a mofo dont just forget that. You'd be pissed too if you were wrongfully killed over something you didn't do by a ninja from a rival clan. Like bruh.

You can't have this ship without complications and problems.

So you either fix that. Or do the smart thing and ship KUAI LIANG WITH TOMAS VERBADA AKA SMOKE. BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY ARE FROM THE SAME FUCKING CLAN AND HAVE WAY MORE IN COMMON AND HAVE ACTUALLY LIVED AND BEEN AROUND EACH OTHER!!! ffs.

Hanzo hasashi has not shown in canon anything to kuai than just mutual respect.

Kuai maybe but i dunno. I feel people reach so much with this ship it's like do we even play the same game?

Meanwhile the fucking "bitch fest" bi-han and hanzo have is on another lvl. Granted all this hate is still misplaced and quan chi is the real problem. But ya know.

If you're gonna ship a subzero with hanzo. Bi-han subzero makes more sense.

Tho i personally don't ship hanzo with any subzero ever. (I either self ship or have him just be dad ninja)

And i ship kuai liang subzero with tomas and bi-han with sareena (and self ship with either on occasion)

Either way the point is. Y'all be going about these characters and their dynamics so wrong. And i feel people just want different characters than what is actually happening. Like go make an oc at that point. It's different when they dont have certain dynamics shown and aspects. (Most mk villains dont because they are treated majority of the time as guys to beat up. So they aren't like sub and scorp. Which is shown.....everywhere,all the time,and takes up a majority of the plot. So we know all there is about yellow n blue ninja clans. Even then it doesn't go into that much detail but still we get more insight with them than any other character. Even liu kang and kung lao don't have as much as the two posterboys of mk. Which sucks)

Shipping aside. It sucks that both subzeros(kuai and bi-han) and scorpion(hanzo) get so grossly misinterpreted by fans. And think that everything is hunky dory peaches and roses. When it really isn't. While neither clan after a certain point is warring or fighting each other. There still is tension. Simply because of years,decades even of the mess left behind. Hanzo has to rebuild from the ground up. And kuai has to repair and restore the lin kuei to what it used to be but better and more equal. And less....robotic. lol. There was still a lot of work. Not to mention if noob became bi-han subzero again,somehow. That would add even more awkward tension(good storytelling tho) because bi-han while maybe he could forgive hanzo,he could never be friends truly. And if you guys ship kuai and hanzo. I dont think kuai would feel comfortable with having his only damn brother he's worked so hard to bring back and rekindle his family with just so he cpuld get some dick. Im sorry,relationships dont work that way. Hanzo and kaui are family oriented,and if one or more of parties involved are not on equal playing field or cares for the other. It's a no go.

What im trying to say is the dynamic is not healthy,long lasting,or even worth it. There is not any good chemistry.

Until bi-han and hanzo in canon make amends. Only then could you MAYBE. JUST MAYBE. Make that work.

But again shipping aside.

Tomas/smoke and kuai liang subzero. Works better. Because they not only like i said are from the same clan,grew up together. Bi-han more likely than not. Would understand tomas and actually be pretty cool with him.

Like I'm just saying people.

If you want kuai liang to be with a pyromancer fire dude so damn bad.

But Thank you for koming to my ted talk.

MAKE A FUCKING OC!

Maybe this is just me tho.

[undead-potatoes]

Honestly such a bummer that "are you in the headspace to receive information that could potentially harm you" kicked up so much discourse and became a meme bc it IS genuinely good to ask people "hey can I just dump a bunch of shit on you rn?" before you do that (the script that person gave was just terrible).

People have their own traumas and bad days, and just dumping shit on top of that with no thought isn't always gonna be okay. If I know someone has struggles relating to a topic I always try ask before I just jump into talking about it, making sure I don't accidentally trigger some sort of episode for them with my careless bullshit. It takes like 10 seconds and I think it's good to be mindful that you're not the only person on the planet who is struggling at any given moment, and that sometimes you need to find a different person to talk to.

[cosmermaid]

Sigh.

I normally don't give pro/anti-ship the time of day, but sure. If fanfiction discourse is what gets your ass to the polls, than go for it. Jesus fucking christ.