#i don’t actually think it’s queerbait

[theflagscene]

Sky and Nani are basically getting all the benefits of a bl cp without actually being one. Their fans don’t seem to mind (for now) in fact some are quite condescending to Bl fans thinking that Sky and Nani are somehow above doing them. Meanwhile most of their fans ship them together. lol

I’m curious to see how it’s going to all play out cuz the initial hype will die down eventually. In this business there is always a new popular cp

Oh absolutely! I think a lot of their fans are holding out hope that the boys will eventually take on a BL, but I really don’t think they will. It’ll be interesting to see them be the first bromance branded pairing, to see how well that works out for GMMTV.

I’m on the fence about the whole idea, not because of SkyNani, but the idea of a branded bromance pairing in general. It kinda seems a little queerbait-y to me, like the company knows that the boys have great on screen chemistry and that will draw in a lot of QL fans, especially if the trailers for their series are vague about the character’s relationship, like in the pre-production trailer for Wu.

So they reel in viewers that are hoping for something that they won’t get, which is some kind of romance. Which can leave fans mad, but that won’t take away from the viewing numbers which is all corporate really cares about, unhappy fans can’t take back their watch time.

I’d never expect an actor to do work they don’t want to do or are uncomfortable doing, and I don’t think any actor is homophobic or wrong for not wanting to do a queer series or being gay for pay, which unfortunately a lot of people assume is the case if someone doesn’t want to act in a same sex romance. That is their own choice and they have their own reasons for making those choices, but what I do not support is production companies using those same actors who have made it very clear that they do not want to be in those types of series, using queerbaiting techniques to pull in viewers to shows that they know would not get as many viewers if the company was upfront about the lack of queer representation in the series.

I have no issues with bromance/platonic love stories, in fact I would love to see more of them! I want more stories about people of all genders absolutely loving the hell out of each other, being full blown soulmates without not having any romantic feelings toward one another.

I just have a bad feeling about this SkyNani branding because most fans want one thing from them—a BL—and it really does not seem like that’s gonna happen. And when it doesn’t, the poor boys are going to suffer the fallout, not GMMTV. Which is just unfair.

[ladders101]

gay rep is like “kyaaaaaah!!! i like a boy but… i’m a boy >////<?!?!” meanwhile queerbait will be “it’s not a game for me troy. i’m seeing real lava because you’re leaving. it’s embarrassing and i don’t want to be crazy, but i am crazy so… i made a game that made you and everyone else see what i see. i don’t want it to be there either, i swear. i want you to be able to leave, but i don’t think the lava goes away until you stop leaving”

[asmidge]

Not to sound like I’m about to lose chess to a dog, but they weren’t kidding, Agatha All Along is pretty gay

[leonardalphachurch]

i know this is the found family fandom but honestly. we’ve always been a fan of groups growing up and moving past each other. like i think the ending was a little stupid bc simmons is just… in blood gulch now? the leader of an empty base??? but uh. the idea of grif going home and simmons staying in the army. yeah. like yeah. that’s probably how we would’ve written it too.

[madzillus]

I started watching Interview with the Vampire. My thoughts are now consumed by Interview with the Vampire.

[shizukahaiji]

Blue Lock Twitter’s going nuts right now over the Kaneshiro Episode Nagi interview and I… Really just? Do not get why? He stated that while Reo and Nagi aren’t romantic, he was writing with that interpretation in mind and people are treating it like he’s shutting the idea down entirely… I think the writer of an extremely popular shounen sports manga, one with (let’s be honest) a predominantly dudebro, sports-oriented fanbase, not only encouraging the gay reading but saying that he’s writing scenes WITH that in mind… That’s huge? That’s huge actually???

In hindsight it both makes sense and is a huge relief- I really like the scene right after the Ubers match where Hiori teases Isagi about how Kaisagi’s trending on social media, but a less optimistic read (and one I considered and was honestly worried about) is that just being a weird, homophobic “this would never ever happen and lets have the characters dunk on Isagi for it too” joke. But with this in mind it’s what I really loved it as and am glad it’s intended to be, a nod to the readers out there who ship these characters and playfully encouraging it in a fun little in-universe joke, and I’m really glad that the writer of Blue Lock is so open to people shipping his male characters together

And like. As much as I would love ReoNagi to be explicitly canon, I never in a million years expected it to be canon in a shounen sports manga, ESPECIALLY one so mainstream worldwide like Blue Lock is. Knowing that the writer is acknowledging it, encouraging these kinds of reads and is even adding to it in the writing himself… That’s incredible, and it disappoints me a little seeing so many people upset and angry at him for this. I think you can be sad about it, but I view this as a wholly positive thing and I don’t think Kaneshiro has a single bad intent with what he’s saying in the interview

[unknownentry404]

OFMD Finale spoilers

But. . . I just realised Izzy gets shot in his left side. . .

The side that is “non lethal” in this universe?? Really? We’re gonna go with that?

It really just feels like Izzy’s death just blatantly broke so many rules for the universe and the audience. We thought we were safe, that this was a camp comfort show, with miraculous recoveries, where no one we actually cared about died- But.

But-

No. Our “harsh reality” still somehow exists. We still can’t get our happy ever after?

I’m still on the fence about if we should be calling this out as BYG or not. Does it count if everyone is queer and one queer character dies? No, normally not. But. . . just something about Izzy going on this beautiful journey of queer discovery, self acceptance and found family love, only to be discarded in the most avoidable death possible, once his arc is over and he has no use for the main couple/characters anymore-

In fact, where he actually potentially “jeopardises” them by being in love with Ed. . . It just hits me the wrong way? And got me in that tender spot where a lot of my BYG/QB grief/trauma goes. Idek.

Izzy, their unicorn: one true captain. . .

His death just seems so trite and pointless to me-

[bsdtakanenohana]

Not only was I not planning on reading the Fifteen manga for two reasons (1. anything Dazai &/or Chuuya related gets too much content & even though I love the characters STOP LET US GET CONTENT FOR THE OTHERS TOO 2. ugly af Beast manga artstyle) but the fact that they keep RETCONNING what happened in the light novel to make Dazai and Chuuya all up in each others’ faces looking like they’re about to kiss and TOUCHING each other. It was obvious from the moment they announced Fifteen was getting a manga that this was being done as fanservice to the shippers (that art the mangaka released for Halloween). Fifteen was only adapted into the anime when it was because they were trying to appeal to the shippers. heck, Fifteen was only written as soon as it was to appeal to the growing amount of shippers (I can defend both these points). And now im questioning if recent things in the manga weren’t done purely as fanservice (since they make no sense otherwise)

Basically I’m just getting really f_ck*ng annoyed at how everything official is treating the situation

[redgoldblue]

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[sponsoredbyanxiety]

so in conclusion, this handshake is in fact queerbaiting—

[atomicradiogirl]

PLEASE BE SERIOUS PLEASEEEE BE SERIOUS PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS A JOKE

[universescreaming]

I have a new theory that actually nothing we think we know as of yet is right. Cause here’s the thing we know from some of the very first teasers of this season that Eddie gets hurt and flung off the ladder truck, so where does that fit in into what we’ve seen and gathered?? And WHY would they be showing us THIS much right before the episode premieres if what we think, or what the promos are wanting us to think, is actually correct?? Idk maybe I’m just over thinking this, it’s possible that they’re just releasing all of this to build up hype and get people to want to watch the new episodes since a lot of people were disappointed with 6a, but idk it just feels all too easy? Likes there’s gotta be a twist somewhere that we’re not foreseeing that’s gonna whack us all over the heads, I just hope it’s a good twist

[cartcop]

Don't get we wrong, I feel hopeful too, specially with the whole network change because it means the series has an actual shot of going back to the way it used to be. I feel like lately the emergencies don't have that spark anymore, so I'm looking forward to see what ABC does with them. Also, let's cross our fingers and think that they'll actually give a damn about promo and they'll use (at least in social media) what attracts more attention... I mean, if the answer is a couple of firefighters that are raising a child together, I wouldn't mind.

However, what makes me mad is that by the time they were working on the finale they weren't sure if they were going to come back or not. From what it looks like, all the characters will get a sort of happiesh?) ending just in case, because again, the ABC move back then was not a sure thing.

They did that with The Resident. Sure, at first it was supposed to be a season finale, but they still did an ending that could be interpreted as both options: season finale or series finale. Well, it was cancelled so at the end they at least got a chance to leave the characters in a good place.

That's what will happen with 911 this season, I believe, because after almost six years the show at least deserved a decent ending if for one reason or the other they were not coming back.

My point is, we know that it's not going to be an open ending, and that all the characters will be left in a good place. I know there are a lot of possibilities, but we are talking about miss Kristen Reidel, it wouldn't surprise me if Buck and Eddie end this season with Natalia and Marisol, representing a "traditional" conclusion for both characters.

It wasn't hard to leave them single, if she truly didn't want Buddie to happen, but she just had to bring two random characters for the last four episodes of the season, right? If I follow her previous patterns, what will happen is that for the general audience, Buck and Eddie will end in "heathy" relationships with Natalia and Marisol, but they will share a significant moment together that's up to interpretation for the internet. Classic queerbaiting behavior me thinks.

I'm aware that now we are far from losing the war, especially if we consider that ABC has a different target audience and that they actually tend to listen to them. So, Buddie truly has a chance of happening now.

At the end, what I'm trying to say is, I feel optimistic for the ABC move, but I'm also frustrated because if that had been the series ending, that woman would have given a poor conclusion to Buck and Eddie just because yolo?) There was no reason to have those two random characters with them.

Buddie has a second chance, but I hope and pray to the universe that ABC will realize what they have in their hands and even if *she stays, they will overule her bad takes, not only on Buddie, but for the show in general, that move was not a cheap one. If they really want for the series to last, changes need to be made.

It's also sad to think that if they had stayed at FOX or if they had cancelled the series, we never really had a chance to win, huh. Homophobia will always prevail, no matter what.

The thing with this, anon, is that mostly I think it's a really fair reading of what's been going on. I just read the information we have really differently.

I definitely agree with you that the emergencies have been meh for a while now, but to me that's just a symptom of being 6 seasons deep into a procedural; a new network might breathe a little more life into it, and I hope it does, but I've never watched a show through a network switch so I'm pretty 🤷🏻‍♀️ on how much it's gonna affect the actual content. Def hoping for more promo though.

I get what you're saying about all the character's getting a "happy-ish" ending because they didn't know about season renewal but....isn't that always how it is? Like, I don't personally see much of a difference between where it seems they're gonna leave off 6x18 than any of the other finales we've had.

And I get why a finale where one or both of the boys are in a relationship with a woman would be disappointing if we're reading it from a "they thought this might be the last episode they were ever making" angle (but I am BEGGING someone to show me what KR has said or done that makes y'all believe she hates buddie. Because I was watching casually through most of s5, I missed all that. And from the show itself, I don't get that impression at all. I am genuinely asking PLEASE i need context). But, while I've always been a buddie girlie, 6b is literally the first time I've ever thought they might actually do it. And I've been really confident since 6x13 and the interview about the couch being in play until the very last scene of the season (and still am) that the closing shot of this season is gonna be the three boys on the Diaz couch. It's just the only thing I see as a possible resolution. Not to say you can't read that as a "open for interpretation" fan service moment, but until I know exactly why people think KR is fundamentally opposed the idea of buddie together, I'm gonna be reading it the way the text tells me to.

Because while I've become a bit of a buddie truther in 6b, they're not in a place where getting together by the end of the season would make....any sense. A lot of people disagreed with me on that, but that's been my stance since like, early s6. Just cuz there was no development for them in the first half of the season at ALL, and we knew how jam packed 6b was gonna be with other plotlines with other characters. They've got a lot of growing to do before buddie canon would even be satisfying imo. I just really believe we might be on that track now.

And with that in mind, here's my perspective on the ending IF they were writing it thinking they might never write another episode again: Buck can and should end up alone at the end of the season. He should really concretely know what he's looking for, in the way he didn't when he dumped Taylor. Having Buck explore the opportunity to date someone who is fascinated by his experiences but not actually interested in him is a great way to do that, imo. Him walking away from that and realizing he needs to find someone who will, in Oliver's words, meet him where he's at. I really cannot see Natalia being relevant beyond the finale at all, and if I'm wrong, I'm gonna start seriously questioning the writers, because they've told us she's not it for him (like, even my friends who watch the show very casually were screaming "NOOOOO!!!" at the screen every time she was mentioned in 6x15).

Eddie's more complicated though. Let's say, hypothetically, they realized midway through shooting 6b that renewal wasn't likely with Fox, and they didn't know whether or not they'd be picked up by another network. Eddie's been on this little journey of self discovery about wanting a partner, and has accepted the fact that he's lonely. Ending the show with Eddie in his single status quo would be sad as hell for the GA! We have to remember, we are not the only ones watching this show, and the vast majority are not seeing buddie as romantic options for each other. That can change, I really hope it does change, I am optimistic that it WILL change; but it hasn't yet. If they were trying to wrap things up nicely, with everyone in a pretty good spot, I can see why shoving relatively-underutilized Eddie with a nice girl would be a good way to do that. Easy to undo if they got a s7, but also a lot easier to convince the GA of a love interest for Eddie being good for him, just because he's not as big of a deal to the show (which I hate. I love Eddie I want him to have the world. But Buck is the main character on this show, let's be real)

That's not to mention that this is all speculation; we don't have any idea what's gonna happen with these two women. I'm standing pretty firm in my belief that they won't end the season in relationships, but I could be wrong. And if I'm wrong about Eddie, I can see why they'd make that choice and I'm not even a little mad at it. If I'm wrong about Buck, and he ends up in a clearly doomed relationship with Natalia, I'm less cool with that, but I can see the opportunities for s7 and assume that they were working under the assumption that they'd get a renewal somewhere. If Buck ends up in a seemingly perfect and happy relationship with Natalia, my faith in the writers is gonna plummet, not because queerbaiting, but because they told us it was doomed in 6x15, and it would make it clear to me that the writers don't even know what kind of stories they want to tell on a micro, episode to episode level. But I really can't imagine that happening.

[geekyanglophile]

God dammit… I’m gonna have to start reading Good Omens fanfiction again

[hannibalsjuicyass]

Listen I know this is an open forum tag-your-blorbos type post but some of the ships I’m seeing in the tags simply do not belong here

One-season/movie story arcs just don’t count. Like. If they didn’t undergo several seasons/movies worth of intense homoerotic subtext that made the queer fanbase lose their fucking minds only for word to get around to the creators who then decided they needed to do something about it then I’m sorry this post just doesn’t apply to your ship

Hey man sorry about your male co-star. Turns out you guys had too much sexual tension on screen so he was written into a lazy, heterosexual romance arc that lacks chemistry and depth and actually just makes him look even more queer tbh. Now he's off pretending to be happy with somebody else when the love of his life was right there all along. I'm so sorry dude. It will probably happen again :/

[aro-tarot]

Saw a post come up in tags I follow, and like, ugh, seeing something like that again? Just because a ship isn’t happening that you like doesn’t mean the show is queerbaiting. A queer character is queer without the ship you want to happen. It’s not queerbaiting if the queer character doesn’t end up in the ship that was never going to happen to begin with. They can be with other characters and queer relationships. Not being in that specific ship, that again wouldn’t have happened, is not queerbaiting.

Also, related but not to the specific queer character, people also need to remember that queercoding is a thing.