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In all honesty, the more I think about Ahsoka, the more I think she should have died at the end of Rebels season 2.
She’s a great character, and I love her, but she had such a wonderful character arc up through Clone Wars come to rest in that battle with Darth Vader, and to snatch her away from that feels... cheap?
At the end of Rebels season 2, she faces Darth Vader. His helmet breaks, and she sees him - Anakin Skywalker, her mentor, her older brother who she looked up to, who she loved.
“I won’t leave you,” she tells him. “Not this time.”
It’s an admittance, a confession, and a cry for forgiveness all in one - because it’s true. She walked away from the Jedi - but in doing so, she left him too.
“Then you will die,” Vader says - Anakin says. The final warning, the final promise - even if Ahsoka stays, she cannot save him. She couldn’t save him. She is not enough. Anakin made his choices, and no one could save him.
If she stays - if she keeps her promise, the last promise she will ever make him - she will die.
And she does.
Stay, that is. The temple door closes, and Ezra is pulled away by Kanan. And they both know - we all know - what must have happened behind that door.
Master and apprentice have come full circle. He raised her and he killed her, the last hope that he nurtured lying dead by his own hand.
And then two seasons later Ezra discovers time travel, and ACTUALLY, she does leave. That big moment, the big fight between Ahsoka and Anakin, that last heartbreaking moment... just doesn’t happen?
I get it. I love Ahsoka. I’m looking forward to the new show, and her cameos were fun, but...
She had a character arc. And it was brilliant. And then it was retconned, and everything since honestly does just feel like someone’s fix-it fic. It’s not a bad fix-it fic, but there’s a reason I prefer that to stay fic than become canon.
Ahsoka should have died. That was her story. And I’m looking forward to the new stuff, but... I wish it was another character. I wish they’d let her rest.
#honestly just#those lines kill me#she promised she wouldn't leave him!#she had the chance to run and she didn't!#WHY would you take away such an important character moment?#it feels... cheap#and everything after just feels cheaper#her survival#her relationship with anakin#it all came to a head right then#right in that temple#and then... nothing!#don't worry about it!#we're just going to ignore that now :)#how can she keep going on about anakin#when she abandoned him#not once but three times?#when she broke her final promise to him?#not by choice#but still!#anyway#i'm not writing it#more star wars thoughts#twilight of the apprentice is filoni's fix-it fic#ahsoka#rebels#rebels critical#star wars#star wars: rebels#rebels season 2
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padmé is as possesive and obssesive as anakin she just doesn't seem like it. send tweet.
#silly posting#anidala#padmé amidala#anakin skywalker#i have a very specific way of thinking of them and it's that...their relationship isn't abusive but isn't normal nor very sane but it works#and it works because both of them are just so abnormal so their messed-up-ness works well like it balances each other#and it's as good as it can get for the both of them and it doesn't really hurt the other#but if they were hypothetically with another more normal person? oh hell bye#vaderdala is another can of worms though i think a more evil padme sees her husband as someone she owns and vader feels safe with that lmao
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One of the biggest arguments I’ve seen used by the Ob*d*l*s against Anidala, is that scene in the ROTS novel where Padmé says she could trust OW with the secret of the rebellion and was hesitant to tell Anakin and I just wanna say:
Padmé wasn't an idiot. She was an extremely intelligent and competent woman, perfectly able to understand that loving Anakin and thinking that he could be trusted with a certain politic-related matter were two very different things and reducing her choice regarding who to trust with an important political matter only on the basis of her feelings of romantic love diminishes her professionalism, and this is why I say y'all could never understand her.
Padmé didn’t have to "love" OW or even like him at all to know he was the perfect Jedi to ask for help in a secret political matter.
That's the point being made in the novel, she’s hit with the realization that Anakin in this particular moment could not be told this piece of info because of his relationship with Palpatine, and Padmé specifically mentions in the Junior ROTS novel that she didn't want to make Anakin “keep a secret” if he didn’t agree with their stance because it’d be “unfair.” So this also played a part in why Padmé didn’t think it best to inform Anakin about the Rebellion. It honestly had little to do with her actually lacking trust in him, and more to do with the circumstances she was in not allowing her to be open with her husband and her not wanting to make him choose between his wife and his “father figure.”
However, Padmé knows OW’s political ideas aren't tied to ONE particular person but to a philosophy, one which is closer to her own, at that point. None of this was ever meant to be hinted as “romantic” or even remotely insinuated as romantic. It’s strictly professional and even the tone of the scene makes that so abundantly clear.
All I’m saying is that, some of these proshippers are doing the most out here to try and prove their ship, like my loves? You forgot a very important thing called ✨ context ✨ and regardless of her rational thinking, Padmé still went out of her way to try and talk out all of this Rebellion secrecy stuff with Anakin when she confronted him in the scene where she asks if he ever thought they were “fighting on the wrong side.” Padmé didn’t trust OW in the same way she trusted Anakin (with her entire self and being) she had the level of trust and love for Anakin that was only meant for him.
Mixing up her unwavering faith in Anakin as her husband with her trust in OW’s devotion to duty as her comrade/ally is purposely deluding yourself, because the two aren’t the same and therefore can’t be compared. An example of this is: Padmé constantly putting more value to Anakin’s words over OW’s in the end of ROTS when he came to tell her of Anakin’s “crimes”. She completely disregarded what OW had claimed about her husband and instead made her way to where Anakin was herself, to ask him directly. Despite what the truth was, this is proof of her trusting Anakin unconditionally, and I didn’t even think I had to spell that out because it’s as clear as day.
In conclusion, Padmé didn’t trust OW more than Anakin, she just knew the circumstances she was in didn’t exactly make it easy for her to openly talk with her husband about these matters and that’s part of what played into the issues they had in ROTS, it’s exactly what Sidious wanted.
#star wars#anidala#anakin skywalker#padmé amidala#sw novels#revenge of the sith novelization#revenge of the sith junior novelization#avoiding tagging and using full character names because I don’t wanna attract those weirdos on my post#haters dni#anti ob****d*la#i’ve seen shippers claim that ow and padme would make a better couple simply because they both value duty and share some of the same ideals#even though padmé’s strong sense of duty doesn’t define her personal identity#she’s always wanted to leave behind her responsibilities to live a simple happy life with her husband#she stays out duty and care for peace and justice in the galaxy#which is actually a trait she shared with anakin not ow#anakin is loyal and dutiful because he cares about helping people and that’s padmé’s aim too#ow stays to help people because of his devotion to the jedi#that’s not the same#saying she’d be more compatible with ow is like the punchline of a bad joke#in every way padmé shares more in common with anakin when it comes to the core of her personality#and relationships aren’t built off sharing ideals mind you#it’s about connecting and sharing core values which is what anakin and padmé always had#there’s a reasons why padmé and ow argued a lot in wild space#padmé says the one thing her and ow can agree on is loving anakin otherwise their mindsets clash way too much#compatible? never in a million years.#padmé herself disagrees#and apart from the fact that canonically padmé never shows romantic interest in him#nor does the narrative include ow as one of padmé’s love interests…#holy god my tags deserve their own posts
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If we're sharing our bad opinions, I think that if Anakin and Padme had both lived they would've gotten divorced
Oh yeah that is a bad opinion alright have you considered believing in love and bad decisions somehow working out anyway I really like this picture of them
#ask#anon#no offence anon im half joking#im just also protective of these two relationship#bc i feel like it gets ragged on alot#and im just over it#like anakin was toxic#but so was padme#she literally died when she realised her man couldnt be saved#leaving her two children to fend for themselves#toxic co dependency wins
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rotating in my head failmarriage anidala au where things are arranged the way that anakin doesn't fall to the dark side and kills palpatine thus he finally gains the trust of the jedi council and generally celebrated in the order. but padme gives birth before leaving for naboo and the twins end up being taken to the jedi order (probably yoda doing ngl💀). and once babies are in you can't get them out no matter what. so anakin has no choice but stay in the order to secretly look after his kids meanwhile padme is losing her mind😔 all their plans for the happy future are ruined. but they still love each other and work together as a team tho that tragedy caused a big unrepairable rift in their previously harmonious relationship. anakin takes one of the twins as his padawan. obiwan one day looks at 9yo luke realization dawning on him and he stops talking to anakin for months (until he gaslighted himself he made everything up probably lol). both anakin and padme work to gain political influence during those years and end up as power couple with padme as chancellor and anakin as the next grand master after yoda died.
#star wars#anidala#this au requires some amount of ooc but i love it for the angst potential hehe#regarding rift i mean padme being understandably distraught regarding being separated from her kids until at least their padawan years...#and she takes it out on anakin sometimes bc of envy and his overall association with jedi order who took her kids being triggering#it's not rational but yeah i think that whole situation causes relationship to be very painful for both
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Ahsoka sassing the shit out of Anakin and making Rex laugh the first time they meet.
Anakin had never before experienced such betrayal from his own Captain.
#the clone wars movie#anakin skywalker#captain rex#ahsoka tano#please i could write like an entire thesis on why i love the relationship between ahsoka and rex so much#not that i could promise coherency#but everything about their enduring friendship during and after the clone wars is beautiful#neither of them would have survived order 66 without the other#ahsoka risked her life to remove his chip#rex chose her over his own brothers during order 66#but she refused to be the one to kill them and she had no intention of making rex kill his own brothers for her#ok shutting up now i just really love them so much
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I wish I could see jealous!Padmé at least once in the Clone Wars.
We had two arcs with Anakin being jealous. They could have given us at least one episode of how Padmé is when she feels jelly.
I have a feeling that while Anakin usually usually reacts.
Padmé would try to rationalize and be a little bit antagonist and more condescending while pretending everything is fine.
#star wars#anidala#anakin skywalker#padme amidala#i love cw!padme#but they seem to have done her be a little bit too confident and mature on her relationship#she was like on her early 20's during the entire thing#she can have her immature moments at times specially if it is regarding her relationship/marriage#then they talk about it and things get better#or as fine it can be in sw universe
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The constant pervasive ideas about the Jedi, that they're repressed and bad at relationships and isolated from the world and its realities and stuck in their ways, is actually just... Anakin.
Like people looked at Anakin Skywalker and assumed that because he was the protagonist that the way he acted was somehow a symptom of the Jedi's teachings or upbringing instead of just... Anakin's personality?
Anakin is repressed, more than almost literally any other character in the entire franchise. Anakin chronically refuses to really acknowledge how he's feeling and pretends he ISN'T feeling it while multiple other people might be begging him to do the opposite.
Anakin is bad at relationships, he pressures Padme into a relationship by constantly ignoring her stated boundaries and disrespecting her. He complains about his OTHER relationships to Padme and Palpatine, particularly his relationship to Obi-Wan. He's awkward and overly melodramatic, incapable of truly expressing himself in a way that isn't immediately off-putting to normal people or being able to express his more positive feelings towards someone in a way they might recognize or accept.
Anakin isolates himself from the world and its realities, refusing to see nuance anywhere, and preferring to view things from an entirely black and white perspective, particularly in order to make himself out to be the hero of any situation (the Tuskens are animals, the Separatists are evil, the Jedi are evil, etc).
Anakin is stuck in his ways. Similar to the last point, Anakin refuses to accept that any way but his own could possibly work or be worth considering. He thinks he's extra special and therefore people like Obi-Wan have literally nothing to teach him of any worth. Anakin doesn't WANT to think differently about the Separatists even when Padme tells him otherwise. Anakin does things in a certain specific way and refuses to change even if it might be better to do so.
I dare someone to try to come up with an accusation made about the Jedi's culture and lifestyle that "needs to change" that isn't literally just ANAKIN'S personality flaws projected onto the Jedi at large.
Maybe the Jedi don't need to change at all and Anakin just as an unhealthy toxic personality that even the Jedi couldn't fix.
#jedi#star wars#this goes for obi-wan SPECIFICALLY too#like everyone looks at ANAKIN'S flaws and manages to project them onto obi-wan#obi-wan doesn't actually struggle with attachments#obi-wan does not actually think he's a bad jedi#obi-wan is not actually repressed at all and seems to know and understand himself quite well#obi-wan doesn't really seem to struggle in his relationships aside from with satine a little which is like 80% her fault anyway#between anakin and obi-wan only one of them appears to have any real successful friendships#not even just among the jedi either#he's clearly friends with bail and dex as well#anti anakin#anti anakin skywalker#anakin critical#anakin skywalker critical
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if u realize that anakin/darth vader is part of the natalie portman cinematic universe it makes the prequels much more interesting !!.
natalie portman often selects roles where the love interest or male authority figure endangers her character. such as V for vendetta, leon the professional, black swan, the other boleyn girl, closer... all of these have themes of men abusing power (usually with some romantic or sexual motivation)
natalie picks her roles carefully!
often we say "final girl" in referring to horror movies, but .... darth vader kind of a reverse natalie portman final girl
#and thor! fits this ngl#he has so so much more power than her in the relationship even though it doesn't go badly#anakin is my final girl#natalie portman#anakin skywalker#anakin#darth vader#star wars#revenge of the sith#sw rots#hayden christensen#star wars prequels#star wars rots#padme amidala#padme naberrie
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Me watching the prequel movies: "Padme's alright, but she's kind of boring and I don't care for her that much."
Me watching Clone Wars: "Padme Amidala could dropkick me, step on my neck, and spit in my face, and I would thank her. She is so cool and smart and I want to be her and also maybe be her assistant. She's a savvy politician who believes in peace but is not afraid to shoot a bitch if needed. Revenge of the Sith Anakin doesn't deserve her."
#star wars#star wars prequels#star wars the clone wars#sw tcw#padme amidala#sw prequels#sw padme#literally did not give a shit about her while watching the movies#then i watched the show and oh my god she is amazing#every time there was a padme episode i absolutely loved it and had an amazing time#actual girlboss#also now i can actually understand why she was so loyal to anakin even when he became a trainwreck#their relationship was imperfect but actually really sweet and i saw the chemistry#they felt like a power couple sometimes and really balanced each other out#and while anakin always had some aggressive tendencies#i understand how padme would be caught off guard and still love him/think she can change him#she's seen him at some of his low points and he bounced back so how is this different and why is he acting different?#it's actually really sad#i didn't care when she died while watching the prequels#but when i watched the show i'd suddenly feel really upset because i'd remember what's going to eventually happen to her#this strong and amazing woman would die of grief while giving birth after her husband betrayed her and that was heartbreaking#and then years later her planet would be destroyed by that very husband she had once loved so dearly#god damn it now i'm sad
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Rael’s PoV in Rabbit Heart made me wonder about outsider POV of Syku. In-universe Jedi are probably ‘known’ as loveless celibates (given Padme's question to Anakin) so how would non-Jedi react to Syku in the Rabbit Heart universe (if they’re obvious enough)?
This is such a fun ask. :D So, for those of you not familiar with my fics, the Rabbit Heart universe is me playing with the idea that in the canon gap between Dooku getting knighted/taking Rael and Rael’s knighting, Dooku and Sifo-Dyas try an actual “Jedi” version of a relationship and what does that look like. Anyway, Come closer. No, closer. Let me tell you a secret.
Sifo-Dyas and Dooku are incredibly obnoxious together.
Obviously I adore them, I ship them, they’re my blorbos, I think that they have valorous, interesting qualities. But I really am taking two characters who canonically seem to be widely considered “annoying as shit” by OTHER JEDI, you know, those zen people who respect everybody, and I'm banging them together like Barbie dolls.
They’re conspirators in every sense of the word. Their togetherness is exclusionary by its very definition. They show off to each other at every opportunity. You get them in a room - even after a falling out and long separation at the end of Dooku: Jedi Lost - and they can’t stop making critical, sarcastic jokes at/to each other. Even at their most genuine and loving with each other, they couch it in insult. They amp each other up, compete, drag each other into shit that separately, they probably wouldn’t do. They both think they’re the main character. They’re both completely convinced of their own rightness.
And the way that Dooku even sees Sifo-Dyas. He talks a lot about him at the beginning of Dooku: Jedi Lost - and this is SITH Dooku, who KILLED Sifo-Dyas, not just the recordings of little boy Dooku describing his best friend in such loving detail that Asajj has to fast forward through his burbling. To Dooku, Sifo-Dyas is SPECIAL. Sifo-Dyas is DIFFERENT. Dooku has this real “us versus them” manner of thinking about his relationships (that he fully transfers to his Padawans, by the way.) The chosen people Dooku cares about are the people Dooku has decided are worthy: mavericks, rulebreakers, exceptions, extra talented so they don’t have to play by the rules for regular normal losers - just like he thinks of himself. (I think this is actually funny because I truly believe in his heart of hearts, Dooku takes a great deal of stability and satisfaction from knowing the rules and playing the game exactly right. It’s part of why he looks so fucking shattered in that last scene. He was the Perfect Sith Apprentice Good Boy?!)
So yeah, I think people who encounter Dooku and Sifo-Dyas as a couple in this little spun-up world I’m playing in are going to be rightfully annoyed by them. Not because of the strangeness of a Jedi in an obvious partnership, but because Sifo-Dyas and Dooku are annoying as shit together even when (presumably) they’re NOT sleeping together.
I can’t imagine how much worse sex makes them.
#I really went wide here but you know what I'm like :D#I suspect actually that Padme's comments on the Jedi are straight out of Palpatine's mouth and not necessarily popular conception of Jedi#because he had already zeroed in on Anakin's connection to her as a destabilizing factor#at least my thinking is that Dooku and Sifo-Dyas would very much have to be a long distance relationship if they're balancing Jedi life#so they're together usually only off duty and not needing to be uh professional about things#dooku#sifo dyas
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Barbara Ann's entry in The DC Book of Pride...😭
Rereading WW year one this Shabbat bc EttaBarbDiana are so real and important to me
#dc comics#wonder woman#watch how hard I can CRY#Cheetah#The cheetah#barbara minerva#barbara ann minerva#Barbara ann#Etta candy#Wondercheetah#Ettabarb#Ettabarbdiana#SHE'S MY ANAKIN SKYWALKER YOU WOULDN'T GET IT#Characters who are doomed by the narrative my beloved#The ambiguity dc will always leave on the nature of her relationship with Diana I'm gonna cry#At least we know she did have feelings for Etta#Cloonrad you ate that one thing
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Thoughts on Padmé x Anakin x Rex?
Padmé and Anakin are so mutually obssesed they would first have to check into that before trying to bring another person to their carefully-balanced-kind-of-damage or something it's going to explode.
Honestly it's a fun ship! But I don't have too many thoughts about them because when I consider them is usually in very low-stakes-fun-AU-scenarios.
And I'm actually a bit of a fan of Rexwalker myself! Athough I tend to like them more as very good buddies, the covering-for-you-dynamic it's so funny for them, lol It's also angsty and complicated because, y'know, the power-imbalance and unchecked trauma? Is funny that the clone that's actually a slave for the republic is the most normal if you bring him into the anidala romance circus.
Also shout out to @phoenixyfriend , she has a lot of rexanidala fics and recs for anyone interested reading this!
#I have rexwalker wips somewhere in my endless wips folder although im generally very lazy to draw or care about ships unless i REALLY dig it#which is why you see me mostly drawing anidala despite the fact I do actually have lots of ships i like/consider#anakin is such a strange character he's hard to ship around bc look at him his social circle consists of 4 ppl#and padme's impressive social circle are her coworkers and her decoys#which is impressive bc SW has SO MANY characters lol#also sorry i ramble a lot just to answer 'it's a fun one'#thanks for the ask!#rexanidala#anakin is also such an anxious and intense guy he would need a LOT of talking and reassurance and stuff#bc otherwise he would feel guilty as hell like the three of them could have agreed to it and he probably would feel like he's cheating LOL#the thing with rexanidala which is the most interesting to me to wonder about is how padmé got into rex#she's actually a very closed person and part of the reason she fell for anakin that hard was over mutual trauma bonding#so i wonder i wonderrrr#but also generally the thing with me is that i tend to lean more into non-romantic dynamics and platonic stuff believe it or not#so if you see me doing lots of art for a ship (like anidala) it must be bc i really love them both otherwise i'm more into family or#complicated relationships stuff probably because i'm aroace and a ship must have some incredible complex thing going on for me to care#with rexanidala the biggest brownie points it gets to me is all the AU possibilities the ANGSTY AU possibilities bc it would change A LOT
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Have we, as a fandom, progressed to the point that we can realize that Twilight of the Apprentice, while a good episode, is not a particularly great Rebels episode and is certainly the least functional finale in the entirety of Rebels?
#like I enjoy twilight of the apprentice#but it’s largely focused on the relationship between one recurring character and a villain that is barely in the show#and that relationship is only meaningful in any way if you’ve watched a completely different show#aside from that it only resolves one of the plot threads of the season (inquisitors)#while the others (Hera becoming a leader for the Rebellion Sabine growing toward accepting her past Zeb reconnecting with his people#and finding peace and even chopper becoming a more complex character what with the introduction of his backstory and his newfound ability to#connect to others outside of the Spectres and the Rebellion growing and becoming more structured)#are completely left behind#4/6 of the MAIN CHARACTERS of the ENSEMBLE SHOW do not even appear in the SEASON FINALE#the main villains are unceremoniously killed off not by the efforts of the main characters#but by a completely new guy who you know nothing about if you haven’t watched a different only vaguely connected movie and a slightly more#connected TV show. but even then lots of stuff doesn’t add up because Ahsoka and Maul had never met before when TotA aired#at a lot of points TotA BARELY feels like a Rebels episode and more like a continuation of TCW (the Ahsoka and Vader fights$#it’s a well written episode overall hence how it manages to somehow make this work#but it’s more a resolution to TCW’s Anakin & Ahsoka dynamic than anything else#it’s not really Rebels and it’s certainly not a satisfying finale to most of the season#it just seems like it is because it plays on nostalgia and does have a strong resolution to Ahsoka & Vader#ok hot take for the night! will be watching this episode tomorrow#don’t kill me#star wars#is this the original post tag#rebels#star wars rebels#sw rebels#twilight of the apprentice
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Everybody wanting a tearful Ahsoka/Anakin reunion
COULD NOT BE ME
I want her to have the same energy that Leia did in Legends
She literally put ALL OF HER TRUST in him
And then he played SUCH A HUGE PART in the deaths of Padme, Plo Koon, Barriss Offee, Obi Wan and HER ENTIRE CULTURE
AND EVEN THEN she was still willing to give him a chance
She would've fought TO HER DEATH if Ezra hadn't saved her
She gets to drop kick him into the Sun as far as I'm concerned
#ahsoka tano#anti anakin skywalker#but not actually tho#cause i LOVE his character and relationship with Ahsoka#but part of that is her justifiable FURY towards him for taking away all that she has ever loved#including himself
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Honestly Mace would have loved Luke and Leia with his whole heart.
yes!!! honestly he's like a grandparent (in the dynamic way, not age way) bc he was harsh on anakin but you KNOW he's much more caring for the twins, like how a grandparent is strict on their kid but gives their grandkid literally whatever. and anakin's like where was this for me
#i've never drawn anything for it but i think about AUs where anakin's caught or killed n rots is stopped a lot#and then the jedi take the twins and are Too Careful and the twins just Know theres smthn off abt them but dont know what it is#and all the difficulty padme faces bc the jedi fucked anakin up!! she doesnt want them having her kids!!!! the last she has left of Him!!#but whats she supposed to do about her illegal-kids-of-an-evil-jedi against an ancient order backed by the senate and law#and you have obi wan torn between wanting whats best for the galaxy (the twins are carefully trained)#vs wanting whats best for his friend and tbh his brotherwhatever's memory (padme keeps the twins)#very aggressive jedi vs human conflict for him#theres just SO MUCH in those kinda AUs#bit hard to draw to explain tho. like u gotta draw so much for context so ive never rlly tried#but i think abt mace and his relationship w the twins there sm bc you KNOW he wants to treat them coldly and w constant suspicion#but he Just Can't#cause ya know. their dad. went evil. and theyre also INSANELY POWERFUL force users#thanks for the ask!#wow ok went off in the tags abt an au nobody asked for <3#gotta get it out my head somehow ig
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