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Vito Russo, The Celluloid Closet: Homosexuality in the Movies
#dirk bogarde#the celluloid closet#vito russo#dirk is an excellent screenwriter#the scene he wrote for him and judy garland in I could go on singing was...destructive#I cried my eyeballs out#but that's not the point here#he literally screamed queer rights#Victim#film#homosexuality#sylvia sims#daddy dirk#actor
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All I've seen on the left this election has been a loop of
"I'm not voting Harris cause she's pro-genocide"
"But then you're letting Trump into power! It'll be on you when trans kids die!"
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"I'm voting Harris cause I don't want Hitler Jr in charge again"
"So Palestine doesn't matter to you? Someone finally showed their true colors!"
I feel like we're saying the same things here. Some coordination would be nice, people.
#seriously I've seen so many âso Palestine doesn't matter to youâ comments under like mattxiv posts even though he talks about it often#and then there's the blaming pocs and queer folks like âyou're letting your greedy want for rights get in the way of true justiceâ#and not to mention the antisemitism that's come from a lot of folks#but then on the other side there's more blaming pocs/queers with the âit will be your fault when your rights are stripped awayâ#and there's the folks that act like voting stein is gonna âdestroy the electoral college and free us of the 2 party systemâ#like sweetie what world are you living in where it's that simple#personally as a punk i agree with sticking to your guns and i also believe there are more than one fucking cause to fight for#like i voted for Harris but I'm not pro genocide. only one of those two is gonna be president and id prefer the one we can actually#put pressure on. like push comes to shove kamala is a Democrat and a coward. she's gonna do whatever to get votes which means we can push#no tags this is a personal rant#I'm so tired of seeing people scream âFUCK THE SYSTEMâ and completely misunderstand what fucking the system actually entails#like punk isn't just doing the opposite of what you're told. it's taking care of people. which means not being racist towards people who dis#disagree. like im not a Boomer whos all âback in my day we could be friends despite our differencesâ#but i think we're so busy attacking each other the literal Nazis become a secondary thought to our hatred towards other people with the sa#same goal. we're all trying to save lives. lives republicans are trying to destroy. lets get our heads out of our asses for five minutes#accidenti
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mirrors in velvet goldmine (1998)
#velvet goldmine#film#alright here comes the analysis#i think these are most (but not all) of the mirror scenes in this film#AND AAAAAAA to me thereâs such a clear link between the expression of identity and whatever is being shown in the mirror at a time!!!#i wrote about this in the masterdoc (đ)#but okay okay we get jack fairy with the small mirror (concise and small but effective and so unapologetically him!?!)#which - to me - is a perfect expression of how jack fairyâs identity is portrayed in the film#relatively minimal but also central to the formation of everyone elseâs identities#speaking of other peopleâs identitiessss#BRIAN SLADE COMING OUT FROM BEHIND THE DOOR THROUGH THE MIRROR AND MAKING THE LINK BETWEEN HIM AND JACK BY STEALING A PIECE OF HIS IDENTITY#screams#and arthur :(#curtâs little coat-mirror shot being right next to a slade poster because!!! what else would he be basing his own image and identity on!!!#and CURTS REFLECTION BEING LITERALLY SPLIT (and wavering!!) DURING THE SCENE WHEN HIS DAD IS BEING HOMOPHOBIC BECAUSE#THE SAFE SPACE OF HIS QUEER IDENTITY IS BEING SHAKEN BY THE UNDUE SHAME PUT ON HIM#aaaaaAAAAAAAA#and then of course#the teeenagers in the wonky mirror#showing the malleable nature of their identites and this point in their lives#donât get me started on the brian slade three-split-reflections moment#which is a publicity still i think?? because i cannot seem to remember it in the film#but i think. just. the clear dichotomy between tommy and brian and maxwell. i#i have so many thoughts#my document is 30 pages long and growing#update: SO NOBODY WAS GONNA TELL ME HOW MANY TIMES I WROTE CURT IN THE TAGS WHEN I MEANT ARTHUR!!!#im so embarrassed right now.
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#right so#firstly: oliver stark i love you please never stop#the way he talks about buck is so nice!! not to mention always reiterating that the show was queer before bi buck was confirmed#secondly: oliver stark i love you but please stop!!!#lmao. ben affleck smoking jpeg#i completely understand his reasoning behind what he says about tommy#he canât confirm or deny anything and changes are he doesnât even know anything. just like before#when he was waxing poetic about natalia and buckâs future#i just do not like the whole narrative of tommy being a perfect queer elder who can do no wrong and is there to guide buck through this#itâs a disservice to his character. and to buckâs#and to eddieâs if you really wanna go there#tommy is the perfect first boyfriend because heâs got experience. right? thatâs what weâre saying?#experience does not equal perfection#and like i said the other day. it suggests eddie is not worthy of being a queer love yet because he has no experience#they hadnât written the final episodes yet for a reason. theyâre posting positive b/t posts on social media for a reason#theyâre testing fan reactions to decide what to do with b/t. sorry but i genuinely think thatâs the reason#and this characterisation of tommy as perfect and ideal for buck and theyâre smitten etc#a second ben affleck smoking jpeg#i have nothing against tommy or b/t together or multi shippers. nothing at all#but i sweaaarrrrrr#if i lose out on the ship who have 6 years friendship and a history of getting through neg and pos experiences together#coparenting and saving each othersâ lives. literally and figuratively#being so intrinsically linked to each other#not to mention oliver and ryanâs chemistry#if i lose out on that because people canât stop screaming about tommy on social media#i will implode and take this place with me#especially because focusing on buckâs lovely new perfect relationship will probably mean that eddie is pushed aside#with a shitty storyline they put no effort into. wait what who said that thatâs crazy#i agree that bi buck isnât about eddie (itâs not about tommy either) and potential queer eddie isnât about buck#but iâm so done with people saying we canât hope the two storylines come together in the future. why is it suddenly bad to want buddie
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Project 2025 would ban anything the far right considers pornography. The far right considers anything queer-positive to be pornography, and they WILL encode that into law if given just a TINY bit more power.
Have queer fanfic (or trad published literature) or pics of your transition, or of two men kissing, saved to your hard drive? If the GOP get their way, you'd be guilty of possession of pornography. Did you share any of it? You'd be guilty of distribution of pornography. Have a sweet coming of age story with a queer protagonist? That'd be child pornography.
Even now, states are trying to make it a crime to be openly queer in public (by, among other things, classifying dressing as the "wrong gender" anyplace kids might see as a sex crime against children). Oh, and Florida tried (and thankfully failed) to impose the death penalty for the above.
This is just one example of the horrors awaiting us if the project comes to fruition.
And the far right is already screaming that any adult who mentions around kids that queer people exist is "grooming" children. Wear your Pride shirt past a playground? You're now a child groomer. Think they won't put that into law if allowed? You're naive.
The GOP currently controls the Supreme Court (which is how they overturned Roe v. Wade) and has a majority in one branch of congress. Imagine what will happen nationwide with the GOP controlling every branch of government, including supermajoroties in both houses of Congress.
Oh, and top GOP officials have also announced their desire to NUKE Gaza, so don't come at me with, "but I can't vote blue because Biden..." Or tell me how you think Gaza would somehow be better off with Trump and the GOP.
In France, the left and center joined together--even though they disagree vehemently on many issues (get two leftists together and they'll have three positions on any issue)--to stop the far right from totally taking over, because the one thing they ALL agree on is that fascists dictatorships are BAD.
Much the same with the UK finally kicking out their own neo-fascist party, the Torries, to install 400 Labour MPs. Not everyone loves Labour's policies, but virtually everyone with a brain cell recognizes that the Torries are fascists, and that FASCISM BAD.
"Every election, they tell us this is the most important election if our lives!" Yeah, because each election over the past several decades has been more important than the one before, until we are now at a tipping point between remaining a fucked up oligarchy with SOME resemblance to freedom, and an outright neo-fascist military dictatorship.
Trump has literally stated publicly his intent to criminalize dissent, use US armed forces against protesters (Kent State, but multiply it by thousands), purge all agencies and stuff them with those personally loyal to him, and use the DOJ to go after anyone he perceives as a threat to his political power, among other things.
And remember the things he did in office, like pulling the teeth of federal workplace protections for queer folks (which Biden reatored).
I don't care if you don't like Biden or Harris. Neither do I. But the alternative is Trump, and anyone telling you not to vote in 2024, or to vote third party, is rooting for Trump, and for Project 2025. Anyone telling you not to vote does not give one single solitary flying fuck about vulnerable populations in the US or anywhere else in the world.
"You're just being an alarmist!" Right. Like I was being alarmist when I predicted the failed Jan 6 coup attempt. Like I was being alarmist when I said the GOP would try to use control over SCOTUS to overturn Roe v. Wade.
Fucking vote.
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Thank you, and to add some tinfoil-hat theory, anyone that feels cheated by the ending they got? It's because of the explicit bi erasure. You're mad? This is just another Wednesday for me. This is why i dont hate the ending - they made people *mad* the bi characters died, rather than casually accept that their deaths were inevitable as so many shows, including this one (as a *commentary* - more on that later), have done.
Season 15 (and most seasons, I would argue) is a meta-mirror of the real world, the writers explicitly likened Chuck to a network executive for a reason, and they wrote the Destiel arc to be so central to the plot, that the only way to end it was to fulfill the romantic arc and canonize the bisexual love in the room, or kill them, and the network had to choose - the writers didn't kill Dean and Cas, they gave the network a choice, and based on *market research* (see: the American public), most people would rather see a dead bisexual than a happy one, and that's how the writers attempted to make up for all the queerbaiting and homophobic nonsense we had to endure for 15 seasons - showing everyone their own ass, i mean, isnt this what they asked for?
We can joke about how it's a show that doesn't take itself seriously, but plenty of these writers had been working on this show for years, they loved these characters - if we watch their last season, deadly seriously, they have given us a pretty damning social commentary on the state of corporate/network censorship seizing control of our own narratives from us.
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ok but where are my fellow bisexual castiel truthers huh where are my bi4bi deancas siblings in arms huh where are my cas-is-gay-but-as-in-the-umbrella-term people HUH WHERE ARE Y'ALL WHERE
#They weren't perfect#and I'll agree we got some shit writing from time to time#but I'm so sick of âfansâ hating on the show#and it was definitely hard to accept s15 but the second go around is so much clearer#they are *screaming* at us to read btwn the lines and hear what theyre saying#it's a genuine fight to complete their story arc with a canonical romance *and* an apology for failing to defeat the network *and*#poison in the network well#they really told deans story well and died with a gun in their hand#and while thats a badass way to go that was never the way they *wanted* it to end#for them or dean or cas.#chuck won#and it's hardly subtext#spn tag rant#>?[#i mean cmon chuck literally calls his other universes âfailed draftsâ and doesn't toss them like a writer would *ever* treat their own work#he treats them like an executive shoots down compelling and impactful writing for mass appeal regardless of quality#they couldve made history and chose the most *boring* ending#also intentional on the writers part to have the confession scene (all hail berens) completely blow the finale out of the water#sure blame covid all you want but I'd bet money the writers room wanted the confession to be the send-off and not give the network#a satisfying ending after so cruelly ending one of the most lovingly written relationships on the show#look how jensen talks about dean#you think the writers don't also love him to bits and hate how his story ended just as it began?#cas and Dean's death made a *real-life* impact exceeding their own universe and stretching into ours#asking us to take control of our own narratives even though they could not escape the one chosen for them#as dean says#there is a right and there is a wrong here and you know it#their ending was *wrong*#it was terrible for the characters writers actors fans and bi/queer rep#these characters were defined by their commitment to getting off the hamster wheel (dean nearly *loses himself* in desperation to be free#and we still got a dead bi and a widowed one that could never live the life he wanted w/o him
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You know, to get political for a second.
It hasn't escaped my notice that every time someone brings up the presidential election. There is ALWAYS an early 20-somethings queer person in the comments or replies going on and on about how Biden won't help Palestine, about how Biden is doing a genocide, about how "Israel this and that" and like...
You're all fucking idiots for falling for this. You are. Because those people saying that shit are either the morons we see protesting who can't answer which river and which sea they're screaming about or who don't know what Hamas' charter says, OR they're the same fucking bots who appeared all over tumblr back before the 2016 election to try and convince all of us, using the hot political topics at the time, not to vote Dem. Because they had a vested interest in us not voting Dem.
And just to speak on the whole Palestine thing here... Do you really thing. That Trump. The racist fascist who openly wants to be a dictator. Who is buddy-buddy with Netanyahu, the other racist fascist who wants to be a dictator. Is going to do anything other than give Bibi the fucking green light to do anything he wants? If you think that Trump is going to be better for your "Pro-Palestine" movement (which, btw, is in quotes because the vast majority of the idiots supporting it don't know jack shit about what's going on and don't actually care about the Palestinian people, seeing as they have a habit of cheering for the terrorist organization that uses them as human shields, steals their money and aid for their own devices, and they have a lovely habit of attacking actual Palestinian peace activists who call them on it and ignoring what they say they actually need so...) than Biden? You're out of your fucking mind.
Holy shit I am not going to sit here and watch people fall for the same BS they did back in 2016. Israel and Palestine is the hot-button topic right now. Every time you see someone talking about how Trump has promised to roll back all the protections that the Biden/Harris admin has put in place, every time you see someone pointing out that the Republicans LITERALLY have a plan to fucking turn our country into an Evangelical hellscape, there is some fucking numbnuts in the notes, probably with a pride flag in their bio, wailing about "Genocide Joe".
And you all need to ask yourself why the hell there are all of these nearly-identical blogs. All doing the exact same thing every time someone tries to point out that another Trump term would see people literally dead and our country fucking torn apart, possibly forever. Use your fucking brains.
#politics#i/p#us politics#FUCKING YOU'RE ALL MORONS I SWEAR HOLY SHIT#this is the same stuff that happened in 2016 wtf is wrong with you
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Shounen was written for young boys to help them to get stronger and find a purpose in life, thats why most shounen series end up in marriage and having kids. Japan's birth rates are dropping each year and you guys want to see Deku and Bakugou end up together instead of Deku and Ochaco getting married and having kids? The stories and media we consume has to match the standards of real life you know.
Wow⌠this is a lot to unpack. A normal person would just ignore this, but lucky for you, Iâm a bitch when I wanna be, and I happen to have time on my hands right now.
1) âShonen was written for young boys to help them to get stronger and find a purpose in lifeâ
Shonen is literally just a genre that directly translates to âyoung men.â But I think youâre trying to define the meaning of story telling as a whole, and even still, thatâs a very narrow way to view an entire genre.
Stories meant for young men, most of the time, are meant for entertainment. You have animeâs like Dragon Ball and Naruto thatâs almost nothing but action scene after action scene with very little thought provoking plot, because at the time, they were written for young boys. Like, they were aired on childrenâs channels back in the day, young boys. And while I wonât deny that there are definitely some good lessons in both (I canât speak much because I never finished Naruto and only got about 20 episodes into dbz) theyâre not meant to make a boy âstronger.â Lessons in early shonen were meant to broaden world views and increase emotional intelligence in a way thatâs easy to understand. I guess it depends on your definition of what strength is, but I feel like strength is built from personal experiences, not watching an anime.
That being said though, the shonen/young boys genre has evolved over the years in the east and the west. Jujutsu Kaisen, Chainsaw Man, and Attack on Titan, are all shonens, with aot being also classified as a seinen. Those are most definitely not meant for the same age group that Dragon Ball and Naruto and One Piece were written for, given the amount of gore and heavier themes presented. Now, thatâs not me looking down upon those stories at all, thatâs me pointing out the obvious difference in tone, despite them being classified as the same.
As the genre evolved, authors approaches have also evolved. Literally read any interview from any modern shonen author and youâll see how unserious they are when it comes to their own stories. Gege didnât even like writing his story past a certain point and was just trying to push through it, because it wasnât the story he originally wanted to write. Horikoshi has always said he just wanted to tell a story with no real goal towards the audience. Chainsaw Man is literally about a guy wanting to touch some boobs??? What about any of that screams, âIâm writing this to raise the new generation of young boys into strong husbands and fathers who know their purpose in life!â
Shonen as a whole has grown into a genre meant for young adults, with heavier themes and becoming increasingly more political. Itâs not the same genre it used to be, and trying to say that it is, isnât fair and is lowkey insulting towards authors with a more progressive world view.
2) âJapanâs birth rates are dropping each year and you guys want to see Deku and Bakugou get together instead of Deku and Ochaco getting married and having kids?â
Yeah⌠youâre right. Iâd rather see a well written relationship come to fruition than watch another male author completely disrespect their female lead and ripping away her development. Why the fuck would I, an infertile acespec queer person, give a fuck about using two fictional characters to inspire young people to get married and start a nuclear familyâŚ
Also the birth rates are dropping all over the world, donât pretend itâs only a Japanese issue. In Asia specifically, the birth rate is going down because women are tired of menâs shit and refuse to bare their children, and Iâm actually happy as fuck that other parts of the world are following in their footsteps.
Women have been treated like shit in every corner of the world for so fucking long, and we all just dealt with it because thatâs what we all thought we were supposed to do. Itâs about fucking time we actually put our foots down and protest in the ways that we can, which is practicing our rights to autonomy. Why tf should we be responsible to bear the children of men most of us barely even like? And why is having children a mans responsibility, when women are the ones who have to carry the babies? Besides, why the fuck would anyone want to bring a kid into the shit show that is the world right now?
Weâre over populated, have a really fucked up consumption and capitalism problem which causes us to depend on disgustingly unethical ways to find resources to appease everyone, thereâs fucking flowers blooming in the arctics, thereâs several genocides happening in the world as a result of neglectful and corrupt governments, a literal ethnic cleansing happening, and a carton of eggs costs 12 fucking dollars while the minimum wage stays at only $7.25 and the cost of living isnât affordable unless youâre making nearly triple the minimum wage. I donât even wanna be subjected to this shit and Iâll be damned before I subject a child to it against their will. Most of us canât even afford to take care of ourselves without our parents help right now.
Also, what does a gay pairing have to do with the birth rate at all? Is Deku gonna carry that baby? Or are you seriously just narrowing down Ochaco to nothing more than his incubator? If Ochaco decides to have kids one day, why should it have to be with Deku? Oh and I hate to break it to you, but Ochaco becoming a mother isnât going to solve any of the issues you presented.
3) âThe stories and media we consume has to match the standards of real life you knowâ
âŚyouâre talking about a story where one of the background characters has a god damn spray bottle for a headâŚ
Itâs fiction. Superhero media, at that. None of it has to follow the ârulesâ of real life, and most of the time, this kind of media does the exact opposite of following societal norms. And you thinking otherwise probably made Stan Lee roll in his grave.
Also, whatâre your standards for real life? Because everyoneâs standards are different. If yours is to get married and live in a traditional household with five kids and one source of income in this economy, then I think youâre the one being unrealistic here.
We shouldnât burden children with adult responsibilities. Having kids and being a âgood husbandâ isnât something a child should have to think about until theyâre older and only if they want to. Believe it or not, not everyoneâs goal is to get married and produce offspring. We should be encouraging children to do the things they like doing without having to worry about adult shit yet. Not indoctrinating them into believing that the only way for them to be a successful adult, is if they have kids.
Using shonen and other conformative media that is dead set on maintaining the status quo to brainwash kids into wanting to be parents before they even know how babies are made, is weird. Donât be weird, anon. You sound like one of those âalpha malesâ with a red pill podcast, convincing young men that crypto scams are a perfectly ethical way to make quick cash.
Literally just say youâre a misogynist, and move on. And get tf out of my inbox.
P.S.
You know gay men exist in real life, right? Youâre talking as if gay men arenât real. Not only are they real, but they also have nothing to do with the birth rate dropping. Find something else to be mad about.
#anon hate#bakudeku#bkdk#itâs funny cuz I barely even talked about them#even tho anon was hating on them#everything else astounded me too much#midoriya izuku#bnha#bakugou katsuki#puff speaks#ask puff#puff answers#ochaco uraraka#uraraka ochako#youâre giving me Logan Paul vibes pls get away from me#not every story has to end with a guy winning a girl at the end#and Iâm getting tired of repeating myself#ew I canât believe I gave you the satisfaction of genuinely pissing me off
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Genuinely confused by the people who are confused that Venom: The Last Dance didn't end with Eddie and Venom making out/fucking nasty/screaming their love for each other from the roof tops.
Disclaimer: All of this is my opinion. Your feelings about the movie are valid. Just as mine are. We cool? Okay.
Guys. Venom sacrificed himself so that Eddie could live. Eddie was ready to die with him. Venom admitted to Eddie in the previous film that he loves him. Eddie is torn apart that Venom is gone. He literally says he needs Venom. Eddie goes to the Statue of Liberty for Venom. He makes a vow to never forget Venom.
I don't know what expectations some of you went into this movie with, but I don't view these films as queer bait. As a long time Venom and Symbrock fan, I left Venom: The Last Dance feeling very bittersweet but ultimately happy. The ending to me was like a love letter to a dearly beloved that is no longer around.
(Yes, the montage was cheesy. Yes, I loved it anyway. Sue me).
Maybe it's just my greysexual ass speaking, but I viewed this movie as a tragic love story. I didn't need to see Eddie and Venom making out to know they loved each other. To me, Venom sacrificing himself and Eddie whispering "Buddy?" only to be devastated when he realizes Venom is truly gone-that shit right there is love.
If you needed Sony to make their relationship even more explicitly obvious in an even more overt way so that the straights in the back can finally admit they see what we see, I'm sorry you didn't get that.
As for me, I'm content with what we got. I've read the comics, I know Symbrock is canon. I don't need an explicit scene of them fucking. And I don't need a straight person to validate what I already know.
#dreamer talks#venom 3#venom 3 spoilers#venom the last dance#venom the last dance spoilers#you're still valid if you didn't like the movie#I just think some of y'all might have had#some extremely high expectations#that were never going to happen#but hey#that's what the comics and AO3 are for ;)#symbrock
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Midnight Pals: Moonflow
Bitter Karella: hello, fellow esteemed authors! King: wow it's bitter karella! Lovecraft: bitter karella! Koontz: WOW bitter karella! Poe: OMG it's THE bitter karella! Barker: Barker: what the fuck is wrong with you guys
Karella: yes it's me, bitter karella, beloved bon vivant, gadabout and real author Barker: well, i've never heard of you Karella: Barker: wait did i say that? i meant to say bitter karella is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being Iâve ever known in my life
Karella: [sitting backward on chair] you know me as a very cool & also good-looking goblin Karella: but i'm also the author of such luminary works as The Ballad of Horse Girl in Split Scream 5 (currently available from Tenebrous Press) and Moonflow (coming soon from Orbit US!)
Poe: i see you're wearing an "Ask me about Moonflow" badge Karella: You mean the latest masterpiece of horror storytelling from Orbit's⢠Bitter Karella� Why it's an extraordinary adventure with an interface of eldritch folk horror, queer squelchcore splatterpunk and raccoons!
Karella: Not to mention a psychedelic fantasmagoria of mushroom trips, terf cults, cop eugenics, fat sex, AND elegant point 'n' click control of characters, objects, and magic spells! Karella: Beat the rush! Go out and buy Moonflow⢠today!
Karella: Moonflow has something for everyone! Scary forests! Mysterious gods! Gallons of blood! Exploding heads! Karella: and don't think i forgot about you ladies Karella: there's also multiple lesbian orgies
Poe: wow! Moonflow sounds incredible! i can't wait to read it! Koontz: what was that name again? i forgot Karella: it's Moonflow! And you'll have to wait Karella: CUZ IT'S NOT COMING OUT TIL FALL 2025!!!
Karella: yo yo yo they call me bitter karella Karella: i'm half joe camel and third Fonzarella! Karella: i'm a real cool goblin & i'm here to say Karella: i love reading Moonflow in a major way! Poe: wow that bitter karella is one outrageous dude! Koontz: he's totally in my face!
Mary Shelley: [reading cue card] "sup fuckers" Shelley: "are you ready for a nerd-shivvingly good time reading moonflow" Barker: [reading cue card] "i can't think of anything cooler than buying & reading bitter karella's moonflow" Poe: Barker: edgar Barker: edgar that's your cue
Poe: what? oh wait Poe: wait i've got it, i've got it Poe: uhhhh Poe: line? Barker: Barker: you're supposed to say "clive" Poe: right right "clive" of course Barker: like you always do Barker: it's literally your thing
What's this all about? IT'S ABOUT THIS!!
#midnight pals#the midnight society#midnight society#stephen king#clive barker#edgar allan poe#dean koontz#hp lovecraft#mary shelley#bitter karella
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my buddie going canon ideal scenario and why it could happen before eddie fully realises heâs gay
iâve been cooking up this scenario for a while now but before going into it i wanna clarify that i donât think eddieâs homosexuality is tied to buck and just that. i could write a full essay about eddieâs queerness without even mentioning buck. HOWEVER i do think buck could be the key to eddieâs discovery, the last puzzle piece that makes it all make sense.
narratively speaking, i think it could be interesting to see buck and eddie get to the same conclusion (that theyâre in love with each other) but in the complete opposite way. while for buck itâs oh shit iâm bi > oh shit iâm in love with eddie, for eddie it would be oh shit iâm in love with buck > oh shit iâm gay. and obviously eddie is starting his own journey just now, so he might realise heâs gay and then it could click for him that all heâs been looking for was there all along, but i do think that - since this is a tv show - it would be interesting to offer a different side of the story to the audience. and yes i know that buckâs queerness and eddieâs queerness are very different already, but iâm specifically referring to their storylines leading up to buddie. (also this is just a personal side note but i think i would be lowkey crazy to have both of them realise theyâre queer and still not understand their feelings for each other, like i know theyâre dumb and dumber but câmon!!!)
ok so now letâs put on the tinfoil hat
we literally know nothing about whatâs gonna happen in the next episodes so i donât have any solid theory on how we could get to this scenario. some of the interviews were teasing some potential tension (or angst even) between buck and eddie so my brain took this information and ran with it. a lot of us were also theorising a nde for buck, for eddie or for both of them at the same time and that could also be the setup for what iâm thinking.
but first letâs analyse where buck and eddie are right now (and in the upcoming episodes)
buck was just broken up with so now heâs trying to explore his sexuality and understand it more. it feels like the search for âhis lastâ has just started and heâs excited to look at relationships and love through a new lens, but he also might feel a little discouraged that he has to do it all over again. he might be thinking ânow that i have all these new possibilities, why is it still so hard to find my person?â (average bisexual experience i will tell you that much).
eddie on the other hand is slowly trying to forgive himself and love himself, accepting joy and not pushing away his desires and needs. allowing himself to feel certain feelings and just let go. heâs taking small steps to show up for himself just like he does for his loved ones every day (we still donât know how far theyâre gonna go with his story so the next episodes are definitely gonna be interesting)
so, with all that being said, hereâs how buddie could go canon:
itâs late and buck shows up at eddieâs house. theyâre in the kitchen drinking a beer, both leaning on the counter and not looking at each other at first. something has happened between them that they need to clear up (could be an argument, a fight or some very important words exchanged when they thought they were about to lose the other).
as much as i love a âbecause i love you!!â screamed during an argument, i donât see that happening in this scenario. i imagine them having the softest, most honest and open conversation where they lay it all out - without even realising what theyâre doing. at some point, buck is gonna say something that will make it finally click for eddie. if itâs an argument he could say something like âi need you in my lifeâ/âi want you in my life foreverâ, or if this happens after a nde he could say âi canât imagine my life without youâ/âi donât know how i could live without youâ (iâm not a writer but you get the gist lol)
and thatâs when eddie finally allows himself to feel what deep down heâs been feeling for years, and so he leans over and kisses buck. the kiss is pretty short: eddie pulls away almost immediately, as if his body was possessed by something and he just snapped out of it. buck canât believe what just happened, but it takes him just a few seconds to realise and to grab eddieâs face and kiss him back. they start making out, they go out of frame, the screen turns black, the episode is over.
now letâs talk about the aftermath of the kiss. because if we know 911 we know that this goddamn show canât let people just be happy so of course thereâs gonna be some angst and miscommunication.
after the kiss, they donât really talk about it. they might even get interrupted by something else (maybe eddie has to go to texas to get chris back?) so they have to postpone the what the fuck just happened conversation. and thatâs when both of them start to spiral, but for different reasons. buck of course thinks that eddieâs distance means that he regretted the kiss, that they got caught up in the moment but that he doesnât feel that way about him and he basically ruined their friendship. eddie is also freaking the fuck out: heâs panicking about how they could make their relationship work, how they could tell christopher, heâs questioning literally his whole life and past relationships like oh my god have i been gay this whole fucking time??, heâs worried about their jobs, how theyâre gonna tell bobby and the others. basically questioning everything but buck.
being the idiots that they are, theyâre gonna convince themselves that the other regretted everything and theyâre gonna avoid each other and never have that much needed conversation. the 118 obviously notices that something is off, but no one knows what it is. until hen and eddie finally talk and he tells her everything: what happened, what made him panic and doubt everything and whatâs stopping him from talking to buck. hen is shocked but not necessarily surprised. her and karen look at eachother (yes karen is there too because of eddiekaren bestfriendism that is very real to me) and then hen says something like âi donât have the answers to all of these questions, but iâm sure of one thing: you love him and he loves you. you can figure out the rest together. go talk to himâ (i think it would be nice for eddie to have this conversation with henren as a couple, since his biggest fears and concerns are about how they could make the relationship work)
eddie feels like he just woke up from a 20+ year long sleep. he runs out of henâs place, hurrying to his car, and from now iâm picturing a full romcom montage with him just fighting for his life to get to buckâs apartment: traffic, construction work so he has to take a detour, his shirt is drenched in sweat so he has to go back home to change because surely he canât show up at buckâs looking like that. once he gets home, he sprints to his room to find a new shirt (maybe he puts on too much cologne - the one buck likes - and he has to change again. just because it would be fun to see him in distress). he fixes his hair for the 100th time, grabs his keys, finally opens the front door and stops in disbelief. buck is on his doorstep, hand mid-air about to knock. they look at each other and in that moment they just know. they both lean in and go for the kiss aaand BUDDIE CANON !!!! (+ the buck at eddieâs door parallel finally having the romcom resolution it always meant to have)
of course i have no clue how we could get there, but i do feel like it would be true to the show if they didnât immediately get together and if there was some angst between them. i hope that once they get together they wonât try to break them up (even just temporarily) so they might have to go through some shit at the very beginning of their relationship for that to happen.
alright tinfoil hat OFF folks. i always try to stay consistent to the show and only come up with theories that i could truly see being developed and i donât think any of this is unrealistic. buuut iâm still a clown so who knows. quite frankly iâm fine with buddie canon either way (as long as their first kiss is initiated by eddie and it happens in his kitchen <3)
#buddie#buck and eddie#buck x eddie#911 spoilers#911 show#911 season 8#buddie canon#911 theories#9 1 1#911 abc#911#evan buckley#eddie diaz#gay eddie diaz#bi evan buckley#911 confessions#911 s8#911 fanfic#911 eddie#911 buck#911 buddie#iâm obsessed with the idea of eddie questioning everything BUT buck#like he panics about a million thinks but he never doubts that he has found his person#*things ffs#while buck is obviously blaming himself for ruining everything#miscommunication trope i hate and love you !!!#also i fear i was projecting when i said that buck might feel shitty about not finding the one after realising heâs bi#as a perpetual bitcheless bisexual i feel this deeply
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last but most certainly not least. pt 3 of the bonus chapters (TKM)
Aaron's chapter (once again going to be putting like. the whole thing here.)
One of these days Aaron would love to know what about that mouthy liar had people bending over backwards for him [...] He could waste his time being angry, or he could go the tried-and-true Minyard route of infuriating everyone else around him.
i love how much he despises neil fr. and the Minyard route???? i love that
"Hey, Bee," Aaron said.
why did this like. give me such nathaniel neil vibes. hes so cunty for this im obsessed
Andrew looked relaxed where he was tucked into the corner of the couch, one knee hugged loosely to his chest, but Aaron wasn't fooled. They were twins: there was too much of them in each other despite all the years they'd spent apart.
one) andrew is so cosy <333 two) ouch. THERE WAS TOO MUCH OF THEM IN EACH OTHER DESPITE ALL THE YEARS THEY'D SPENT APART????? literally screaming into a pillow at this one
"Did you know Andrew's fucking Neil?" [...] Andrew cut in with a flat, "I'm not." Andrew wouldn't waste his breath lying when Aaron was right here to argue with him, but Aaron knew his accusation wasn't far off the mark. [...] That Andrew hadn't sealed the deal yet was the least important detail, but Aaron was willing to be an ass about it.
I love that andrew is banking on the technicality that like. no he's not. they haven't. and aaron saying andrew hadn't "sealed the deal" has me SCREAMING. thats so funny
"Go slash some tires, or whatever it is you do for fun."
HES SO FUNNYYY
"You made him a priority," Aaron said. "[...] but for the record, I think he's an insufferable asshole. [...] Exy this, Exy that, get a fucking hobby. Oh, but i guess he did?" He sent a pointed look at Andrew.
GET A FUCKING HOBBY. aaron minyard i'd die for you.
"You know, I asked him about you. I asked him if he was taking advantage of you. He tried to punch me out." "You bring out that urge in people," Andrew said.
i'm so glad that we know now that andrew knows about this interaction. like i wonder how he felt hearing that.
"Betsy and I were talking about Monday." [...] Andrew hadn't called her "Betsy" in over a year. He'd never seen Andrew so hard on a back foot, and it was as terrifying as it was thrilling. [...] Andrew didn't want to talk about Neil with Dobson because once he broached that subject he either had to lie to all of them or admit Neil was more important that he wanted him to be.
throwing up, literally no words just throwing up
"I like Neil's promise ring, by the way."
AARONNNNN. HIS PROMISE RING. PLEASE. and also the "Matching set, very cute." why is he so funny
Andrew's smile was all ice, and he wielded honesty like a knife. "They're not decorative, you ignorant little shit. Someone like you wouldn't understand the importance of hiding scars." [...] Aaron would have to figure it out later, but not now. Andrew was trying to pull him off track and [...] he'd never find his way back if he followed it to whatever ugly truth Andrew was hiding. He forced Andrew words aside to haunt him later
this just made me wonder if there's every going to be a moment where aaron figures out what this means. like. my stomach feels sick thinking about it just him having this moment where it clicks and makes sense and he realises what andrew's hiding and will they ever be able to have that conversation?????
"It bother you your pet project is queer?"
AARON
"I'm not always okay with what he is, but these days it's less that he's gay it's that he's [...] weaponized it. It took him so long to come to terms with it that now he lashes out first, pushing as hard as he can to figure out who's safe and who isn't."
nicky baby :(( why does this make me so sad
"I don't care that you're gay, and I don't care that you picked the literal most irritating person on the planet to fall for. I care that you're being a hypocrite."
Aaron Minyard #1 neil josten hater.
Andrew was picking idly at his jeans: an agitated tic that had mostly disappeared once his medicine was out of his system. [...] Maybe he needed a few more moments to come to terms with their easy acceptance. [...] Finding out how important he was to Andrew was an ongoing, eye-opening experience. Finding out just how important Dobson was, that Andrew wouldn't risk her unfavourable opinion by telling her the truth about his sexuality, was equally fascinating. [...] She truly mattered to Andrew when so few people did anymore.
once again andrew :((( my boy :((( why am i crying
"I love Katelyn. I love her more than anything. I want to spend the rest of my life with her, but I am trying so goddamned hard to wait until graduation because you asked me to. So why aren't you doing the same?" "You have abysmal taste in girls," Andrew told him.
KATEAARON YOU WILL ALWAYS BE FAMOUS TO MEEE
"Neurosurgeon, right?" [...] He and [his mother] had been watching a medical drama with dinner while Andrew hovered silent and distant in the doorway, and Aaron had foolishly said, I want to do that. His mother laughed him out of the room for daring to think he could make anything of himself."
one) andrew talking about aaron to bee two) andrew being the only person who remembered or knew he wanted to be a neurosurgeon three) his mom laughing at him :(( for daring the think he could make anything of himself???? what the fuck and also andrew signing to the team for aaron's sake to get him through college to follow his dreams??? sobbing
"I'm trying, okay? I'm trying. Years too late, I know, but you refused me first. I begged you to come home with me. You can't blame me for not trusting you." "I am capable of multitasking," Andrew said. Aaron heard what he didn't say: I blame us both.
SDHFGAOLFGAJRDHGJDF
"She's just another tiny skirt here to use him up and distract him from what he wants."
ANDREW
"My hands are full with too many idiots," Andrew said. "When she shows her true colors, I will not have the energy to put him together again."
one) liar. i know you'd go to the ends of the earth again and again and again for him. two) TOO MANY IDIOTS
"You can't be brothers while you are each other's jailors."
:D screaming
"Says the man dating a mafioso." "I'm not dating him," Andrew said, with a hint of impatience. Aaron saw right through him, and it was enough to make him smile as he turned his gaze out the window. "Liar."
sobbing. they love each other so much and Andrew is such a liar and i can't deal with them. they kill me
#aftg bonus chapters#aftg bonus content#aftg bonus chapters spoilers#aftg spoilers#aftg bonus content spoilers#mine
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how do you have so much faith in buddie after that episode? i just feel like the show just told us buddie won't happen but buck will be with a guy(maybe not tommy) but some other random ass guy.
Because:
"You can have my back any day." "Or you could have mine."
Buck taking Eddie to collect Christopher after the earthquake
Buck recognising that Eddie needs support, and finding Carla for him
"You two have an adorable son."
Buck and Christopher in the tsunami
Buck telling Eddie that he lost Christopher
Eddie literally coming to the loft and reassuring him that he trusts Buck more than anyone in the world
The lawsuit breakup and reconciliation
"Wanna go for the title?"
Ana says Christopher shouldn't skateboard, so Buck finds a way to build him a skateboard.
Eddie gets trapped at the bottom of a collapsed well, and Buck CLAWS AT THE DIRT SCREAMING FOR HIM (aka the television moment that changed my life forever)
Abby comes back, and Eddie is RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE of it.
Buck going out of his way to buy Eddie the coffee machine he secretly wants
Buck Begins, where Eddie spends the entirety reassuring Buck.
Eddie starts dating Ana, so Buck starts dating again (because one can't date without the other panic dating as well)
Eddie gets shot in the street and Buck is literally splattered with his blood
Buck crawling under the firetruck to save Eddie's life
Buck having to tell Christopher that Eddie was hurt
Buck RACING TO THE HOSPITAL WHEN EDDIE WAKES UP - oh Ana is there? No she doesn't matter, Buck is the one that matters
Eddie telling Buck that he isn't expendable and confessing that he changed his Will so Buck would be Christopher's guardian
Ana being mistaken as Christopher's mother and Eddie subsequently having a panic attack about it
Buck recognising that Eddie wasn't in love with Ana and essentially guiding him into breaking up with her
Leading to the most queer-coded breakup in the history of television. "The idea of us??" Eddie
The hostage situation; the gun going off and Buck thinking that Eddie is hurt
Depression era Eddie, and Buck literally breaking down the door to rescue him
Buck then being there for him every step of the way. Girlfriend? what girlfriend
Culminating in them working together again when dispatch burns down, and Eddie returning to the 118
Buck FINALLY ending our misery and breaking up with Taylor
The family scenes at the start of season 6
Buck getting struck by lighting and Eddie climbing the ladder to try to pull him back UP because he was so panicked
Eddie trying to get to him; Eddie giving him CPR
Eddie telling them to DO MORE
Eddie sneaking Christopher into his hospital room and crying at his bedside
Buck knowing in his coma dream that Eddie and Christopher were missing
Eddie being Buck's safe place; the only place he can fall asleep
Eddie taking him on a poker date and apparently not railing him afterwards??
the look on Eddie's face when Buck tells him that Natalia "sees him"
And Eddie immediately trying to date because Buck's taken
The fact that we start season 7 with Buck already single and Eddie having essentially filled a permanent babysitter role in his life with Marisol
Eddie and Tommy becoming friends, being the cause of Buck's jealousy - this is not about Tommy, by the way, because Buck hasn't quite figured the Eddie of it out YET
All leading to the BIG BI KISS
And wherever the fuck the next episode is taking us
So yeah, one kiss doesn't invalidate five six seasons of build-up, and that's why I'm not worried.
#asks#this is a whole damn list#and i'm sure i missed stuff#but i tried to hit the major points#buddie#edited because i just remembered that we're on SEASON 7
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So B*mmy's attacked another journalist and caused them to go private on twitter. This time it was the person who wrote the article for USWeekly. The one about couples people want to see happen and because they included Buddie B*mmy's went after them.
You know they go on and on about how their ship is endgame and how Buddie is never going to happen. Well if that were truly the case they wouldn't need to attack us for our head canons. They wouldn't care if we saw Eddie as queer. They wouldn't even care if Eddie came out. They certainly wouldn't need to care about random articles that talked about how Buddie could happen.
But they do care and they do feel threatened because they know deep down that everything since s7 is screaming that their ship isn't going to last. Everytime they harrass people so publicly and loud like this all they do is make their entire fandom look awful. Fandom drama doesn't dictate what decisions Tim is going to make for the show but I do think it can play a factor. I think fandom in general can play a role in what stories get made. I don't think Buck would have ever even come out as bi if not for the Buddie fandom being as loud and supportive of it happening as we've been over the years.
I'm positive that Tim, the higher ups at abc, and the actors have all taken notice of the toxicity of the B*mmy fandom. Tim himself called them out in that podcast during the hiatus. And while Buddie fandom have said and done things that have crossed lines over the years we have never been as bad as some of the stuff I've seen coming from B*mmy stans since last season. They have repeatedly attacked not only our fandom but journalists, the actors (literally making a 4 hour podcast of their hate for Oliver and also telling Ryan he should have finished the job after he opened up about being s*icidal), the 911news account, etc.
From what I've seen they can't handle anyone having a different opinion than them. Almost since 7x04 happened I've seen them attacking Buddie shippers and calling us homophobic for still shipping Buddie. Even though the majority of Buddie shippers were supportive of the kiss when it happened and were thrilled Buck had his bi awakening. But because we've continued to talk about how we want to see Buddie happen, something a lot of us have done for years regardless of whatever love interest the guys have been with and because we've talked about our issues with T*mmy, especially with how he treats Buck, they think that gives them the right to attack us personally.Â
I fully support everyone's right to like the stuff they like and dislike the stuff they don't. Lord knows I've shipped a lot of unpopular ships over the years. But B*mmy stans have made this not just about a fictional show and ships anymore. This isn't just about how one group likes one ship and one group likes another. This is about how one group in the 911 fandom uses the fact that they ship a canon m|m ship as a shield to be abusive to anyone who disagrees with them.
They've made it so it's not just Buddie shippers who want T*mmy and that ship to go it's also everyone who is tired of dealing with the poison they've injected into the 911 fandom. They don't just make their own fandom look bad when they act out the way they do they make 911 fandom as whole look bad. I've been a part of this fandom for years and never seen animosity as bad it's been this year. I hope that when T*mmy goes our fandom can heal though to be honest there a lot of people I no longer care to interact with after all this.
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ok so like i get where ppl are coming from with the âthe crew loves izzyâ takes but also like. ok. i think that take involves a certain amount of reading very deeply into the text to a degree that is almost reading against the text at some points. itâs like when ppl pour all this energy into an underdeveloped and unportant side characterânone of those layers ppl add to the character are strictly contradicted by the text, but it clearly wasnât what the writer intended for anyone to really focus on. and yeah, death of the author, just bc the writers didnât intend for ppl to think abt something that hard or care about it that much doesnât mean weâre not allowed to do whatever the fuck we want. but bc i love analyzing the shit out of this show i do want to talk about WHY i think the textual support for this headcanon isnât rlly there.
first of all. when archie is like âwhy are we trying so hard to save this guy, heâs kinda a dickâ and jimâs like âyeah but heâs our dick.â rather than elaborate on what makes izzy special to them theyâre like âit used to be that the crew all had each otherâs backs no matter what and things were better back thenâ while reminiscing fondly about 1. olu and 2. that shot from season 1 where the whole crew is hanging out except for izzy whoâs sulking in the background hating everyone. if this was supposed to be an âizzyâs a dick but we love him anywayâ moment i would expect jim to talk about. yknow. izzy. instead to me ot comes across more like an âizzyâs a dick but crew is crew, we stick up for each other even if we donât particularly like each other bc itâs us against the worldâ which isnât as impactful from an izzy stanning perspective but i think makes for, like, an interesting allegory abt the queer community. we all gotta defend the rights of ppl in our community even if those specific ppl are dicks and we donât get along with them.
second of all. after they save izzyâs life and get caught by ed they all leave the room and then a few minutes later a gun goes off. maybe someone saw ed leave the room before the shot was fired, but either way they think either ed just killed izzy or izzy just killed himself. and then they DO NOTHING ABOUT THIS. nobody checks on the body. they put all this effort into saving izzyâs life and then when their efforts are foiled they do not seem that bummed out about it. the next scene with any crew member in it is frenchie talking to ed on deck, and ed is like âgo take the day offâ and frenchie is like âoh nice!â and heâs like, confused and a little concerned about ed suddenly steering the ship rlly erratically, but he also seems pretty excited about getting some time off (after so many raids in a row i would be too lol). and THEN!!! in the next scene where we get the whole crew, theyâre crowded in the hallway that leads out to the deck and the conversation they have isnât âoh my god i canât believe ed killed izzy after we cut off izzyâs legâ itâs âmaybe edâs better now? maybe killing izzy was all it took? he seems pretty cheerful for the first time in ages, maybe edâs okay?â like literally they think ed just killed izzy and they are more worried about edâs emotional state than they are grieving a beloved shipmate
then in 2.04 the crew B plot is so blatantly âthe crew struggles to trust each other again but after seeing izzy be incredibly sad and pathetic they remember that a good crew has each otherâs backs no matter what and so they extend izzy some unearned kindness and make him a new legâ that iâm amazed that other interpretations even exist. like literally theyâre all drawn away from screaming at each other with weapons drawn by izzy making some dramatic announcement and then falling and then drunkenly crawling away and refusing their help rambling âyoure born alone you die aloneâ over and over again or whatever melodramatic bullshit he said. like heâs muttering abt being miserable and alone and thereâs a WHOLE ROOM OF PEOPLE!!! standing RIGHT THERE!!!! like âoh hey man do you need help standing up? no? no ur just gonna crawl away? um. ok.â and then they all go âwell at least weâre not as fucked up as that guy. maybe we should do something nice for him?â like they are literally almost explicitly motivated by pity, not fondness. which yeah, itâs probably fucked up the way they use izzyâs new disability to sort of emphasize how pathetic heâs being, but i think the intention there is not that izzyâs pathetic bc heâs disabled, heâs pathetic bc heâs refusing to accept help. like the crew doesnât go âyikes đŹ at least we donât have his issuesâ abt izzy falling down when his makeshift prosthetic breaks, they go âyikes đŹâ when he bats away their hands and goes on a weird mumbling tirade. definitely not the most sensitive way to depict izzy in this mental state, but thatâs a different post probably. for the sake of THIS post tho: the takeaway i got from this scene is that the crew is remembering how to be there for each other again. itâs easier for them to let go of their paranoia and stop being so defensive and distrustful when izzy is there as an example of what happens when youâre TOO defensive and distrustful. âthe crew makes a leg for izzy bc they care about him on a personal levelâ did not seem to be the focus of that story arc. to me.
in 2.05 we get our first ever instance of a character expressing appreciation for something izzy said or did or some trait he expressed (except for stede that time in 1.06 when izzy backed stede up on wanting to do a fuckery, which he only did specifically bc he wanted stede to fucking die and ed was taking too long), and itâs lucius saying he loves the shark izzy whittled. but during the entire episode leading up to that scene izzy is either in syedeâs storyline where heâs not engaging with the crew or heâs getting snarked at by lucius, and not in a fun teasing way. like during that whole bit where izzy steals his cigarettes and calls him âtwattyâ lucius just looks so fucking annoyed and then uncomfortable. and then at the end of the episode izzy is sort of offering him advice and lucius is just sarcastically like âthat sounds healthy.â and within this storyline, the point of these scenes isnât rlly abt the developing and deepening relationship btwn izzy and lucius, itâs abt lucius individually coping w his trauma. izzy in this episode kinda exists in a weird place in the narrative, where he plays a supporting role in two different charactersâ (luciusâs and stedeâs) storylines without getting a central arc for himself. and both of those two storylines are only really about lucius and stede respectively, izzy is just there as this a static character who imparts wise advice. which is a very weird role for him to take, imo, but on top of that it doesnât rlly contribute any sense of like, actual bonding btwn izzy and the other two.
and in 2.06 they just enjoy the show izzy puts on. they like listening to him sing. itâs all very cute! but also. i would not say that it shows the crew really cares about izzy?? i was in pit orchestra in high school and all the lead theater kids were always fucking assholes but they were also rlly good singers and it was fun to listen to them. i would mouth along to the words being sung by bitches who seemed to be trying to be sharpay evans irl for some bizarre fucking reason. like, cartoonishly mean girls. so like, the crew listening and dancing to izzyâs song doesnât rlly sell âthe crew loves izzyâ to me. if anything, i would say that actually a stronger indicator of the crew loving izzy would be wee john sharing his makeup, and itâs a shame that we donât get to see this happen. i mean that genuinely, i think that wouldâve been a great moment to rlly strengthen izzyâs arc and it just. doesnât exist on screen. and this isnât like the finale where we know for a fact that they had to force a 40-minute episode into 30 minutes, Calypsoâs Birthday has a runtime WELL under 30 minutes. it wouldâve been SO easy to add another like 45 seconds of izzy and wee john getting ready together, but the only moment they show us is izzy walking in and discovering drag for the first time. it feels like the focus of this scene is less about a moment of connection between two characters and more about izzy individually having a gender breakthroughâand that carries on with the rest of the performance, too. bc itâs a performance, itâs everyone looking at izzy, itâs izzy a half step away from the crew as he puts on a show. the narrative framing of all this puts the focus entirely on izzy as a solo act, not on izzy as part of the crew. they like his performance, but we arenât rlly shown evidence of the crew liking him as a person.
and thatâs kinda it for izzy and the crew! up until heâs actively dying in edâs arms and theyâre all in the background silently weeping, at least (and btw, speaking from experience but uhhhh itâs pretty normal to cry when u watch someone die even if u have literally no connection to the person dying). even when theyâre helping him back to the ship, ed is the one who notices heâs injured, nobody notices until heâs already giving izzy support. and i fully believe roach flips off izzyâs grave marker with fondness, but thatâs also like. the only little personal moment any of them aside from ed has during the funeral. they do all laugh at his pinocchio joke earlier in the ep but idk if that one line can carry the entire weight of âthe crew loves izzyâ on its own. apparently thereâs some shots during the zheng v stede fight where izzy can be seen in the background close to jim and archie??? but like, you canât tell me a background shot of izzy standing near some crew members is strong textual support for the crew loving him. and i donât think i need to argue abt any scenes in s1 bc literally every single crew member who was on that boat, ivan and fang included, was about to fucking drown him in the fucking ocean.
there is one single scene that gives actual strong evidence that anyone other than ed likes or cares about izzy. itâs the part at the end of impossible birds when fang is crying after ed shot izzy. so maybe fang specifically loves izzy, even tho izzy used to pull fangâs beard a lot and fang didnât like it bc it hurt. idk.
hereâs the thing tho. in 2.01 the writers use dialogue very effectively to tell us about the kraken era. the crew doesnât say much, but what the do say tells us a lot: we know that archie thinks the kraken era is all normal pirating stuff, jim felt like the wedding raid (which seems like their only raid on a civilian ship and not a military one) was a step too far, frenchie is Not Okay but heâs doing a fantastic job repressing everything, izzy looks tired but the specific thing echoing in his head right before he starts crying in front of the crew is ed telling him âif you canât do the job, someone else will.â
and we know fang, whoâs known ed for decades, has never seen ed like this. and the specific thing he mentions as something heâs never seen from ed before is not batting an eye when ivan died. meaning that even before meeting stede, fang wouldâve expected ed to have some sort of reaction to ivan dying.
and the thing about ivan is that we know next to nothing about him. he has very little dialogue in season one. we donât even know how long heâs been working with edâlong enough to have at least heard about fang having to put his dog down bc âthe love of a pet makes a man weakâ when fang joined edâs ship years ago, even if ivan wasnât actually there yet at the timeâbut we do know that watching ed tell ghost stories was apparently the most open and available heâd ever seen ed get. so it doesnât sound like ivan and ed were especially close. ivan was almost certainly less close to ed than izzy was.
if fang expected to see ed have some sort of reaction to the death of an ordinary crew member (who mightve been working for ed for decades, mightâve been working for him for months, we really canât say) who wasnât even that close to ed, seeing ed casually and unflinchingly inflict a life-threatening gunshot to his first mate mustâve been fucking earth-shattering. and interpretation is also supported by what fang actually says while heâs crying at the end of 2.01âitâs not âi canât stop crying, izzyâs hurtâ or âi canât stop crying, izzyâs going to die.â its âi canât stop crying, ed shot izzy.â more than the imminent demise of a crew member, fang is shaking and sobbing and traumatized because he canât believe ed would do that.
and if that feels like a reach, just remember what happens after the leg is cut off, after the crew most likely believes ed shot izzy again, this time 100% fatally: the whole crew is crowded in the hallway, and fang asks âdo we think heâs⌠better?â
fang is not sad about izzy. or if he is, itâs dwarfed by how much more sad fang is about ed.
in conclusion: have fun with ur headcanons i am not the boss of you but also there is less canonical textual evidence of the crew loving izzy than some of yâall seem to think k byeeeee
#ofmd#our flag means death#ofmd meta#izzy hands#dizzy izzy#israel hands#crew of the revenge#s2e01#s2e02#s2e04#s2e05#s2e06#s2e07#s2e08#txt#meta#mine#og
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Get Back Rewatch 55 Years On: Day 15
The beautiful mess that wouldâve been The Beatles plus Yoko Ono plus Billy Preston plus Bob Dylan plus whoever else. Although I guess that is sort of what George went on to do. He really did just want a group of friends that cared more about each other than the product, and thatâs what he created for himself.Â
John: And the dream I had was you. The camera: zooms in on Paulâs wounded puppy eyes. John: *staring at Paul* dâyou get my meaning? Imagine doing that to literally any other human being. I would not be that intimate with my best friend, my husband, my sister . . . anyone. Let alone my ex, (not literally, you all get what I mean) in front of my current SO and multiple cameras. This kind of thing really makes me wonder what kind of insane shit he mustâve said/done when they were alone, especially in happier times.Â
George painted his own psychedelic guitar, and it looks gorg. Who painted Paulâs. Anyone know?
How can I Not assume âStand By Meâ is *meaningful* if, firstly, this is the second time youâve sung it at each other during this project, and secondly, if you look at each other like This while singing it? Then again, when are they not uncomfortably intense when singing together?
âOh, help me, Daddy. I donât even know how this thing works.â He says about the instrument he plays in the most successful band of all time. Paul can play whatever he needs to to get what he wants out of someone, and that includes dumb.
Johnâs little âOokaay.â At Paulâs weird carrying-on about his insecurities with his bass playing. It just screams, âYouâre delusional and Iâm not getting into this right now.â Which is 1000% valid. Imagine being Paul McCartney and second-guessing your bass skills. Reminds me of that quote where Johnâs like, âHeâs an egomaniac about everything else, but heâs coy about his bass playing. Which is stupid because heâs one of the most innovative bass players . . .â
John and Paul nail the harmony on âHoooooohOoOoOme.â And the LOOKs, you guys.
But also the nonverbal vocal communication! Itâs one of my favorite parts about them, really. One of the things that reminds me of how special their relationship is. John makes a face. Paul goes, âbrroopâ. John replies with a beaming, âYeah!â To which Paul adds another âbrrrripâ as they simultaneously continue the song. Itâs just unreal. Nobody does that. They are magical and they were right to think they had special telecommunicative powers.Â
The lunch orders today are everything you need to know about the Beatles. John: Sparrow on toast. Paul: Boiled testicle. George: Uh, Mal? So, weâll have whatever the vegetables are, and if theyâve got any cheese sauce for the cauliflower. Ringo: Mashed potato. Thatâs it. Thatâs them.
âThen thereâs another one,â says Paul, doing a shit job of pretending he hasnât rehearsed this to sound like some accidental discovery. âDonât let me down. Oh, darling,â sung suddenly, and forcefully, directly at John, âIâll never let you down.â
John, beaming like the star quarterback just told him he looked pretty, tucks his hair behind his ears and says, barely hovering in the safety of a joking tone, âYeah, itâs like you and me are lovers.â
John has of course taken Paulâs game of gay chicken an armâs reach farther than Paulâs comfortable with, at least in front of cameras, so he can only nod, and brush his own hair back. Stiff, expressionless. "Yeah."
(Of course, Peter Jackson cuts out what eventually evolves into John and Paul singing âweâre a couple of queersâ and talking about wearing skirts for the performance)Â
Am I the only one getting the vibe that John genuinely dislikes Teddy Boy? Not because he thinks it sucks or anything but because he doesnât like the obvious similarities to his relationship with Julia? Personally, I love it. It was my anxiety song a few years back.
The original lyric to âfancy me chancesâ was Not âfrockâ I absolutely guarantee.Â
Love Paul checking on Billy. Love that they're all, even with everything they've got going, making sure he's set up and taken care of.
Sorry not sorry that Iâm so thirsty over literally every woman in this show, but. Hello, Pattie! She just walks in, ignores everyone else, kisses him Like That, whispers something, and gets out to go live her own life. Queen. Gorgeous. Obsessed.
George Martin praising his children for "working so well together." I love that he refused to produce them after the white album, not because they were being disrespectful to him or anything, but because they weren't getting along. And that, although he's not producing, technically, he can't stop himself coming in to make sure they're okay. He's such a good dad, literally.
John over here being emo af by himself, playing âI Feel Fine,â because he definitely does Not feel fine and heâs just as nostalgic as Paul, which is way too fucking nostalgic. Poor baby.Â
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