#he is just so Daddy Issues
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itās unhinged long post time again! and this oneās about gitae kim >:)
so its assumed that gitae holds some form of resentment over his absent father, gap ā¦ (since he did vaguely murder him with james after all)
ā¦ but there seems to be some subtle hints that gitae might have also idolized gapryong kim
-> first up: gitaeās pipe being engraved with gapryong kimās name in chinese (éē²é¾) ćlink to my post that goes more in-depth about gapās chinese nameć
as i mentioned in the linked post, it seems like that smoking pipe belonged to gap in the past and gitae somehow got ahold of it
so why would gitae keep a piece of memorabilia that belonged to his absent father if he only held resentment for the man? it might have some sentimental value for him, especially since he chose to bring it back to korea with him.
perhaps the motive behind gitaeās possession and usage of gapās pipe could be comparable to jake deciding to don gapās gloves
the two of them both hold resentment for gap as a father, while also selectively admiring and emulating aspects of him as a gangsters
-> secondly, on the topic of emulating gap ā¦
jake seems to unwillingly (or subconsciously) follow in his fatherās footsteps through his passion for protecting people (which is the symbolic reason he wears gapās gloves), but he also inherited gapās moral compass. jake dislikes unfairness or ācheatingā, just like how gap could never āignore any kind of injustice.ā
also the way that gap is mentioned to never be able to pass by someone in need, while jake constantly gets involved in other peopleās business for the sake of helping them (showing up to save victims in 3a and his entire dynamic with xiaolung lol)
by all means, minseon was correct (ofc she is <3), and jake takes after gapryong kimās āgood sideā
and in the same vein, following in minseonās words, gitae takes after gapryong kimās evil side.
heās selfish, heās power-hungry, and he has the raw strength to do (or get) what he wants
all of which are also traits belonging to gap, shown through his cheating, his (failed) political campaign, and his strength making him the ālegend of the pre-generationā
no one truly aspires to be any of the first two traits listed, but what about the third?
to be a legend, in terms of strength (which is very, very important as a gangism lookism character whose ability to succeed is correlated in their ability to fight ā¦)
wouldnāt that certainly be appealing to a selfish, power-hungry man?
and it seems that it indeed was very appealing to gitae, since jinyoung alludes to gap failing to mimic gapās fighting style in the past
-> āno matter how hard you try, youāll never be gapryong kim.ā
perhaps this was just a one-off comment about gitae attempting to mimic gapās fists, but it could be indicative of another facet of gitaeās admiration for his father
gitae might have admired the idea of his father being gapryong kim, koreaās strongest gangster, to the point of idolization (which sounds a lot like a certain someone samuel hahah ā¦ )
if so, then he might have become obsessed with following in his fatherās footsteps and attaining power as a gangster, especially if he lived in poverty as an abandoned child (just like samuel)
perhaps, in a similar manner to samuel, gitae might have grown up viewing himself as needing to be worthy of being gapryong kimās son, needing to live up to his fatherās name.
but is ptj really going to rehash the same backstory for gitae? thereās a possibility, but ultimately, i donāt think so. gitae seems like heās driven by something different to samuel, something a little less insecure hahah :)
gitae may have found himself obsessed over another aspect of gapryong kim, something distinct from the validation that samuel craved, something like:
-> the identity of gapryong kim
the legend of the pre-generation, koreaās strongest gangster, an all-around powerful man
someone to admire, someone to idolize (only for these guys that is, jake is right in hating gap lol)
what gitae wanted was to be āgapryong kimā.
maybe not in a literal sense, but rather to have the power as a gangster that gap held during his heyday, to be a legend in his own right
gitae wanted to lead the life of glory that gapryong kim did, but might have felt ultimately limited by only being an illegitimate son of his
admiration, idolization, and obsession
gitae could have been obsessed with everything that gapryong kim represented, and the tortuously resentful ache of being unable to claim legitimacy to gapryong kimās name might have driven gitae to commit his āultimate sinā
perhaps gitae figured that the only way to āget what he wantedā out of his life as an unwanted son was to murder his father and idol, gapryong kim, and thus allow himself to create his own legacy, one that eerily mirrors that of his deceased father, gapryong kim
-> additionally, as stated by minseon, gitae went to mexico because he āgot what he wantedā
itās very interesting that gitae went to mexico (since lookism takes place in south korea lol), and i think the reason that gitae decided to start a gang in mexico is an extension of his character motivation of power
gitae might have wanted to leave south korea because he was unable to attain the power that he wanted there, to build a legacy separate from gapryong kimās, but very similar in nature
immediately after gapryong kim thwarted the āgreat threatā that south korea faced in the past, he went into politics because he realized that was the only way for him to gain true power in korea
gitae didnāt want to follow in the path of the disgraceful politician gapryong kim, but rather the powerful gang leader gapryong kim
in mexico, the magnitude of the crimes, the underground businesses, and the authority that gangs have all fit someone like gitae better, someone who craves greater power and control
-> and to tie it back to the beginning of this post, gitaeās bitter obsession with gapryong kim might be why he keeps his pipe, or why he values that coat so much (since it likely belonged to gapryong in the past)
itās a little morbid, especially if gitae gained access to gapryong kimās belongings during or as a result of his murder, but gitae seems to cherish his father in his very own, twisted way
(gitaeās line about the coat being worth a life takes on a whole new meaning if he took it after murdering gap lol)
also, is it just a coincidence that gitae is currently dressed in a similar fashion to gap in his prime?
slicked back hair, black pants, a red shirt, and a black coat (possibly the same coat?)
anyway, thanks for reading my insufferable ramblings !!!
very excited to see what ptj has in store for gitaeās character now that heās finally back :3
#ā#lookism#lookism spoilers#long post#analysis#gitae kim#my deranged king#he is just so Daddy Issues#gitae murdered gap and then proceeded to steal his wardrobe#what is Wrong with him (everything)#alternative answer: his tapeworm#gitae did nothing wrong!!! (itās all his tapewormās doing)
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Destiel Pride - Day 21; Most faithful mirror
#destiel pride#dean winchester#castiel#destiel#destiel art#spnfanart#wiggleart#I forgot this is a line in the Massive Attack song Teardrop haha but yeah I#thought about things that encompassed the whole song but I just then thought about mirrors and how it shows you yourself#and how Dean and cas faced similar issues specifically daddy issues lol#and family issues#and this scene from 4.16 was one of my favorites of theirs and imo one of their most important scenes that got them on the same page#this is the same episode cas is beginning to experience doubt#Dean tells him not to disappear on him while heās talking to him#and how they both didnāt become the fathers wanted#well in casās caseā¦ Angel lol#so yah#idk this scene is really emotional to me and I think thee point in time cas starts to feeeeeeeel#idk. I love this scene a lot lol
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sometimes i wake up in a cold sweat thinking ab what could have beenā¦.
back to bed i go,,,, but imagine,,,,,,
#if only the writers actually gaf ab luka#and its so perfect because they both got daddy issues up the wazzoo#AND LUKA LITERALLY KNOWS HES CHAT NOIR AND IS SO CHILL AB IT I JUST- AAAGHH#lukadrien#luka couffaine#miraculous luka#adrien agreste#miraculous ladybug#miraculous#chat noir#miraculous adrien
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Okay hear me out
THIS dean -
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#i just think baby dean and his daddy issues would be all over that#he would climb sam like a tree#and sam would be so gentle with him but he would feel absolutely feral#sam would be all barely restrained ferocity#and dean would be such a brat#and sam would talk in his low soft dom voice#and dean's insides would feel like lava#anyway...............#samdean#wincest#gifs
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Buck and Tommy ā” flirty, kinky and in love
#911edit#911#911 abc#evan buckley#tommy kinard#bucktommy#911 spoilers#buck x tommy#tevan#mine#what is it with this hate? I can't look in the tags#that scene was there to show#1. Tommy cares about Buck#asking if HE IS OKAY#2. Buck opening up 3. Tommy opening up#4. and lighting the mood with Tommys smooth flirting and teasing which Buck picks up on#Buck brought the daddy issues up. Tommy was rolling with it and Buck smiled the whole way through#thats my take on it anyway. I just think the writers wanted to end bucktommy this season on a happy note#I loved that for them#I'm happy that all the people I follow are on board with it#just let them be#so to all the haters#whom I think just don't like Tommy#please grow up#there are bigger problems in the world than a little kink mention in a tv show#anyway#thanks for coming to my ted talk
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jason is lashing out at bruce because he can't come to terms with his mother being the reason for his (their) death. she died in the warehouse too and when jason came back he latched all that anger onto the one parent figure he had left even though a part of him knows it wasn't bruce's fault, but sheila's. he's angry at sheila. he's angry at sheila. but she died and placing that anger at a dead woman has nothing to hold on to so it's just bruce. which if it was written better would mean that jason was acting out against a parent he knows cares about him and he feels safe with, and would be recognized in the story. he wants to die but he's scared to do it alone so he's being reckless and making bruce watch him and be there. he wants to die but he wants bruce to be there with him so he's not alone. because he died knowing bruce wouldn't make it. and he's angry at sheila for being the parent that was there. the one that didn't love him. if sheila hadn't sold him up to the joker, bruce would have met up with jason. it's sheila and joker's fault.
#i feel like no one ever mentions sheila beyond āand she sold him up and she died tooā#but like. that's the parent he's actually mad at#it was never soley about bruce#he's mad at bruce too and maybe resentful but it's something that could have easily been TALKED ABOUT#IF THEY WOULD JUST TALK#IT WAS ALWAYS SHEILA#jason todd#sheila haywood#that's her name right. that bitch#bruce wayne#the victim blaming for jason's death later on makes me so mad#because he was a TEENAGER#he didn't do anything wrong???#it was ALWAYS SHEILA'S FAULT#i feel insane#it's MOMMY issues guys#we focus on bruce and daddy issues cause he's alive and yes there is daddy issues but#it's deep rooted mommy issues that really made him so fucked up when he came back
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kayne: what kind of great old one calls himself fucking john
john:
#malevolent#malevolent ep 40#malevolent spoilers#like damn! leave him be!#kayne really was like stupid ass name...#from the guy calling himself KAYNE i dont wanna hear SHIT#at least john doe has like. meaning behind it#kayne just means little battler like okkk little soldier has daddy looked at u this month ššš#sorry i love making fun of his daddy issues#NOW THAT ITS CANON HE'S NYARLATHOTEP#hes never gonna hear the end of it#god forbid azatoth is ever introduced guys im so serious#remi rambles
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had to share this along with what caused it actually. itās one of the most important viago lines of all time. right after āmild curiosity was his favourite mood.ā
#daddy issues central murder man i love you so.#viago de riva#itās important that you know he is reacting this strongly not just because of the daddy issues but also because#a) he is being accused of murders he did not do in this scene and b) this is an ex of teiaās whoās talking#and itās unclear which of those is affecting it more#i hope heās never normal <3
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wrt prev post and samās original āfed demon blood by azazel as a babyā arc like. actually that was the most insane thing to see depicted on my television especially when it seemed like no one else i knew or followed was talking about it. it felt so explicit and yet it was sooo deep in metaphor. she walked in on us. sammy, youāre my favourite. god it must be terrible to know something happened but that youāll never be able to remember it or tell anyone about it. never be able to rip it out or scrub it clean. so azazel could get into my nursery and- bleed in my mouth? because i wasnāt clean. these trials - theyāre purifying me. anyway. augh
#sometimes i think abt how i had no idea what the hell i was getting into when i started watching supernatural#i literally didnāt know sam existed. i just knew it from tumblr as the destiel show.#i didnāt even know it was a horror show initially#i didnāt know anything i just knew there were angels and it got weird and interestingly bad and meta and god was a guy called chuck#and there was this bisexual silly guy called dean winchester with daddy issues#and he had a homophobic brother#ANGERS me. rarrgh#anyway and then somehow i still started watching. watched the pilot. kept watching. became flat out obsessed in like 3 episodes.#i think i watched most of s1 in one day#and by the end i was like. oh this is good#like. Actually Good.#and i had no reference point for spn being good in especially the specific way it was good#which was a fucked up family is hell mini horror film every episode way that i really liked#anyway then i discovered samgirl tumblr when i was on like s4. And all was well#these tags r so irrelevant to the actual post but whatgeer#point stands i stumbled into this entirely accidentally and it made it so trippy to start seeing pieces come together before my eyes#csa tw#oliver talks#spn#samgirlisms#she walked in on us
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This is so shanks coded to me. Like he just keeps losing people and he never learns how to deal with it. So much so that he becomes the abandoning parent. He literally knows nothing else all he has as a frame of reference is all the adult figures in his life leaving him and telling him it is for the best. So why exactly wouldnāt he believe that the best way to love someone is by letting go?
He does it to Luffy, he does it to Uta and in some ways he does it to Buggy and Mihawk too. Because he never just asks them to stay. He lets Buggy run out of his life even though it was pretty obvious that Buggy wanted Shanks to fight for this to take a stand a real one on a conviction for once and heā¦doesnāt, he just lets buggy leave.
And then he hitches his wagon to the most flighty (dude is literally a bird motif š) mother fucker he can find. he lets Mihawk wander in and out of his life as he pleases regardless of what is best for either of them. Because maybe Mihawk has nothing better to do š. Maybe he would say yes now if Shanks asks. but Shanks would rather die than ask, would cut off his other arm before he even attempted to āclip Mihawkās wingsā
And thatās like the truth of it. Shanks has been abandoned by every person that has ever loved him besides his crew and he knows they will never leave him. But Maybe he just wants someone to stay not because they call him captain.
#shanks is the quintessential abandoned child syndrome#that grows into the leave them before they can leave you adult#except he does it in a nice way and because he does genuinely think he is helping them make the best decisions for their lives#which as shown with uta and Luffy is a pretty big hit or a disastrous miss#you can pry shanks and his abandonment issues out of my cold dead hands#honestly this is kind of#shuggy#because I do think Buggy wanted shanks to put up more of a fight to keep them together#the same way he wanted him to go after the one piece#buggy and shanks arrested development at 15#mishanks#shanks and his abandonment issues entering a bar and choosing to attach himself to the one person most likely to just up and leave at dawn#is so funny to me#because truly that is such a daddy issues move š#but honestly maybe I do think Mihawk would have agreeded (petulantly maybe) if Shanks had just asked#Hell heās in cross guild and all crocodile had to do was make a phone call#but they also have the divorce that Mihawkās not completely over which complicates things#god I need to see the interact in canon š#shanks unable to form a stable relationship with someone he didnāt adopt into his crew challenge impossible#buggy the clown#shanks#red haired pirates#red haired shanks#red hair shanks#akagami no shanks#mihawk and shanks#buggy x shanks#uta one piece#monkey d. luffy#one piece
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Look I know Lucifer isn't the best dad ever but I feel like people who say he's a bad dad are purposely ignoring the context of the show. It is very much implied that he thought Charlie wanted nothing to do with him, and Charlie thought he wanted nothing to do with her. Luciferās still dealing with trauma from Heaven and his fall and probably will for the rest of time plus he's dealing with what would probably qualify as clinical depression, and simultaneously dealing with trauma, clinical depression, and autistic traits (which Lucifer absolutely has; I do not say, as an autistic person, that Lucifer is a massive autistic mood for no reason) is a fucking NIGHTMARE.
I'm not saying Lucifer shouldn't take responsibility. He should. But he's already doing better than my dad frankly. Lucifer hits me in the daddy issues, I wish my dad made an effort to be more active in my life. Lucifer is fucking trying, and that's better than a lot of people can say about their dads.
#hazbin hotel#hazbin hotel lucifer#like i said hes definitely not the best dad but hes also not the worst. hes trying#thats both better than he was doing and better than a lot of people get#(i do think stolas is a better dad but his and lucifers circumstances are also completely different)#if lucifer hadnt bothered helping charlie then yeah id say hes a bad dad#but he put his instinct to avoid the thing that gave him trauma (heaven) at all costs aside for charlie#he was able to acknowledge that yes hes been a shit dad and could be doing better#he made an active effort TO DO BETTER#he actively made a change about himself for the sake of being there for charlie and that alone is better than most people can do#he wasnt a bad dad on purpose. he thought charlie didnt want to see him and acted accordingly which made his mental health problems worse#and his mental health problems being worse made it harder for him to function let alone be charlies dad#again im not saying he shouldnt take accountability just that people dont acknowledge why he was absent for so long#(me being me i blame lilith for making lucifer think charlie didnt want to see him and making charlie think lucifer didnt want to see her)#maybe this is littered with bad takes and my perspective is clouded by daddy issues. idk lol
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OUGHGGHRHHTDHHGRD IM SICK.
#YALL PLEASE. TELL ME YALL GET IT.#IM SO NOT OKAY.#I relate to mephone on a heavy level and honestly this just crushed me#oh :( he's just like me#ykwim?#and this scene is especially crushing to me#but yeah#he is me i am him#inanimate insanity#ii#osc#object show community#object shows#ii mephone4#mephone#mepohone4#inanimate insanity mephone4#mephone 4 ii#mephone 4#ii steve cobs#steve cobs#ii cobs#cobs ii#knife ii#ii knife#suitcase ii#ii suitcase#im not okay#hastag daddy issues#or whatever the fuck
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Stranger Things x Breakfast Club AU (part ?)
#hopper is Vernon in this AU because damn them kids#billy is obviously Bender cause I mean#duh#Steve is Claire cause heās princess s1 Steve whoās constantly trying to fit in and impress everyone#and then we get to the others#and weāre changing it up#cause we know the breakfast club explores the different challenges teens face#and tries to stereotype them etc#just hear me out cause I havenāt fully fleshed it out#but Jonathan is the weirdo quiet kid who billy mostly leaves alone because he isnāt pretending to be someone else#and Jonathanās at home problems are his daddy issues and the (sometimes extreme) overprotectiveness of joyce#Robin is here#sheās GAY GAY GAY#Iām still trying to figure out her problems at home#something that causes her to make fun of people/push them away as a defence mechanism#and then thereās Nancy#whoās so afraid of becoming her mother#who everyone thinks is in a happy nuclear family#but she knows itās all bullshit#and sheās so worried sheās gonna end up like that too#anyway#those are my rough hcs for this AU#my art#doodle of the day#stranger things#billy hargrove#traditional art#Jonathan byers#Jim hopper#breakfast club au
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FMA AU where no one ever explains gender to Ed. (Part 3)
(part 1) (part 2)
(Fic courtesy of Rainowz!)
MORE CHAOS
Roy hearing Al refer to Ed with She/Her pronouns and getting very confused
Ed being canonically tiny and malnourished
Roy coming to the conclusion that Ed is secretly a girl in disguise as a boy for safety or respect or smth
Hughes hearing Al refer to Ed with She/Her pronouns and coming to the wrong conclusion but being really supportive nonetheless
Hughes: Riza I think maybe Ed is trans
Riza *Figured the system out weeks ago*: No no, it's much weirder than that.
kfjddkfdsj
They start a bet over how long it will take Roy to figure it out except they don't realize that the other one has a very different idea of whats going on.
Ed hearing Roy he/him the Fuhrer and realizing Roy is on the treason bus way sooner
Roy can't figure out how Ed figured him out so quickly
The boys meet Armstrong and refer to him exclusively as Ma'am
Armstrong tries to correct them and tell them that they should call him sir and Al just pats his shoulder and tells him that he should have more self esteem bc they think he's great.
Armstrong is left confused but weirdly flattered.
#fma#fmab#fma edward#fma au#edward elric#full metal alchemist#GendED AU#This whole AU is just-#Ed: I'm bout to turn my daddy issues into a whole-ass worldview#Ed lacking a gender identity because he doesn't know what gender *is* is something that can be so personal#Armstrong my beloved himbo#izumi knows the system but doesn't correct them bc she thinks it's funny
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i am begging one single person in this entire show to consider, for perhaps one single second, THE POSSIBILITY THAT THERE IS A REASON HOUSE HATES HIS DAD THIS MUCH
#everyone is so dreadfully shocked and confused by him not wanting to go to his own father's funeral#but not no one makes any real effort to find out why#and that's not to say house would actually talk about it#(though tbh he might if someone asked in a genuinely nonjudgmental way. and he does tell wilson a couple of things.)#but either way it just feels like everyone is assuming#that house is just being an asshole for the sake of being an asshole#and it has occurred to no one that house's late father could possibly be at fault for his son not wanting to attend his funeral#i just. it would be nice if someone would consider the notion#that a person not wanting to be at their parent's funeral might have a valid reason for that#(like abuse. or something)#anyway this was a good episode#i'm always up for for daddy issues and hilson road trips#(i am considerably less up for forcing abuse survivors to honor their dead abusers)#house md#house season 5#house 5x4#op#john house
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for the ask game (1)
au where bruce is attracted to his robins and batgirls. he tries not to think about it or act on it, but it's getting more difficult with every new member of his team he acquires. does anyone know? do the robins and batgirls notice his weird behavior? what do they do about it? do they ever find out the truth? who would think it's terrible and who would find it strangely hot/comforting/nice? does bruce ever act on his feelings?
for the ask game!
oh my GOD do i have thoughts for AUs like this, i love this shit so dearly, dirtybadwrong Bruce who's trying to keep a lid on it my beloved.
i think the fun of this AU is if characters would notice Bruce lusting for themselves vs would they notice Bruce lusting for a different Robin/Batgirl. like does Dick pick up on it when it's just him and Bruce? no, because it's just. him and Bruce. he and Bruce are weird and complicated and hold endless bounds of nuance. that's just How Bruce Is, and Dick is the "test run", in a sense. he knows Bruce is new to this whole sidekick/family thing and is giving Bruce grace for being rough around the edges. but when Bruce starts looking at Jason or Tim or Cass that way, that's when Dick starts to notice. it's never enough of a suspicion he feels justified to bring it up, but the thought lingers. he's hyperaware and grows less and less comfortable with leaving them alone with Bruce. it's a weird game of chicken, Dick and Bruce staring each other down when Bruce's touch lingers too long. each waiting for the other to say something first. if Bruce ever broke and actually acted on his feelings, Dick would be eaten alive by the guilt of knowing something was up, but never saying something until it was too late.
obviously, Cass would know. there's no world where Cass *doesn't* know, the nature of who and what she is would immediately clock it. but the issue is, Cass doesn't have a good framework of what family looks like. she doesn't really understand familial vs romantic love bc she has no firsthand experience of what a parent's love should even look like. so she never calls it out. she just watches. i'm a fan of Cass believing this is normal and believing she too can express and act on attraction that's vaguely incestuous. maybe it's with Babs, maybe it's with Dick or Tim or Bruce himself. but she recognizes this as Normal and Accepted within the Batfamily, so it severely fucks up her understanding of familial love and i just. man it's my favorite thing about Cass in Batcest honestly, is how you can play with her lack of experience with love, boundaries, and sexuality.
Tim is the fun one for me. because my favorite flavor of BruTim is when Tim knows, as he agrees to be Robin, that there's a non-zero chance that Bruce is going to be Weird and agrees anyway because he's decided it's an acceptable risk. so Tim knows from the get-go because he's expecting it. if Bruce acts on his attraction, i think it's either with Tim or Cass first, because they're the most likely to confront him about it in a way that isn't entirely negative. Tim has accepted it's a possibility and Cass just seeks being loved and touched so. it leads to the first time someone's ever confronted Bruce about it. and the thing is, Bruce really doesn't like confrontation about his flaws. the first time Tim tries to imply he's okay with it, Bruce would lash out at the idea, tell Tim how inappropriate that is and benches Tim for a week. it'd probably take a united front from Cass and Tim to get Bruce to even *admit* to the attraction. still Bruce wouldn't allow it to happen and he brushes them off until finally, the dam breaks. it's fun if there's a cause like sex pollen, but i think it's *more* fun if it's just. a random fucking Tuesday and finally Bruce is at his limit. he has no real reason, there's nothing particularly different about that day's routine. he just sees Tim or Cass striping armor and sighs and gives in.
i don't think Steph, Jason, or Babs would notice until anything substantial happened. not because they're not wicked smart, but just because none of them were looking for it. Jason put Bruce on a pedestal when he was alive, and when he came back from the dead he wasn't close enough to be noticing Bruce's interpersonal dynamics outside of his narrow scope. Steph has no real framework for what healthy fatherhood looks like, so if Bruce's touches linger, if he stares too long, she just shrugs and assumes it's how it is. and Babs was just never quite close enough to Bruce to notice. if and when she notices, is when actual sexual things start to happen between Cass and Bruce. because Cass would see no reason to hide it. Babs would be pissed, but it'd be tricky to navigate. Cass would be an adult, even if she's only 18/19, so technically, she's old enough to be consenting. if nothing else, Bruce is a careful man. even when he breaks and gives in to his desires, he covers his tracks well. he makes sure he has enthusiastic consent and there's no legal recourse that could be taken. age of consent and all that. there's not much Babs can *do* other than try to tell Cass (and/or Tim) that this isn't normal or okay. not that it gets her anywhere, but god would she try.
by the time Duke comes along (if we venture out of the pre-Flashpoint era) i think it's a sort of. open secret, in the Batfamily. talked about in nothing but hushed whispers and knowing glances. at some point, they've all had sex with Bruce, caving all for different reasons. some more than others. Tim sees it as a duty, Cass sees it as a way of seeking comfort, Steph sees it as getting Bruce's approval for once, etc. it's never forced on them, but eventually, they all come to Bruce sooner or later. and that's the fun irony of it, i think. they try to convince the others not to, but would go to Bruce on their own well. because complicated reasons they can't put into words. sometimes, Bruce is just a messy man who doesn't realize how prized his Attention to for the rest of the Batfamily. that weird duality of not liking him, but also wanting desperately for him to like you. all of them have dealt with it, at some point. so for Duke, it takes a while for him to understand this... whole dynamic. it's Cass who tries to explain it to him, and he's a little horrified, a lot confused. especially when Bruce starts staring at him a little too long as well. i think he'd only want to watch first but well. they all cave eventually.
also fun bonus if we venture into the Dark Knight Returns universe for my bestest girl Carrie Kelley: there's such a like, "i'm fucking around and i'm finding out" vibe to Carrie. like Tim, she's very proactive in just. deciding she's going to be Robin and she's ready for whatever that entails. (IMO canon Carrie is closer to fanon Tim than canon Tim is but *that* deserves its own post-) like she takes one look at the old man that is Batman and goes yup. he's never fucking getting rid of me now. if Bruce started having weird feelings about her, i think she'd have *fun* with it. she's decided she's in it for the long haul and for whatever being Robin means so. she's almost teasing about it, seeing how hard she can push before Bruce snaps. since it's an older, gruffer Bruce, i think he'd express open annoyance at it first, almost a sort of banter about how Carrie behave. but of course he caves and Carrie leans into it, because there's a fun in having all of Bruce's attention to herself. in the main timeline, Bruce is pretty split with so many Robins and Batgirls, but during their era, it's *just* her and him and she's very proud she's got him all to herself.
#bruce fucks/lusts after every batfam member and they all want to protect each other from him#but also they're all going to fuck him anyway bc they're hypocrite and self sacrificial.#necrotic answerings#ask game#brudick#brujay#brutim#brucass#brusteph#brubabs#bruduke#brucarrie#batcest#did i get all the ship names? god i hope so#listen i'm a pre-flashpoint girlie but know i believe there should be more duke in batcest spaces.#let him in on the fun. stop calling him the normal one. let him ALSO be toxic and gay damnit#though trying to figure out their ship name i cackling at the thought of it being bruke or duce. it's so fucking funny to me and idek why#also let carrie into batcest spaces damnit. there's so few bruce/carrie fics you're all uninspired /lh#anyway yeah i'm obsessed with the vibes of#does anyone like bruce? no but his attention. his approval. the things most of the batkids would do for it#i think you could do bruce/helena b with these vibes too#but ngl i got do mad at the batman: brave & the bold show for doing helena dirty by just making her hot for bruce#that i mentally tune that ship out#it's good. it has good potential for daddy issues.#but it just reminds me of how fucking *ass* helena is in that show. they fucked up my bbygirl.#idk why ppl like b:tb&tb so much. i don't think it's good??#is it nostalgia or something? like there's so many other better batman animated shows that can like. write women. idk that's just me#anyway love this concept so dearly <3#bruce who is so fucking bad at love he can't separate familial and romantic love my beloved <3#bruce wayne having *boundaries*? absolutely not in my good catholic batcest home.
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