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AU where Meng Shi was just a bit more cynical and spent her hard-earned on buying Meng Yao study materials for the Imperial Examination instead of dodgy cultivation manuals. Cultivation is for his father to teach him, after all.
Meng Yao fucking blitzes the exam, because of course he does, and the first time he arrives at Koi Tower it's with an imperial mandate to audit the shit out of them for tax purposes.
#meng yao can ruin jin guanshan buearocratically#as a treat#mdzs#jin guangyao#the untamed#grand master of demonic cultivation#grandmaster of demonic cultivation#cql#mxtx#meng yao#jin guangshan#meng shi#all plotbunnies free to a good home
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Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girl found dead in a hidden room.
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#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#lan xichen#jin guangyao#jiang cheng#wei wuxian#qin su#EDIT: Tumblr published an earlier draft with only half the notes I wrote so: late entry on my JGY thoughts.#Unlike the mystic powers of the stockmarket (what the OG meme is referring to) I think this situation calls for more active investigation.#qin su is such a deeply tragic character to me and I really wish we got a bit more from her.#Love everyone who sent me messages about her after the last time she appeared.#I think she needs a spin off of her being a transmigrator SO badly.#MDZS has so many interesting characters - but it sometimes fails to give them the proper room to really develop past a role in the plot.#That's just the consequence of writing a story like MDZS. Not every character in a book *needs* to have a rich inner life and backstory!#To do so would bog down the story and obliterate any notion of pacing. It's just not possible.#Jin Guangyao (nee Meng Yao) is unfortunately not free from this leeway rule. He is the culprit of this murder mystery plot#and thus NEEDS to encapsulate the themes of the book. And personally he's a 7 out of 10 at best on this front (in the AD).#MDZS is about rumours twisting reality and working towards truth. And about how people & situations are rarely ever black & white#JGY has his motivations. He's well written in regards to his actions making sense for his character.#What started as good traits (drive to succeed & improve his image) became twisted over time (do anything to maintain his image)#and it's a good parallel to WWX! He has the same arc (with different traits)! Bonus points for IGY in that regard.#but man....by the time we confront this guy for murder there's not a lot of grey morality. He's just...deep in the hole *he* dug.#There's a beautiful tragedy to it! More on JGY in later comics - this is getting pretty long already!
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time for another meng yao moment i observed while rewatching cql episode 4 for the purposes of snagging some screenshots: it looks like meng yao is giving wei wuxian the stink-eye because he's worried he's going to rat out nie huaisang for bringing his little canary friend into the lecture hall.
so here's the moment when the bird starts chirping (also i find the caption here exquisitely painful for other reasons, but i'll save that for another post)
poor, poor huaisang. buddy u did not think this through. this is the stuff uhoh.jpeg web comics are made of honestly
then right afterwards we have this exquisite shot of so many of the story's key players all together in one moment as teenagers: there's jiang yanli trying her damnedest to pretend none of this is happening (side note: does her actor also have a background in dance? her ballet-style first position here is really good); jiang cheng looking like he's ready to pitch a shit fit; nie huaisang is EXCEPTIONALLY BAD at hiding how guilty he is; wei wuxian is just the đ emoji if someone granted it human form; and then there's meng yao, who is just--
"wei-gongzi you hear nothing. wei-gongzi don't u fuckin say a fuckin word. snitches get stitches wei-gongzi."
#mdzs#cql#meng yao#jin guangyao#nie huaisang#he did crimes??? good for him đ#let him have birds!! đď¸#my nhs tag has never been more appropriate tbh
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Lan Wangji: Why can't I have a morally questionable boyfriend when you do?
Lan Xichen: A-Yao isn't morally questionable!!
Lan Wangji: He's literally dragging his sworn brother's corpse right now
Lan Xichen, noticing Jin Guangyao: A-Yao, did you kill da-ge?
Jin Guangyao, dragging Nie Mingjue's corpse: Of course not er-ge, he's just sleeping
Lan Xichen: See Wangji, he's just sleeping
Lan Wangji: ( ,,âŠ'︿'âŠ,,)
#nmj: xichen - a-yao killed me and brought me back with demonic cultivation#lxc: that doesn't sound good#lxc: a-yao did you kill da-ge and then brought him back?#jgy: no er-ge - he was just sleeping#lxc: see da-ge - you were just sleeping#nmj: ((âŹâŁďšâ˘))#lan wangji#lan zhan#lan xichen#lan huan#jin guangyao#meng yao#wangxian#xiyao#3zun#nie mingjue#mxtx#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#the grandmaster of demonic cultivation#the untamed
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Jgy is a class traitor this, jgy is the only person who cares about the common people that. Jgy is the type of guy who would scab during a strike, bring in a union-buster to earn favours from upper management, slowly work his way up to CEO and then give everyone the extra vacation days and payraises they were asking for anyway. Which is an extremely funny type of guy to be. Like, can we all take a break from arguing to agree how fucking hilarious that is?
#mdzs#jin guangyao#meng yao#i've said this before and i'll say it again he's an 'earn to give' guy!#jgy's pure utalitarian outlook combined with his strong awareness that to make an impact he needs power.#makes that he can do something that technically only serves to bring him more power and still see it as a moral act.#because he can use that power to do more good#it's the 'i'll be the only good billionaire' mindset which is bascially always wrong irl!#which makes it even funnier that in book canon where the watchtowers did canonically save thousands jgy is... kind of right.#again i cannot stress enough what a hoot this is. one guy for whom 'earn to give' worked. and he's a serial killer.
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Nie Huaisang is my favorite Untamed character because he's the heir to the biggest baddest warrior sect of them all but his best weapons are his mind, his theatrics, and his sense of dramatic irony.
#also the deep pools of feelings he has for others that he doesn't seem all that aware he possesses#he loved meng yao enough to eventually hate him so viciously#(he doesn't just kill him he exposed every dirty pore of him and destroys him utterly)#(it's almost tender to hate someone intimately enough to know every tiny thing about them)#he loves his brother enough to embark on a decade long revenge quest on his behalf#he loves his friend enough to think resurrecting him is a good idea#(when it's a miracle that worked out in his favor)#nie huaisang#the untamed#the grandmaster of demonic cultivation#mxtx#the untamed spoilers#you can tell he's an arts major because he turns his vengeance into some kind of poetic saga
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Sect Leader Yao: *loudly ranting about WWX being evil and how he shouldnât have âbeen invitedâ as if the man hadnât been forcefully summoned like a demon of some sort*
Nie Mingjue: âŚSect Leader Yao?
SLYao: -what?
Nie Mingjue: *pointing down* Your robes are on fire.
SLYao: *runs out of the hall screaming when he canât get it put out*
Other leaders: *trying to figure out if WWX was the one that set him on fire*
Wei Wuxian: *sitting behind a shielding array, both stuck and not wanting to tempt someone to attack him, actively hiding a confused A-Yaun behind his skirts* :)
A-Yaun: ??:)??
Jiang Yanli: *eagerly showing him Jin Ling and probably thinks WWX and JC managed this so WWX could be at his 100 day celebration, isnât gonna ask where they can get in trouble*
Jiang Cheng: *thinking exactly the same thing but about Yanli and WWX, showing off his nice new hair pin Yanli got him*
Jin Zixuan: *just happy this is less horrible than he expected*
Lan Wangji: *giving WWX blinks of affection and love*
Wei Wuxian: :)
Nie Mingjue: âŚbut who set Sect Leader Yao on fire?
Lan Xichen: I donât know, but itâs so much more peaceful now :)
Meng Yao: *appears at NMJâs elbow, holding hands with NHS and looking pleased* I found that array in Jin Guangshanâs office :) itâll wear off in about five hours. Theyâll be so excited when they realize they can pass him random objects through the shield :)
Nie Huaisang: I set Sect Leader Yaoâs robes on fire :)
Nie Mingjue: Ohhh you two are just so cute, I am giving you both presents when we get home.
NHS & MY: :D
#the grandmaster of demonic cultivation#the untamed#mdzs#incorrect mdzs#incorrect untamed quotes#wei wuxian#jiang cheng#nie huaisang#Meng Yao#nie mingjue#if NMJ had kept my#sangyao#this is both them as a ship#or just as NMJâs tiny babey gremlin goblins#tbh he thinks of them that way in both cases#those are his precious didis and heâs gonna spoil them#NMJ is okay with nhs setting people on fire lol but as long as my is being less murdery heâs good with him
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Meng Yao(fuming): Absolutely not! I forbid you to step a foot out of the Unclean Realms!
Nie HuaiSang: Buuuuuut San-geeeeee....
Meng Yao: Not a single toe! Not to mention the pressure of getting a new Heir in case you end up dying, what will your Da-Ge say if he returns from the Cloud Recess early and finds you gone?
Nie HuaiSang: He won't find out. I'll be back before that. I promise. Come on, Wei Wuxian wrote there's a fair going on in Yiling. It will be so much fun!
Meng Yao: No! And you will not sneak out in the middle of the night.
Nie HuaiSang, all pretences gone: Or what? Will you tell Da-Ge about what I did?
Meng Yao: No, I'll tell you what I do to your Da-Ge! No amount of cleansing will clear that memory!
#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#mdzs crack#mdzs headcanons#incorrect mdzs#mxtx fandom#mxtx novels#mxtx mdzs#grandmaster of demonic arts#the grandmaster of diabolism#grand master of demonic cultivation#the untamed headcanons#the untamed#cql#incorrect cql#meng yao#jin guangyao#nie huaisang#nieyao#Da-Ge is away and HuaiSang wants to play#Except Good Deputy Meng Yao is on guard
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#cql: episode 10#my take: he really is intending to go check the security on xue yang's prison cell#it isn't a ploy he isn't faking it#he has too much to lose in terms of his longer term goal of earning jgs's recognition#too much hinges on remaining in good standing with the qinghe nie for him to throw it away over a grudge#so while i don't think that shitty captain was shitty enough to actively let xue yang out or anything#i do think that the guard compliment (complement?) wasn't substantial enough to stop xue yang from escaping#and i do think when meng yao tells nie mingjue that he and the captain argued#and that the captain insulted meng shi#he is telling the truth#also there's no weird creepy smirk in this episode. this isn't the empathy flashback recollection of the past
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rain season
#myart#nieyao#meng yao#jin guangyao#nie mingjue#it was one of small bunch for inktober lol#they're in love your honor#good timeline of qinghe when all is soft and romantic#cql#mdzs
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I was reading a "Meng Yao joins the Yunmeng Jiang Sect" AU when it occurred to me that WWX, JC, & MY would have been so much like Mo Ran, Xue Meng, & Shi Mei. (Also Shijie would have had someone in possession of a brain cell to talk to)
#also YMJ might have had survived the Wens with MY as their advisor#Also do you guys know any good Meng Yao joins YMJ fics?#mdzs#the untamed#cql#mo dao zu shi#chen qing ling#meng yao#jin guangyao#wei wuxian#wei ying#jiang cheng#jiang wanyin#jiang yanli#2ha#erha#husky and his white cat shizun#xue meng#xue ziming#mo ran#mo weiyu#shi mei#shi mingjing
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He was just being a silly little guy!
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#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#jin guangyao#wen ruohan#nie mingjue#lan xichen#JGY's character is the zigging and zagging guy of all time#We love a little meow meow that can bite and scratch and kill you.#We also love a little meow meow that can mewl pathetically!#'He's evil now and torturing his former friend?" ZAG TIME: He's a spy and feels soooo awful about it!!#ZIG TIME: He (probably) didn't need to go that deep into the role and kill as many people as he did.#Something I really love about the sworn brother trio is how they reflect how our feelings distort our perception of others.#Lan Xichen represents how when we love/care about someone -anything they do can be endearing. They aren't manipulative: they are clever.#Its less about rose tinted glasses and more about reframing every look you get of them. The constant justifications you make for them.#They just need a space to be loved! âThey care for me so I will stand by them no matter what to show them I'm there for them!â#While NMJ represents how when you dislike someone - Everything they do is an affront or proof of their foul character.#Everything is a sign. Everything is 'proof' they are just as awful as you want them to be. Every 'good trait' is twisted.#The problem is that most people are just human. They are flawed and they are capable of good and bad things.#Meng Yao's motivations are very complex. Yet he's extremely human all the same. He isn't the saint nor the monster of the story.
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quick, we need to inject some unapologetic positivity into the jgy side of the mdzs fandom. i'll go first:
1) no one in this book is as devoted to their mother as jin guangyao is to meng shi, and i love that about him.
2) can you imagine being newly orphaned and rejected by your only known living relative, penniless and without prospects, only to meet the injured heir to a ravaged sect and choosing to spend what slim resources you have protecting him and keeping him safe? because that's what meng yao did for lan xichen, and i think that's insane (affectionate)
3) what a cultivation prodigy jin guangyao actually was! no formal training, no support from a sect, no guidance from a dedicated teacher or mentor, and he still possesses such a natural gift for the qin that his talent with this instrument is recognized and admired widely across the jianghu. the only cultivators with more raw talent for it than him are members of the gusu lan. iconic.
4) those watchtowers saved hundreds of thousands of commoners' lives, which is, again, something precious few members of the gentry had any interest in investing their time or resources into doing.
5) the reason that post-canon wangxian can fuck nasty on every single exposed surface of the cloud recesses is because jin guangyao spent his slim political capital after the war pressuring jgs into sparing the funds to help rebuild it. say thank you, xiandu.
for once, sect leader yao is right and he should say it.
#mdzs meta#jin guangyao#meng yao#he did crimes??? good for him đ#truly i think we should just spam all the jgy tags with the shit we like about him#a deluge of delight
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There's nothing wrong with JGY that being dead for 13-16 years wouldn't fix.
#he comes back after a decade and we're honestly good to go#being dead absolves your sins#we all know this#50% of what he does is 100% justfied#jin guangyao#meng yao#mdzs#bad takes
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I think it's fascinating how Meng Yao is one of the most cynical characters in mdzs and yet, at the same time, I'd argue, one of the most idealistic.
There are goals jgy has not just for himself but for the world at large and he is very determined to accomplish them. I guess in that way idealism isn't all that far from ambition, and he certainly has ambition in spades. We often view "idealist" characters as those unwilling to compromise morally, and jgy will compromise a lot. But if you look closer, it becomes clear that that is because that underlying goal is so important he is willing to compromise anything but that.
Which makes him a very very interesting character, especially as a major foil to much more classically idealist characters like Nie Mingjue and Wei Wuxian.
#mdzs#mdzs meta#meng yao#jin guangyao#i mean what is the stairs scene but nieyao arguing on what can be compromised for The Greater Good.#many people I think see jgy as someone who doesn't care. and i disagree. he cares a lot. so much that everything else pales in comparison#the ppl who have him beat on idealism are... xxc and sl for sure. nmj. wwx. lwj. That's not a lot of people!!#(the reason I don't say lxc is that i'd argue a lot of xichen's positivity is interpersonal)#(he wants to do good but he's not walking around with lofty ideas on how to change the world. he wants to help the people he loves do that.
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in my ideal mdzs modern au, meng yao dated qin su for maybe 6-8 months before taking a genetics test and finding out they have the same sperm donor. they immediately break it off and meng yao, terrified of how much his dad got around, decides that from here on out he is going to exclusively date men.
at least if he somehow ends up dating a male relative without his knowledge, thereâs no chance of an incest pregnancy scare
#mdzs#jin guangyao#meng yao#qin su#xiyao#if you squint#in the modern era they break up bc 1 qin su was part of the genetics test process and couldnât be kept in the dark#and 2 jgy has to resort to other methods to gain prestige in his dads company. advantageous marriage doesnât help him much here#also to anyone thinking âwell he could still manage a pregnancy acre with a trans manâ meng yao considered that!!#he will simply bottom#i think after this he had a series of messy hookups w xue yang#before they respectively met xxc and lxc started ghosting each other#in order to focus on pretending to be well adjusted individuals for their respective crushes#meng yao is successful in wooing lan xichen#but xue yang is unsuccessful#in fact he ends up in jail#sad#oh also to clarify in this au qin su actually was a sperm donor baby but meng yao was a good old fashion illegitimate child#jgs is such a dead beat tho that meng yao internally considers him a sperm donor either way
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