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AU where Meng Shi was just a bit more cynical and spent her hard-earned on buying Meng Yao study materials for the Imperial Examination instead of dodgy cultivation manuals. Cultivation is for his father to teach him, after all.
Meng Yao fucking blitzes the exam, because of course he does, and the first time he arrives at Koi Tower it's with an imperial mandate to audit the shit out of them for tax purposes.
#meng yao can ruin jin guanshan buearocratically#as a treat#mdzs#jin guangyao#the untamed#grand master of demonic cultivation#grandmaster of demonic cultivation#cql#mxtx#meng yao#jin guangshan#meng shi#all plotbunnies free to a good home
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Lan Wangji: Why can't I have a morally questionable boyfriend when you do?
Lan Xichen: A-Yao isn't morally questionable!!
Lan Wangji: He's literally dragging his sworn brother's corpse right now
Lan Xichen, noticing Jin Guangyao: A-Yao, did you kill da-ge?
Jin Guangyao, dragging Nie Mingjue's corpse: Of course not er-ge, he's just sleeping
Lan Xichen: See Wangji, he's just sleeping
Lan Wangji: ( ,,⩌'︿'⩌,,)
#nmj: xichen - a-yao killed me and brought me back with demonic cultivation#lxc: that doesn't sound good#lxc: a-yao did you kill da-ge and then brought him back?#jgy: no er-ge - he was just sleeping#lxc: see da-ge - you were just sleeping#nmj: ((╬◣﹏◢))#lan wangji#lan zhan#lan xichen#lan huan#jin guangyao#meng yao#wangxian#xiyao#3zun#nie mingjue#mxtx#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#the grandmaster of demonic cultivation#the untamed
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time for another meng yao moment i observed while rewatching cql episode 4 for the purposes of snagging some screenshots: it looks like meng yao is giving wei wuxian the stink-eye because he's worried he's going to rat out nie huaisang for bringing his little canary friend into the lecture hall.
so here's the moment when the bird starts chirping (also i find the caption here exquisitely painful for other reasons, but i'll save that for another post)

poor, poor huaisang. buddy u did not think this through. this is the stuff uhoh.jpeg web comics are made of honestly

then right afterwards we have this exquisite shot of so many of the story's key players all together in one moment as teenagers: there's jiang yanli trying her damnedest to pretend none of this is happening (side note: does her actor also have a background in dance? her ballet-style first position here is really good); jiang cheng looking like he's ready to pitch a shit fit; nie huaisang is EXCEPTIONALLY BAD at hiding how guilty he is; wei wuxian is just the 👀 emoji if someone granted it human form; and then there's meng yao, who is just--

"wei-gongzi you hear nothing. wei-gongzi don't u fuckin say a fuckin word. snitches get stitches wei-gongzi."
#mdzs#cql#meng yao#jin guangyao#nie huaisang#he did crimes??? good for him 😌#let him have birds!! 🕊️#my nhs tag has never been more appropriate tbh
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Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girl found dead in a hidden room.
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#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#lan xichen#jin guangyao#jiang cheng#wei wuxian#qin su#EDIT: Tumblr published an earlier draft with only half the notes I wrote so: late entry on my JGY thoughts.#Unlike the mystic powers of the stockmarket (what the OG meme is referring to) I think this situation calls for more active investigation.#qin su is such a deeply tragic character to me and I really wish we got a bit more from her.#Love everyone who sent me messages about her after the last time she appeared.#I think she needs a spin off of her being a transmigrator SO badly.#MDZS has so many interesting characters - but it sometimes fails to give them the proper room to really develop past a role in the plot.#That's just the consequence of writing a story like MDZS. Not every character in a book *needs* to have a rich inner life and backstory!#To do so would bog down the story and obliterate any notion of pacing. It's just not possible.#Jin Guangyao (nee Meng Yao) is unfortunately not free from this leeway rule. He is the culprit of this murder mystery plot#and thus NEEDS to encapsulate the themes of the book. And personally he's a 7 out of 10 at best on this front (in the AD).#MDZS is about rumours twisting reality and working towards truth. And about how people & situations are rarely ever black & white#JGY has his motivations. He's well written in regards to his actions making sense for his character.#What started as good traits (drive to succeed & improve his image) became twisted over time (do anything to maintain his image)#and it's a good parallel to WWX! He has the same arc (with different traits)! Bonus points for IGY in that regard.#but man....by the time we confront this guy for murder there's not a lot of grey morality. He's just...deep in the hole *he* dug.#There's a beautiful tragedy to it! More on JGY in later comics - this is getting pretty long already!
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Jgy is a class traitor this, jgy is the only person who cares about the common people that. Jgy is the type of guy who would scab during a strike, bring in a union-buster to earn favours from upper management, slowly work his way up to CEO and then give everyone the extra vacation days and payraises they were asking for anyway. Which is an extremely funny type of guy to be. Like, can we all take a break from arguing to agree how fucking hilarious that is?
#mdzs#jin guangyao#meng yao#i've said this before and i'll say it again he's an 'earn to give' guy!#jgy's pure utalitarian outlook combined with his strong awareness that to make an impact he needs power.#makes that he can do something that technically only serves to bring him more power and still see it as a moral act.#because he can use that power to do more good#it's the 'i'll be the only good billionaire' mindset which is bascially always wrong irl!#which makes it even funnier that in book canon where the watchtowers did canonically save thousands jgy is... kind of right.#again i cannot stress enough what a hoot this is. one guy for whom 'earn to give' worked. and he's a serial killer.
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Endlessly gutted by the fact that in a world only *slightly* different than the one he got, Meng Yao could have been one of the most righteous and good characters in all of MDZS instead of one of it's worst villains.
If *one* person had helped his mother, if *one* person had been more vocal about his inherent worth as a person instead of what he can do, if *one person* actually articulated and expressed their trust and love.
And it's *torture*, especially in a reread, to see how close he was to getting that and the consequences when he didn't.
#mzds#meng yao#jin guangyao#like the watchtowers?#the temple he built to honor his mother and care for the unfortunate?#his ability to get people to work together when they otherwise hate each other?#genuinely and unquestionably good!!!#but life made him so closed off and untrusting he did a war crime (or 3) about it
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* Shen Jiu and Meng Yao talking shit about people, one hiding a scowl behind a fan and the other with a smile *
Yue Qingyuan and Lan Xichen: He is innocent on every account your honor.
#svsss#mxtx svsss#shen qingqiu#mxtx#they are so in love with their menaces#shen jiu#yue qingyuan#Yue Qingyuan: my Twink is so spicy and I’ll protect him from anything#Lan Xichen: my Twink is too sweet for his own good and I must protect him#does he have a wife? yes.#he’s still mine though#mdzs#mxtx mdzs#lan xichen#meng yao#jin guangyao#lan huan#scum villain#scum villian self saving system#grandmaster of demonic cultivation#text post
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Their ship dynamic is so similar its crazy
I made a video but change it a bit to have two versions
One without the shadow under cut!
#svsss#mxtx svsss#shen qingqiu#shen jiu#meng yao#jin guangyao#lan xichen#lan huan#artwork#art#digital art#digital drawing#mxtx#their gay your honor#qi ge#yue qingyuan#xiyao#qijiu#it’s adorable how much they love their sly foxes#but jeez none of them get a good ending#mdzs#grandmaster of demonic cultivation#scum villian self saving system
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Meng Yao Gets To Stay For The Lectures
Lan Qiren: -and so the answer would be-?
Meng Yao: *raises hand*
Lan Qiren: As much as I approve of my students getting the correct conclusion, you have answered most other answers today.
Meng Yao: *pouts and lowers hand while NHS giggles*
Wei Wuxian: *raises hand*
Lan Qiren: *temple throbbing* Anyone else? No? Moving on, I guess.
Wei Wuxian: *also pouts*
#and that’s how the twin jades fell in love with pouty little bratty boys#the grandmaster of demonic cultivation#the untamed#mdzs#incorrect mdzs#wei wuxian#incorrect untamed quotes#Meng Yao#my never becomes a sith or whatever he’s a good boy here#NMJ is gonna kick Xichen’s ass if he besmirches mys honor before the wedding night#lxc is gonna get his ass kicked lmao
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Nie Huaisang is my favorite Untamed character because he's the heir to the biggest baddest warrior sect of them all but his best weapons are his mind, his theatrics, and his sense of dramatic irony.
#also the deep pools of feelings he has for others that he doesn't seem all that aware he possesses#he loved meng yao enough to eventually hate him so viciously#(he doesn't just kill him he exposed every dirty pore of him and destroys him utterly)#(it's almost tender to hate someone intimately enough to know every tiny thing about them)#he loves his brother enough to embark on a decade long revenge quest on his behalf#he loves his friend enough to think resurrecting him is a good idea#(when it's a miracle that worked out in his favor)#nie huaisang#the untamed#the grandmaster of demonic cultivation#mxtx#the untamed spoilers#you can tell he's an arts major because he turns his vengeance into some kind of poetic saga
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@little-meowyao a naive and temporary sense of belonging u.u
#mdzs#nieyao#meng yao#jin guangyao#nie mingjue#jgy#nmj#i'm so normal about jgy having nie braids. so normal.#however needing to DRAW nie braids is a whole separate matter what a nightmare#i am so grateful that i get to shove that stupid hat on jgy's head most of the time because trying to figure out how to draw these braids#in a way that is a) recognizable and b) not completely idiotic is brutal#i have no idea if i succeed at either one of these goals#anyway i like to think that the precursor to this picture is:#nie huaisang (intentionally) messing around with meng yao's hair but not actually giving him FORMAL nie braids#(since he's not sect leader he doesn't TECHNICALLY have the right to invite him to do that)#(but he does make a mess of meng yao's hair and meng yao is just waiting for a way to politely slip away and fix it)#nmj sees it though and is like ''you can't walk around like that. you look ridiculous. sit. i'm fixing this.''#at which point he DOES give meng yao proper nie braids#(not that he like. explains anything about them. meng yao is smart he'll understand. obviously.)#nie huaisang is smug as a cat who got the cream when he sees them the next day and promises to teach meng yao how to maintain them#my art#honestly i think nieyao is one of my favourite ships out of any of mxtx's works it's SO good#maybe even top three? they're just so bad for each other on every conceivable level and i want to play with them like a chew toy#i also i want someone to save jgy so badly. so badly.
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Meng Yao(fuming): Absolutely not! I forbid you to step a foot out of the Unclean Realms!
Nie HuaiSang: Buuuuuut San-geeeeee....
Meng Yao: Not a single toe! Not to mention the pressure of getting a new Heir in case you end up dying, what will your Da-Ge say if he returns from the Cloud Recess early and finds you gone?
Nie HuaiSang: He won't find out. I'll be back before that. I promise. Come on, Wei Wuxian wrote there's a fair going on in Yiling. It will be so much fun!
Meng Yao: No! And you will not sneak out in the middle of the night.
Nie HuaiSang, all pretences gone: Or what? Will you tell Da-Ge about what I did?
Meng Yao: No, I'll tell you what I do to your Da-Ge! No amount of cleansing will clear that memory!
#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#mdzs crack#mdzs headcanons#incorrect mdzs#mxtx fandom#mxtx novels#mxtx mdzs#grandmaster of demonic arts#the grandmaster of diabolism#grand master of demonic cultivation#the untamed headcanons#the untamed#cql#incorrect cql#meng yao#jin guangyao#nie huaisang#nieyao#Da-Ge is away and HuaiSang wants to play#Except Good Deputy Meng Yao is on guard
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trying to work up to writing on wrapped in stories in the next few days and found a fragment i'd forgot i'd written of SMS's pov set during the already posted chapters. think I was toying with the idea of writing a SMS-pov fic after the main storyline was done, which means that if I do use it it'll be a whiiiile yet. anyway i don't want to wait that long to wave it around so here it is
Xue Yang, in the other room, is clearly telling a story. A cup clinks. Meng Shi hums through a mouthful of liquid, coughs a little. Su Minshan can't recall the last time he's seen Meng Yao prepare her medicine, or sit with her while she takes it. He's attentive to her in many other ways, but Xue Yang guards the duties he's chosen with jealous zeal, as if it's a privilege to measure out bitter herbs and boiling water. Perhaps it is. Su Minshan is well acquainted with the fulfillment of service. It's just nothing he'd ever imagined Xue Yang taking pleasure in. Xue Yang had always been impatient with wounds, disgusted by weakness, in himself and others. This is utterly unlike him, Su Minshan thinks, and then unbidden an image blooms in his mind; a memory from a vanished time. A young, hollow-eyed man hunched over a Spirit-Trapping Pouch. Daozhang, he croons to it, unaware of Su Minshan's presence, his tender tone a stark contrast to the mocking way he'd spoken of its contents only earlier that day. I'm sorry, look, I can say that, so why can't you forgive me? Everything's still waiting for you—I'm taking care of your body, it's as good as new, and the house is clean for once, even though A-Qing won't do shit to help… Just forget about that shitty day, okay? And Su Minshan, taking back his step forward to bring him out of Xue Yang's line of sight, had thought a few things one after the other. That Xue Yang has gone mad; that in doing so he seems to have finally aged, a man—however young—instead of the cute little brat with no human feeling; that it seems he'd been in love. How, he didn't hazard to guess, or whether Xue Yang would ever use such words. But Su Minshan had understood, finally, how Xue Yang had fallen off the edge of the world for a while. How he'd been content in a ramshackle house with the blinded half-helpless immortal who'd fallen so hard to earth. So, perhaps this life is merely coaxing a cracked and half-frozen bud into full bloom. In Xue Yang's laughing, cruel affection there had existed a faint impulse to care, and in this life where he'd been sheltered and fed and treated as human the impulse had grown to a cornerstone of his character, mostly without Su Minshan's notice. He's vexed at himself for not observing it sooner; Xue Yang seems to have fallen in love with Jiang Yanli half because the girl is ill and politely, nobly suffers about it. If Su Minshan had understood in time, he could have searched the beggars' camps for some pretty youth with a missing leg and a less dangerous pedigree to throw in Xue Yang's path.
#sms 'is this a pigeon meme' w/'xue yang's desire to take care of people he likes'#'is this a disability fetish'#but fr i am obsessed with the sms-xy dynamic in this au i neeed to get past this sticking point in WiS#so I can get to their interactions later#'i learned you considered me your friend shortly before you died on me and i tried to just repress how i felt about that'#'anyway then i broke time to save someone else and was trying to change as little as possible otherwise'#'but then guilt over not preventing your death kicked in so i took you#(one of the most significant linchpins in my version of history) out of your hometown to raise you in a completely different environment'#'but i will be surprised pikachu face about you not turning out the way you did in history A'#'and then have a crisis over whether i've essentially 'killed' you 'again' because you've become a different person'#meanwhile xue yang is like 'shizun is fucking weird he stared at me fixedly for like fifteen minutes earlier#and then asked how i felt about revenge'#meng yao just like 'yeah I don't know what's going on with him either'#wrapped in stories (the ones where we were good)#gay necromancy: the show#(:the book in this case)
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quick, we need to inject some unapologetic positivity into the jgy side of the mdzs fandom. i'll go first:
1) no one in this book is as devoted to their mother as jin guangyao is to meng shi, and i love that about him.
2) can you imagine being newly orphaned and rejected by your only known living relative, penniless and without prospects, only to meet the injured heir to a ravaged sect and choosing to spend what slim resources you have protecting him and keeping him safe? because that's what meng yao did for lan xichen, and i think that's insane (affectionate)
3) what a cultivation prodigy jin guangyao actually was! no formal training, no support from a sect, no guidance from a dedicated teacher or mentor, and he still possesses such a natural gift for the qin that his talent with this instrument is recognized and admired widely across the jianghu. the only cultivators with more raw talent for it than him are members of the gusu lan. iconic.
4) those watchtowers saved hundreds of thousands of commoners' lives, which is, again, something precious few members of the gentry had any interest in investing their time or resources into doing.
5) the reason that post-canon wangxian can fuck nasty on every single exposed surface of the cloud recesses is because jin guangyao spent his slim political capital after the war pressuring jgs into sparing the funds to help rebuild it. say thank you, xiandu.

for once, sect leader yao is right and he should say it.
#mdzs meta#jin guangyao#meng yao#he did crimes??? good for him 😌#truly i think we should just spam all the jgy tags with the shit we like about him#a deluge of delight
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He was just being a silly little guy!
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#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#jin guangyao#wen ruohan#nie mingjue#lan xichen#JGY's character is the zigging and zagging guy of all time#We love a little meow meow that can bite and scratch and kill you.#We also love a little meow meow that can mewl pathetically!#'He's evil now and torturing his former friend?" ZAG TIME: He's a spy and feels soooo awful about it!!#ZIG TIME: He (probably) didn't need to go that deep into the role and kill as many people as he did.#Something I really love about the sworn brother trio is how they reflect how our feelings distort our perception of others.#Lan Xichen represents how when we love/care about someone -anything they do can be endearing. They aren't manipulative: they are clever.#Its less about rose tinted glasses and more about reframing every look you get of them. The constant justifications you make for them.#They just need a space to be loved! “They care for me so I will stand by them no matter what to show them I'm there for them!”#While NMJ represents how when you dislike someone - Everything they do is an affront or proof of their foul character.#Everything is a sign. Everything is 'proof' they are just as awful as you want them to be. Every 'good trait' is twisted.#The problem is that most people are just human. They are flawed and they are capable of good and bad things.#Meng Yao's motivations are very complex. Yet he's extremely human all the same. He isn't the saint nor the monster of the story.
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I think it's fascinating how Meng Yao is one of the most cynical characters in mdzs and yet, at the same time, I'd argue, one of the most idealistic.
There are goals jgy has not just for himself but for the world at large and he is very determined to accomplish them. I guess in that way idealism isn't all that far from ambition, and he certainly has ambition in spades. We often view "idealist" characters as those unwilling to compromise morally, and jgy will compromise a lot. But if you look closer, it becomes clear that that is because that underlying goal is so important he is willing to compromise anything but that.
Which makes him a very very interesting character, especially as a major foil to much more classically idealist characters like Nie Mingjue and Wei Wuxian.
#mdzs#mdzs meta#meng yao#jin guangyao#i mean what is the stairs scene but nieyao arguing on what can be compromised for The Greater Good.#many people I think see jgy as someone who doesn't care. and i disagree. he cares a lot. so much that everything else pales in comparison#the ppl who have him beat on idealism are... xxc and sl for sure. nmj. wwx. lwj. That's not a lot of people!!#(the reason I don't say lxc is that i'd argue a lot of xichen's positivity is interpersonal)#(he wants to do good but he's not walking around with lofty ideas on how to change the world. he wants to help the people he loves do that.
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