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MDZS AU where Jiang Cheng realizes that Lan Sizhui is the Wen orphan that Wei Wuxian took care off during the Burial Mounds arc, decides that's close enough to qualify him as Nephew, declares that no Nephew of His (much less a surrogate son of Wei Wuxian's) is going to be raised in the Cloud Recedes, and immediately launches into a custody battle with Lan Wangji.
But since neither Jiang Cheng or Lan Wangji can acknowledge that Sizuhi has any connection to Wei Wuxian, both begin steadfastly and stubbornly insisting that he is a Cultivator of peerless potential and skill and he belongs in their sect thank you very much, and would clearly be very unhappy in the other's. This confuses the hell out of the already mystified Cultivation world, who had barely adjusted yet to gossiping about Sizhui being Wangji's illegitimate child by mysterious love affair.
(Eventually the common consensus in the rumor mills is that both JC and LW where in love with Sizhui's mother and both believe themselves to be Sizhui's real father.)
(LW couldn't care less what gossips say, but JC has to bite his tongue till it bleeds to avoid telling anyone the truth in a fit of anger.)
(It was Nie Huaisang who put that rumor out in the first place, partly to troll JC, partly because, in a way, it's a little true.)
#MDZS#mo dao zu shi#the grandmaster of demonic cultivation#the untamed#Jiang Cheng#lan wangji#lan sizhui#wei wuxian#Wangxian#nie huaisang#mdzs shitposting hour#thoughts that come to me in line for take out#in the end they settle on joint custody#half the year in the cloud receces half the year at lotus pier#but not after first re-litigating every point of contention in the 'wei wuxian should have come with ME' argument#poor sizhui is just confused and a little overwhelmed by the whole thing#being assigned nephew by Jiang Cheng is an honor and a horror at the same time#just ask Jin Ling#also he dosen't feel worthy of all this attention#but in a weird reverse self fulfilling prophecy sort of way#with both LW and JC to train him#he does end up one of the best cultivators of his generation#then WWX comes back and complicates things EVEN FURTHER#but somehow LS's joint custody situation is enough to prompt a Jiang Sibling reconciliation#and eventually LW begrudgingly agrees to live a few months out of the year at Lotus Pier#everyone is happy but the family dinners at first at awkwarddddddd
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mxtxnet's october event | day 31: wei wuxian
#theuntamededit#theuntameddaily#mxtxnet#asiandramanet#cdrama#userkareena#cdramasource#cdramaedit#mdzs#the untamed#wei wuxian#xiao zhan#mxtxtober#*#yes i know in his second life he's supposed to be shorter but idc#and im being super generous when i call him a father figure#especially now that the spanish dub is out and we know the real wwx#tutp
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i will always appreciate that mxtx, intentionally (more likely) or unintentionally subverted the expectation of “humans always focus on the negative” sharply off the cliff edge and made wei wuxian a complete antithesis of that sentiment, wherein, he seems to almost always decisively ignore the negatives (after he has processed them in some capacity) and focus on the positive. it’s like amidst the dark, stormy, cloudy mire of his life, he always manages to find the silver lining and amplify it enough that its weight outdoes the worst experiences he suffers through. you could call it a coping mechanism but i honestly think it’s a different but just as valid fundamental outlook on life. wei wuxian has such an undercurrent of optimism about him and none of it stems from naïveté or ignorance or a sheltered life. it’s that wei wuxian can live through a life of loss and grief and unfairness and still find it in himself to be happy, to hope, to live. it’s that despite everything, he can be optimistic. that’s why it matters so much. that’s why i think it’s such a beautiful piece of characterisation–and a very grounded one at that. it doesn’t feel cheaply done. wei wuxian’s emotions don’t feel paper-thin. his disregard for the negatives only adds to his complexity, instead of taking away from it. and it just makes me think that if this guy, if wei “cultivation world’s biggest enemy” wuxian can find happiness once more, what excuse do we have to not make an effort to achieve the same?
#yes yes wwx is fictional and we are not but what was that quote about art reflecting life; exactly exactly#i just think in general these fictional people impart way too many lessons for us to not learn atleast smth worthwhile from them#wei wuxian and his understated but ever-present optimism#i have literally made this post and point before just in different words im crying i just yap circles around this guy atp#wei wuxian appreciation#wei wuxian meta#wei wuixan#mxtx mdzs#mdzs#mo dao zu shi
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#canon interaction#ghost general and still not the goblin in this scenario#ethical or non ethical necromancy#say what you want about em but#wwx and wn bestiess#mdzs#wei wuxian#the untamed#lan wangji#wen ning
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something about how both wei wuxian and jin guangyao repeatedly say they ‘didn’t have a choice’ in their actions. in both cases, it’s not literal impossibility, instead determined by their mindsets and personal conduct…. but while for wei wuxian that means he can’t do something immoral, even if it means losing all his social power, for jin guangyao it means he can’t do anything to lose his social power, even if it means doing something immoral. the other option is still there, but it’s never one they’d pick.
something about how they’re trying to walk the same path but in opposite directions: wei wuxian willingly left the nice, broad road in favour of upholding morals and debts, while jin guangyao is trying to claw onto it and stay there by any means necessary. in both cases, being parted from it so easily is only possible because this nice, broad road — full of people whose social power is unconditional, given at birth, independent of their actions — was never truly theirs to begin with. but despite how it is possible to be forced off due to nothing, as we see with wang lingjiao, the positions of both these characters were ultimately due to actions they took.
(about how no matter the similarity of the paths, no matter the narrowness of the choices, the direction you take is still up to you.)
#i’m a little insane about this metaphor in case you couldn’t tell#also clarification: ‘immoral’ for the case of wwx means something against his personal morals (a major example would be giving up the wens)#whereas for jgy i mean ‘something generally against most people’s morals eg killing his son and participating in torture’#since he doesn’t really HAVE personal morals and his goals are independent on that#but phrasing it like this is much less awkward…#anyway i LOVE the theme of choice here — how everyone *does* have one but aims/morals influence that to the point that choosing a certain-#-option SEEMS like an impossibility#but you still are responsible/should be responsible for those choices (see: the story justfully questioning jgy’s ‘i had no choice’ line)#so jgy WAS responsible for his choices (and wwx *could’ve* also chosen to do what’s easier — not giving up the gc not protecting the wens)#(but didn’t and that’s to his credit)#despite the circumstances for both being unideal it’s still your choice IN the circumstances — not the circumstances — that determine what-#-kind of person you are#mdzs meta (?)#pretty sure it counts but i also know i’ve been taking up a lot of this tag recently…#mdzs#魔道祖师#mo dao zu shi#grandmaster of demonic cultivation#gdc#wei wuxian#jin guangyao#my meta (?)
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bros don't let bros walk around with their chest torn open
#mdzs#grandmaster of demonic cultivation#wen ning#wei wuxian#wwx#the untamed#mdzs book 5 spoilers#i find this little scene absolutely hilarious and i would honestly love a fic about wei wuxian experimenting with ways to patch wen ning up#and generally making everyone really uncomfortable about him casually shoving his hands into wen ning's chest while wen ning is just vibing#like it's no big deal#yiling patriarch and ghost general are the best bros#(yes yes i know the injury is not that big in the book but i needed it to be comically large enough for wwx to look through)#my art
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No longer just a young master,
No longer just jiujiu’s a-ling
#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#mdzs fanart#mxtx mdzs#魔道祖师#jin ling#jl#金凌#i have just been reminded that he IS now the jin clan leader#so now i must remind everyone too#i gave him the stance kinda like jin zixuan from him audio drama illust#i mean like father like son am i right ;)#idk i think it really got me that jl is now the clan leader#jl (and sizhui) are the ones that had been affected the most in the new generation by all that happened#he had to become the clan leader in quite a similar way to jc (but not as intense) that they both were not aware the day would come so quick#jc had to do it all alone and build everything up from zero while also having to raise jl#but now jl has his jiujiu to guide him ahhh im so soft for them istg#imagine being jc trying to keep the only thing. the only bits of love that his sister left behind#and now he sees jl grow up into a clan leader. into something he was meant to be#bro is this how maternal instinct kicks in i can’t#im going insane#and even though wwx/lwj/jc gen were the ones having to face all the trauma to end everything. jl’s gen still has to deal w some consequences#but they will be the last one#jl becoming the jin clan leader is one step closer to making everything better#yes that’s my take thank you very much#now i’ll go be insane again
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to continue my tradition of mdzs height posting, another character besides mo xuanyu who is routinely and unjustly described as tiny: Wen Qing.
according to the officially released heights, she and jin guangyao are roughly the same size. about five and a half feet tall.
which is on the small side for a man even in china, though not in medieval china, and is ofc loads smaller than the ridiculous giants making up most of the cultivator elite, but is not actually a small person.
that's statistically above average for a woman even in the modern US; in modern china it is often hard for women that height to find off-the-rack clothes. in a historical chinese setting she is mildly gargantuan. five foot six is a positively unmaidenly height.
wei wuxian (as i've previously discussed) is slightly over six feet tall at his original full growth, which is stupid tall even when you're an aristocrat who didn't starve as a child. wen qing is, in turn, too tall for wei wuxian to hook his chin over her head, even if he stands on his toes, unless she ducks.
he's got maybe more than half a head on her. she could headbutt him in the nose from a standing start, as could most adult men because he's a freak.
wen qing would walk among a group of normal-in-context women like a turkey among hens. she is not tiny.
i know cql kind of made her look that way, but in fairness their version of lan wangji is a stick of no great height also. and even on cql she's not particularly small, just exceedingly pale and slim with big eyes. i truly do not know why it's so popular to conceptualize her as teeny-tiny, except maybe for the contrast value. it's not even hornyposting.
#hoc est meum#mdzs#meta#wen qing#no sleep posting yay#averages#modern people run a lot taller than historical people on average#this is generally not because of any changes in the genestock you dig#it's because modern people statistically eat more consistently#get way more protein#and are way less prone to serious childhood diseases that if survived often stunt the growth#idk how much of the cultivator gigantism should be attributed to disease resistance and wealth#and how much to selective breeding#but wen qing is getting full measure of all these advanages#wwx gets none but is still huge which is the subject of#other posts of mine#fandom has no sense of scale#but in fairness neither does mxtx
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it's been so long since ive done anything mdzs so, post canon wangxian decide to go on a real vacation. except. neither of them can actually laze around and enjoy it
wwx's mind has thought up three new things to make within the first hour, lwj has already done everything he can, he's cooked meals, organized their luggage, leisurely basked in the presence of his husband.. but! they both decide to preserve, going on ambling walks together and sitting and watching the stars. It's nice.
Just nice.
Then, the village that they were holidaying in encountered a problem with a mischievous Yao, and how could they not help?
After outsmarting the Yao, and helping repair the village, wangxian lay down and find that relaxation, for them, is best found in each other, and helping others
When asked about their vacation, wangxian fondly recounts working together to locate the Yao, then putting their expertise and experience together to fashion a trap, the thrilling chase, wrangling their wiley captive, setting to rights an auntie's house in the aftermath.
something about wangxian loving being together and how they cherish that time, but how when they're both running together, united in heart and purpose, helping the common people and working side-by-side, and how they don't really need a work-life balance because (this is so cheesy my god) for post canon wangxian it's not duty, it's not work, it's all love.
Love for each other
Love for their profession
Love of generosity
Wangxian loves being generous. I think that's one of my favorite things about them.
#this isnt my best work but i missed mdzs so take this#wangxian#wei wuxian#lan wangji#post canon#mdzs au#wangxian is so generous!! i cant get over it. it hit me as i was writing this really quickly#wei wuxian is generous#lan wangji is generous#what they have they give#theyre so generous to others#to each other#even to the point of sacrifice. especially for wwx#idk theyre just so neat#not meta by any standpoint just me liking these two
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"Wen Ning hadn't gone over to help support Wei Wuxian in the first place, nor followed them into the cabin. Instead, he crouched on the deck outside. The boys had found this strange at first, wondering why he didn't go in. It was only now that they realized just how wise the Ghost General truly was."
Wen Ning: Follow Hanguang-Jun as he bridal carries Wei-gongzi into a small enclosed area? After a fraught day of fighting corpses, getting dissed by the cultivation world again, and meeting dead loved ones? No I Do Not Think I Shall.
#mdzs#mdzs meta#rereading mdzs#wei wuxian#wwx#lwj#lan wangji#wangxian#wen ning#ghost general and professional third wheel wen ning
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I'm obsessed with the idea of Mo Xuanyu living but the story has not changed that much with him living.
Like, Mo Xuanyu does the soul sacrifice ritual and instead of his body being taken over by Wei Wuxian, it brings him back in his old body and Mo Xuanyu qi deviates on the spot instead. Instead of dying, he turns into a toddler and loses all of his memories.
Before Wei Wuxian can start his second life taking care of a toddler, Nie Huaisang comes in and yoinks Mo Xuanyu cuz can't have him throw a wrench in his plans. So while Wei Wuxian goes off to solve the mystery of the arm, fall in love with Lan Wangji, and live his second life the best way he can, Nie Huaisang is mostly at home taking care of a toddler and trying not to get too attached.
Bonus:
After the main plot, Jiang Cheng goes to the Unclean Realm to confront Nie Huaisang about the whole everything where he discovers that Mo Xuanyu is alive. He also discovers that Nie Huaisang is not that great at parenting and sort of shoves his way to show Huaisang the proper ways of taking care of a toddler. It helps that Mo Xuanyu is cute and small and reminds Jiang Cheng of Jin Ling when he was a toddler.
#yes this is my second post about mxy living#what can i say i like him#*picks mxy up like a potato* i just think he's neat#also before ppl point out that wouldn't ppl just recognize wwx#yes they do but not the general public since they think he's an ugly guy#so wwx gets away mostly scott free#mdzs#grandmaster of demonic cultivation#mo xuanyu#wei wuxian#nie huaisang#jiang cheng#sangcheng#mo dao zu shi#lan wangji
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Accidentally went on MDZS twt and saw a "wwx was SO affected by classism" (valid by itself) take and the subsequent "yzy and jc called him the son of a servant all the time!" (Former did, latter literally says "what kind of servant has their master peeling Lotus roots for them?" He is still classist but I think it's pretty clear wwx is Family to him) takes. For good measure, JGY's name was also thrown around a bit "I don't know how anyone can sympathize with him, classism or poverty or not..." well.
There was also an LQR picked on wwx because he was a servant explanation that got quite a few likes... And I was just... Blocking people left and right for my peace of mind. I was so glad for a second that I've built my own bubble here.
#why people want to make wwx out to be some revolutionary product of classism uwu messiah is beyond me#like see jgy is right here#ofc wwx experienced classism but i just do not see it having the narrative weight they insist it did#his story was more about belonging somewhere in general imo...#its an interesting layer where hed caught between gentry and subordinate and disciple and servant's son#not exactly fitting in#but like... not a very good classism commentary - and thats ok its just not his story#wei wuxian#jin guangyao#literally just block me if you dont agree with this i have seen enough discourse to last a lifetime thanks#jiang cheng#gaya haterpost#mdzs
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do yall ever think about the fact that there will probably never be a protagonist like wei wuxian ever again or are yall normal?? he’s such a well-rounded, dynamic, all-encompassing PACKAGE of a character that it’s actually been a trouble for me to sink my teeth into epic fantasies these last few years because the MCs are such a huge hit or a miss for most of them and no character in my adult recreational reading career has ever managed to endear me as much wei wuxian has. he MAKES mdzs for me. without his manner of thinking, his method of interacting with the people and world around him, his backstory, his everything, mdzs would not be such a compelling and hard-hitting tale despite having all the elements to make an epic narration. like this guy has set the standard for main characters to be WAY too high. god fucking damn it.
#just another raging about awesome a character wei wuxian is#im so biased but he’s literally got EVERYTHING!#wei wuxian appreciation#wei wuxian#mdzs#i have found stories whose plots i like better than mdzs and i have read fiction in the past with characters i am DEEPLY fond of#but wwx is like a once-in-a-generation kind of character who will stick with me#it’s literally insane that a story as heavy as mdzs is my comfort read now because i’m so familiar with wwx and ofc the entire cast
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went screencapping for a shitpost and ended up sitting here with feelings about how, in CQL's staging of the confrontation at Nightless City, Wen Ruohan steps in and attacks Nie Mingjue in direct response to Nie Mingjue attacking Meng Yao. Wen Ruohan's just sitting there chilling until it looks like Meng Yao might genuinely get hurt, at which point he uses his Ambiguously Defined Yin Iron Powers not to hurt Nie Mingjue, but to haul him across the room away from Meng Yao.
And on the one hand, if he one-hit KO'd Nie Mingjue right then and there, we wouldn't get a cool fight scene where Nie Mingjue overexerted himself obliterating Wen guards and trying to take a shot at Wen Ruohan himself... BUT they could've just had Wen Ruohan shoot Ambiguously Defined Evil Magic at him and only succeed in wounding him, which would set up the same fight and make him look like even more of a badass. Or at least have the hauling-away be with a Force choke kind of thing like we see him do with Xue Yang earlier. But it's not! He's just grabbing him and pulling him away, with the effect that his primary motivation seems to just be protecting his new best employee and replacement son! RIP Meng Yao, you were briefly and accidentally someone's favorite kid, but unfortunately it was the guy who was too obviously evil to function.
#got a lot of feelings in general about how WRH is like... a pretty decent dad? at least compared to the rest of these losers?#he's a very shitty uncle! in CQL canon he is NOT doing a great job with WQ to put it mildly!#but we see him actually caring about WX and WC in a way that we don't see JGS care about JZX#and arguably don't even really see JFM caring about JC#WRH actually tells WC he did a good job once or twice I'm pretty sure#whereas JFM's main response to JC saving WWX from the xuanwu was to chide him for not also needing to be rescued from the xuanwu
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I don't think that enough post canon depictions of wei "no precedent? I'll be the precedent!" wuxian lean enough into the fact that at his core he is a man with a lot of ambition. I need to see more mad scientist wei wuxian I am so serious
#I think because he's more mature postres and is like married in his 40s it means he no longer strives for the impossible#also like just because he doesn't flaunt it as much does Not mean he's no longer cocky#you can see in guanyin temple how much he relishes in reminding everyone he's the most powerful cultivator of their generation#weirdly I think this is in part due to homophobia... like wei wuxian is so much made into lan wangji's 'house wife' yknow#anyway. let that man invent dangerous and exciting contraptions#ghost posts#text#wwx#***I think people thing lmao#PEOPLE THINK#good god
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Up High!
[First] Prev <–-> Next
#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#wei wuxian#lan wangji#'I'm going to truncate this episode' -> immediately draws a second comic about Xue Yang's arm getting ripped off#This was the original no.88 and i think i COULD have merged them but I rather reflect then fully re-do it.#The crushed up candy in XY's hand makes me miserable and melancholic. So I need to make it funny.#The callousness at the candy is so interesting to me. I think on some level he understands why#but he's equally disgusted by Xue Yang's actions at this point#WWX in general has *no* tolerance for twisted affections. 'Don't care if you fell in love. Get Better Asshole.'#Kind of a consistent motif in how he reacts to other peoples feelings of affection#maybe his own too? Later in this episode and ep4 we see him very conflicted about his own affections#god maybe he earnestly doesn't really understand affection in any form. This....this makes sense.#not even going to get into the yumeng sibling drama. That's prob the most affection he allows and even then....its a mess.
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