#fight me hellen

[hellenismrules]

Ngl all the reactions to my post on the groups of olympians scared the shit out of me

Also why are like- half of you guys Apollon Devotees (I have nothing against you guys- it’s just something I’ve noticed 🤣)

One of these days I’ll actually make a post about myself and with some basic info and pin it but as of right now I just

I just don’t have the brain capacity rn

Aaanyyyways, my next post will be on the Greek Underworld (or a post I’ll pin about myself, maybe both) and I’ll try and post that tonight- these take a while because I write everything down first in my bigass Latin Trapperkeeper so if I have no internet I can still fact check myself with the stuff I have written down- so please be patient- as always you can request for me to write a whole post on a specific deity it just might take a while since I am only a Junior in high school (year 11) so I’m super stressed and mentally exhausted as a 16yr old, especially since I’m turning 17 soon

[starfacenix]

*shakes fist* darn you Helios.

I hate the summertime.

I hate the heat, how it makes my skin feel, how unbearable it is, and how it makes me irritable. Lots of people get seasonal depression when the winter time comes around, but my depression has always gotten worse around the summertime.

And with the summertime, of course, comes with how much harder the sun shines down on us.

For months now, even before I jumped back into working with the gods and worshiping them, I’ve been, albeit sarcastically, muttering under my breath to Helios whenever the sun shines a little too brightly on me.

I’ve never reached out to him properly. I think I’m a little nervous to do so, actually. But it’s become something of a routine.

There’s a window in my bathroom that gives the sun the perfect chance to blind me while I’m showering. It’s happened dozens upon dozens of times. But now when it happens, I both praise and shake my fist at Helios.

It’s a jokingly antagonistic relationship, I think. I continue to battle between how unpleasant I find the sun and how the warmth of it will sometimes be just enough to make my shoulders relax; how it shining on me will allow me to take a deep breath and wash my hair while sunbeams hit my face, making my vision bright red even with my eyes closed.

I’ve found that by involving the gods in everything in my day to day life and routine, it’s made life just a bit more bearable and interesting.

While I still can’t stand the sun, I greet Helios with a smile.

The warmth I feel from the sun feels just a little less brutal than usual.

[royal-wren]

I was talking about the Hermes and Athene thing last week and today on the road home, she literally put her hand on my shoulder (mentally) and told me to chill as far as speed. I said what, is a cop coming? and got an immediate yes from her and not a minute and a half later they were right there. Hearing gods and being god-bothered (affectionate) is a double-edged sword.

[softapollo]

hermes was just... so nice and direct in a reading and im just kinda here like ;_; oh....

how does this keep happening lmao

[blossoming-dawn]

Can I manage to mediate and chill with Aphrodite every day? Sure!!

Does it still get me enough energy to get into the shower on a regular basis? NO!!!

[hiya-im-mary]

If there’s a movie made for LM3,I feel like Hellen should have a transatlantic accent!! Though,only when she has makeup on. Once she’s in her true form,that accent fades!

[snowyfrostshadows]

Hellen Gravely and her fifty GAJILLION lasers!

As if the absurd numbers of lasers in the boss fight wasn't enough, she floods the switch area too. Repeatedly.

[katerinaaqu]

Odysseus: Beloved by Athena

Gets hit by a boar who barely misses his bone and arteries. Is called to a 10 year war he never wished to be in and is being pushed by his peers do the most dirty work and traumatizing things. Single-handedly conquers a city and regrets it his whole life afterwards, spends 10 years in an arduous trip losing all his companions in the most nightmarish ways possible gets imprisoned and raped, enchanted and shipwrecked nearly loses his life and comes back to his house to find it full of thug princes who want to marry his wife and kill his son. He has to kill them all then prepare for a riot in his own kingdom that doesn't happen thankfully and then he will have to travel again to appease Poseidon before he can finally return home.

Diomedes: Beloved by Athena

Is orphaned at toddler/child age because his father was mortally wounded and in a moment of madness he performed cannibalism and Athena wasn't able to stop him. He is sworn revenge for his father since a child. He fights a war at a tender age he becomes a king of his own right and gets married probably before the age of 16. He fights another war to restore his grandfather to the throne. He is dragged to a 10 year long war where he plays central role and he is still pushed around by most his peers. He goes back to find his wife cheating on him and he is exiled of his own kingdom. He spends years in a foreign land and country founding cities and establishing hellenism before he is honored as a God.

Me: Athena, my girl...perhaps you should start worrying a bit LESS for your minions would ya?

[howtofightwrite]

Most traditional boxing instructors will tell you that if the opponent is taller than you, has longer arms than you, or is heavier than you, you're fucked and you need to stay extremely aware and work really hard to compensate for all the advantage he has over you.

In a recent forensic survey, it was determined that most traditional boxing instructors who get into real world altercations die when they're shot in the head.

This is the problem with a lot of these kinds of arguments. No one practices traditional boxing. At least, no one does so publicly. How do I know this? Because traditionally boxers fought in the nude. Yeah, we're not seeing that, are we? Now, maybe they meant bare knuckle boxing, but really no one does that either, these days. Boxing without safety equipment is not a particularly good idea, for fairly obvious reasons.

The only reason the word, “traditional,” is in the ask is to lend their statement unearned credibility. It's an attempt to make their statement sound more authoritative, without offering any evidence to support the statement.

Who said that?

“Traditional people did.”

Okay, but, 'traditionally,' people cleaned shit off their ass with a stick. So, maybe appealing to Hellenic sports isn't the best gauge of how a fight will play out.

Also, I know I just said it, but, who are these authoritative sports guys? Because they're not named. We're simply told, “most,” of them agree. Which starts to sound a lot like “four out of five dentists agree.” Who are these instructors? What do they teach? Why are the currently in prison for indecent exposure? And how much did you pay them to get their uninformed opinion? Salient questions which may need to be answered, if the original question wasn't invalid on its face.

Why do I say it's invalid?

Because boxing isn't fighting.

Boxing is a sport.

Boxing has rules.

Kick your opponent in the groin, or shin, and you're punished.

Step on their foot, push them, and watch them tumble to the ground before you start stomping on them, and you'll be punished.

Throwing your opponent will be punished.

And of course, as mentioned at the top, pulling out a gun and expanding your opponent's mental horizons is extremely frowned upon.

These are all things that can happen in a real fight.

These are all things that do not benefit from increased height or reach.

There is one genuinely accurate statement. In a fight, you do need to be very aware of what's going on around you. Everything else is the product of someone who's been punched in the head repeatedly until the CTEs got them thinking that boxing is analogous to a real fight in any way. (And, statistically, will probably end their career sitting in a jail cell over an aggravated assault charge, because their emotional self-control was completely destroyed by those same head injuries.)

The rules that boxers need to follow are designed to (somewhat) protect the participants. It reduces the dangers of a boxer being killed in the ring. In an observation that I would hope to be self-evident, those rules don't exist in actual combat.

It's also amusing, because the original Asker had to go so far as to single out an ill-defined, “traditional” boxing, because no other martial art they checked gave them the soundbite they wanted.

And, of course, women box. Historically, you could say, “traditionally,” there were even boxing matches between men and women. It wasn't until the 1880s that women were excluded from competitive boxing in the UK. (I'm not sure of the exact date when women were banned from boxing in the US, though that prohibition lasted for less than a century, before the modern return of women to the sport.)

So, either these “traditional instructors” don't know the history of their own sport... which doesn't sound particularly “traditional” to me, or they're full of shit.

My advice to everyone would be, maybe, don't take the advice of a sports coach about how he's secretly an absolute badass in all the delusional fantasies he's cooked up about how he'd like to inflict violence on others because they wouldn't date him.

-Starke

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[cosmic-ghost-hermit]

Which hellenic deity is reaching out to you?

Take what resonates and leave the rest behind but always be open to new experiences. Also thank you so much for all the support from yall. I really appreciate everyones feedback on my readings. It really solidifies the idea that i can do this professionally. I hope my readings assist yall more 💙

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PILE ONE

Astrology: Leo, Aquarius, Capricorn

Cards: 3 of pentacles, 10 of wands, 4 of swords, big picture thinking

Song: Beginnings by Madeon

Hey there, friend! You have a couple different deities from the hellenistic pantheon reaching out to you. Three to be exact. It seems like they have been reaching out to you for a while now. Either you haven't noticed or they have been keeping their identities secret from you. They have been watching you work your ass off trying to handle everything on your own. It seems like you have been rejecting their help because you have some pride in doing things independently. They want you to know that you are not weak by accepting help from anyone. The door is open to work with them if you ever you want to accept them. I see very clearly Lady Athena wants your attention. She has been looking after you since you were born. She is the main deity reaching out to you. There is also Lord Ares reaching out as well. I can deduce pretty easily that you have been through war your whole life. It could be internal war but it could also be literal. Both Lady Athena and Lord Ares want to take over the war for you so you don't need to fight anymore. They want you to rest. They want to take care of you so you can have a breath of fresh air that you don't breathe in battle. You have been fighting for so long. The last deity who wants to work with you is Mother Gaia herself. She wants to scoop you up in a cradle of comfort. I see you are a truly environmentally conscientious person and she really really likes that about you. I see you trying your best to be waste-free. She really likes when you go outside and appreciate her regularly. She sits with you whenever you are on your porch. The beautiful thing about all three of these entities reaching out to you is that it is an invitation. It is not a demand. They want to help you because they like you and everything you do intuitively. You really wouldn't have to change anything drastically about your routine to work with them. They love you for you and are only asking to help take some stuff off your plate.

PILE TWO

Astrology: Gemini, Libra, Pisces

Cards: Knight of Swords, Page of Cups, 7 of Cups, Water Your Garden

Song: Family by Mother Mother

Hello, pile 2! You have two deities reaching out to you. Lord Ares has been asking to work with you for months. I see that you might be too scared to work with him. You have definitely noticed his call already. You have seen vultures, horses, dragons' and dogs in places you should not have seen them. That's Lord Ares calling out to you. In dreams, he might appear to you as a shadowy figure even if it isn't a dark setting. He's seen how lonely you have been. He wants to help you. You don't need to be scared believe me. Mythologically he is probably the safest male god you could work with. He is a protector of SA survivors. I dunno if you have heard about the myth when he slaughtered his daughter's assaulter. I think the way you view Lord Ares is understandable. He is portrayed as this scary war god but genuinely he represents a lot more than just war. He is also a minor god of dance 💃 He wants you to know he wants to keep you safe and protect you. Lord Apollo is also reaching out to you. I see you find a lot of comfort in music which is why he is reaching out. I see you turning a lot of the pain you have been through into art. Lord Apollo wants to see you get the love you deserve for all the pain you endured. He and Ares want to work together to help you take care of yourself. There is such a tenderness and restful vibe in the energy I'm getting from the cards. They want you to know the scary parts are over and you can relax finally. Leave the scary things to them.

PILE THREE

Astrology: Cancer, Scorpio, Virgo

Cards: 10 of Cups, The Wheel of Fortune, 7 of Pentacles, Breath of the Cosmos

Song: He^rt by Starcadian

Hi pile 3! Welcome to your reading. The deity reaching out to you is attempting to be mysterious while also trying to get your attention so you might not have picked up on their signals that they sent out. I see Lady Artemis is this mysterious energy. Her symbols are deer, archery, wolves, wild plants, the moon and the stars. There are plenty more symbols of hers that I could name but I feel that she wants you to do your own research if you choose to work with her. I'm unsure what she wants to assist you with but I do know it is something that will fulfill you more than anything you have worked on before. She really desires to be there for you when you start this journey. I also see Zues wanting to help you as well. He specifically wants to assist you with something financial. I see you are working on something that you have given so much energy to. He really likes what you are making and wants to sponsor you and help you complete the task at hand. The work you are completing has something to do with speaking or maybe even writing. It looks like you could draw so much wealth from this endeavor. Use his connection to the planet Jupiter to your advantage. Jupiter is the planet of higher learning and abundance. Perhaps you are working on a thesis paper and he enjoys how you have spoken about the subject of this paper. These two don't seem to want to work together on anything. It feels more akin to them helping you in different areas of life just to give you a leg up. They welcome you with open arms.

PILE FOUR

Astrology: Aries, Sagittarius, Taurus

Cards: The Emperor, 6 of Wands, 9 of Wands, The Blue Flame

Song: Esctatic Baby by Yeasayer

Welcome pile four! I see 2 deities VERY clearly for you. They both only recently took an interest in you. Something changed very drastically in your life. This big change is what invited these two. The first is Lord Posideon. He saw the strength of your flame from the coastline. I have a feeling you are land-locked. You are as far from the sea as you possibly can be and he saw your passion from that distance. He is so intrigued by you. He wants to help kindle your flame so you don't burn out your passion too early. You felt so called to do whatever it is you are doing and you are giving it everything you have. Your whole soul is aimed at what lit this flame in you. He loves seeing how fired up you are. It's probably been a while since you felt this way. He wants to you slow your roll juuuuust a little bit. Don't burn out your fuel too quickly and cultivate your fire into victory. The other deity reaching out is Lord Dionysus. He wants to help you with the same thing Lord Posideon wants to help you with. He wants to see you bloom and grow. He wants to see your venture fruitful. He doesn't want your work to go unrewarded. I think you might smoke bud or something and he connects really well through that with you. Again the same message of "Don't over-do it" is coming through. They both love the enthusiasm you are giving but just make sure you are still caring for your body. Make sure you are setting good boundaries with yourself and your work. They can't wait to see where you go with this. Good luck, friend!

[boymanmaletheshequel]

One facet of Hellenistic and Roman, /Greco Roman paganism that I’ve always found extremely interesting to me, is how inherently human and relatable it’s gods, and their correlating counterparts are, especially when compared to deities in other ancient religions. They are divine, of course, this is made clear enough, but they all have aspects and traits to them that are inherently human. Rage, lust, joy, love, conflict. They represent, if nothing else, key elements of humanity and the human condition, which is something that no other ancient religion I’ve studied quite compares to in the same way. And not only that, but their relationship to people and humans as gods is clearly very symbiotic. They rely on their subjects for their fulfillment, interact with them directly on a regular basis, and often times even respect and revere them as not necessarily always equals, but as at the very least, creatures worthy of their consideration and respect, sometimes even falling in love with, and baring children with them. This is something that doesn’t really happen in any other ancient religion I’ve seen, sure, there are aspects of it in them, but not nearly are they portrayed as objectively or centrally as they are in Hellenism and Roman paganism. Each god represents some aspect of humanity in ways that are inherently non-Devine, Aphrodite is a lover, sometimes desperate to a vulnerable degree you wouldn’t expect a god to be. Dionysus is regularly consumed by madness as a result of his addiction and mental illness, and falls into spirals of depravity that are hauntingly ungodly. Artemis hunts even though she doesn’t need to, she respects her body as a goddess woman just as much as any human woman would, and fights back just as violently as well. Apollo finds much of his joy and happiness through the humans he falls in love with, and faces much of his suffering and sadness through them as well. Persephone fucking dies. maybe not literally in the sense of human, medical death, but absolutely metaphorically, and the grief her mother Demeter experiences is so inherently human, and so shockingly, gut wrenchingly tragic, that it is pretty obvious that this is what her story is meant to represent: a divine allegory for death and grief, an element that so many religions completely separate from their deities. Even Zeus, the primary deity, is a father figure who’s connection and relativity to fatherhood as seen in human men is almost identical. and if it weren’t for the pre-established lore and status of him as a an extremely powerful deity, there are moments in his Mythos where you might even forget that he’s a god, an all powerful, all divine, objectively non human god to begin with. I think it’s what makes Hellenism so emotional and so drawing to me, and to many other pagans, it’s a relationship that is mutual, and relatable, which is an element that is lacking in so many religions, even the major ones like Christianity and Islam. Yes, there are still elements of this in those religions, but it always feels like the stories constantly hammer in the fact that they are divine, so divine, so utterly unrelatable, so inherently disconnected from their subjects and their plights as a superior enitity, that there’s a limit to how connected one can feel to them. In hellenismos, this limit doesn’t seem to exist, and that’s something that makes it so much more personal and fascinating to me than any other religion I’ve studied. The gods are us, and we are the gods. At the end of the day, I think that’s what all religions should be about, and ultimately, are about, wether we realize it or not.

[necromancer-at-abattoir]

Oh my god, ok listen, I need to fucking vent.

I'm rereading PJO and I'm reminded of how much I hate how Rick portrayed Ares in Percy Jackson.

A BULLY? A THIEF? A CRIMINAL?

YOU KNOW WHAT RICK DOES TO ARES? HE TURNS HIM INTO THE BULLY WHO GIVES KIDS WEDGIES, WHO TEASES YOU AND STEALS YOUR LUNCH MONEY.

AND THAT'S FUCKING WRONG, BECAUSE ARES IS NONE OF THAT!

ARES IS THE GOD YOU PRAY TO TO GIVE YOU THE STRENGTH TO FIGHT AGAINST THE BLOODY FATHERFUCKERS AND DICKSUCKERS. HE'S THE GOD WHO HELPS YOU GET UP AFTER YOU BREAKDOWN FROM THEM. HE'S THE GOD WHO MOTIVATES YOU TO FIGHT AND DEFEND YOURSELF FROM THEM.

Percy hates Ares, BUT RICK IS WRITING PERCY!

So either Rick Riordan or his son HALEY RIORDAN (because Rick writes Percy mainly for Haley) hates Ares.

And you know what's so sad?

That this could've been a moment for self-growth from Percy. That he could've looked at Ares, what the god did, and think, 'Hey, I kind of hate him, but he's not all bad. He loves his kids and has done good things. Not everyone I hate is a bad person just because I hate them.'

But no. No, he has to end Ares' section in PJ'S GREEK GODS AND HEROES BY REWRITING ARES' MYTHS AND TWISTING THEM TO MAKE HIS OWN VERSION.

I'm so sick of how Dick Diordan writes Ares. I'm so sick of it. I'm so sick of how he villainizes the crap out of him, because there's no fucking reason to do so.

Same with Aphrodite. I don't know what Rick's fucking deal is. Let the gods be gods.

I know this might be weird coming from me because I'm not a Greek or Hellenistic Pagan, but it's just, I've been having a hard time lately, and going through and reading Greek mythology and even Hellenism and Hellenistic Paganism has really helped me a lot, even if I'm an atheist myself, so yeah.

And you'll say, 'Oh, just don't read PJO!'

Well, PJO's permeated Greek mythology so hard that some idiots have trouble distinguishing PJO from the REAL thing, which is way better.

All of this had motivated me to finish my huge ass rant, possibly the longest one I'll ever make. Anyway, bye for now

[elizabethemerald]

The Meeting

The Beginning of the New Pantheon: Part 3

Masterpost

“What do you mean, what?” Cassie demanded. “Do you know about Olympus and the Hellenic gods?” 

“Yes, we know about the Greek gods!” Sam snapped. “We’re not stupid you know!” 

“I’m just asking!” Cassie put her hands up in surrender. “I wasn’t certain if I had actually stumbled into an alternate dimension where instead of Olympians the domains were managed by sentient mayonnaise and the oceans were filled with shredded cheese.” 

Her statement knocked both of them onto their back foot in a way that announcing she was on a mission from Zeus didn’t. Maybe they were used to higher powers reaching out with missions? 

“Has that actually happened?” Tucker asked. 

Cassie took a moment to think about all of the weird alternate realities she and Young Justice had gone through. 

“Uh… not exactly, but pretty close sometimes.” Cassie said. She pulled out her JL comm “Anyways! I’m going to call for backup. I can explain more once they are on the way.” 

“You probably won’t get very much range on that thing.” Tucker said, looking at her comm. 

“Wha…t?” She looked down at her comm in confusion. 

The top of the line Wayne Tech communication device that Red Robin had personally modded and improved even beyond the rest of the League’s equipment was now a generic two way radio. Like something fresh from the box at Radio Shack, from back when Radio Shack still existed and was popular. Her confusion changed to mounting horror as she pulled out the palm computer that was capable of hacking into the pentagon and instead revealed a flip phone capable of playing snake (maybe). 

“Ok, while not an alternate universe full of mayonnaise, Amity Park is still apparently trapped backwards in time, and all technology is forced to match. Cool. Cool. That might make calling for help a little difficult.” 

Sam looked sympathetic as Cassie tried to contain her freak out. Tucker looked curious at the thought of whatever advanced technology that might be available outside the city. Cassie took a deep breath and steadied herself. 

“I’ll go for help personally as soon as I can, but in the meantime, I’m here now. If you two or Phantom need any help, I’ll do whatever I can.” Cassie declared, her voice once more steady and sure. 

“How do you know Phantom?” Sam demanded. 

Before Cassie could respond or explain, a wailing claxon sounded, the loudspeakers screaming a warning of some kind. Both Sam and Tucker tensed and Cassie prepared for a fight, whatever was coming, she would be here to help. 

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Donna gave a small sigh of relief as she touched down just outside Titans Tower. Nightwing was there to greet her, and it was clear that the rest of those she had asked for were already here. She led the way to the Tower’s war room. By the time she had settled at the head, the rest of the table was full. Not everyone present would be part of the New Pantheon, but she knew those who would be needed the support from the rest. 

“Thank you all for meeting me so quickly.” Donna started. “Diana, Cassie and myself have just returned after being summoned to Mount Olympus by Zeus himself.” 

Everyone in the room sat forward, laser focused on her. She had to take a steadying breath. Sure, Zeus had named her the next Queen of Olympus, and it would be her duty to guide and lead the New Pantheon, but she was not alone. She had friends here, allies, some who would share the responsibilities, some who would willingly follow her orders. They could take the domains of the gods and make something better of them, for the whole planet. 

“They gave us dire news, and a mission, a larger mission than any we have faced before.” She watched as the others tensed, ready to spring into action, so she raised her hands a little. “The Earth is not currently in any danger. The threat that they foresee will come in decades, not days.” The room relaxed, the air feeling breathable once more. “Since we have been given the time to prepare, we can prevent what they predicted from impacting the denizens of Earth.” 

“Well then, what is this threat, so that we may vanquish?” Damian demanded, his hand tightly grasping a weapon, his chest puffed out so he could make up for his short stature. Donna carefully hid, her grin, he would not appreciate being taken less seriously. 

“The Gods of Olympus are dying.” Donna said, then she continued on to explain what she, Diana and Cassie had been told. 

“I’m not certain I trust when they say that there is nothing that can be done.” Red Robin said, leaning forward while he thought. “We’ve faced impossible and improbable before and succeeded.” 

“That’s true, but in the meantime, we should consider the option that has been provided, successors to the gods chosen from among our numbers.” Donna said, she knew no matter what she said that there would be some of them who would try and find an alternative, she wasn’t certain there was one, Greeks in general and the Olympians in particular weren’t known for giving up without a fight, at least as long as they had any other option. 

“Who was chosen to be a successor?” Impulse asked, then zipped around to the other side of the table, an armful of snacks appearing in his arms. 

“I was chosen by Zeus to be his successor and the next Queen of Olympus.” Donna said. 

She had mentally braced herself for disparaging remarks or someone contesting her potential rule, instead she was surprised by the outpouring of support from her companions. Everyone seemed to feel that Zeus had chosen well and that she deserved her future role. 

“You definitely should be Queen, but I’m kind of surprised Cassie didn’t end up as Zeus’ successor considering the whole lightning lasso thing she’s got going on.” Kon said. 

“Cassie was chosen by Ares to be his successor.” 

Donna could see the other three members of Young Justice scowl at the God of War’s involvement, except Dick quickly snapped his fingers at them. 

“Hey let’s keep our diplomatic faces on for the time being. I’m sure some of us aren’t happy with some of these decisions, but the last thing we want is for this to devolve into an unnecessary conflict with the Olympians.”

She smiled at him, glad for his support. The Olympians ruled through a monarchy, and the League teams knew they needed a single leader during a crisis, but maybe this New Pantheon could rule with something more egalitarian. 

“And speaking of our Boy Wonder, Nightwing, you were chosen by Apollo to be his successor. The League’s Sunshine boy will be our God of Light.” Donna announced with a smile, but when she met Dick’s eyes she knew he could see more truth in her words. Apollo was not just a god of light, he was also a God of Truth, which made perfect sense for a detective like Dick. Plus there were few who could equal Apollo’s wrath when scorned. 

“Wait, does that mean he’s your kid?” The younger Superboy, Jon asked. 

“We are not literally becoming the gods, we are taking their place.” Donna said quickly before anyone could get any weird ideas. “So no one needs to marry their sibling, no one needs to eat their children, and I will not be leaving a bunch of demi-god bastards all over the planet.”

“If Cassie was chosen by Ares, where is she?” Impulse asked. “Did he already make her a god and we missed it?” 

“No. The Olympians agreed not to elevate anyone until all of their chosen successors were together. Cassie went to make contact with a group of heroes who were not in the League database.” Donna watched as Red Robin frowned and started to type on his wrist computer. “According to Cassie they weren’t even on the super secret Young Justice only database that the rest of us are supposed to pretend we don’t know about.” 

His frown grew more pronounced and Dick smiled and reached over and ruffled his hair. 

“So who are these heroes we’ve apparently never heard of, but have caught the attention of the Olympians?” Dick asked, half to take the attention off Tim and half out of genuine curiosity. 

“None of them have names I recognize, half of them don’t even have hero names, just regular civilian names.” Donna replied as she pulled out her copy of the list. She had less information on the new heroes as reaching out to them wasn’t her responsibility.

“Maybe it's something like Constantine?” Stephanie asked. “He’s always just known by his full name, even though his enemies call him the Hellblazer.” 

“They could also face magical threats of some kind.” Raven said, her hair floating a little and the shadow under her writhing for a moment. “Demonic incursions are usually handled without the input or knowledge of the rest of the League.”

Donna bit her lip. As a demi-god, Cassie was one of the better members of the younger heroes to face a magical threat, but it was very possible for her to get in over her head. She would trust the younger girl, but if she didn’t report back by the time the rest of Young Justice and the Teen Titans were informed and gotten over their respective fits about it, she would have to go herself to ensure that Cassie was safe. 

Though how much trouble could she really get into in the middle of the country?

[bones4thecats]

➸ Images + Storyline; RoR! Loki × S/O

Characters: Loki A/N: Basically a collage of screenshots mixed with tiny scenarios I think fit the screenshots. Also, the three children are based on these three characters; Oldest - Ibara Shiozaki (MHA), Middle - Neo Alraune (Sleep Princess), Youngest - YOUNG Killua Zoldyck (Hunter x Hunter). This took a very long time to do, but it was so worth it, I think it turned out amazing! I might end up doing more of these later. Anyways, enjoy! ➥ Summary: The story of husband and wife, God of Mischief, Loki, and Goddess of Nature, Y/N. But, not all stories end happily.

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Screenshot One »»—–► Round Two Shenanigans

🐍 Loki was sighing as the God and Human were announced by Heimdall. While it was fun to watch this tournament so far, it was sad to not have his most valuable person by his side. "Uncle Odin?" "Hm." "Do you know where exactly Y/N is?" He asked, his head slightly covered by his hands and knees, which were pulled into his chest. "She said she'd be here in a few minutes. By round three, she'll be here." 🐍 The God of Mischief let out a dramatic sigh and pulled his gaze back to Zeus and Adam's fight. This was going to be boring to watch without someone to comment with...

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Screenshot Two »»—–► A Proud Husband of a Warrior

🐍 Heimdall's voice rang out as Loki smiled, looking down at the arena. It was finally time for the fifth round of Ragnarok, specifically, it was time for the Goddess of Nature's round. 🐍 She stared blankly at the human standing across from her, annoyance obvious as he blatantly, and pridefully, stood his ground with self-praises. "If I didn't want to amuse my husband, I would've cut your head off right now." "Aw~ You do love me!" Loki called. "Be quiet!" Huginn's voice cawed, followed by Muginn's. "Is answering my dearest wife illegal now? Guess I'll be breaking the laws a lot here!" 🐍 Loki looked back down at you, who gripped a sword tightly as you readied yourself for battle. You met his gaze one more time and winked, smirking bloodthirstily before lunging at the human challenger. "Go, Y/N!"

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Screenshot Three »»—–► A Question of Humanity

🐍 Hits landed one by one, and your husband began to wonder who exactly this human was. So, as he understood this human was from the Greek-area, Loki went to two certain Greek Gods. The God of War, Ares, and his brother, the Messenger of the Gods. 🐍 Loki looked over at the muscle-jacked God and smiled, Ares' arms were crossed as he listened to Hermes speak the story of this warrior. "Dionysius I of Syracuse," Hermes began. "Known mainly for his actions leading to Syracuse becoming the most powerful Greek city just west of the mainland. Though, despite his amazing prowess in bettering the power of his city, Dionysius did have unfavorable military moves. These even resulted in the destruction of Hellenism. It's one of the main reasons Humanity hardly worships us Greek Deities anymore." 🐍 The three males looked down at you as you fought against the former tyrant. Anger was obvious on your face as he kept dodging or keeping your attacks away from him. "Come on, Y/N! Hit that fucker!" Ares yelled. "You've got this, Honey-Bun!"

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Screenshot Four »»—–► Familial Support

🐍 A light hiss came from behind Loki, but, instead of freaking out or attacking whatever was making the noise, he just smiled and patted it's head. Light then appeared as a tiny boy with your hair come out of nowhere. He smiled and hugged his father's neck as he giggled. "Well, isn't this a cute family reunion?" Zeus asked from the entrance, the other two children of you and Loki standing beside him. 🐍 The oldest looked coldly at her father and nodded in hello as his second daughter smiled like him and said her welcomes. "I'm guessing you're all here to watch your mother kick some human ass?" Loki asked. "You know us far to well, father." His flower-haired daughter said. 🐍 The eldest of the girls manipulated her hair to form a couch big enough for the small, Norse family to sit upon and watch. She looked at her brother as he smiled and crawled into her lap. "Do you think Mama will win, Papa?" He asked. "Obviously, your mother is everything but easy to take down. I would know~" 🐍 A vine smacked the back of Loki's head as the others chuckled at the family's interactions. What a sweet family you had supporting you.

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Screenshot Five »»—–► The First Deadly Hit

🐍 The family chuckled as you kicked the human away, even the three Greeks in the room did so as you whooped the behind of the mortal. You smirked and held your blade to his neck, making him slightly gasp at the pressure. "If you give up now, I will release you. If not... well... you die again." "What was you said before? Never get too cocky?" "What are you doing on about-" 🐍 The sound of slicing flesh came out as the arena went silent. Blood spurted onto the ground as you gasped and stepped back, your hand pressed against your chest as you felt something warm covering it... blood. "You-" "Bastard? Yeah. I've heard that so much, I feel nothing to it." Dionysius I smirked and launched at you again. 🐍 Meanwhile, Loki and his fellow Gods watched in shock. You had fought for nearly 20 minutes and have lasted without any attack, yet he found a weak spot and attacked without any worry. Perhaps Hermes' comment from earlier was correct... perhaps this mortal did have unfavorable military moves.

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Screenshot Six »»—–► The Beckoning of a Worried Father

🐍 Loki calmed himself outwardly and laid both of his hands on each of his daughter's shoulders. They looked at him and cocked their eyebrows curiously as he sighed and pecked his girls' and son's foreheads and called for a servant to bring them to your room in the arena. "But, Papa! I wanted to see Mama win!" His son yelled. "Do not worry, little brother. I'm sure mother's purity will overwhelm the sin-filled human down below." His eldest voiced, lightly picked up her younger brother before walking out. 🐍 His son waved at him as he raised his hand and waved it backwards and smiled, said goodbye, and looked back at the arena, a deadly aura surrounding him. "That human better watch what his next moves are. Another loss would be detrimental to us." Zeus said. "It would also be detrimental to him." Loki said lowly. 🐍 His purple eyes followed you as you fought harder than before. You better win...

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Screenshot Seven »»—–► The Death of Mother Nature

🐍 Slice after slice was swung as the battle raged on. It had been only 8 minutes since the last interruption by his children, yet he was still worried for his children if they were to witness what could happen if their mother was egged on to much. 🐍 She screamed in anger as she thoughtlessly jumped at the human, neglecting to see he lacked his weapon. But, Loki knew. "Y/N!" He yelled. 🐍 Smash. 🐍 The blade was stabbed through her chest as she screamed in pain, her once white top slowly changing to be blood-red as the blade was twisted mercilessly by the tyrannical man. 🐍 A smirk etched its way on his face as he kissed her cheek and kicked her backwards, sending her flying. She turned around and gasped as the blade dug through her entire chest. Ribs and all. 🐍 She coughed as blood came out, her eyes slowly closing as the Gods screamed for her to get up and show him who was boss. But... she was far beyond continuing. "...Y/N...?" Loki asked, his voice meek and broken-sounding. "Oh, sweet mercy." Hermes said, his mouth covered by one hand as his eyes were glued wide. "No... Y/N..." Ares said, tears popping in his eyes as you smiled at the group and closed your eyes, releasing yourself of the pain of the fight. "Y/N!" Loki screamed, making everything around his shake as his aura busted out in anger and sadness.

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Screenshot Eight »»—–► Madness of the Mischief God

🐍 The sight of your dead body shattering into small, glass-like pieces, haunted your husband. It was all he could think about. And it was driving him beyond the brink of insanity. It was as if the King of Insanity, Dionysus, was manipulating his mind himself. 🐍 The way you smiled at him as you died just made it worse in his mind. If it wasn't for that human, you'd still be here! If it weren't for that traitor... if it weren't for that damned human-turned-God, Buddha... "Where is Buddha?" Loki asked the servant. 🐍 She shivered in fear before pointing in the direction to the right. He began walking there, his hands wrapping up in his hair as he ranted to himself. "He's gonna admit to it. And he's gonna die a second time."

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Screenshot Nine »»—–► The Start of Good versus Evil

🐍 Loki put his cheery-personality back up as he walked into the gardens. His hands down by his hips as he chuckled to himself, his thought running wild as he began to speak to the man already there. "Well, hello there, Buddha! Funny seeing you here. I actually have one little question for you!" "That being?" "Well, when I witnessed my beloved get harmed by such a measly weapon, I remembered something that had long-passed my memory. There is one thing that can allow a human to harm a God, and it exists in your realm, am I correct? Volundr, I believe it was called. So, what do you think, Buddha?" "You know, that wasn't even close to one little question." 🐍 Loki stood up and bent, allowing his face to go up into Buddha's, his eye closed as he smiled creepily and asked a single-formed question; "Are you a traitor?" "And what if I am?" "I'll kill you." 🐍 Their auras clashed as they glared at one another, and before they knew it, some newcomers had arrived, prompting a whole new set of events to unfold. Thankfully, they ended as quickly as they started.

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Screenshot Ten »»—–► Revenge Will Be Mine

🐍 As the Seven Lucky Gods left, Buddha and his three human partners watched Loki begin his march away. But, there was still one thing on their minds; what did he want with Buddha and why did he push his wife into this battle? "I should warn you three." Loki said, stopping his trot. "Warn us with what?" Kojiro asked. "Seeing my wife die in front of me is something I can never forgive Humanity for. Just know, when I get on that arena's ground, I will not hold myself back from tearing your and your beloved mortal friends to shreds... the same way my wife had to be taken away from me." 🐍 Buddha narrowed his eyes as Kojiro and the other two watched with slightly fearful gazes. They knew how powerful these people were, and to hear such a threat was hardly easy to comprehend quickly. 🐍 Loki turned back and transformed into a bird, flapped his wings, and flew off in search of his three children. If anyone was going to tell them of this. It was him.

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could you please elaborate on your feelings on the gods' characterization in the wisdom saga? Not forcing you tho!

sure! keep in mind that i love EPIC and that even if i complain about things here, i totally respect the choices that Jorge makes. it’s his musical and i admire all the work put in the songs.

disclaimer : most of the time i try to dissociate EPIC from the Odyssey in my mind, because thinking of EPIC as an adaptation tends to make me upset due to how different it is. but it’s also amazing on its own! there are creative liberties that i deeply love (like having Odysseus know about Scylla but not telling anyone, and changing the context of the mutiny), others that i don’t like that much but that i can get behind, and others that i really dislike. i understand why everything is done the way it’s done, but i still have opinions.

before talking about the Wisdom Saga i’d like to explain how i felt about the gods in the other sagas. as a classics student and a hellenic polytheist i tend to dislike most modern portrayals of the gods, mostly because they’re usually flat and lack nuance. up until this saga, i had never been disappointed by any choice done regarding the gods in EPIC. they were all so interesting.

i loved Zeus in Thunder Bringer. it’s one of my favorite songs, and i found that Zeus was beautifully portrayed. he’s the villain, sure, he offers an awful choice (for the second time), but the situation was created by Odysseus and his men. i loved the lyrics and their double meaning.

this all fell apart in God Games, for me. it just didn’t feel like the same Zeus anymore. and as much as i try to dissociate EPIC from Homer’s epics, i love the Iliad and the Odyssey too much not to point out that Zeus would never be like that. in the Odyssey, Zeus immediately agrees with Athena on the fact that Odysseus must be freed from Calypso’s island. Poseidon is the only god who really wants to stop Odysseus, Zeus doesn’t exactly care about him. he knows Odysseus’ fate and he won’t go against it. besides, Athena is Zeus’ favorite daughter in Homer’s works. he loves her. he doesn’t like it when she defies her, that’s very clear in the Iliad, he even threatens her when she does that, but he loves her dearly and he gives her nearly everything she asks for. he would simply not strike her down like that. and Zeus has no reason to go against his own word. if he sets a challenge, he respects the terms. he’s a fair god, he’s a ruler, he’s all about divine justice. i don’t mind changes, but i dislike these ones.

and Athena… Athena was always the deity i felt the less sure about in EPIC. don’t get me wrong, i love her in the previous songs. but i never knew where exactly her character arc would bring her and i felt uneasy. now i know i was right to feel this way.

there had to be an explanation to the fact that Athena hadn’t helped Odysseus during the years he was imprisoned by Calypso. i understand why in EPIC, this explanation is that Odysseus and Athena fought and fell apart. in fact, i love My Goodbye. i think the way Odysseus is portrayed in the Cyclops Saga makes him way more of an asshole than he is in the Odyssey (and that’s alright by me!), because he’s stupid and hubristic and he refuses to listen to Athena. in the Odyssey, Athena never abandons Odysseus, she helps him during his entire journey. but if he had talked to her like he does in EPIC, she probably would have left him! i find their fight interesting, how cold Athena can be, how betrayed they both feel.

but! here comes the Wisdom Saga. and i love Athena in Little Wolf. i like her in God Games too. maybe even in Love in Paradise. but i can’t get over We’ll Be Fine, it just doesn’t sound right to me. i like Telemachus. but i hate that this is how Athena suddenly decides to go back to Odysseus. "i could sleep at night", really? why would she feel guilty about leaving a hero who refused to listen to her? i enjoyed how cold she was in My Goodbye, it was an interesting choice, and i would have liked for her to remain this way. or to change more slowly. the loneliness aspect could have been great if it had been explored more in depth (which i know wouldn’t have been possible since she doesn’t have enough songs to allow for slow character development). this just felt rushed and strange.

i would have liked for Athena not to reach out until Odysseus does. the moment where he cries out her name at the end of Love in Paradise is heart-wrenching, i love it. that’s when i would have loved for her to suddenly hear him and go back to him, instead of already being there. that would have been a moment where she could have decided to help him despite what he said and did, because she still cares about him and she sees him being so desperate. that could have been a moment where she feels guilty or lonely.

i know it’s done that way so that Telemachus saves Odysseus’ life by giving advice to Athena. it’s fine, it’s a nice idea. i understand why people like it, and i’m glad they do. it just feels off to me.

regarding the other gods: firstly, Calypso is great and i love her! now, on the other ones: i think instead of all this weird Zeus portrayal in God Games, it would have been nice to mention Poseidon. if there had to be a reason for Zeus not to want to release Odysseus, it could have been something to do with his brother. Apollo’s appearance felt unnecessary, his argument was weak, i’m still glad he was there but i didn’t love his portrayal. my opinion for Hephaestus is similar (though i liked his portrayal better, he just felt unnecessary), with another thought: i’m already starting to see more art of him and i really wish people would depict him as disabled, because not everybody does. i liked Aphrodite’s and Ares’ part, and Hera’s was fun. i don’t necessarily like the overall vibes of God Games but that’s just a matter of my music tastes, there are multiple songs in EPIC that i don’t really listen to because of that while still enjoying their role in the storyline.

obviously most people disagree with me, and i’m glad everyone seems to love that saga. some parts were just really not for me, namely, We’ll Be Fine, the beginning of Love in Paradise, and the end of God Games.

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"They're Hellenists now?!"

I love the title here, and how this r/systemscringe member is freaked out that systems do, in fact, exist in all religions!

That's right! Nowhere is safe from us!

Yes dear, people do tend to talk differently in spaces where they can be anonymous and not have their lives and reputations be ruined due to rampant ableism. The fact that many systems would be afraid to say this aloud because of social consequences, including losing support from friends, family, and possibly even their employment is really not the slam dunk you think it is.

I don't know why I keep reading takes from these subreddits when they all make me lose braincells every time.

First, seeing yourselves as separate people is fine. Healthy multiplicity is a valid goal.

But even if it wasn't and you take the outdated view that you need to see yourselves as one person in order to heal, people do counterproductive things all the time.

"Real people wouldn't do this because it's counterproductive" is the biggest indicator that you have somehow managed to go through your whole life without ever interacting with even one single real person. Because if you ever had, you would know better!

I know it's hard for you people, but please at least try to use your brains for once!

It's only one alter who wants to practice, so it would feel dishonest to claim they themselves, as the alter writing that post, was a follower of Artemis. It's likely they have a different religion.

Again though, this is an anonymous account.

And more importantly, people with DID... and I know this is a shock to r/systemscringe... ARE HUMAN BEINGS!!!

They are not a monolith, and even if some are reluctant to come out as having DID in public, it's pretty absurd to think they all will.

And it being a covert disorder doesn't mean that nobody with the disorder will ever talk about it. It means that it can be hard to detect given that amnesia can make switching hard to remember, and a lot of the experiences in it are internal. If someone with DID doesn't tell you, there's a good chance you wouldn't know. From the outside, they might just seem forgetful, and to change moods a lot.

The disorder being covert doesn't give you an excuse to fakeclaim anyone who talks about having it!

It's infuriating that r/systemscringe's standards for fakeclaiming is literally just... saying that you have a disorder...

And one final point is that for the people who are ashamed and won't talk about it, the reason for this is because of people like those on r/systemscringe who will treat them like they're either lying, crazy, OR BOTH! And the way to fight shame and normalize talking about DID and OSDD is to be brave, take risks, and talk about having them in places that aren't just about those disorders.

So congrats to that one user who went and spoke about their alters in the Hellenism subreddit. It's only a small step forward, but progress will be made by a million small steps like this one.