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I'm always entertained by people doing those "canon VS fanon" memes where both are misunderstanding characters to such a violent degree 'cause like
#sp-rambles#“Canon is when they do not cry nor have emotions whatsoever and fanon is when they sob 24/7”#Like idk buddy I think it Depends#Edit: Since this is getting moderately popular#Yes this was made about Sans but also for TF2#You don't know the hell that is the TF2 fandom and how they treat these characters lol#Because how the hell do you misinterpret such simplistic characters who have like 2 or 3 personality traits each
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Hot take and not to be a killjoy or the shipping police but people treating Viktor or Jinx's aroace headcanons as if they were canon is not the revolutionary take people think it is.
Headcanons are always all right but we have to acknowledge that they are somehow damaging when they apply to stereotypes. It might not be the case for everyone but most of the time people unconsciously assume that disability/mental illness=asexuality. These headcanons erase the freedom of attraction from people who are already seen as unable to have sexual/romantic experiences/desires, when it's completely untrue and harmful.
You can headcanon Viktor and Jinx as aroace, but I have seen people changing their minds once Viktor is no longer disabled (s2 with all of his other forms) and Jinx is no longer as mentally ill (alternate universe Powder). And it speaks wonders of how people see these characters.
"I never thought about Jinx being able to feel romantic/sexual attraction until s2!" To believe she's actually only capable of that when she's not "damaged" is incredibly disturbing. Especially since Jinx has always had a bit of a flirty personality too.
"I've always seen Viktor as asexual, I don't know why!" That's fine. You can headcanon him as ace. But I believe there is a reason behind it, most of the time, if for some inexplicable reason the "vibes" of the disabled character are making you think he's ace.
I say all of this being aroaspec myself, by the way. Headcanon all you want but going to people's posts commenting how "it's weird for you that they have romantic/sexual plots when they're clearly aroace" is not a win at all. It's a headcanon, after all, and it should be treated as such, and that's fine. But it also is damaging to spread stereotypes like these.
Of course the disabled character is asexual. Of course the mentally ill character is aromantic. It's not as revolutionary as you might think, tbh.
Fandom is not activism and it's all right to have any headcanons you want BUT some of them are filled with damaging stuff and perhaps we should look into ourselves more before treating these assumptions as something canon.
#i hope i didn't sound rude btw i am saying this respectfully and this is directed to the ones who push these hcs as canon#if you have your own theories and know abt aroace stereotypes but are respectful abt it this is not for you keep scrolling#i actually think showing jinx (who has been dehumanized by the fandom A LOT) in a romantic relationship is good for her character#and viktor letting himself be free and loving what he considered imperfections thanks to jayce at the end c'monnn they need to make love#tired of disabled characters being treated as babies and always hc them as aroace let them fuck#this being said i am aware there are more terms inside aroace etc etc etc and there are more ways of considering them aroace etc etc etc#this is NOT about that it's about being aware of how 'mmm it's the vibes!' argument does NOT work when it's stereotypes#it's like saying 'wow this robotic character is giving me autistic vibes idk why' LIKE CMON NOW WEFNEWLFNL YOU KNOW WHY#please don't cancel me i am giving my humble opinion as someone aroaspec#at the end of the day you can do whatever the fuck you want tbh#i'm not the shipping police here#arcane#viktor arcane#jinx arcane#jayvik#timebomb
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Guess me and Eddie Munson have another thing in common
#does it count if it’s a headcanon#fandom treats it like it’s canon#leo.txt#leo talks to the void#Leo is fucking going through it#Leo just finished crying again#Leo is going to cry some more#cw vent#kinda#kinda vent#i feel so empty#i feel ill#I feel unreal#tw#no fandom tags even tho it’s a random post#I might have to write heart breaking angst to cope#I’ve already written three pieces of poetry about it#she’ll never change#she’ll never teach me how to drive#I just can���t believe she’s gone man
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I really wish Gaara's arc had been a little more involved because I truly don't think the sheer horror of it all is delved into enough. In the end it's sort of like he just. Snaps out of it. But then you start thinking about it and you're like. Oh. This kid literally could not sleep for years. Oh this kid was being tormented by Ichibi 24/7. Oh this kid had everyone trying to assassinate him when he was tiny. Oh this kid trusted one single person and they tried to kill him too and then died in front of him. Oh this kid was told everyone including his family hated him and that he was a monster and should die. Oh ok. Like sure murder was not the answer but also considering the circumstances he should've been even more out of it than he was
#all the way back in 2017 when i read it the first time i was like. you're telling me this kid literally could not sleep.#i feel like even ignoring EVERYTHING ELSE. that is insane#and then you add like 5 more layers of torture#but honestly i feel like because of the way it's treated by canon. as with anything else. the reality is not addressed#when like. holy shit#type: meta#sorta#fandom: naruto#naruto#naruto shippuden#naruto shippuuden#naruto series#naruto manga#sabaku no gaara#gaara#gaara of the desert#gaara of the sand#gaara naruto#rasa naruto
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actually i think it's interesting that practically everyone's interpretation of valentino is that he has severe substance abuse issues & is high 50% of the time, when in the show he's shown disparagingly talking about addicts in a way that implies he doesn't see himself as one. and i'm not using "interesting" as a substitute for "oh boy do i fucking hate this" i just genuinely think it's fascinating. the juxtaposition of him looking down on addicts while refusing to acknowledge his own substance abuse problems is direly under explored and it's like, Right There. it's prime character study material
#at the bare minimum he has a nicotine addiction but i (like seemingly everyone else) walked away thinking#that he does a lot of drugs in general#valentino#though it is interesting so much of the audience read him that way despite#not canonically doing any drugs#unless i'm misremembering#or there is some offhand Q&A remark made two hours into a livestream once that is now treated like fandom gospel#but i disregard like all of that stuff loool#anyway i think this tracks bc i feel like he's the sort of person who does NOT think he's at the behest#of his impulses. he indulges in them but he sees himself as fully in control#and this doesn't just encompass drugs but things like anger issues#ofc the alternative is that he's just a chain smoker#which isn't my read but (chin propped on folded hands) i'd hear it out#i have more thoughts but i have to drive somewhere now rip
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Absolutely in love with the fact that the "Stiles Stilinski is Part of the Pack" tag automatically redirects to the "Stiles Stilinski is Part of Derek Hale's Pack" tag.
Because. That's not what that tag, with that phrasing, HAS to mean. The Pack could refer to... ya know... the canon pack he's a part of, in that "reassurance of sticking to canon" way that isn't even rare on AO3.
But no. Nope. AO3 knows what pack we're talking about. And it delights me.
#Teen Wolf#Hale Pack#Sterek#Stiles Stilinski#I opened both tags to check if I needed to do#two separate fic searches bc they were treated as different tags#and then kinda cackled when I realized they're the same#because. Again. They don't necessarily HAVE to mean the ssme thing#Like. This fandom has so many canon reassurance tags#(i.e. “Gerard is Evil” like lol yeah what else. Or assuring ur using canon first names#I understand the “Sheriff's name is John” tag bc fanon#but the “Sheriff's name is Noah” tag is funny to me. Are you warning us#about using canon instead of beloved fanon? xD#so. Ya know. The more general tag COULD have been canon reassurance)
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I've come to the conclusion that being assigned the fandom-mandated "sunshine character" is the worst possible fate a character could face
#maybe I'm just biased because the characters that this happens to tend to be some of my favorites but I think I'm onto something#these characters aren't allowed depth of emotion or complex inner worlds. once a character is fanonized as the 'ray of sunsine'#or the 'cinnamon roll' they cease to occupy any space outside of that role in fanon content. they're happy & silly & not much else#no matter how much depth they may actually have in canon.#popular fanon has a tendency to treat happiness & goodness like states without any emotional complexity.#emotional complexity is reserved for the anti-heroes & jerks-with-a-heart-of-gold you see.#atp 'X is a ray of sunshine' has begone to feel like code for 'I don't actually care about this character very much nor do I understand#their canon narrative so I'm just gonna ignore them 98% of the time. but hey they're really nice! that's something! anyways—'#this is about many characters but I particularly want to call out aang & nightcrawler / kurt wagner as two who get this the worst.#because christ the mischaracterization they get from people who never think about them outside of the 'uwu small bean' box is infuriating#also steven universe & miles morales. although it's not so bad for steven after suf#fandom bs#please pretend I typed 'begun' a few tags back
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it's so funny to me that caleb and veth really did just trade off the job of intensely pining for the other at like the halfway point of the campaign. like, imo, nott in the early days did not behave in any real romantic or even romance-adjacent ways toward him--I imagine it would be very hard to even think in that way when you hate what you look like so much, have such low self-esteem, and are actively lying about your entire past, including a secret husband. caleb, on the other hand, is kind of diving directly back into the sort of relationship he had with astrid and eadwulf. very close, very intimate, we-huddled-for-warmth-together-and-oops-it-led-to-something-else sort of thing. he is the one who expresses that he's fine with it if people think he and nott are romantically together when they're talking to keg. nott is the one who pushes back on that. he calls her his life partner. unknowingly, he compares his feelings for nott to nott's feelings for yeza. his behavior only really starts to change after he finds out about veth's husband because suddenly all of that other stuff is rendered inappropriate in retrospect. but even then he compliments her to yeza over dinner in the most awkward of ways, he admits to being jealous, he calls yeza "a lucky man" to have her, he stares at veth and yeza closed bedroom door for far too long, he creates an entire arcane tower with room for her family just so she'll stay with him. in general, his behavior is not, um, totally and completely platonic about it, you know?
like, veth's feelings for caleb are canonical and therefore indisputable in their existence, but caleb in the early days was not that dissimilar to how veth was acting near the end of the campaign. it really paints a picture of "right person, wrong time" in the way things just didn't line up for them. or, as veth would say: "in another world, maybe"
#i am actually thinking about this because my widobrave 2 poll had so many moments on it that caleb initiated#and i often see it remarked that people think widobrave is entirely one-sided and caleb only treats her as platonic or familial#which. my real answer is that it's just complicated and i don't think he'd ever admit to any romantic feelings being there#but i also. uh. i wouldn't call it platonic or familial. there is some holy fourth dimension that this relationship exists in istg#impossible to explain but it is NOT entirely platonic nor all that familial imo as it stands in canon#this is like. ONE piece of the meta I was trying to figure out how to phrase earlier today. bottom line of it was:#I don't think the caleb/veth romance is entirely one-sided but also it is so so complicated#their relationship changes SO many times. SO much. that's why it's so frustrating that fandom is stuck in episode 13 re: their dynamic#SO MUCH ABOUT THE DYNAMIC CHANGES AFTER EPISODE 13#even sam reigel himself on talks said there was no reason their relationship wouldn't change/evolve after that#and it did change! it really really did!#widobrave#the mighty nein#caleb widogast#veth brenatto#critical role#inaugurating the new url with a widobrave post. as it should be
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i wish folks could better appreciate that fic, headcanons, etc don’t necessarily have to come from a place of “this thing i am saying about this character is Factual and all of fandom should accept it as The Truth” and can instead be from a place of “this is the way i choose to interpret this character/media because that is how i personally best enjoy them”
#this is not directed at anything specific and is mostly residue left over from my negative experiences in larger fandom#but whenever i talk meta and headcanons i get this anxious drive to add 500 disclaimers#bc there ARE corners of every fandom who will treat fanon like it needs to be accepted by the fandom or the canon at large to be 'valid'#like everything has to be rooted in arbitrary 'universal' truths about the character/media#it doesn't!!!#we're all just here having fun#play with your dollies in peace#i have headcanons and fic that contradict each other!#sometimes i bend my own stricter view of canon to have fun with a concept#it's just messy sandbox play
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"It's funny. Laugh."
#daycare attendant#daycare attendant fnaf#daycare attendant Sun#DCA fandom#oc x canon#Sun x reader#Sun Fnaf#Sun x oc#Sun x y/n#Sundrop x oc#Sundrop x y/n#Sundrop x reader#my art#masc y/n#rhys#me. me willingly making this. me willingly writing that dialog- whOOga needs THERAPY HUH??? Get the bots some therapy!!!#walks so close to the mic my lips are touching it.#hye y.... it's a fun little allegory for being aromantic kinda#just a little bit as a treat <3. can be viewed as Not that way#just feels like you're not worth more than the sum of your parts being aro sometimes. asjfafjaj.#+ also my wife writing this dialog: “Hey I wrote some lore into this. Just let me know if you don't like it!!” Me: AAFSDGSDG??/ JSFS??????#doombop!
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Thinking of Cass and Damian got me thinking of the New 52 and how the dynamic between Batgirl and Robin there is even more proof of the travesty that was Babsgirl. She's been the longest running Batgirl to Damian's Robin, has witnessed most of the events of his life as Robin and yet their dynamic is just... A nothing burger. She's there in batfamily group reactions in the New 52 as the most heinous use of the Smurfette Principle I've seen in a long while. Tim isn't Tim, Dick isn't fully treated as Bruce's son, Jason exists mostly to say funny one liners, and yet despite the shallow characterisation there are still moments and events you can point to and say look. This happened. They interacted with Damian and it meant something. With Babsgirl? Nothing. How can there be anything when they're shoving a grown woman into a role she's outgrown for years now and forcing her to be the Batgirl of a preteen Robin? Her original Robin gets his own mantle, gets to be an adult with a legacy. She's shoved back into this role she doesn't fit in and because they know damn well she doesn't fit in it and they're just doing it for misogyny, they don't even try to make Batgirl and Robin a thing. Any interaction they had during the new 52 was so unremarkable and flavourless, devoid of character and heart, that I've never seen a single panel of the two of them in my 16 years as a DC fan.
Steph had a 24 issue batgirl run where she interacted with Damian a few times. Cass got even less than that with a six issue miniseries to bond with him. And yet the characterisation, writing and dynamic created in those stories was interesting, entertaining and impactful enough to last in the fandom for YEARS when Cass and Steph got erased. When you think of Damian's big sister you think of Steph, Cass, Maya etc long before you think of Babsgirl.
It's just infuriating to me. All those years of potential Batgirl and Robin stories wasted on a duo with as much cultural impact on the Batgirl and Robin team up as the James Cameron Avatar movies had on the word Avatar. All so they could erase the women of the batfam and reduce the sole one remaining down to The Girl Bat. Yeah whatever she was there in Damian's life when Steph and Cass weren't why am I supposed to care when her standing there gave me nothing to work with emotionally compared to a single conversation Steph or Cass had with Damian back in 2011. Compared with them or even Oracle Babs, I care about Babsgirl and Damian's dynamic and bond as much as DC and it's writers do. Which is to say, not at all.
#dc#batfam#Sorry for the rant sometimes think about the new 52 and how it treated female characters and I get furious#Babs will always be Dick and Jason's Batgirl. Steph will always be Damians.#If you want to argue its Babs give me panels of them talking as compelling as Steph and Dami from batgirl 2009#Hell give me one as compelling as Oracle Babs and Batman Dick mentoring the new batgirl and robin#Anti Babsgirl#Dc rambles#Genuinely if someone ever said Babsgirl mattered more as Damains batgirl than Steph I wouldn't know how to take that other than Steph hate#And refusal to acknowledge that batgirl 2009 was good and impactful enough to remain a part of how fandom saw these characters#For years. Something the new 52 failed to achieve with Babsgirl and Damian. She had no development during his four years of growth#He barely even acknowledges her she's just a random family friend who's always there. And you're telling me that she's his batgirl not Step#Yeah OK sure. If you like the worst most boring and poorly written parts of canon and ignore the actual good stuff#I guess that can be true
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Sherlock and House: Oddest shows of affection.
Sherlock: I’ve programmed an algorithm that can diagnose medical conditions within 0.05% accuracy. Much better than your pathetic clinic work. I think John will appreciate it.
House: Cute. I just pretended to go into cardiac arrest so Wilson would rush in and declare me his one true love. Try faking death next time, it’s a real conversation starter.
Sherlock: How is that even remotely intellectual? John prefers logic, not melodrama.
House: Wilson likes grand gestures. I know my audience.
John (to Wilson): Are they seriously doing this again?
Wilson: I’m pretty sure I’m dating an emotionally stunted teenager. What’s your excuse?
#house x wilson#house md#greg house#james wilson#house is why wilson cant have nice things#canon hilson#domestic hilson#hilson au#AU#alternate universe#bbc sherlock#sherlock fandom#sherlock holmes#johnlock#sherlock x john#john and wilson are tired#john watson#dr john watson#love language or just insanity??#house and his grand gestures#sherlock and house treating affection like its a competitve sport#james and wilson are just existing#destined to bicker#they love eachother#toxic relationship kings#how are these two geniuses?#this is how they say i love you ig#house: what if i just pretend to die?#house knows his audience (literally just one person)
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Ace community can we please for the love of god stop calling sex-favorable or sex-neutral aces “exceptions.”
I’ve seen one too many angry shipping discourse posts where yall are complaining about your ace blorbo being headcanoned to have sex by some people because of “exceptions.”
We are not exceptions. We are just as much a part of the ace community as you are. We are allowed to talk about our experiences and we are allowed to also project our experiences onto fictional characters as much as you are, and the fact you assume it’s just allo people talking about these “exceptions” is a part of the problem.
#aspec#asexual#sex favorable asexual#sex neutral asexual#this isn’t really just about fandom bullshit. some of you treat us like this outside of those spaces too#‘allos erase a canonically aspec character’s sexuality’#and ‘the ace community is often really unfriendly towards those of us who don’t despise sex’#are two statements that can and should coexist#and it’s not that I want everything to be about me. or that your experience isn’t valid#but I would like not to see hostility towards those who are sex-favorable
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Something I do think is kinda worse (but definitely less prevalent) than “fandom religiously treating fanon as canon” is when someone convinces themselves that something that is canon actually isn’t, and that everyone else is stupid when in actuality most people are just like… picking up on the very obvious and purposeful implications presented in the story that you have just refused to accept mean anything if it isn’t literally spelled out for you.
#fandom#this can apply to other instances in other fandoms but#specifically im thinking about people who have convinced themselves they are big brained for thinking ‘von k*rma’ wasn’t abusive’ like…#come ooonn#like yes the details of his abuse are left up to interpretation#he was not canonically physically abusive with Franziska or Miles#(though it’s not outside the realm of possibility)#but the pressure to be perfect prosecutors#the way failure caused Miles & Franziska to spiral SO MUCH#the way he treated Miles in investigations#the fact that Miles wasn’t suprised at all that his adopted father and mentor decided to prosecute him#the fact that Frazisksa was even allowed to basically put people to death at the age of thirteen#all of these are very canon in-your-face ways of showing what it was like to be raised by Manfred and none of it is good#like sure there are sometimes fandom interpretations on this that are probably worse than what canon is implying#and I don’t care if people like enjoy Manfred in whatever capacity#but someone doesn’t have to hit someone on camera for implications of abuse to be obvious#especially when not all abuse is physical anyways!!#I just hate the like… pretending the blatant ignoring of canon is somehow a dunk on fanon lol
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you know what. i say that all chucker is actually chuckboose in disguise but you know what the same is true for tuckington. caboose is there. he needs to be there. why are you writing tucker and wash together without their third. where is he.
#there’s something about the way fandom treats ships as if they’re just ‘ships’ and not ‘two characters in a relationship’ that like.#you see it most prominently in the misogynistic degradation of the female character getting in the way of an m/m ship but#even in contexts outside of that. they just ignore the lives of the characters that aren’t related to the relationship#friendships? don’t matter. past relationships? don’t matter. it’s just about the yaoi.#if you want to write tuckington but don’t like chucker then you. don’t like tuckington i’m sorry.#you like wash/an oc#and i don’t mean that you need to ‘ship’ chucker i mean#church was an incredibly important person in tuckers life whether romantically or platonically#and tuckers feelings about church were an incredibly important element of wash and tuckers relationship#so much tuckington just ignores church and caboose as if they’re both not unbelievably important parts of both tucker and wash’s lives#it ignores wash’s relationship with carolina too but i care less about wash so i have less feelings about the way his character is treated l#junior either gets ignored or used as a prop for fluffy moments#soooo rarely is junior an actual character. he’s just something for tucker to make heart eyes at wash about for being good with him#i don’t know i’ve been enjoying tuckington a lot more lately and i’m figuring out why i was so turned off of it for so long#i feel so bad for people who are huge fans of grif and simmons and their canon relationship#i don’t think i could survive all the fanon grimmons stuff. braver than any unsc marine for real
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idk why it's taken me this long to think about it like this but the real reason i don't like 70s/80s era DM in the show timeline is because it's cheating. and i don't mean infidelity, i mean it's a cheap way to cut around all the issues armand and daniel have with each other in the modern day. like it's a massively difficult thing to write these characters getting from point A (armand's life being ruined by daniel and daniel hating armand/being highly distrustful of him) to point B (a sincere romantic relationship) but if you invent a Secret Romantic History That Daniel Forgot But Will Remember then it's a piece of cake for them to forgive each other. but no! i say no! i want the writers to put the work in!!!!
#armandiel#armand iwtv#daniel molloy#armand#the vampire armand#iwtv#interview with the vampire#for the record. i have now written four whole fics that are just sitting in my drafts#of 70s/80s era DM. like i Get It. i Get the appeal. im not trying to ruin anyones fun#but its one thing to explore it in fanworks and its another thing to treat it as canon#which does??? seem to be the pretty standard way of thinking in this fandom?????#except my beloved mutuals. i see u#thunder rambles#edit: HELP i know ive made this point 70 million times before. for some reason it just didnt click that#'a second amnesia plotline would be bad' -> 'because it's cheap writing'. let me live
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