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I'm always entertained by people doing those "canon VS fanon" memes where both are misunderstanding characters to such a violent degree 'cause like
#sp-rambles#“Canon is when they do not cry nor have emotions whatsoever and fanon is when they sob 24/7”#Like idk buddy I think it Depends#Edit: Since this is getting moderately popular#Yes this was made about Sans but also for TF2#You don't know the hell that is the TF2 fandom and how they treat these characters lol#Because how the hell do you misinterpret such simplistic characters who have like 2 or 3 personality traits each
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Guess me and Eddie Munson have another thing in common
#does it count if it’s a headcanon#fandom treats it like it’s canon#leo.txt#leo talks to the void#Leo is fucking going through it#Leo just finished crying again#Leo is going to cry some more#cw vent#kinda#kinda vent#i feel so empty#i feel ill#I feel unreal#tw#no fandom tags even tho it’s a random post#I might have to write heart breaking angst to cope#I’ve already written three pieces of poetry about it#she’ll never change#she’ll never teach me how to drive#I just can’t believe she’s gone man
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I really wish Gaara's arc had been a little more involved because I truly don't think the sheer horror of it all is delved into enough. In the end it's sort of like he just. Snaps out of it. But then you start thinking about it and you're like. Oh. This kid literally could not sleep for years. Oh this kid was being tormented by Ichibi 24/7. Oh this kid had everyone trying to assassinate him when he was tiny. Oh this kid trusted one single person and they tried to kill him too and then died in front of him. Oh this kid was told everyone including his family hated him and that he was a monster and should die. Oh ok. Like sure murder was not the answer but also considering the circumstances he should've been even more out of it than he was
#all the way back in 2017 when i read it the first time i was like. you're telling me this kid literally could not sleep.#i feel like even ignoring EVERYTHING ELSE. that is insane#and then you add like 5 more layers of torture#but honestly i feel like because of the way it's treated by canon. as with anything else. the reality is not addressed#when like. holy shit#type: meta#sorta#fandom: naruto#naruto#naruto shippuden#naruto shippuuden#naruto series#naruto manga#sabaku no gaara#gaara#gaara of the desert#gaara of the sand#gaara naruto#rasa naruto
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actually i think it's interesting that practically everyone's interpretation of valentino is that he has severe substance abuse issues & is high 50% of the time, when in the show he's shown disparagingly talking about addicts in a way that implies he doesn't see himself as one. and i'm not using "interesting" as a substitute for "oh boy do i fucking hate this" i just genuinely think it's fascinating. the juxtaposition of him looking down on addicts while refusing to acknowledge his own substance abuse problems is direly under explored and it's like, Right There. it's prime character study material
#at the bare minimum he has a nicotine addiction but i (like seemingly everyone else) walked away thinking#that he does a lot of drugs in general#valentino#though it is interesting so much of the audience read him that way despite#not canonically doing any drugs#unless i'm misremembering#or there is some offhand Q&A remark made two hours into a livestream once that is now treated like fandom gospel#but i disregard like all of that stuff loool#anyway i think this tracks bc i feel like he's the sort of person who does NOT think he's at the behest#of his impulses. he indulges in them but he sees himself as fully in control#and this doesn't just encompass drugs but things like anger issues#ofc the alternative is that he's just a chain smoker#which isn't my read but (chin propped on folded hands) i'd hear it out#i have more thoughts but i have to drive somewhere now rip
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Absolutely in love with the fact that the "Stiles Stilinski is Part of the Pack" tag automatically redirects to the "Stiles Stilinski is Part of Derek Hale's Pack" tag.
Because. That's not what that tag, with that phrasing, HAS to mean. The Pack could refer to... ya know... the canon pack he's a part of, in that "reassurance of sticking to canon" way that isn't even rare on AO3.
But no. Nope. AO3 knows what pack we're talking about. And it delights me.
#Teen Wolf#Hale Pack#Sterek#Stiles Stilinski#I opened both tags to check if I needed to do#two separate fic searches bc they were treated as different tags#and then kinda cackled when I realized they're the same#because. Again. They don't necessarily HAVE to mean the ssme thing#Like. This fandom has so many canon reassurance tags#(i.e. “Gerard is Evil” like lol yeah what else. Or assuring ur using canon first names#I understand the “Sheriff's name is John” tag bc fanon#but the “Sheriff's name is Noah” tag is funny to me. Are you warning us#about using canon instead of beloved fanon? xD#so. Ya know. The more general tag COULD have been canon reassurance)
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I've come to the conclusion that being assigned the fandom-mandated "sunshine character" is the worst possible fate a character could face
#maybe I'm just biased because the characters that this happens to tend to be some of my favorites but I think I'm onto something#these characters aren't allowed depth of emotion or complex inner worlds. once a character is fanonized as the 'ray of sunsine'#or the 'cinnamon roll' they cease to occupy any space outside of that role in fanon content. they're happy & silly & not much else#no matter how much depth they may actually have in canon.#popular fanon has a tendency to treat happiness & goodness like states without any emotional complexity.#emotional complexity is reserved for the anti-heroes & jerks-with-a-heart-of-gold you see.#atp 'X is a ray of sunshine' has begone to feel like code for 'I don't actually care about this character very much nor do I understand#their canon narrative so I'm just gonna ignore them 98% of the time. but hey they're really nice! that's something! anyways—'#this is about many characters but I particularly want to call out aang & nightcrawler / kurt wagner as two who get this the worst.#because christ the mischaracterization they get from people who never think about them outside of the 'uwu small bean' box is infuriating#also steven universe & miles morales. although it's not so bad for steven after suf#fandom bs#please pretend I typed 'begun' a few tags back
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it's so funny to me that caleb and veth really did just trade off the job of intensely pining for the other at like the halfway point of the campaign. like, imo, nott in the early days did not behave in any real romantic or even romance-adjacent ways toward him--I imagine it would be very hard to even think in that way when you hate what you look like so much, have such low self-esteem, and are actively lying about your entire past, including a secret husband. caleb, on the other hand, is kind of diving directly back into the sort of relationship he had with astrid and eadwulf. very close, very intimate, we-huddled-for-warmth-together-and-oops-it-led-to-something-else sort of thing. he is the one who expresses that he's fine with it if people think he and nott are romantically together when they're talking to keg. nott is the one who pushes back on that. he calls her his life partner. unknowingly, he compares his feelings for nott to nott's feelings for yeza. his behavior only really starts to change after he finds out about veth's husband because suddenly all of that other stuff is rendered inappropriate in retrospect. but even then he compliments her to yeza over dinner in the most awkward of ways, he admits to being jealous, he calls yeza "a lucky man" to have her, he stares at veth and yeza closed bedroom door for far too long, he creates an entire arcane tower with room for her family just so she'll stay with him. in general, his behavior is not, um, totally and completely platonic about it, you know?
like, veth's feelings for caleb are canonical and therefore indisputable in their existence, but caleb in the early days was not that dissimilar to how veth was acting near the end of the campaign. it really paints a picture of "right person, wrong time" in the way things just didn't line up for them. or, as veth would say: "in another world, maybe"
#i am actually thinking about this because my widobrave 2 poll had so many moments on it that caleb initiated#and i often see it remarked that people think widobrave is entirely one-sided and caleb only treats her as platonic or familial#which. my real answer is that it's just complicated and i don't think he'd ever admit to any romantic feelings being there#but i also. uh. i wouldn't call it platonic or familial. there is some holy fourth dimension that this relationship exists in istg#impossible to explain but it is NOT entirely platonic nor all that familial imo as it stands in canon#this is like. ONE piece of the meta I was trying to figure out how to phrase earlier today. bottom line of it was:#I don't think the caleb/veth romance is entirely one-sided but also it is so so complicated#their relationship changes SO many times. SO much. that's why it's so frustrating that fandom is stuck in episode 13 re: their dynamic#SO MUCH ABOUT THE DYNAMIC CHANGES AFTER EPISODE 13#even sam reigel himself on talks said there was no reason their relationship wouldn't change/evolve after that#and it did change! it really really did!#widobrave#the mighty nein#caleb widogast#veth brenatto#critical role#inaugurating the new url with a widobrave post. as it should be
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"It's funny. Laugh."
#daycare attendant#daycare attendant fnaf#daycare attendant Sun#DCA fandom#oc x canon#Sun x reader#Sun Fnaf#Sun x oc#Sun x y/n#Sundrop x oc#Sundrop x y/n#Sundrop x reader#my art#masc y/n#rhys#me. me willingly making this. me willingly writing that dialog- whOOga needs THERAPY HUH??? Get the bots some therapy!!!#walks so close to the mic my lips are touching it.#hye y.... it's a fun little allegory for being aromantic kinda#just a little bit as a treat <3. can be viewed as Not that way#just feels like you're not worth more than the sum of your parts being aro sometimes. asjfafjaj.#+ also my wife writing this dialog: “Hey I wrote some lore into this. Just let me know if you don't like it!!” Me: AAFSDGSDG??/ JSFS??????#doombop!
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Thinking of Cass and Damian got me thinking of the New 52 and how the dynamic between Batgirl and Robin there is even more proof of the travesty that was Babsgirl. She's been the longest running Batgirl to Damian's Robin, has witnessed most of the events of his life as Robin and yet their dynamic is just... A nothing burger. She's there in batfamily group reactions in the New 52 as the most heinous use of the Smurfette Principle I've seen in a long while. Tim isn't Tim, Dick isn't fully treated as Bruce's son, Jason exists mostly to say funny one liners, and yet despite the shallow characterisation there are still moments and events you can point to and say look. This happened. They interacted with Damian and it meant something. With Babsgirl? Nothing. How can there be anything when they're shoving a grown woman into a role she's outgrown for years now and forcing her to be the Batgirl of a preteen Robin? Her original Robin gets his own mantle, gets to be an adult with a legacy. She's shoved back into this role she doesn't fit in and because they know damn well she doesn't fit in it and they're just doing it for misogyny, they don't even try to make Batgirl and Robin a thing. Any interaction they had during the new 52 was so unremarkable and flavourless, devoid of character and heart, that I've never seen a single panel of the two of them in my 16 years as a DC fan.
Steph had a 24 issue batgirl run where she interacted with Damian a few times. Cass got even less than that with a six issue miniseries to bond with him. And yet the characterisation, writing and dynamic created in those stories was interesting, entertaining and impactful enough to last in the fandom for YEARS when Cass and Steph got erased. When you think of Damian's big sister you think of Steph, Cass, Maya etc long before you think of Babsgirl.
It's just infuriating to me. All those years of potential Batgirl and Robin stories wasted on a duo with as much cultural impact on the Batgirl and Robin team up as the James Cameron Avatar movies had on the word Avatar. All so they could erase the women of the batfam and reduce the sole one remaining down to The Girl Bat. Yeah whatever she was there in Damian's life when Steph and Cass weren't why am I supposed to care when her standing there gave me nothing to work with emotionally compared to a single conversation Steph or Cass had with Damian back in 2011. Compared with them or even Oracle Babs, I care about Babsgirl and Damian's dynamic and bond as much as DC and it's writers do. Which is to say, not at all.
#dc#batfam#Sorry for the rant sometimes think about the new 52 and how it treated female characters and I get furious#Babs will always be Dick and Jason's Batgirl. Steph will always be Damians.#If you want to argue its Babs give me panels of them talking as compelling as Steph and Dami from batgirl 2009#Hell give me one as compelling as Oracle Babs and Batman Dick mentoring the new batgirl and robin#Anti Babsgirl#Dc rambles#Genuinely if someone ever said Babsgirl mattered more as Damains batgirl than Steph I wouldn't know how to take that other than Steph hate#And refusal to acknowledge that batgirl 2009 was good and impactful enough to remain a part of how fandom saw these characters#For years. Something the new 52 failed to achieve with Babsgirl and Damian. She had no development during his four years of growth#He barely even acknowledges her she's just a random family friend who's always there. And you're telling me that she's his batgirl not Step#Yeah OK sure. If you like the worst most boring and poorly written parts of canon and ignore the actual good stuff#I guess that can be true
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Sherlock and House: Oddest shows of affection.
Sherlock: I’ve programmed an algorithm that can diagnose medical conditions within 0.05% accuracy. Much better than your pathetic clinic work. I think John will appreciate it.
House: Cute. I just pretended to go into cardiac arrest so Wilson would rush in and declare me his one true love. Try faking death next time, it’s a real conversation starter.
Sherlock: How is that even remotely intellectual? John prefers logic, not melodrama.
House: Wilson likes grand gestures. I know my audience.
John (to Wilson): Are they seriously doing this again?
Wilson: I’m pretty sure I’m dating an emotionally stunted teenager. What’s your excuse?
#house x wilson#house md#greg house#james wilson#house is why wilson cant have nice things#canon hilson#domestic hilson#hilson au#AU#alternate universe#bbc sherlock#sherlock fandom#sherlock holmes#johnlock#sherlock x john#john and wilson are tired#john watson#dr john watson#love language or just insanity??#house and his grand gestures#sherlock and house treating affection like its a competitve sport#james and wilson are just existing#destined to bicker#they love eachother#toxic relationship kings#how are these two geniuses?#this is how they say i love you ig#house: what if i just pretend to die?#house knows his audience (literally just one person)
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Ace community can we please for the love of god stop calling sex-favorable or sex-neutral aces “exceptions.”
I’ve seen one too many angry shipping discourse posts where yall are complaining about your ace blorbo being headcanoned to have sex by some people because of “exceptions.”
We are not exceptions. We are just as much a part of the ace community as you are. We are allowed to talk about our experiences and we are allowed to also project our experiences onto fictional characters as much as you are, and the fact you assume it’s just allo people talking about these “exceptions” is a part of the problem.
#aspec#asexual#sex favorable asexual#sex neutral asexual#this isn’t really just about fandom bullshit. some of you treat us like this outside of those spaces too#‘allos erase a canonically aspec character’s sexuality’#and ‘the ace community is often really unfriendly towards those of us who don’t despise sex’#are two statements that can and should coexist#and it’s not that I want everything to be about me. or that your experience isn’t valid#but I would like not to see hostility towards those who are sex-favorable
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idk why it's taken me this long to think about it like this but the real reason i don't like 70s/80s era DM in the show timeline is because it's cheating. and i don't mean infidelity, i mean it's a cheap way to cut around all the issues armand and daniel have with each other in the modern day. like it's a massively difficult thing to write these characters getting from point A (armand's life being ruined by daniel and daniel hating armand/being highly distrustful of him) to point B (a sincere romantic relationship) but if you invent a Secret Romantic History That Daniel Forgot But Will Remember then it's a piece of cake for them to forgive each other. but no! i say no! i want the writers to put the work in!!!!
#armandiel#armand iwtv#daniel molloy#armand#the vampire armand#iwtv#interview with the vampire#for the record. i have now written four whole fics that are just sitting in my drafts#of 70s/80s era DM. like i Get It. i Get the appeal. im not trying to ruin anyones fun#but its one thing to explore it in fanworks and its another thing to treat it as canon#which does??? seem to be the pretty standard way of thinking in this fandom?????#except my beloved mutuals. i see u#thunder rambles#edit: HELP i know ive made this point 70 million times before. for some reason it just didnt click that#'a second amnesia plotline would be bad' -> 'because it's cheap writing'. let me live
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actually I will say something. tired of being in fandom spaces and seeing the women get demonized while the men with the same/similar character traits either get sanded down and excused OR get called "babygirl" and such.
#bee's buzzing#yes this is about a specific fandom No i will not say which one.#but i will say. sometimes i get sick of it#especially when paired with '(canon male character who is an awful person) is a woman to me. i will not consider Any implications this has'#ESPECIALLY especially when i have been told. as a lesbian. that i should find that fictional man hot now-#- because someone thought up a hc where he's a woman without doing anyrhinh else or again.#exploring the nuance of making him either transfem or a cis woman.#clarification that i DO like transfem readings and such. i love them even.#i have just NEVER seen the hc im vagueposting about treated with. any of the nuance it would need to make sense#and because the fandom. again. demonizes a woman with the same traits#it just makes me raise an eyebrow is all
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people will complain with their whole entire chest about Ivy "just being Harley's girlfriend now" and you look up Ivy on their account and the only time they've spoken about her is to bitch about her dating a woman Harley under the guise of "missing the old ivy"
no y'all don't, shut up, we can see you. you've never given a shit about ivy. you don't care about her or how she's "not an eco-terrorist anymore" cause if you did care, you'd not be complaining rn 💀 but sorryyy that her essentially cannibalizing Woodrue in #6 isn't "fucked up in the head" or "villainous" enough for you, but lbr if her actions throughout the first 8 chapters of her 2022 comic aren't Bad enough, then I hate to break it to you but I think you actually just have a problem with gay people and Ivy openly being in love with a woman:)
and that's a skill issue. a you problem. get therapy, loser.
#some 61k likes on a tweet thats just canonically RIGHT NOW wrong i cant stand this fandom and it's unfortunate saturation with locals#i hate to say it but i think we gotta start gatekeeping we cant keep letting them get away with this#you can have ivy and harley back when you learn media literacy and how to treat them (and women and lgbt characters in gen) correctly.#until then its a 100$ fine every time i see a dumbass take like this#and i shall be collecting ill be in your room at 3am for my check#poison ivy#pamela isley#harley quinn#harleen quinzel#harlivy#dc comics
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Screw the ghost shit, this is the biggest mystery in HGSN. If Chapter 22 doesn’t open with a full telling of Yoshiki’s tragic backstory: the birthday party where he received 11 copies of the same book from 11 different people, then idk if I can continue reading…
#For clarity I am joking#But we do know he has relatives that live close enough nearby to give him a watermelon and have it not be bad by the time it gets there#I’m assuming they’re on his dad’s side since… mom from tokyo#And then I’m also guessing that’s where Yoshiki’s dad stays so it’d explain why Yoshiki never goes and sees them or thinks about them#Every one of my posts is some rambling bullshit and then the real post is in the tags… should I separate some of these into actual posts?#Nah that seems like effort#Also that relatives thing is only in the official translation. Not the one you’ll find online#So idk how we as a fandom have decided to treat the canonness of those translations#the summer hikaru died#hikaru ga shinda natsu#hgsn#My hgsn shit
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As shitty as the breakup was (and it definitely was) I think it’s also true that fanon bucktommy was always better than canon, and a lot of us feel betrayed by canon not matching our fanon. Canon bt, much like the rest of canon 911, was poorly written disorganized story beats. The scene at the end of 7x04 was fantastic which is what most people remember, but like… the scene in the firehouse earlier with the basketball that was literally just an Amazon prime ad?? The fuck was that. Tommy just leaving buck at harbor station when he takes off with Eddie? The way that Tommy just called an Uber for himself after their first date without saying a word about it until Buck asked if it was their ride ??? Who does that?? The relationship was wildly underdeveloped onscreen (they’re suddenly boyfriends? Officially? I guess??) and a lot of us just filled in the blanks as we are expected to do, but that doesn’t change that actual canon was. Not good. The end of their relationship was never going to be well written or even well handled.
This is not at all me excusing the mess that was this last episode but let’s not all pretend like this show was ever well written lmao. It’s trash. It’s literally trash tv. It’s MY trash, and your trash, but it’s at best a prime time soap opera where four (4) firefighters save Los Angeles and/or possibly all of North America from disaster once a season. The writers will make the characters do anything if they think it’s interesting. There are no through lines. There are no meaningful and complex multi-season character arcs. These characters cheat on their partners, hurt their friends, make mistakes constantly (except chimney who has done nothing wrong in his life ever) and go through more trauma in a single season of television than a team of psychiatrists is equipped to handle in a lifetime.
Just keep writing those bucktommy fics, because they’re always going to be better than canon. You’re always going to love the characters more. You’re always going to be more invested in the relationship.
#911 abc#bucktommy#I don’t even know where this came from#it’s not a scolding#it’s just me seeing a fandom I’m a part of fall the fuck apart#just because canon is as bad as canon has always been#I’m sad too but like#some of y’all had way too much faith#in the same people who made buck cheat on his girlfriend#get dumped in the most hurtful ways possible including a year long ghosting#die like ? 3? different times??#like why did we think they would treat this one thing right#evan buckley#tommy kinard#obligatory fuck Ryan Murphy#not even his fault anymore#but it’s still his fault
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