#fandom purity culture tw

[bump-inthe-night]

Fandom discourse itself is stupid because arguing over fictional characters, ships, and shipping labels is a waste of time. However, fandom discourse is causing very real and severe harm to people.

Adults and children are developing Moral Scrupulosity OCD, becoming extremely paranoid and anxious over whether they're "good" and constantly questioning their morality. In fandoms, people believe the fictional characters and ships they like reflect who they are and their moral alignment. They think enjoying something problematic means you’re an "evil" person. This has caused fans of problematic fiction to be labeled as "criminals" and harassed.

People are terrified of liking anything in fiction out of fear that it makes them a “horrible” person and being labeled as such by others. Persistent bullying has driven people to be doxxed and commit suicide. This moral superiority contest has ruined people’s lives because many are obsessed with proving their “goodness.”

Fiction is meant to be a fun way to explore themes and topics, not a test of morality. You’re never going to please everyone because there’s always going to be some who believe you’re “immoral” for what you like. Enjoy whatever characters and ships you want because it doesn’t dictate what kind of person you are.

[mywitchcultblr]

Can people stop being a piece of shit for once? You can dislike the game, but doing this to an innocent person is just disgusting

You don't want to see it? Block the tag and don't buy the game. People are only willing to hurt weaker and smaller creator, but they're never doing this to bigger and more established creators

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Today, this fandom anti is in favour of actually raping people. Way to let everyone know you're a future rapist if someone dares to write or draw anything depicting things you don't approve of. Please be wary of this one people, they're incredibly dangerous.

[forget-me-not-automaton]

Saw a TikTok the other day that was like “I think it’s ok to write fanfiction just as long as you aren’t a gooner! 😇” and just-

Alright you Hayes Code loving son of a bitch! Me personally I will continue to goon as much as I can because who the fuck else is gonna pump out all of the furry and/or cartoon and/or monster PWP? Tis’ my duty in this existence.

[montyluvsjasper]

So, you're saying Daenerys is a "white feminist" but social justice and virtue signaling in art is bad in the same sentence? 😂😂😂 Poor little retarded cry baby. So desperate that can't even stay consistent.

You just called an Autistic person the r SLUR in defense of a fictional character who's in story "race" is based on the aryan race... remember what those aryan's started calling themselves? Remember what they did to autistic people? But we'll let that slide this time dear.

I think show!Dany is written and adapted by hbo and D&D in a bland 2010s white feminist way that GRRM did not intend but was popular in media at the time to make money. That's my biased opinion on the way a fictional character was written in a book adaptation. I do not think Dany is a white feminist because Dany is not real.

Social justice has its place in art, but fandom is not Social Justice activism and all art does not need to be radical. No one should be judged for making art that doesn't hurt anyone. No one is required to make their art soft and a safe place.

Liking Dany, Sansa, Alicent, Cersei, Rhaenyra, Rhaenys etc. does not make you a better feminist and it doesn't "raise awareness" or make you cooler or more liberal. Art is very often fiction there for is not real and is rather inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. You're permitted to enjoy it as you personally see fit.

No one who likes Aegon, Aemond, Joffery (please remember that his actor got so much hate for playing that character he had to find a new CAREER PATH not job a CAREER PATH) or Ramsay is automatically a morally corrupt human being and this whole it's "sus" thing shows a lack of media literacy, critical thinking and large amounts of purity culture shifted into fandom, social justice or some other outlet instead properly unpacking.

This shit is all fake and for fun literally none of it matters. None of it has ever mattered. Not the shit that "happened" between Dean and Cas or Clarke and Lexa. No fandom shit is REAL. Using it to assign moral value to anything ruins the experience. This is a hobby, it's not that serious. Let people have fun and do what they want. Using FICTION to signify MORALITY is bullshit.

Virtue signaling isn't a simple issue with things that matter, why the fuck would we bring it into FICTION or a HOBBY. Right now, this fandom is doing that with actors and jeopardizing their careers not to mention how we treat each other or how we all go around antagonizing each other over a fictional succession crisis.

But I expect someone who still uses slurs in 2024 is probably too dense and self absorbed to realize any of that on their own. Have a day sweetie.

[raayllum]

how are you a teacher and shipping a literal child with an 18 year old💀

i'm a tutor with an honours specialization in how fiction influences and/or is influenced by reality. i also work with students across all grade levels, even into university ages/adulthood. you're bringing up talking points from plato's republic that aristotle knew was stupid 3000+ years ago. i've written papers & studied this exact same line of discourse across the western canon of like, 800 years? but have fun playing into far right bullshit and book banning that just repeats over and over again, the literal conservative puritans were having these moral panics too <;3 totally not protestant conservatism with a gay hat

& that's cause i'm not shipping a literal child with an 18 year old (which btw 18 yr olds are not magically emotionally mature fully grown adults either even if they legally are adults, i say as someone who was a teenager just four years ago). i'm shipping two characters with an age gap when they're both fully grown adults in their 20s. if you think characters are for some reason Frozen at a certain age and can never be aged up when they're from an IP property you don't own, and that authors can only explore characters at different life stages when they're characters the author owns, you inherently don't understand the transformative part of fandom / transformative fiction

like hi, was a literal minor like 4 years ago who was harassed throughout my teen years by people just like you because i shipped two (2) things with a 4 year age gap, but no i'm sure calling a 16 yr old a pedophile in the name of "protecting children" (when no one online is entitled to anyone's personal private information, nvm their history with csa) was totally worth it

if you've ever enjoyed or read literally anything adjacent to greek myth or the fucking bible, you've enjoyed texts with a whole lot of fucked up shit in it, of which age gaps are the least of their 'problems'. come back to me when you've read "wuthering heights" or some actual fucked up shit

and update bc anon came back and Really thought they were doing something: wuthering heights doesn't have an age gap at all. the two leads are the same age and are fucked up for so many other reasons. plato's republic is a philosophical musing manual on where art fits into society and how it should manifest / what its purpose is. but thank you for failing critical thinking so hard you couldn't even google something for 2 seconds to make sure your argument was sound At All

[livebloggingmydescentintomadness]

You’re probably not going to see this, but as a teen that started following you for ace/aro posts, your takes on purity culture and antis have been really important to me. To be honest I haven’t cared about proship/anti discourse in years and find the terms to be reductive and oversimplifying but I’m so sick of seeing call outs in my social circles that sum up to “this person that is open about the fact they like dark content likes dark content!” Like, I thought you didn’t WANT to interact with them, why are you mad that they’ve made their beliefs clear enough for you to block?

I’d never harass someone over fake people that don’t exist but I guess I have pretty “anti” tastes- pairings between a 16 year old and an 18 year old are enough to squick me out and my current fandom has a very popular incest subculture which is. A lot. But at the same time subjects like grooming and SA/CSA recovery are very fascinating to me, and your posts have helped me shake off the guilt I have about that and fear of being seen as an abuse apologist if I write fics about those topics.

I don’t really know where I’m going with this. Just, thank you, I guess. I hope you have a good day/night/whenever you read this :)

hello, dear, i'm so glad that my blog could be helpful to you <3

i agree with you that the anti/proship terminology does kind of feel like it trivializes really important issues, but please allow me to clarify one thing - being "proship" has nothing to do with WHAT you ship and everything to do with HOW you ship. it's not about taste, it's about philosophy.

i actually have pretty vanilla tastes myself; i typically avoid most dark fic, i'm not really into kink, i don't usually like "dead dove" type content, and most of my ships are not particularly controversial. the only incest ship that doesn't gross me out is thorki, because like, they're millennia-old alien space gods based on north mythology; incest is kinda the least weird thing going on there. i have a few ships that could be called abusive, like erik/christine from the phantom of the opera, but generally speaking, my tastes are tame and i just like a good fic with some tasty angst , a little sappy smut, and a happy ending.

however, i understand that other people ARE into all the stuff i'm not into, and it's none of my business what they enjoy, and, critically, my discomfort with those works does not matter, no more than it dictates what i choose to engage in and what i choose to avoid.

my discomfort with darkfic doesn't mean people who like darkfic are immoral, or that darkfic itself is immoral. it means that i don't read darkfic. i understand that my comfort and discomfort are not the moral code of the universe, and furthermore, that a quest for "moral purity" is not only impossible, but actively harmful. a lesson i learned quite well growing up in the baptist church.

using the title of 'proshipper' doesn't mean that i personally like "problematic" ships or whatever, it means that i find harassing people over their fictional tastes reprehensible. it means that i understand that there's a big, big difference between what you enjoy reading in fiction and what you approve of or endorse in real life, and that part of the purpose of fiction is to give us a safe place to explore dark, fucked up shit where it won't have real-world consequences. fiction is an outlet, not a mirror.

even if i personally find the content deeply disturbing, i understand that it is simply none of my fucking business what other people read and write about, provided that they tag the content properly. that's being proship.

anyway, i'm glad that i could help relieve you of your guilt. take care, dear.

[russenoire]

please TAG YOUR SHIT. for the love of all that is holy, tag your posts so that people can protect themselves.

and tag accurately. you don't need to censor tags on [tumblr]. please don't do this. tagging, say, a suicide mention with cutesy euphemisms like #sewer slide or #unalive or #su*c*de or whatever just makes it harder for others to find or block.

TAG YOUR SHIT.

“You are responsible for the minors in your fandom!!!”

No, I’m fucking not. I’m not your parent. My past-times do not automatically sign me up to act in loco parentis. If you need someone else to monitor your own content consumption online, go get mommy and/or daddy to set up a content blocker on your computer.

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The projectors keep coming out of the woodwork and it never ends. Again, if you are seeing CSEM on television or on social media report it to the police! The FBI and the Police will laugh you out of the office for trying to report fictional objects that don't exist. It's clear some people have zero reading comprehension given that they were responding to my previous post. Antis once again trying to project their sick and twisted interests on to someone pointing out their insanity. They're the masters of gaslighting and manipulation; so much so they need their own category in the olympics. The fact that they think it's acceptable to compare real children to objects is nothing short of horrifying. Imagine going through life thinking children are objects or something that doesn't exist. How dehumanizing, how shameful and inhuman must you be to make a mockery of real human suffering because you need to protect your pixels more so than the well being of actual people. We know for sure, with this kind of response, they would turn a blind eye to the pain and suffering of children.

[forget-me-not-automaton]

It’s so hard out here for the “corn” artists right now,,,, Like not only is every website in existence kicking you out, but also everyone is acting like what you choose to draw is morally bad somehow. (I even had to say the fucking vegetable because Tumblr wouldn’t show this to anyone otherwise)

[zombieplaguedoc]

TW: Discussion Of Possible Religious Trauma

Being indoctrinated with toxic views and thinking growing up in a cult counts as religious trauma, right? Or does that not count?

Antis pls dni, this is not aimed at you

[jrwiyuri]

I am not attracted to the streamers I enjoy watching I am not attracted to the streamers I enjoy watching I am not attracted to the streamers I enjoy watching I am not attracted to the streamers I enjoy watching I am not attracted to the streamers I enjoy watching I am not attracted to the streamers I enjoy watching I am not attracted to the streamers I enjoy watching I am not attracted to the streamers I enjoy watching I am not attracted to the streamers I enjoy watching I am not attracted to the streamers I enjoy watching I-

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Highlighting the deranged. We have someone pointing out a very obvious point. Creepy stalkers tend to push their obsession with an individual to either murder, rape or both. It's a fact and yet someone takes offense, all of this over character tropes in stories. Thread's wild. ________________________________ This deranged individual wastes no time calling others Pedophiles. Simply because someone decided to utilize a gif from MHA. It's sick and disgusting equating fictional characters (objects) to real children suffering through real trauma. The projection continues and gets worse.

________________________________ To clarify, Proshipping is essentially not harrassing others over fiction. That's it, however people who are actually problematic like to project their pedophilic ideals on to entirely innocent people. I can prove this down the line that Gigi is in fact projecting.

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This individual loses their mind because their own logic was thrown back at them. If you're watching Hannibal then you condone abuse, murder, cannibalism and mutilation of corpses. Hypocrite complaining about boundaries when they attacked someone with a DNI first.

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Then we proceed to the interesting part. This individual wants there to be more victims of CSEM. Actively requesting that people go and watch real children be victimized by monsters. Allegedly, they must be hiding criminal activity involving children.

[eleventeenthealbum]

seejanerot -> eleventeenthealbum

Tumblr got my ass for "harassment" (screen capped someone being racist). I'm Jewish. Eleventeen is an album by Daisy Chainsaw. I like it.

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READ THIS 👇

MAPS and "pro-para" types unwelcome. Incest lovers owe survivors everything they have. Fiction cannot cause abuse, but it can facilitate, normalize, romanticize, and eroticize it.

It happened to me. Please dni if you post sa based kinks I am very hyper vigilant and paranoid.

♥️ABOUT AND DNI BELOW♥️

DNI Radqueers/Terfs/swerfs/zionists we will not like each other. die.

"Purity culture" is very real and it's not the critique or discussion of sex or kink or fandom. It's the concept that the amount sex you have or who you do/don't have it with has an inherent implication on your personhood.

LESS SERIOUS:

I like bad horror stories, FMV, Furryism, Animal Crossing, comedy, comics (mostly transformers and DC but I also love vintage comics, Love and Rockets, things by Lynda Barry, and Archie Comics), and Twin Peaks. Formerly ran the blog @Jewishharleyquinn before they got me.

I'm a big big hater. I hate people who pay social media sites and I hate AO3. "Bi lesbian" is an oxymoron. Weebs are on thin ice.

I'm interested in court cases and nature + natural history

I want to be a fairy. I want to be a mermaid. I want to be very small.

You can ask me to tag things🩷 I use (trigger) cw except for "flashing"

Tw: csa + grooming

You might see me speak a lot on abuse fetishism online + in fandom. I was groomed online by a woman through toxic fandom, "loli" and other CSEM anime/manga, and a very twisted version of feminism and sex positivity.

It went on from ages 13-17, meeting online when I was just 12. She involved me and her foster sister. I have had a few other sexually traumatic experiences (some happening in early childhood that she connected with me on), but that was by far the longest and most twisted.

I started talking about this more when I realized others had been hurt in very similar ways.

I'm a grooming, incestous abuse, and sa survivor, these things also upset me greatly. If I interact first I apologize, please just block me. I say this because of my own negative reactions.

[beyondthisdarkhouse]

Ancient Greece and Rome have been held up as inspiration for Western society, politics, arts, and morality, so people often assume they were great places where everything was super awesome.

But if you'll observe the result of centuries of idealizing those societies, you might guess that they were in fact kind of totally fucked up.

(Though honestly, cousin incest is by FAR one of the mildest ancient infractions of US legal codes.)

OH MY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

CALLOUT POST FOR FUCKING EURIPIDES

[thisweekinfandomhistory]

See ya later, pala-dudes! This week, V and Emily hit a double-header in the Voltron: Legendary Defender fandom (thanks to two requesters and V's VLD primer pal, Fran!). First, V attempts to explain what the show is about and why it launched on Netflix with a built-in fandom. And then... oh, boy. You know how our ending stinger is "well-behaved fandoms rarely make history"? Well, this fandom is VERY POORLY BEHAVED and therefore, have made history. That's for sure... Not really a TW, but just be aware that this episode is heavy on discussions of purity culture, particularly with regard to shipping age gaps.

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