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After you realize what happened to the women of Troy it will make your heart ache but
do you think Hector was more devastated by meeting his son in the Underworld or by not meeting his wife here?
#the baby didn't make it to the burial so he will most likely lie for 100 years before Cheron takes his soul but that's a detail#epic#epic the musical#epic hector#hector of troy#andromache#andromache of troy#astyanax#scamandrius#this is his real name btw#my thoughts#firinnie#trojan war#trojan women#epic the troy saga#troy saga
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a quick psa to anyone recently getting into greek mythology and is a victim of tumblr and/or tiktok misconceptions:
-there is no shame in being introduced to mytholgy from something like percy jackson, epic the musical or anything like that, but keep in mind that actual myths are going to be VERY different from modern retellings
-the myth of medusa you probably know (her being a victim of poseidon and being cursed by athena) isn't 100% accurate to GREEK mythology (look up ovid)
-there is no version of persephone's abduction in which persephone willingly stays with hades, that's a tumblr invention (look up homeric hymn to demeter)
-as much as i would like it, no, cerberus' name does not mean "spot" (probably a misunderstanding from this wikipedia article)
-zeus isn't the only god who does terrible things to women, your fav male god probably has done the same
-on that note, your fav greek hero has probably done some heinous shit as well
-gods are more complicated than simply being "god of [insert thing]", many titles overlap between gods and some may even change depending on where they were worshipped
-also, apollo and artemis being the gods of the sun and the moon isn't 100% accurate, their main aspects as deities originally were music and the hunt
-titans and gods aren't two wholly different concepts, titan is just the word used to decribe the generation of gods before the olympians
-hector isn't the villain some people make him out to be
-hephaestus WAS married to aphrodite. they divorced. yes, divorce was a thing in ancient greece. hephaestus' wife is aglaia
-ancient greek society didn't have the same concepts of sexuality that we have now, it's incorrect to describe virgin goddesses like artemis and athena as lesbians, BUT it's also not wholly accurate to describe them as aromantic/asexual, it's more complex than that
-you can never fully understand certain myths if you don't understand the societal context in which they were told
-myths have lots and lots of retellings, there isn't one singular "canon", but we can try to distinguish between older and newer versions and bewteen greek and roman versions
-most of what you know about sparta is probably incorrect
-reading/waching retellings is not a substitute to reading the original myths, read the iliad! read the odyssey! i know they may seem intimidating, but they're much more entertaining than you may think
greek mythology is so complex and interesting, don't go into it with preconcieved notions! try to be open to learn!
#tagamemnon#the iliad#the odyssey#homeric epics#homer#greek mythology#greek myth retellings#greek gods#ancient greece#zeus#poseidon#athena#medusa#trojan war#epic the musical#percy jackson#pjo#the song of achilles#circe#lore olympus#hector of troy#odysseus#odysseus of ithaca#read the odyssey i beg you
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I'M NOT OKAY
#mentally unwell#the iliad#tagamemnon#hector of troy#odysseus#the epic cycle#epic: the musical#epic the musical
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The wrath of Achilles...
#Achilles#the iliad#patrochilles#hector#homer iliad#achilles x patroclus#greek epic#ancient greek#greek mythology#tagamemnon
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Hector of troy- because most art I see of him is in armour or scary and that needed fixed
#tenoart#my art#the illiad#illiad fanart#hector of troy#hector#i made this with epic the musical and tsoa in mind so those tags are getting thrown in#hector fanart#Tsoa#the song of achilles#tsoa hector#epic fandom#epic fanart#epic the musical fanart#epic the musical#epic the musical infant#epicthemusical#epic the musical troy saga#troy saga#epic#greek mythology fanart#greek myth art#trojan war#song of achilles#i posted this and someone instantly joked about throwing the baby#monsters man.
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After God Games
Helios: The sirens?
Apollo: I was taken by surprise, okay? Dad just popped me into the arena and went "yo fight your sister about Odyseus or something".
Helios: And you didn't consider my cows as a reason?
Apollo: I panicked!? And the sirens do write bangers.
Helios: After I considered you as my sucessor!
Apollo: Look, honey, Hector was my champion and I didn't even considered Troy a reason. Is nothing personal.
#epic the musical#epic the wisdom saga#god games#apollo#apollo epic the musical#i swear i was so certain apollo's reason would be that ody killed hector son#no matter it was the gods will#cause hector was apollo's guy#helios#obligatory athena is fine guys#after that arc
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i present to you this
#the iliad#odysseus#agamemnon#achilles#hector#zeus#poseidon#diomedes#homeric epics#greek myth memes#greek mythology#tagamemnon#classics tag
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Odysseus of Troy AU
Inspired by the Warrior!Penelope AU, @maggie44paint's Malewife Menelaus AU & @theblindgoddess + DaughterOfDungeonBat's Penelope of Troy AU.
So instead of Helen, Paris chooses Odysseus, thinking he's the safer option because he's just the king of small, barren Ithaca & super smart. Baby Telemachus is also spirited away as extra leverage.
Paris thinks he's being cunning, hoping this choice can somewhat ease Athena's wrath as well.
At first, Athena is furious....but then she gives the go-ahead for 3 reasons.
Odysseus will give Paris hell.
Hera will give Paris hell.
This one is important: Penelope will give Paris hell.
Paris tells himself he's doing Penelope a favour! Now she can find another, more powerful husband & have another kid with him. Plus, she's a woman with a tiny kingdom, it's not like she'll come knocking on Troy's walls.
Newsflash: a furious Penelope comes pounding on Troy's walls with a vengeance.
(Bonus if she isn't even being backed by Ares here. Oh no, all that unstoppable rage is 100% pure Penelope.)
In Olympus, Hera & Athena are cackling and high-fiving over a bucket of popcorn. In Troy, Ody is going full Mission Impossible, being a monster (rawr rawr rawr) to Paris, mapping out servant passages, calculating how much cloth it'll take to make a long enough rope & hoarding tiny paper scraps and crumbs for bird feeding.
He goes all: Yes, I need more clothes. It's not my fault my clothes keep ripping. *wink wink*. Oh, I'm not supposed to be here? Silly me, I'm hopeless without Athena's wisdom now! Look at the cute birdie, little wolf! *slips a message onto them while his son's buried under feathers*
Athena is very proud of her master liar.
Bonus:
Hector & Ody ironically become good friends because they're both dads and loving husbands. Hector tells himself he will NOT get attached to the man who's singlehandedly screwed him, his family & Troy over......only to pat the guy's back as he sobs for the nth time over missing his wife. It's hard not to empathize with him & feel a little sorry for the kid who doesn't even remember his mom.
And maybe when Hector senses that the end is coming, he & Andromache ask Ody to take Astyanax with him. He won't have a future in Troy, but it's better than no future, period.
Thus, Penelope returns to Ithaca with her family one member bigger than before.
#epic the musical#warrior!penelope#odysseus of troy au#role swap au#paris of troy#penelope#odysseus#telemachus#hector of troy#andromache#astyanax lives au#paris: time to pull a pro gamer move#paris: why do I hear boss music?#penelope: violence is a question & my answer is yes#and yes those birds are hera's and/or athena's#idk if hector can be saved but years later ody helps astyanax track down andromache#penny & tele are ok with this bcz they understand more than anyone not being able to know your mother#also hector's sympathy for ody & tele's situation foreshadowing what will happen to his wife & son......#problematic malewife ody LET'S GOOOOO
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JORGE IS THINKING ABOUT MAKING AN ILIAD MUSICAL IN THE FUTURE HELLOOOO??????
I need my Hector & Apollo songs please please please Jay I'm begging you please
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aaaaaaaaaaaa the iliad/odyssey as cat memes aaaaaaaaaaaaa
#epic the musical#epic: the musical#greek mythology#odysseus#the odyssey#the iliad#agamemnon#menelaus#paris of troy#hector of troy#Achilles#patroclus#tsoa achilles#tsoa patroclus#tsoa#the song of achilles#song of achilles#diomedes#greek mythology memes#greek memes#memes#mythology memes#odyssey#Iliad#homer’s iliad#homer's odyssey#Cat memes#Funny cats#Cats
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“Andromache, my love, take your time.”
waaiting, andromache when you come home i’ll be waaiting, 🥲
#epic the musical#the iliad#troy story#troy#the trojan war#tagamemnon#hector of troy#hector#prince hector#astyanax#prince astyanax#the horse and the infant#andromache#andromache of troy#hector x andromache#hamilton musical#hector they could never make me hate you.
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So. I have the stupidest theory.
In "Not Sorry for Loving You" Calypso says that during her time on the island she had no other friends than "the sky and sun".
So I really like to take one word out of context and make something with it SO what if she meant Apollo here? Stay with me because it will make sense why he might be pissed at Odysseus, ok? You see, Hector was very much Apollo's favorite so by Epic standards I think we can say he was his patron god. Plus we know he openly participated in the war and fought on the side of Troy, and he was also the god of prophecy, I don't believe he didn't know how it all ended. Now imagine that Apollo had to watch as his favorite man died and then the only thing left after him - his son, was thrown by Athena's student from the city walls. We know Athena, she didn't miss the opportunity to proudly remind her brother of this, for the gods it was just a game as long as "their man" wasn't involved.
But yes, I think Apollo may have a real dislike for Odysseus and if he had the chance, he convinced Calypso that it was the fulfillment of her dreams for bravely enduring her exile. Apollo knew that Odysseus would manage to get off that island but he wanted him to feel at least a little bit of the pain that Hector's family, his subjects and his beloved wife felt. What golden god himself felt. In addition, Calypso casually tells Odysseus that "someone" came for him. Like??? Shouldn't a god visiting the island because of a mortal be more surprising to her? She says it as if there was nothing unusual about it. Maybe because one had already visited her once, 7 years ago?
#epic#epic the musical#epic the wisdom saga#epic calypso#calypso#herctor#hector of troy#epic hector#odysseus#epic odysseus#athena#epic athena#apollo#epic apollo#troy#epic the vengeance saga#my thoughts#firinnie
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"Astynax (the infant) was quiet and didn't cry when Odysseus was holding him and was even smiling and reaching out for him, because Odysseus was wearing his helmet, so he must have thought it was his father, Hector, picking him up."
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#epic#epic the musical#epic: the musical#the horse and the infant#epic the troy saga#the troy saga#troy saga#epic: the troy saga#epic astyanax#astynax#hector#prince hector#epic odysseus#odysseus#odysseus of ithaca#jorge rivera herrans#the odyssey#odyssey#greek mythology
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changed the words a little—mostly because I just wanted to write Aristos Achaion somewhere
#achilles#iliad fanart#the iliad#hades achilles#tsoa achilles#tsoa#i didn’t wanna tag tsoa because i have beef with the fandom but i gyatt to get that tumblr fandom clout so#digital art#achilles fanart#patrochilles#patroklos#hektor#hector of troy#homeric epics#epic cycle#tagamemnon#artists on tumblr
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#I'm back on my bullshit :3
#greek mythology#the iliad#homer#odysseus#the odyssey#neoptolemus#sarpedon#tsoa thetis#helen of troy#hector of troy#astyanax#priam#menelaus#patroclus#briseis#achilles#greek mythology memes#sappho#trojan war#the epic cycle#epic poetry#song of achilles#iliad meme#homer's iliad
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no!! stop running!!!
i need to tell you that he held out his arms to take his baby!!!
but the child squirmed around and began wailing terrified by his father’s helm!!!!
and his father began laughing and his mother laughed as well!!
and from his handsome head he took it and placed it on the ground!!
and he kissed his son and swung him around!!!
and prayed that he would become better than him!!!
stop running this is important!!!!
#its one of those days#when im thinking about hector and his helm#tagamemnon#the illiad#hector of troy#hektor of troy#astyanax#epic cycle#trojan war
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